i can not for the life of me get a good grip using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] no matter how far i pull my forskin back t keeps slipping i hate to sale something i won but i feel ill get more use out of a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]
 
DreadMan;749071 said:
i can not for the life of me get a good grip using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] no matter how far i pull my forskin back t keeps slipping i hate to sale something i won but i feel ill get more use out of a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]

How are you wrapping Dread?
 
yes i roll the skin back use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap and the therea band and i still slip

the only thing i was able to do was erect stretches since my forskin is already back in that situation
 
so i was able to figure out the wrap what i did was cut the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] to a shorter lenth

i pull the forskin back and i fold over the theraband and wrap it right below the head then i let a little forskin come up and it gets a little under the forskin i then wrap the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] and clamp down i think the theraband is causing friction between the head and the forskin

i still need to get a program together and i had a cool idea i was thinking of letting you guys make my program like if we all put our heads together what would be the best [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] program anyone who is interested in helping me out let me know
 
K

bundles L/R/U/D while stretching...30-45 seconds each, 3 sets
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words]...initial set at 75% (or just enough pressure to go 'hands-free') for 5-7 minutes (or until FR starts building-up). Withdraw and squeeze/jelg for 3-5 minutes, then back in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] for another 5-7 at 100% pressure. Repeat, then last [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] set at 100%+ while kegeling.

(you can mix-it-up during the 2nd set with expressive pulls/stretches in every direction, and you can also trap The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] between your thighs and tilt your torso back for a fantastic stretch mimicking BTC's)
 
Should I also do non bundles ? I believe I once seen that bundles are better for girth but not length since you done get as good a lig pull and mostly for the tunica don't find that to be the case ?
 
I like bundles for 90% of my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] work (since I ascribe to Mike's 'a balloon than a rope' article), but I do BTC's un-bundled
 
DreadMan;749252 said:
so i was able to figure out the wrap what i did was cut the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] to a shorter lenth

i pull the forskin back and i fold over the theraband and wrap it right below the head then i let a little forskin come up and it gets a little under the forskin i then wrap the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] and clamp down i think the theraband is causing friction between the head and the forskin

i still need to get a program together and i had a cool idea i was thinking of letting you guys make my program like if we all put our heads together what would be the best [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] program anyone who is interested in helping me out let me know

Glad to see you got it figured out Dread. I still have trouble from time to time with my wrap but I will keep working on it until I have it perfected. The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] stretches BSA talked about, between the thighs and lean back, I have been doing those as well and they are intense. I usually do those during my 2nd or 3rd set in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words]
 
Lookn4girth;749277 said:
The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] stretches BSA talked about, between the thighs and lean back, I have been doing those as well and they are intense.

plus you can rinse the shampoo from your hair at the same time, lol
 
Big Schwanz Acht;749279 said:
plus you can rinse the shampoo from your hair at the same time, lol

just make sure the pump is attached really well. If it comes loose your rearward lean may cause you to hit your head on the shower wall, that would be awkward explaining to the er doc, lol
 
...lol

has anyone 'self-analyzed' the actual mechanics of our individual sessions and asked: 'if I had a heart-attack and died at this very moment...' macabre, I know, but thought it's funny each time it pops in my head
 
Big Schwanz Acht;749283 said:
...lol

has anyone 'self-analyzed' the actual mechanics of our individual sessions and asked: 'if I had a heart-attack and died at this very moment...' macabre, I know, but thought it's funny each time it pops in my head

I would like to think that my wife would gather all of my tools and put them away before the crowd arrived
 
Big Schwanz Acht;749271 said:
I like bundles for 90% of my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] work (since I ascribe to Mike's 'a balloon than a rope' article), but I do BTC's un-bundled

I also feel the balloon idea is correct however I feel mainly for the tunica the ligs aren't balloons

- - - Updated - - -

It still takes me a few trys to get it on good but atleast I know it's possible at this point
 
Big Schwanz Acht;749262 said:
K

bundles L/R/U/D while stretching...30-45 seconds each, 3 sets
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words]...initial set at 75% (or just enough pressure to go 'hands-free') for 5-7 minutes (or until FR starts building-up). Withdraw and squeeze/jelg for 3-5 minutes, then back in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] for another 5-7 at 100% pressure. Repeat, then last [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] set at 100%+ while kegeling.

