Only pe I did today was 10 min of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] pump pretty busy then to a friend's house to watch some college football
 
DreadMan;747245 said:
Lengthmaster on the way super hype I'm about to get these gains

That [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] will up your game for sure. Once you get a wrap that works for you it will be game on
 
Lookn4girth;747297 said:
That [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] will up your game for sure. Once you get a wrap that works for you it will be game on

I made a captains wrech which for those who don't know it's a ghetto [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words]

So I kinda have an idea ok for the wrap that works for me
 
Not the much training as of late just some [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] in the shower I'm almost done getting my program together for when my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] comes in I've made the decision to hit length hard still doing girth but a bigger focused on length
 
DreadMan;747305 said:
I made a captains wrech which for those who don't know it's a ghetto [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words]

So I kinda have an idea ok for the wrap that works for me

If you have a wrap worked out you will be ready to go when the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] hits the mailbox
 
So I think I'm just about done coming up with my next program for when my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] comes in

The only confusion I have is with bundles stretches . It's clearly bundles help with girth alot but do you still get the same length benefit from them . For instance if I where to do the newbie program with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and I don't hear 1st set normal and the next 2 sets bundled would I get the same length benefit as doing all 3 normal . I also play on adding some of the other stretches like the footling and Mandingo stretch as finisher . I decided to really focused on length I will still be doing girth jelqs and clamping but I wanna hit the length hard

Also I've decided to change my goals I'm now going for 9x6.5 .
 
DreadMan;747359 said:
So I think I'm just about done coming up with my next program for when my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] comes in

The only confusion I have is with bundles stretches . It's clearly bundles help with girth alot but do you still get the same length benefit from them . For instance if I where to do the newbie program with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and I don't hear 1st set normal and the next 2 sets bundled would I get the same length benefit as doing all 3 normal . I also play on adding some of the other stretches like the footling and Mandingo stretch as finisher . I decided to really focused on length I will still be doing girth jelqs and clamping but I wanna hit the length hard

Also I've decided to change my goals I'm now going for 9x6.5 .

Bundled Stretches work for both length and girth. As size expands in all directions, pre-stretching the tunica will benefit both. With the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] experiment and do some bundled and some not, see what feels good. I believe there is one more person on the forums going 100% bundled and I am hoping he pops back up to see the gains. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] will become complete customized in you own style so have fun and enjoy the journey.
 
Ok so your suggesting bundles in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] as a pre stretch for my normal stretches ?

I was also thinking of doing bundles before my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] and clamping i figure hitting the tunica hard would aid in expansion
 
DreadMan;747438 said:
Ok so your suggesting bundles in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] as a pre stretch for my normal stretches ?

I was also thinking of doing bundles before my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] and clamping i figure hitting the tunica hard would aid in expansion

That is what I do Dread. I start off with bundled stretches and BTC and then do the normal stretches. I have been known to switch it up a bit and do all BTC combined with the bundles
 
Lookn4girth;747441 said:
That is what I do Dread. I start off with bundled stretches and BTC and then do the normal stretches. I have been known to switch it up a bit and do all BTC combined with the bundles

Ok cool.im going to give that a shot today my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] is waiting on me now in the mail box
 
DreadMan;747498 said:
Ok cool.im going to give that a shot today my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] is waiting on me now in the mail box

wait till Ms. Dread gets a load of that contraption...it looks like a Medieval torture device
 
DreadMan;747498 said:
Ok cool.im going to give that a shot today my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] is waiting on me now in the mail box

Damn Dread, you got your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] already. I have still not heard anything on my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]x40[/words] for winning October
 
Lookn4girth;747576 said:
Damn Dread, you got your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] already. I have still not heard anything on my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]x40[/words] for winning October

I spoke with Support and they said they have tried to contact you, are you sure the mail is not getting to the spam box?
 
I just checked both of my email accounts and there is nothing in the spam folders. Do I need to send you or support a message with my email addresses
 
I do not think we have had a woman spend more time on the forums than 6 months. Hopefully they will return, a woman's perspective is so nice to have.
 
