What now?

Dapper Dan;654807 said:

Hi all
I've been doing PE (intermittently) for nearly 4 years now. The whole time I've basically alternated between jelqing and stretching routines. I have gained some (not that much) size but now I feel my routines do not have the same effect they once had. (Pretty predict able after a few years)
I take cialis daily to increase blood flow to my penis, reduce shrinkage l, and maximize erections. I think this had definitely contributed to some girth (and length) gains that I've gotten. So my question is. What's next?
I feel like I've squeezed (pun intended?) most that I can out of jelqing (and stretching) and feel it's time to up the intensity a bit. What are some suggestions you guys have if I want to add about an inch of girth still and maybe an inch of length (I already have a long dick that is more for vanity but still consider important)
Appreciate the input guys
Cheers!

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For girth, follow up with all the girth suggestions people are giving you. Use the suggestions that are free without a device! And please, when you run out of gains from 2-3 months, increase your intensity bro!

A device is always good...and if you are a member of MoS you can get a huge disscount..up to 50 % or even more.

Apparently DMSO is highly regulated in Canada

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Well that's aggravating.

I can see the governmental/medical-industrial complex's issue with it though .. you wouldn't want the common people curing themselves of over 80 classifications of illness, without official 'permission', for a few bucks. No one is going to embezzle billions of dollars that way ..

Here in the States there needs to be some deniability about using for animals or painting or whatever (because, not joking, our shidiot 'FDA' and Congress have passed a 'law' that says 'only pharmaceutical drugs can cure illness', and they'll jail anyone who tries to say differently. LOL. Nothing can "do" anything. All something is capable of (on its best day) is providing the nutritive materials, or the salubrious environment, for the body to use to heal itself. The fcking delusional hubris and cupidity of those guys that only something upon which they own a current patent is, coincidentally, 'capable of curing disease'. Fact is that Pharmaco hasn't cured a single thing in almost sixty years. It's not their business model to cure things. Cure someone and they pay you once, .. But treat their symptoms so they're beholden to you for protracted periods of time, more visits, more prescriptions, more drugs, to believe they're getting better and then you have a business model. Curing people, who needs that sort of nightmare? Fact is the medical-pharmaco combine here kills over 200,000 people every year through gross incompetence.

..But anyway .. at least we can buy DMSO here. There are probably ways for you to do so via internet and mail but you'll have to look it up, I don't know any of that for your nation offhand.

Check out this book, or at least read the description and excerpts at the link, for some more info on the substance: Cures stuff from headaches to back pain to phantom limb pain to cervical pollops to aneurisms to brain swelling to arthritis and alc tendon injuries to etc etc etc, -- despite being able to strip the clearcoat finish off of furniture it has the same 'toxicity' inside the human body as regular water (ie - zero), but official establishments have a hardon for f*cking with it cos it screws with their money and power.

DMSO: Nature's Healer: Morton Walker D.P.M.: 9780895295484: Amazon.com: Books

The whole thing reminds me of "Eat Right 4 Your Type" .. (ie - there are 4 different blood types and they have different healthful/neutral/toxic food lists based upon whether or not any particular food causes agglutination of your blood cells. That's the same way that poison works, and also the resulting mishmash of clustered cells can be misrecognized by the body and trigger antigenic reactions .. that's an autoimmune disorder where the body starts attacking itself .. leukemia, arthritis, etc. I had an Ex who was Pre-Med, this was many many years ago, and I'd told her about it and she read varying arguments and 'debunkings' on the internet so she wanted to see if she could find anything about it at the university's medical library. Find 'anything'. Turned out that the medical library had An Entire Floor (!) on the subject stretching back about fifty years. But, at the time, as few people as possible had managed to ever hear about it and they didn't teach it in medical school. WTF? Seriously.

Person: "Hey, my knees are falling apart and hurt like hell, should I stop eating corn?"

Doctor: "What? No, that's voodoo. Here, swallow this pill so you can no longer feel them as they continue to fall apart."

Person: "Thanks, Doc!"

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Also looked for a few links on DMSO that would be informative ...

DMSO - The Real Miracle Solution -- Health & Wellness -- Sott.net

Buyer be Aware: DMSO has a Down Side

DMSO: Many Uses, Much Controversy

so DMSO on it's own should be enough to weaken the scar tissue

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Yes, but if it's going to be a big issue obtaining any then you might want to look at some of the other methods. The Emu Oil and Xodine would be a good place to start.

