I had a good session this evening and my head size really jumped in size with the Boa's. To respond to this thread again, yeah the Bathmate gives permanent gains and its just like regular usage of anything to do with Penis Enlargement, if its done enough with dedication and time is allowed for healing than growth will occur.

The question if it has permanent size is like saying does pumping as a whole offer such, and yes it does. The guy that mentioned the reasons for gains with the Bathmate are probably due to the other Penis Enlargement work alongside it ... I think you don't understand how Penis Enlargement works my friend. Many methods work in synergy with one-another and if you want the BEST maximum progression from your pumping workouts and in this case, Bathmate workouts, than its advisable to add some other methods to go with that such as jelqs, clamping etc as they will work very well(In synergy) with what the Bathmate has done and is like what hangers do when they hang weights and than use an ADS or extender afterwards. If you still cant understand that, well you need to start on a newbie routine and build the foundation of knowledge first.

Yes MOS gets a commission for sales through the banners here, but what's the matter with that? members get 25% off and a great service from a product that works. I suppose some will feel its being mentioned and talked about nicely here to push sales and alas income, but this is not the case. �other forum� makes commission on sales it has on various devices and in fact you would be hard pressed not to find a forums nowadays that doesn't, because they need every penny they can to keep the places alive when they reach to a size like MOS has.
 
REDZULU2003;373840 said:
Yes MOS gets a commission for sales through the banners here, but what's the matter with that? members get 25% off and a great service from a product that works. I suppose some will feel its being mentioned and talked about nicely here to push sales and alas income, but this is not the case. �other forum� makes commission on sales it has on various devices and in fact you would be hard pressed not to find a forums nowadays that doesn't, because they need every penny they can to keep the places alive when they reach to a size like MOS has.

There will always be guys looking to make a good thing a bad thing. The Bathmate has become as popular as the FastSize and with any Penis Enlargement product that guys are using with good results MOS will work to get it at a huge discount, which we have done. Commissions are decent and help keep this place running. I think the last donation MOS got was 2 years ago. WIth that said, I am happy that we have the couple affiliates we do, it pays the bills. Thundersplace, on top of any affiliate money they get, they also push donation threads every month. I make no illusions off of my success here, I worked my ass off for it and the couple bucks I make keep me working here, everyday, all day.
 
doublelongdaddy;373927 said:
There will always be guys looking to make a good thing a bad thing. The Bathmate has become as popular as the FastSize and with any Penis Enlargement product that guys are using with good results MOS will work to get it at a huge discount, which we have done. Commissions are decent and help keep this place running. I think the last donation MOS got was 2 years ago. WIth that said, I am happy that we have the couple affiliates we do, it pays the bills. Thundersplace, on top of any affiliate money they get, they also push donation threads every month. I make no illusions off of my success here, I worked my ass off for it and the couple bucks I make keep me working here, everyday, all day.

Not only that DLD, but Bathmate is protected by various patents making any company unable without committing a criminal offense and liable for huge amount of damages for violating the Patents. I know its very deep into business, but there are so many extenders out there that are not covered by patents so any company can feel free to copy each others design and improve on it.

With Bathmate, it is a unique design, protected against counterfeiters and copycats and several rumors are out there amongst the deep circles of the industry that major companies are in the works of making "Bathmate like" copies. Rest assured that they will be dragged to court and Ultramax will win, because the Patent is granted in US, EU and GB and not long until the Canadian and the Australian Patents will be granted.

Violating a patent can make a company go bust, because the Patent laws are very strict. My personal, not business question is, how can a company sell something for 300 USD having no IP rights when Ultramax that has spent over 500,000 USD world wide in patents charges a fraction of that price?

Perhaps its time for Bathmate doubters to listen to Dr. Baradas interview on http://Bathmatecheckout.com/us/radio.php It is VERY informative and its not every day an MD goes on a radio show, being paid nothing to tell his experience about a product.

I let it into your hands, but how can Bathmate, made in the United Kingdom, with Western Labour and Bayer plastics and Space Age NASA rubber, be so cheap when Penis Enlargement extenders go from 150 to 500 USD a unit? I don't get it, but the radio interview with Dr. Barada enlightened me a bit.

Just a question to ponder over :)

-- Agust
 
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Thanks AG, great information as usual. If you did not see, I have been switching all links to point at you so if you find some that are not please let me know so I can change.
 
Bathmate;372527 said:
Just a VERY BIG WARNING for any Penis Enlargement user.