Hey guys I was tied up with some family issues and haven't been able to get on but I'm back at it now

Now on to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words]

I messed around with it yesterday took me a while to find a good wrap since I'm uncut but I was able to get it . Seems like the key for uncut guys is to roll for foreskin back as far as possible and make sure it doesn't roll back up . I messed around a didn't do to much just a basic newbie stretches . It feels much different than a normal hand strech

I'm still trying to get my new program together hopefully I will have something soon
 
Glad to see you back Dread. There is a learning curve with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] but it is a good piece of equipment to have in your arsenal
 
so ive still been messing with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] after the 1st day i was then having a hard time getting a good wrap since im uncut you really just have to keep as much forskin back as you can which is hard since it kinda rolls up by it self
 
ive also been playing with the power assit since its just a part of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] now . I feel the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] doesnt get much hype but i feel liek the leverage and different things you can do could lead to crazy gains
 
DreadMan;748015 said:
so ive still been messing with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] after the 1st day i was then having a hard time getting a good wrap since im uncut you really just have to keep as much forskin back as you can which is hard since it kinda rolls up by it self

I wish you success with that, Dread. I also am uncut, and have found constriction type hangers (The Bib, Malehanger, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] etc) to be extremely challenging. I used to have a Bib hanger and eventually threw it out. I could hang weight, for sure, and fairly heavy weight, but not without being in almost constant and increasing pain. Problem? The foreskin keeps getting pinched, as I've mentioned in a lot of posts over the years. It doesn't' matter, at least not to me, how much I retract the foreskin. It still somehow pinches some, and it hurts like a SOB from hell! I have an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] that I ordered a couple months back. I tried several different methods to avoid that pinching, but was unsuccessful. I just cannot sit there for 20 minute sets hanging, or even stretching, while grimacing from being in so much pain. It has been parked in my closet since 3 days after receiving it. I'll probably list it for sale here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] sometime soon. Nothing wrong with the device. Works like a charm...IF,IF,IF...you've been circumcised. Otherwise, it's a bitch to make work. For uncut guys like us, in my opinion, the vacuum hangers are the best option. They grip the glans and your foreskin is not an issue. Might not be able to hang as heavy a weight, but I'm not sure how important that is. Is hanging 25 pounds for 15 minutes more effective than 10 pounds for an hour? I don' t know. This is not an exact science. After all, people like the folks at PF and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] etc all say you can gain with relatively very low stretch, but over long periods of time. Others say you have to use heavy weight and then an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] to keep the stretch. Others say the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] is not necessary, and the heavy weight is sufficient. Maybe one day there will be a consensus, but for the time being, it's a bit of a crap shoot. But I share your frustration with using these devices while being uncut. Been a problem for me for years and years.
 
Fillerup;748018 said:
I wish you success with that, Dread. I also am uncut, and have found constriction type hangers (The Bib, Malehanger, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] etc) to be extremely challenging. I used to have a Bib hanger and eventually threw it out. I could hang weight, for sure, and fairly heavy weight, but not without being in almost constant and increasing pain. Problem? The foreskin keeps getting pinched, as I've mentioned in a lot of posts over the years. It doesn't' matter, at least not to me, how much I retract the foreskin. It still somehow pinches some, and it hurts like a SOB from hell! I have an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] that I ordered a couple months back. I tried several different methods to avoid that pinching, but was unsuccessful. I just cannot sit there for 20 minute sets hanging, or even stretching, while grimacing from being in so much pain. It has been parked in my closet since 3 days after receiving it. I'll probably list it for sale here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] sometime soon. Nothing wrong with the device. Works like a charm...IF,IF,IF...you've been circumcised. Otherwise, it's a bitch to make work. For uncut guys like us, in my opinion, the vacuum hangers are the best option. They grip the glans and your foreskin is not an issue. Might not be able to hang as heavy a weight, but I'm not sure how important that is. Is hanging 25 pounds for 15 minutes more effective than 10 pounds for an hour? I don' t know. This is not an exact science. After all, people like the folks at PF and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] etc all say you can gain with relatively very low stretch, but over long periods of time. Others say you have to use heavy weight and then an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] to keep the stretch. Others say the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] is not necessary, and the heavy weight is sufficient. Maybe one day there will be a consensus, but for the time being, it's a bit of a crap shoot. But I share your frustration with using these devices while being uncut. Been a problem for me for years and years.

are they any vacuum hangers you have used that work like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] ? as far as the assisted stretches go
 
DreadMan;748026 said:
are they any vacuum hangers you have used that work like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] ? as far as the assisted stretches go

The only vacuum hanger (other than the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] which is more of a low-weight [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]) I've ever personally used is a product called "The grip." But I bought that nearly 20 years ago. It could hang up to about 8 pounds. They have newer models now of course, but there are other options. The LG hanger looks promising, and some say it can hang up to 30+ pounds. Also, the vachanger3 which looks promising. The LG is quite expensive, but the reviews are pretty good. Do a little research on those items and see what you come up with. Now, do they work like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] for assisted stretches? Yes and No. If you're hanging weight, you can always use your hand, or a piece of wood dowling, or just about anything to hand the weight over, thus creating a v-stretch in different directions. You will be limited of course, because weight does not hang "up". If you look up "kingsnake" on youtube, you can find some videos of him hanging 20+ pounds with the LG vacuum hanger. I am considering either the LG or the vac hanger 3, which is much cheaper.
 