Check this .. Successful human scar regeneration by topical iodine: a case report: an interim (3.5 year) summary. - PubMed - NCBI

'Hyperemic' just means blood flow was being regenerated, and the 'hair growth' was restoring follicle function to a damaged/scarred area of a face that is supposed to have hair growing .. it wasn't growing hair on a bowling ball (or side of a penis)..

If you can dangle (no pun intended, ha!) for a few days I can look into the bakingsoda/H2O2 when I get a chance and report back.

Jelqing makes my dock considerably thicker but I find it bring out the scar tissue more. Whereas stretching my dick isn't as thick but it's way straighter and longer. I want it all. Straight and at it's longest and thickest potential
My size fluctuates greatly can range from 6.5 to 7 length and 4,6 to 5.1 girth. My girth is what needs the most work but I'm hooked on length for vanity reasons I don't need to gain an inch but I just want to be as big as I can be

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I think you could add an inch, if you wanted, to either of those figures no problem without being overboard for size. The biggest deal, IMO, is just to not aim for a large theoretical size .. because it sounds like a good idea and has round numbers .. and then (cos with MoS you can hit it) go straight to it without stopping along the way to use it on people and get some feedback.

- Btw thanks Acromegaly.

The government has a antidote for every blood-borne pathogen did you know? They still let easy-e pass on, not cool man.>

I love MOS members. Smart dudes for sure
I might just try ordering from amazon (it says industrial use) but safe for human use?
And yeah I definitely try to test out my dick as much as I can along the way. Haha. I have a good idea of what's practical and what isn't and I'm gonna keep adding size until I feel I'm too close to that line but I wanna max out cause yolo dawg. Haha
Thanks you guys MOS is easily the best forum. Straight shooters

Dapper Dan;655279 said:

I might just try ordering from amazon (it says industrial use) but safe for human use?

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What do you want to order?

Hey man, maybe it's my browser but I don't see a way to reply to that other message..

The DMSO at Amazon will be great as long as its purity is marked as 99% or higher. The 70% and 80etc% creams and gels are for other kinds of stuff (muscle soreness, joint pain, etc).

They have to say it's 'industrial' because of the FDA's b.s. that 'only stuff from (our buddies at the) pharmaceutical companies can cure disease'.

Just, again, it's completely badass 'but' essentially "all" it's doing is allowing the damaged cells to signal/respirate, and therefore repair, themselves more quickly ... but they still need raw materials to use to do that with .. so they can go thru the 3 phases of regeneration. So also check out the Emu oil, and try to eat enough quality zinc (citrate or sebacate probably) , and vitamin C, and copper (probably sebacate) , they're all used in forming new cells and collagens. And manganese, and lutein, and lycopene. Hold on, since you're at Amazon anyway there's an easier way to do this ..

Best multi on the planet. Everything is properly chelated and coenzyme-activated, many of its ingredients are 30 to 99 times more effective than most of the garbage out there from the major makers, and even from the boutique makers. It's 4 per day, so the 120 bottle is a month's supply.
Amazon.com: Emerald Laboratories Men's 45 Plus Multi Vitamin, 120 Count: Health & Personal Care

Still need to add more vitamin C. Doesn't have to be anything fancy, in fact the cheap stuff is great .. as long as it's not bound to calcium (like in a tablet format). Some of the cheapest and best around is the raw powder form. Just stir some into a glass of water a couple of times per day. [and then also drink it, obviously. just stirring it into a glass would only be so helpful, ]. Vitamin C only tends to stay in the bloodstream for about 7 hours, so taking it in spaced-out doses is more effective than one giant time. Also try to get it between, or at least before, meals or snacks or anything sugary. Insulin and Vitamin C compete for the same transport mechanism for passing inside of the cells .. and Insulin (if it's high at the time) tends to win out .. wasting your C dose. I'd do 3grams of the powdered form, twice per day. Unbound powder can be eight times more powerful than the stuff that's calcium-bound in tablets, so 3x2 of that is quite a bit.

If you wanna go nuts, look up Liposomal Vitamin C. (Mercola tends to have the best prices). People taking that stuff are waking up and wondering "wtf, where did my Leukemia go??" - There are articles and videos out on how to 'make it yourself', but they don't produce the same product. The result is emulsified, and that's great, but the percentage of it that's actually Liposomal is really low.