That company, and I wont give them the pleasure of saying their name here for the search engines to pick up on it; is a counterfeit and legal actions are being taken against the company. I'll keep you updated, but its a cheap imitation that came from toxic analysis that would make any rubber tier proud.

"Selling, transporting, facilitating or buying counterfeit goods protected by patents, copyright and/or design registration is punishable by up to 250,000 USD and/or 5 years in prison" (In the USA). Elsewhere, laws are very strict, because patents are cash cows for governments.

In this scam, two fortune 500 companies are involved; and both are being dragged to court and I can't wait to see the outcome :) :)

Why is the thread title asking about any permanent length or girth gains and then you go on about a warning for a scam ?

I got a batHydromaxent a while back and the suction just would not hold, in my opinion I was sent a dudd or it's a scam because if it wont hold suction even in water there's no way it will in air.

Would like to hear about any real user of this forum that are not mods, no offence but I think Mods have a vested interest in the forum.

Cheers, all the best MOS members.
 
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Whysobiased;388946 said:
Why is the thread title asking about any permanent length or girth gains and then you go on about a warning for a scam ?

I got a batHydromaxent a while back and the suction just would not hold, in my opinion I was sent a dudd or it's a scam because if it wont hold suction even in water there's no way it will in air.

Would like to hear about any real user of this forum that are not mods, no offence but I think Mods have a vested interest in the forum.

Cheers, all the best MOS members.

Hell yea man, DLD pays for my boat, my Lexus, and my house.

Do you keep your pubes short? That's a reason that you may have had issues. Also, I've seen it mentioned that you may want to look at the cleaning video on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5FOYV39uAg

Some men have mentioned their problem with the Bathmate not sealing well was solved after watching this.
 
Whysobiased;388946 said:
Why is the thread title asking about any permanent length or girth gains and then you go on about a warning for a scam ?

I got a batHydromaxent a while back and the suction just would not hold, in my opinion I was sent a dudd or it's a scam because if it wont hold suction even in water there's no way it will in air.

Would like to hear about any real user of this forum that are not mods, no offence but I think Mods have a vested interest in the forum.

Cheers, all the best MOS members.

There are some medications for your numerous conditions, you should see a psychologist. Ask him about Paranoid Schizophrenia, obsessive lying and closet homosexuality. If you take care of these things you might be able to survive in a social system. I can see far beyond your jealousy of my penis and your envy of my success to a deeper level of a scared little boy with penis size issues and no friends. Get on meds and start to be a productive member.

You also need to understand that I am what they refer to as untouchable, meaning when anyone tries to attack me on any level they are met with a gang of motherfuckers down for whatever. Smarten up. When you talk to the boss do so with caution and respect.
 
do you think im a mod aswell?

In that case DLD owns me money! :)

Dude seriously. get a grip on yourself.

The Mod in here called Bathmate, is funny enough,,,,,,,, from Bathmate, they give us a direct line to talk with the company. and give them the possibility to answer the questions.

does DLD make money on this? absolutely, but if you think he is a Rich Mofo that drives a lambo then you don't have a clue about what your talking about. i assume he is getting a fee when we use the links to buy things on a discount (read: WE GET A DISCOUNT)
It is a normal business strategy really. he has a alot of potential customers on this forum, he contacts a company with a product he likes and gets a deal with them. we get a discount, he makes a few bucks, the company gets more customers. everybody is happy (except for you) in this occasion Bathmate has taken an extra interrest in us and i think they like the experimenting that is going on in here, because it is people like us who will get all the errors first (since we use the product to its fulliest) and therefor they can fix upcoming errors for other customers.

I have been using the Bm for less than a month so far, alone the extra fun it is makes it worth it in my world. combined with the fact that my cock get a really good expand from this, is a nice thing aswell.
If Bathmate would give you that many results from jsut doing it 20 mins a day in half a year? i don't know. but it is simple math for me, that if i pump my cock to an expansion that really pumps my chambers up, and then followed by that i do manual exercises to give it an ekstra knock. instead of doing my jelq from 50% to 101% every day i do my Bathmate, pump my cock up to the 101% and then jelq to get the extra pump out.

My first measurement is the 27 july, you should check it out then, if i have gains i don't know yet, but my cock does look thicker. and i can feel some nice stretches doing the Bathmate stretch workout.

if you want to believe me or not? i don't really care. there is 2 ways of doing things in this world. the winner way and the losers way.
Losers think, they talk, they argue, they hesitate, they sabotage themself before even get started.
The winners do as nike says: "just do it"

EVERY BUSINESS MAN IN THIS WORLD WHO HAD SUCCESS TOOK RISKS AND DID THINGS WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT THE CONSEQUENSES!