(you can mix-it-up during the 2nd set with expressive pulls/stretches in every direction, and you can also trap The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] between your thighs and tilt your torso back for a fantastic stretch mimicking BTC's)

so i gave this a try today and i like it i had to do the work in 2 sets i did the girth early then the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] late . I hoep to do it all togther tomorrow to see how the bundles effect my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] expansion

i did

7min pump
3 min mixed jelp
7min pump while doing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] thigh stretch this feels different then any stretch ive ever felt i love it
3min mixed jelps
7min pump
5min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] for the finsher

i also did the L R U D bundles 3 sets 30 sec each my soft hang was pretty crazy after these
 
3 set U D L R Out all bundles

7 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words]
3min jelq
7 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] ( with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] thigh stretch )
3min jelq
7min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] ( kegals the whole time )
5min clamp

Pretty good work out
 
DreadMan;749371 said:
3 set U D L R Out all bundles

7 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words]
3min jelq
7 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] ( with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] thigh stretch )
3min jelq
7min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] ( kegals the whole time )
5min clamp

Pretty good work out

How did you like the bundled stretches before the girth work? How do you wrap for your clamping work?
 
Then bundles before the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] work definitely made a difference. I felt more expansion on the 1st pump. Normally when I do 5-7 min sets the 1st pump doesn't have to much expansion. But I'm guessing with the tunica being stretched from the bundles i got more expansion .

When I clamp only use the theraband that came with my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]. I wrapped my cable clamp in electrical tape so I don't need much of a wrap I just need someone to stop my soon from pinching in the corner of the clamp
 
DreadMan;749385 said:
Then bundles before the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] work definitely made a difference. I felt more expansion on the 1st pump. Normally when I do 5-7 min sets the 1st pump doesn't have to much expansion. But I'm guessing with the tunica being stretched from the bundles i got more expansion .

When I clamp only use the theraband that came with my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]. I wrapped my cable clamp in electrical tape so I don't need much of a wrap I just need someone to stop my soon from pinching in the corner of the clamp

So happy you are reaping the rewards of Bundled Stretches. The most overlooked exercise of 2017.
 
Morning

I didnt have time to do a real work out in the morning so i decided to just do a quick pump and a few jelqs

10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] in shower cock ring after



Stretches
1 set U D L R Out 30 secs
2 sets bundled U D L Out 30 sec
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words]
7 min pump
3 min mixed jelq
7 min pump ( while doing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] Thigh Strecth )
3 min mixed jell
7 min pump
10 min Clamp
 
DreadMan;749536 said:
Morning

I didnt have time to do a real work out in the morning so i decided to just do a quick pump and a few jelqs

10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] in shower cock ring after



Stretches
1 set U D L R Out 30 secs
2 sets bundled U D L Out 30 sec

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words]
7 min pump
3 min mixed jelq
7 min pump ( while doing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] Thigh Strecth )
3 min mixed jell
7 min pump
10 min Clamp

Real as real can be my Brother!
 
doublelongdaddy;749555 said:
Real as real can be my Brother!

I don't know if you saw my other post but I'm basically crowd sourcing my program . This is basically what BSA suggested I just added in the clamp at the end . But I want to ask you dld do you have and suggestions on bettering the routine ?
 
same as yesterday keep the gain train going

Stretches
1 set U D L R Out 30 secs
2 sets bundled U D L Out 30 sec
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words]
7 min pump
3 min mixed jelq
7 min pump ( while doing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] Thigh Strecth )
3 min mixed jell
7 min pump
10 min Clamp
 
DreadMan;749616 said:
same as yesterday keep the gain train going

Stretches
1 set U D L R Out 30 secs
2 sets bundled U D L Out 30 sec

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words]
7 min pump
3 min mixed jelq
7 min pump ( while doing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] Thigh Strecth )
3 min mixed jell
7 min pump
10 min Clamp

Looking good Dread, keep it up
 
I kinda think i should add more stretches since im not doing the diagonal stretches im not sure if im getting enough stretch in
 
DreadMan;749619 said:
I kinda think i should add more stretches since im not doing the diagonal stretches im not sure if im getting enough stretch in

When stretching it is still the best idea to follow the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] stretching portion as it leaves no room for an angle to be missed. It covers every possible angle. If you have a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] you can do these stretches with that and they will be even moe powerful. But, in general, it is always wise to hit every possible angle just in case a gain lies in wait.
 
doublelongdaddy;749658 said:
When stretching it is still the best idea to follow the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] stretching portion as it leaves no room for an angle to be missed. It covers every possible angle. If you have a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] you can do these stretches with that and they will be even moe powerful. But, in general, it is always wise to hit every possible angle just in case a gain lies in wait.

