That's a fascinating read, though I have some problems to understand you correctly. I'm especially interested in the fast mini jelqs you've mentioned as pre-sex technique:
1. how are they done precisely? in an erect state, semi-erect or flaccid?
2. do you use only one hand? Or how did you otherwise manage to get 3 reps in within just one second?
3. if "super fast mini jelqs" bring that much temporary girth, why didn't he advise you to put them into your girth routine? and if they work, why shouldn't normal jelqs do?
4. did you two guys talk about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] and Clamping?

Would appreciate your answer very much, neutron! this is very exciting. Thx up front.

edit: forgot one: if he says that you have to put your hands not more than 2 inches away from your base (with regards to the stretches), does he mean 2 inches in a stretched state or 2 " away from it at the beginning of the movement, just before you pull on your dick?
 
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Satyr;564883 said:
That's a fascinating read, though I have some problems to understand you correctly. I'm especially interested in the fast mini jelqs you've mentioned as pre-sex technique:
1. how are they done precisely? in an erect state, semi-erect or flaccid?
2. do you use only one hand? Or how did you otherwise manage to get 3 reps in within just one second?
3. if "super fast mini jelqs" bring that much temporary girth, why didn't he advise you to put them into your girth routine? and if they work, why shouldn't normal jelqs do?
4. did you two guys talk about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] and Clamping?

Would appreciate your answer very much, neutron! this is very exciting. Thx up front.

That's the questions.
 
neutronstar;564879 said:
basically he said all urologist knows how people can grow their penis but they are just lazy to share, but when u get an private urologist u can have the right anwser because thats what u pay for..
bullshit!

I don't know about the rest but this is utter crap and it should be obvious. If one profession had cornered the market in big dicks, you know word would have got out.
 
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Shenlong;564893 said:
bullshit!

I don't know about the rest but this is utter crap and it should be obvious. If one profession had cornered the market in big dicks, you know word would have got out.

I don't know if neutron abbreviated some info given by the urologist, but I think, if the doc doesn't tend to unprofessionally exaggerate he has told him that every urologist has sufficient technical knowledge about the anatomic structure and functionality of the penis to potentially get an accurate picture of Penis Enlargement, that is if he would knew about such techniques. That being said it's self-explanatory that most urologists (like most other people) don't have a clue about it.
 
I think some of this MAYBE true but I think everyone can gain. I do my stretches like he said 1.5 to 2 inchs above the base as I find I get better stretches and grip, and also that it can help me because I got a good amount of inner penis. I just think some of this may be true as in how fast someone can gain vs others. This could very well tie in with Bib's theory http://www.bibhanger.com/forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=131.
But no matter what I know wrapping and wearing a cock ring and keeping expanded and stretched out will always help. I also believe everyone can gain from lig,tunica, and inner penis just some people more than others. The question is which is the best method for fastest gains and does some people have to take a different approach to ppe then others. brothers please be free to agree or disagree my comments as we can learn from this post even if the post is completely bull crap. cheers
 
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GirthGains;564901 said:
I think some of this MAYBE true but I think everyone can gain. I do my stretches like he said 1.5 to 2 inchs above the base as I find I get better stretches and grip, and also that it can help me because I got a good amount of inner penis. I just think some of this may be true as in how fast someone can gain vs others. This could very well tie in with Bib's theory http://www.bibhanger.com/forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=131.
But no matter what I know wrapping and wearing a cock ring and keeping expanded and stretched out will always help. I also believe everyone can gain from lig,tunica, and inner penis just some people more than others. The question is which is the best method for fastest gains and does some people have to take a different approach to ppe then others. brothers please be free to agree or disagree my comments as we can learn from this post even if the post is completely bull crap. cheers

I have gained more then 1 inch in length with this method.I have always stretched 1.5 to 2 inches above the base.True.
 
Neutronstar;564906 said:
just for funn because i was so suprissed that he knew so much about Penis Enlargement thats why i called gangsta urologist lol

haha nice, I'm gonna try those fast jelqs tonight. So from bone pressed, only go out about 2 inches from base ( do not touch glans) and repeat very fast? So repetitive short jelqs from bone pressed base?
 
Neutronstar;564900 said:
for all u guys u are interesting on mini jelqing .

is one hand jelqing only one hand and u have to be no more than 50% erect allways does not work (30% erect is the best to do this technique)

pres right to the bone and mini jelq from the bone from 1 to 2 inch after base. for about 2 minutes non stop fasttt your hand will get tired but doit and u will see what fuckin happen and also i would love u to share that here so some assholes to make sure look at the truth before make any comments.


as for stretching is 2 inch after the base thats where your hand should grab your dick i did try i just come from gym right now . i did warm up for 6 minutes with t shirt wraped on my dick i got liitle hard due to heat and i did 2 rounds of stretching just like urologist explained to me , and i just want to say woooww fuckin wooow.


please share your results here.