I guess you know what way your doing it.

even if i in 3 years found out that Penis Enlargement didn't work (which would shock me cause i have already gains) i still DID it. and got a shitload of experience out of it. in 1 way or another.
you would sit back and had talked about it. and could say: told you!

but remember you can talk all you want, i need to find just 1 method then im a winner.

Your still just a talker....

The new boondock saints movie can't be compared to the first one, but the intro with rocco just hits the nail so bad that most people in this world should be forced to see it every morning:

there is two kinds of people in this world when you boil it all down, you got your talkers and you got your do'ers most people are just talkers, all they got is talk, but when all is set and done, it is the do'ers who change this world, and when they do that, they change us, thats why we never forget them, so which one is you? do you just talk about it, or do
you stand up and do something about it?
because believe you me, all the rest of it just coffee house bullshit


Hola at cha!
 
Has anyone had any issue with the soft ring around the entry point coming loose or falling off on the Bathmate? Mine has started to come loose and so when i have it on and getting the expansion the hard plastic that the soft ring is glued to digs in to me pretty bad. When i release the suction it can get fairly painful.. I superglued it back but Im not sure I got it lined up right so its still digging.. I suppose its the price you pay for a fat cock haha.. has anyone else had this issue??
 
Yes this has happend to mines..mines actually just came completely offf yestedraday ..is there anyglue I can use for this I dnt wanna go through the whole process of gettin a new one
 
doublelongdaddy;389001 said:
There are some medications for your numerous conditions, you should see a psychologist. Ask him about Paranoid Schizophrenia, obsessive lying and closet homosexuality. If you take care of these things you might be able to survive in a social system. I can see far beyond your jealousy of my penis and your envy of my success to a deeper level of a scared little boy with penis size issues and no friends. Get on meds and start to be a productive member.

You also need to understand that I am what they refer to as untouchable, meaning when anyone tries to attack me on any level they are met with a gang of motherfuckers down for whatever. Smarten up. When you talk to the boss do so with caution and respect.

LOL at closet homosexuality. I actually feel pity for him and all the men out there with less than average penises that haven't given Penis Enlargement an honest try because of skepticism. Same with religion. Many dismiss all religion without at least investigating and giving it an honest try. How can you conclude that which you have no experience with? How can people say for instance, that the Quran is bullshit when they haven't ever read a fucking page of it! Jesus and Mary and so many Bible figures are in the Holy Quran as well! But we don't know that, do we, because we aren't supposed to. Anyway, so they troll to make themselves feel better in some fucked up, self-destructive way that doesn't really help them at all. Well, in the scheme of things, better than being told college would guarantee you success and then end up disappointed and dredged in debt.

I'm lying down on my bed right now with my laptop on my chest, waterpumping, using a backscratcher to hold up the Bathmate. 20 minutes. Man I love that plump. 5.75 post-pump girth easy. And I'm 5.125. Great to use before sex. Good luck to you 'whysobiased'.

Oh, and go sell crazy someplace else; we're all stocked up here.
 
What I like about religion is most have a ''my way or the highway'' path to righteousness. In other words, they are right, ONLY they are right, and you are damned if you believe otherwise. The flawed logic in that of course, being that nobody will get to heaven or wherever your religion says you go if you are ''good'' in this life, because and in fact, everyone is wrong according to each religion. ;) LOL, it's all quite ludicrous really. Sigh, I can only imagine the disappointment that will ensue when the Catholics die and find out the Buddhists were right, or the Muslims die and find out the Christians were right, or the Christians die and find out the Latter Days were right, or they all die and find out nobody was right. LOL.

Ah, but this is not a religious thread.

IF you are having technical issues SEND DLD A PM OR EMAIL, do not reply to an already busy thread hoping for help.
 
stillwantmore2;389188 said:
What I like about religion is most have a ''my way or the highway'' path to righteousness. In other words, they are right, ONLY they are right, and you are damned if you believe otherwise. The flawed logic in that of course, being that nobody will get to heaven or wherever your religion says you go if you are ''good'' in this life, because and in fact, everyone is wrong according to each religion. ;) LOL, it's all quite ludicrous really. Sigh, I can only imagine the disappointment that will ensue when the Catholics die and find out the Buddhists were right, or the Muslims die and find out the Christians were right, or the Christians die and find out the Latter Days were right, or they all die and find out nobody was right. LOL.

Ah, but this is not a religious thread.