There's one more thing almost worth mentioning, I say 'almost' because it's a fast shortcut for getting rid of the scarring .. visually .. but you might a have systemic issue that's allowing the scar formation to occur too easily and this wouldn't address it from the inside/out the way the other stuff would..

(Not recalling some very memorable catastrophic and disconcerting event that caused the scarring makes me think that. If it was caused by a big Ooops, you'd tend to remember. Not knowing why it's there sounds like internal proclivities for it.)

But look it up, .. there's a whole regenerative science called 'extracellular matrix', where they use a mesh of pig tissue on the scarred, burned, lacerated, missing, etc area to grow back good skin, new tips of fingers, new noses, terrible burns that leave no scars and have hair regrowing in just a month .. stuff like that. Last I'd noticed the top company was called ACell and they were working with plastic surgeons. An amount of the material might only cost $100 by itself, but then you'd have to deal with what a 'doctor' would charge to order it and 'expertly' pick it up and lay it on something. In Canada (?) that might be worth looking into, if you complained that it was some accident (not PE!) and it was keeping you from being able to enjoy sex, could just suddenly all be free, .. but again it wouldn't address any issues your body might have (genetically or from nutritional needs) for too easily forming adhesions. So if you look into extracellular matrix products, think about doing the nutrition too anyway.

wanna max out cause yolo dawg. Haha

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Hear That! :cool:

Asanon;655328 said:

Hey man, maybe it's my browser but I don't see a way to reply to that other message..

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What message are you referring to? Is it something wrong with the forum?

What message are you referring to? Is it something wrong with the forum?

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It was asking the same thing as above: whether Amazon's stuff was ok because it was marked 'industrial'.

I don't think there's a wrong with the forum, it was just a different type of message. I guess?

Normal PMs come in as a Notification, and then get put in the Inbox, and you can Reply to them, and also they're still in the Inbox later unless deleted.

This was more like a private comment, ? , weird, never seen those before. The comment showed as a Notification .. like a normal Thanks or PM, .. and asked a question, so of course that would elicit a reply, .. but there was no way to reply to it, and also apparently it wasn't saved later on in the Inbox either.

That might be normal for it, but have never seen one before .. and since it was asking a question the inability to reply to it was a bit of a "huh?"..

To finish the thought, as best I can tell it's also missing today even though I didn't delete it.

.. Swear I wasn't drinking

I heard rumors mastermind perfected his mallet technique and hammered his dick into a glorious monster cock

Crack is the new secret to gains bruh. Didn't u know??

I don't think crack is good for gains because it makes you turtle like raphael.

Just jokin mane

I know main

I want to try bundled stretches. Are they hard to do? Also will they toughen up my penis a considerable amount? I hope maybe they can even out my penis and maybe break down some of the plaque in my shaft
My dick when erect slightly twists to the right. :/. My plaque is bad

That exercise is bound to loosen up the plaque. I would follow-up with some firm jelqs to smooth out that fibrous tissue.

It could be normal that your dick twists a little to the right, and hangs a little to the left when erect. Changing that will take some time/effort. You want to make a twisting jelq-grip to 'forge' the tunica in the direction you want.

For example dld had a straight shaft, but he curved his jelq grip upwards and after one year of intense upward curving jelqs his shaft grew to curve up!

I don't think it would hurt to add some massage on the plaque with heated oil or something.

I wish I knew what my dick looked like 4 or 5 years ago. Jelqing good for my girth but not so much for my plaque I feel like it cause inflammation in my shaft. I just want to do something new go in a new direction for a while my PE is too predictable I want to freshen things up
I'm a bit afraid of twisting my dick then stretching tho sounds painful lol

Its not painful, give it a try.

Dapper Dan;656146 said:

I wish I knew what my dick looked like 4 or 5 years ago. Jelqing good for my girth but not so much for my plaque I feel like it cause inflammation in my shaft. I just want to do something new go in a new direction for a while my PE is too predictable I want to freshen things up
I'm a bit afraid of twisting my dick then stretching tho sounds painful lol

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If you want to step up you game you are going to have to go after those exercises that you fear, these are nothing to be scared of and they will ramp up your gains. You stated that SRT was too overwhelming, what overwhelms you? Have you tried doing bundled stretches?

I never said SRT is overwhelming
I'm scared if bundled stretches because I'm scared of twisting my dick but I'm gonna get the balls to do it sooner than later