I want to hear DLD's opinion about this kind of jelging. Can you make some pictures or video of this?
 
Neutronstar;564916 said:
pictures never helps video yes.

is very easy also this jelqing method is not dangerous. just try it your sellf. i dont know if DLD KNOW ABOUT THIS but my guess is that he does know but because we use [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] to expand before sex thats why he never mentioned.

Well i am not lying bro i did it in front of the urologist and fuckin woow just fuckin woow

Don't get me wrong. I believe you. I am sure about the stretching because I have made my biggest length gains this way. I am very excited to try this mini fast stretching. I would be very happy with 0.3" gain. :))).
 
Hi_I_AM_neW19;564907 said:
I have gained more then 1 inch in length with this method.I have always stretched 1.5 to 2 inches above the base.True.

Are you uncut? Can you explain how you are doing it?
 
MOSman20;564921 said:
Are you uncut? Can you explain how you are doing it?
I believe he does it the same way I stretch put some baby powder on your hang and grab 1.5 to 2 inchs from the base in a ok and stretch outwards slowly stretching outwards far as you can and hold for 1 minute. Take your time at first and work on doing this stretch harder. make sure you warm up 5-10 mins before. Oh my penis is also circumsized so those uncut Im sorry but I dont know what to tell ya's maybe grab lower towards the base like expressive stretching. Also I believe he is correct about air pumping being more effective for gains and more dangerous than water pumping. hes a 15 year air pumper looks like the real deal to me http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?13527-Pumping-Results&highlight=home+made+pump
 
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Hey great thread, and thanks for sharing with all of us. With the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], was he saying to pump to your max then point down to the ground? so the valve of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is pointing down to the floor and then pump more? Just a little confused here.
 
Neutronstar, could you please explain again the difference between air pumping and water pumping.

Also, please explain again the pumping method, I am not quite understanding how to pump the water out and leave an air state.

Does this pumping technique work with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words]?
 
Neutronstar,
thanks for the information brother. i really appreciate it. i'm really looking to add additional length. I've probably gained half an inch from pe but definitely want more. I'm currently at 7 inches roughly. I would like to get to 8.5. two quick questions
1. how do you stretch two inches from the base? i'm uncut and have a lot of loose skin in that area. it's difficult to get a grip and a significant strong stretch.
2. could you possibly outline a routine from your uro visit. i know you mentioned it in you original post but i would a little bit lost by your explanation.
thanks again
 
I wonder how you guys manage to stretch from 2 inches above the base without pulling just a lot of skin when you try to stretch your penis. I don't know if that's just a problem uncut guys like me have, but I'd really love to hear some tricks to overcome that problem. Edit: just saw the posts above, but baby powder won't cut it. "girthnmoregirth" just addressed my problem as well.

Another question for you, Neutron: I don't have a pump nor the money right now to buy one. So I'm solely relying on good ol' hand work. I'll give the fast mini jelqs a try later and report back. But given all the info the doc told you, the fast mini jelq must be a tremendous exercise not just for application before sex but also as a regular girth exercise, no?

I'm also very surprised by your resp. his information that having sex, i.e. ejaculation maintains the expansion instead of letting it subside because of the reduced blood flow. That contradicts the whole no-masturbation-after-girth-work-theory. And it's a bit counterintuitive, too. I was always under the impression that getting off after girth work indeed makes my cock hang smaller and thinner. I am very interested in this subject.

Again, thank you for sharing your newly obtained knowledge with us and please keep us posted about your future visits at the urologist's praxis. Always a good thing If someone got the cash to gather such info by communication with a medical pro who actually knows about Penis Enlargement. I think, it's very valuable knowledge. Whoever doesn't feel the need to change anything shouldn't. but I think there are a lot of brothers here on the board who are excited about this.

Edit2: and yes, a video of you performing the fast mini jelqs would be very helpful. Thx
 
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Satyr;564966 said:
I wonder how you guys manage to stretch from 2 inches above the base without pulling just a lot of skin when you try to stretch your penis. I don't know if that's just a problem uncut guys like me have, but I'd really love to hear some tricks to overcome that problem. Edit: just saw the posts above, but baby powder won't cut it. "girthnmoregirth" just addressed my problem as well.

I would like to know it to please.
 
