Wow, this debate will never end will it ? My personal xp if that helps after 2 years of Penis Enlargement and 1 year and a half of
Bathmate :
- Gained a little in 7 months of Jelqing/stretching only (about +0,5" length/girth)
- Started using the
Bathmate only with the recommended standard usage for 6 months (20 min max, once a day, days off, entering flaccid). Did not see more gains from it(see below my opinion on that)
- Mixed
Bathmate and other techniques (clamping /
SSJ, Jelqs) after that and started getting a little bit more gain.
My conclusions so far :
1) With the
Bathmate you can easily get some permanent +0,5" temp gains if you use it everyday some 15-20 min (your dick gets expanded just because you keep on pumping, which is already nice) + GREAT before sex, period. For me it's already worth its price.
2) I personally think that in order to get actual perm gains with it you need to : a) Enter erect or at least semi erect, NOT flaccid. b) Do harder sessions than the safe recommended ones (i.e : Longer than 20 min a day, in sets of 5-10 min, Harder than just pumping every 5 min). Do it very regularly with some days off, and do it more than once a day if you can. hint : Check Dan_Clizer's results and his threads.
3) I would not stop doing other techniques along (clamping,
SSJ, Jelqs), as synergy will help make better gains as RED says (it did for me)
4) There are NO miracles. Penis Enlargement permanent gains are HARD and SLOW to get (they take months/years), but by mixing/adding many things you give yourself the best chance.
Warning : If you're like me, one "result" you're bound to get however, is a dark discolored dick. Mine was half dark with the
herc (weird), but I'm thankful it's better with the
X-40 now (only a slight clear circle at the base now)
RED, did you post your recent
Bathmate exclusive progress somewhere already ? I'm very interested in that.