What is your thoughts on bundles vs normals ?
 
DreadMan;749739 said:
What is your thoughts on bundles vs normals ?

Everything I have read here says that the bundles are what stretches the tunica to allow for better gains. I try to do bundles every chance I get
 
I'll echo L4G, when I use my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words], 90% of the work is done bundled
 
Big Schwanz Acht;749756 said:
I'll echo L4G, when I use my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words], 90% of the work is done bundled

Smart, so smart. I am going to write a total Bunle routine!
 
2 sets [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] Newbie stretches

2 sets bundled

7 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words]

5min clamp

7 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words]

5 min clamp ( while doing erect bends )



I basically did 15 seconds bends in every direction holding in different parts of the shaft to make sure I was getting the pressure every where

I finished off with a free erect squeezes basically clamped at the base the with my 2nd hand held and ok grip below the head

I really like this work out I feel like I'm getting alot of bang for my buck in want to keep everything under 1 hour

But I may adjust the pump time down to 5 min and do 1 more set of 5 min pump 5 min clamping . I'm thinking

1 clamping set just camping to warm up
2 and 3 clamping set will be clamped bends squeezes and jelqs


Now as far as the bundles vs normals go i feel i get a much better stretch with norms I can feel it in my base and ligs . I'm doing the both however
 
That routine looks pretty intense Dread. When I use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] I always do my bundled stretches first then follow with the normal stretches and BTC. I seem to get a better stretch when I do it this way
 
Lookn4girth;749812 said:
That routine looks pretty intense Dread. When I use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] I always do my bundled stretches first then follow with the normal stretches and BTC. I seem to get a better stretch when I do it this way

I'll give that a try

It is very intense
 
No i tried to but I was able to get it to work in think the issues was the wins vac I got I don't think it fits well I'm going to. Try again soon
 
DreadMan;749823 said:
No i tried to but I was able to get it to work in think the issues was the wins vac I got I don't think it fits well I'm going to. Try again soon

trust me on this...it'll triple the suction and make your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] sessions almost too intense (buyer beware type intense)
 
Big Schwanz Acht;749824 said:
trust me on this...it'll triple the suction and make your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] sessions almost too intense (buyer beware type intense)

I'm going to try it again today and see if I can get it to work

- - - Updated - - -

2 sets bundled

2 sets [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] Newbie stretches

5 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words]

5min clamp

5 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words]

5 min clamp ( while doing erect bends )

5 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words]

5min clamp while doing jelqs and squeeze's

I took your guys advice and did my bundles 1st and I felt like my normal stretch was stronger maybe the tunica being broken down allowed a better lig stretch
 
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DreadMan;749869 said:
Thanks man it took alot of tweaking but I finally found something I really like

You're welcome!
Sure, it can take some tweaking to find the right exercise in combination with time efficiency & privacy, etc.
 
Lookn4girth;749876 said:
Glad doing the bundles first helped you out Dread.

One of the best things I have discovered!
 
I didn't wanna train today at all I just wasn't feeling it

So what I did was take the hanging part off the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] put it on the i put a resistance band on the clip and then put the band on the bottom of my bed rail and laid in the bed for like 30 min I guess it was kinda hanging without weights
 
DreadMan;749977 said:
I didn't wanna train today at all I just wasn't feeling it

So what I did was take the hanging part off the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] put it on the i put a resistance band on the clip and then put the band on the bottom of my bed rail and laid in the bed for like 30 min I guess it was kinda hanging without weights

Good idea Dread. Did you get a good pull doing it that way?
 
DreadMan;749977 said:
I didn't wanna train today at all I just wasn't feeling it

So what I did was take the hanging part off the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] put it on the i put a resistance band on the clip and then put the band on the bottom of my bed rail and laid in the bed for like 30 min I guess it was kinda hanging without weights

sweet!
 
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