I repeat the questions my friends Styr and Mosman asked. I am uncut as well and would love you to tell me how to avoid the skin only stretching (cause I'm having such a problem when i stretch before the glans as well). As you can see everyone is excited about this thread and I hope there are more like this one! Thanks a lot for giving us this knowledge! :)
 
Satyr;564966 said:
Edit2: and yes, a video of you performing the fast mini jelqs would be very helpful. Thx

A video of everything you learned would be great, pumping, stretching, mini jelqs. The more we learn, the more we gain.
 
mmh, I tried the mini jelqs, but unfortunately failed. Did with a semi-hard-on (40-50% I guess), but either I didn't move fast enough or I jelqed wrong. I don't know. Would really like to see how you do them.
 
Hey neutron

I have a vacutech air pump and its amazing so yes i believe in air,,,,, did he tell you how long the pumping sessions should last for,,, like one set of 20 min or just do 5 min pump then 5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] and repeat?
 
Im also curious when u do the stretches 1.5 to 2 inchs from base for inner penis length gains do you do them fully flaccid or semi-erect. also is air pumping the same enter fully erected, pump to full pressure for 5-7 minutes?
 
Neutronstar;564990 said:
seriosly i dont know why he said air give u more expantion , i was sceptic but when i tried yesterday it was fuckin true expantion beyond imagination.
Neutronstar said:
1 fill chamber with water
2 go in erect and pump to the point u can`t anymore
3 point [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] with head down and start using hand pump, to pump that water out.
4 when u do this u pump to the point where is just little water left in chamber and do go more than that.
5 u can do stretches left right up down
6 he said u will see your penis expand very quick with out blood fluid with turkey neck etc.

Reread this and think about what is actually happening.
To start with, the tube is full of water and your dick. You pump some water out and the internal pressure drops, creating a small vacuum. The difference in pressure between the vacuum and the inside of your dick then pulls your dick out to fill the space. You keep doing this till you can do it no more, then you replace the remaining water with air. With air, things are a little different. The amount of air in a given space is not a constant. Depending on ow much is allowed in, you could be decreasing the pressure dramatically (increasing the pressure difference between the tube and your dick) or you could even be increasing it.
Either way, this is not even close to straight air pumping and, were he any other sort of scientist, your urologist would probably know that.

I am not saying this method won't get results. I am simply informing you of the fact that this is not air pumping and, as such, air pumping will not do the same.

Also note that the above relies on an understanding of what is actually happening when you pump. For those of you who thought that you increased the pressure when you pumped, this may be a little confusing. While the force on your dick is increasing, it is in effect being pulled on b a reduction in pressure caused by the expulsion of the cylinder's other contents.
 
Satyr;564897 said:
I don't know if neutron abbreviated some info given by the urologist, but I think, if the doc doesn't tend to unprofessionally exaggerate he has told him that every urologist has sufficient technical knowledge about the anatomic structure and functionality of the penis to potentially get an accurate picture of Penis Enlargement, that is if he would knew about such techniques. That being said it's self-explanatory that most urologists (like most other people) don't have a clue about it.
Now that I could actually believe. If you know anything about the penis you have the grounds to figure out basic Penis Enlargement from so it only makes sense that, with their greater anatomical knowledge of it, they would have the potential to derive a great amount. It was the "yeah, my entire profession knows how to do all this stuff way better than you could ever hope to, we just don't tell anyone" that seemed such a ridiculous claim. If they all really did know, so would we.
 
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GirthGains;564901 said:
I think some of this MAYBE true but I think everyone can gain. I do my stretches like he said 1.5 to 2 inchs above the base as I find I get better stretches and grip, and also that it can help me because I got a good amount of inner penis.

It has long been known that longer men tend to gain slower from standard manual stretches because the force applied is split across a longer shaft. Further more, I believe DLD himself wrote an in-depth post on how pulling from the base not only helps to pull out the inner penis but will also stretch it more, since the force is split across less length. The problem is, in this case, that you are only stretching the inner penis.
So, why not stretch a small amount of the shaft and get the best of both worlds? That would seem to be the idea here. It's nothing new, just an interesting application of previously known theory.
 
Neutronstar;565021 said:
normaly what i do is i pump first i do my girth work and my penis look pritty much bigger in size and thats where i start also girth gains stays there till next day so. When i got my day off from pumping because i do 2 on 1 offf,, i normaly warm up for 5 to 10 min and my penis react to the hot water and become around 30 40 % harder but the best to do tretches in my opinions is betwen flaccid and 30% harder.
ok that answers my stretching question. now what about air pumping did he say a routine to do with air pumping. And did he say we can do ppe everyday or do we need days off?
 
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