IF you are having technical issues SEND DLD A PM OR EMAIL, do not reply to an already busy thread hoping for help.

What an ignorant thing to say. Like a fifth grader saying, "IF GOD IS REAL, WHY DOES BAD THINGS HAPPenis EnlargementN TO GOOD Penis EnlargementOPLE?!?" Oh, it is "quite ludicrous", isn't it? Come back to me after you've spent years researching religion and Freemasonry and the New Age bullshit agenda and all the bullshit inbetween. I was a hardcore atheist for years, thanks to the propaganda film "Zeitgeist". Took it hook, line, and sinker. Find the truth. It's hidden in plain fucking sight as 'they' say. Order out of chaos. They can blow up two fucking buildings in front of your fucking eyes and you still worship the fucking newscasters, don't you, you stupid fucking cattle pricks. Fuck yourselves and your gullibility. I'm drunk.
 
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Sorry, I shouldn't be casting pearls before swine. And I know my tone has been negative. But if even one might wake up to the truth, it'd be worth the stigmatization that I might face. And that's what important. Finding God inbetween the particles. And for those who say that religion and science are irreconcilable, I suggest they shut the fuck up about shit they don't know fuck about. You want to know who your fucking gods are? Look at the fucking television.
 
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Most fucking Christians haven't even read the fucking bible. Most fucking Christians still believe in Christmas and Easter and all the bullshit holidays. Most fucking Christians still believe the Sabbath day is Sunday, when it's fucking Saturday. Who changed it? The fucking Catholic church. Couple thousand molested kids and sure, they're still men of God, aren't they? And they love drinking the blood of Christ and eating his flesh don't they? Upside down crosses and secret mocking gestures and all the bullshit inbetween.
 
I have known men who have urinated on the Bible, blasphemed the name of God and His Son. I have known men who have done despicable, unspeakable things. And I have known of the same men who eventually found GOD. After knowing of the Mysteries. After knowing of the Occult (which means 'hidden'). If you don't think the truth is worth spending a fucking hour a week trying to find the truth, then fuck yourselves. And how dare you judge when you haven't even bothered to try and find the truth. How dare you dismiss all of it because Science hasn't given you an answer. How dare you dismiss the religions when you haven't read a single fucking page. But your logic is, if it were true, why haven't you heard of it? Where are the millions involved that haven't spoken out? And it's so much easier living, doing whatever you want without fear of a god, isn't it? Why should you be fucking bothered when all you want is to experience this temporary existence.

LOL APRIL FOOLS. WE ARE ALL BUT SHADOWS AND DUST. WE ARE THE EVOLUTION OF FUCKING BACTERIA. WE HAVE NO MEANING BUT THAT WHICH WE HAVE GIVEN OUR RACE OURSELVES. THIS LIFE IS ALL WE HAVE. WHEN WE DIE, THAT IS IT. Penis EnlargementRIOD AND DONE. SO LIVE LIKE THERE'S NO AFTERLIFE.

I choose to remain willfully ignorant. I find comfort in having the majority opinion. Why should I be bothered to take a weekend to read a fucking book when ___ is on television.

If you've got decades of life left and can't be bothered to even sort of attempt to try and unravel the TRUTH, then FUCK yourself you lazy pricks.
 
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You want hard proof and not just a leap of faith? What if I told you there was hard proof. Hundreds of examples at least. You'd ask me to list them. But how would you believe of heavenly (other worldly) things when you do not believe of the earthly things I have told you? I wouldn't even know where to tell you to start. 9/11 is a blaring example, and if by then you don't believe explosives took down those buildings exactly like a controlled demolition, verified by hundreds of your fucking god-scientists and engineers that you worship, then you are absolutely fucking hopeless. Too far gone and indoctrinated. You might as well drool all day while watching the television.
 
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Here's a level I shouldn't even say because you fucks won't even understand and again, if you do not believe of the earthly things, how could you believe of the heavenly? At the end of it will be the religious and the atheists. And they both will be taken for a ride for a new religion. It is not a mistake that you are an atheist. It was designed to be that way through all the social conditioning tools that they have. Almost nothing is coincidental. But you will fall hook, line, and sinker for the counterfeit. The shill. The poser. The antichrist, which means in place of or counterfeit, not against. Wolf in sheep's clothing. But again, more pearls before swine. You will laugh and go on about your lives and fine. In time. Oh ye, of little faith.
 
Correction: 3 buildings, including WTC7 which is so conveniently never mentioned. Wasn't even in the Commission Report. But I'm sure your gods in Washington have a good reason, right?
 
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