DreadMan;748026 said:
are they any vacuum hangers you have used that work like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] ? as far as the assisted stretches go

Nothing works like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], nothing! Grip! Intensity! Gains!
 
doublelongdaddy;748087 said:
Nothing works like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], nothing! Grip! Intensity! Gains!

True, if you're "cut." but for uncut guys like dread and myself, clamp-type hangers like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words], Bib, Malehanger etc can be very difficult to work with. And PAINFUL! Foreskin is always getting in the way, getting pinched, or slipping forward. I've tried them all and cannot use any without my foreskin getting pinched somewhere, somehow. Doesn't matter how far I retract it, or how I wrap. Foreskin still gets caught somewhere and hurts like hell. That is why I recommended a vacuum hanger. Being uncut is not an issue with them.
 
Fillerup;748182 said:
True, if you're "cut." but for uncut guys like dread and myself, clamp-type hangers like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words], Bib, Malehanger etc can be very difficult to work with. And PAINFUL! Foreskin is always getting in the way, getting pinched, or slipping forward. I've tried them all and cannot use any without my foreskin getting pinched somewhere, somehow. Doesn't matter how far I retract it, or how I wrap. Foreskin still gets caught somewhere and hurts like hell. That is why I recommended a vacuum hanger. Being uncut is not an issue with them.

I hear you and for some uncut men it does make things complicated. This can be worked through but the retraction sensitivity issue is pretty alarming and takes time to get used to it.
 
I'm not having issues with my skin pinching or hurting my issues is getting a good grip
 
I still have that problem also Dread. One thing that I did that helped a little is to take a piece of rubber/theraband and wrap at the back side of the base layer and have some of it on your cock. This seemed to help a little with the slipping
 
Big Schwanz Acht;748275 said:
do the vacuum-type devices solve this 'grip' issue?

I tried hanging 10# with my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] setup last night and it did what I expected. It started slipping about 5 minutes in. I reduced the weight to 7.5 and it held ok. I backed it down to 5# and it held that for 15 minutes with no trouble
 
Lookn4girth;748277 said:
I tried hanging 10# with my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] setup last night and it did what I expected. It started slipping about 5 minutes in. I reduced the weight to 7.5 and it held ok. I backed it down to 5# and it held that for 15 minutes with no trouble

if you supplemented the sleeve w/a CR, do you think that would help?
 
Lookn4girth;748277 said:
I tried hanging 10# with my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] setup last night and it did what I expected. It started slipping about 5 minutes in. I reduced the weight to 7.5 and it held ok. I backed it down to 5# and it held that for 15 minutes with no trouble

nice bit of recon, btw
 
Lookn4girth;748277 said:
I tried hanging 10# with my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] setup last night and it did what I expected. It started slipping about 5 minutes in. I reduced the weight to 7.5 and it held ok. I backed it down to 5# and it held that for 15 minutes with no trouble

Awesome you are experimenting, this is what brings the best modifications, when extra mind power goes into a device to make it better than intended. We have done this with all equipment here.
 
Yo Dready and Da Missuz,
It's been a real treat for me to share posts/ideas/questions w/you both...wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas!
 
Lookn4girth;748330 said:
DLD, have you had a chance to check on the emails I sent to you and support? I have still not received anything from support so I am not sure what is happening

No, I have not seen them??? Can you send to my PM box?
 
Big Schwanz Acht;748442 said:
Yo Dready and Da Missuz,
It's been a real treat for me to share posts/ideas/questions w/you both...wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas!

to you as well my friend
 
been super busy havnt been able to do to much training i had family staying with me over the pat week and they are sleeping in my office which is where i PE so my PE has suffered
 
DreadMan;748575 said:
they are sleeping in my office which is where i PE so my PE has suffered

I'm sure this makes for 'spirited' conversation over Turkey Dinner: Auntie Dread, 'what are all those tubes and slings for?' Uncle Dread, 'NVM' Dread, '(silence)'
 
How is it going with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] Dread?
 
DreadMan;748575 said:
been super busy havnt been able to do to much training i had family staying with me over the pat week and they are sleeping in my office which is where i PE so my PE has suffered

PE is not suffering you are by not making the gains :) JK

Sometimes things get very busy or you may become ill or some other reason for being out of commission for a while. This is not a terrible thing and in some ways it may be beneficial as when many take a break (decon break) they come back to make some of the best gains of their tenor. Get yourself in a good place and come back screaming for vengeance! I hope your New Year rocks!
 
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