stridge said:
Your argument makes a lof of sense. I do think most, if not all penis size surveys use the NBP measurement. Neither can I imagine them shoving the ruler against the pubic bone.
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Your argument makes a lof of sense. I do think most, if not all penis size surveys use the NBP measurement. Neither can I imagine them shoving the ruler against the pubic bone.
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. . . . . C'mon guys, everyone "chill-out" ! We would all love to have NBP 9 inch cocks!
Unfortunately the Penis Enlargement community standard of measurement is basically "Bone Pressed Measurments" ?
But as we all know - many of us love the "Bone Pressed Measurments" for an ego booster - me included (it [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] at least an extra .50 of an inch to my measurments - real "confidence builder") and when I fuck, she gets all the Bone Pressed meat up to my pubic bone - slammin' ; I mean I really get goin and ram until my pubic bone actually slaps/hits her pubic bone and when we fuck in the ass - it hits her tail bone (guess that would be called "tail bone pressed" TBP . . . . . LOL). So I use it all - even what you cant see, and she love every bit of it.
She's a Bad Mama Jamma !
Unfortunately the Penis Enlargement community standard of measurement is basically "Bone Pressed Measurments" ?
But as we all know - many of us love the "Bone Pressed Measurments" for an ego booster - me included (it [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] at least an extra .50 of an inch to my measurments - real "confidence builder") and when I fuck, she gets all the Bone Pressed meat up to my pubic bone - slammin' ; I mean I really get goin and ram until my pubic bone actually slaps/hits her pubic bone and when we fuck in the ass - it hits her tail bone (guess that would be called "tail bone pressed" TBP . . . . . LOL). So I use it all - even what you cant see, and she love every bit of it.
She's a Bad Mama Jamma !
GashKing said:
We're chill, we're chill . . . Just a friendly debate here.
As you can see in my pics, there's no way I'm getting to use whatever extra length the bone-press measurement gives, although given that my girlfriend's vagina isn't very deep in the first place, I don't really need it. I'm mostly trying to gain just for visual appeal and to see if I can actually make it happen. I'm already at the leanest weight I can maintain without annoyingly strict diet and exercise, so I can't take my own advice and just trim a few pounds to hit the goal, which sucks because I feel like that's a hell of a lot easier and safer than Penis Enlargement. Even then, I really don't have much of a fat pad so I doubt additional weight loss would help.
I'm thinking I'll post some more pics some time to demonstrate what I mean about the inaccuracies possible with the bone-pressing, or at least the variation it can cause with measurements. Campaigning for the NBP measuring can be my pet project on the boards while I get into the Penis Enlargement again . . . I'd encourage anybody to try measuring NBP overhead stretched just to check it out though. I think it's a really easy and consistent way to measure for gains. If you can get a longer measurement doing that and your weight is around the same figure as your previous measurement, you can be 100% sure that you've gained something.
Exactly what Gash said.
The fat guys vs skinny guy isn't a personal argument, but I'm just sticking up for ALL members when I argue.
Just because someone is skinnier doesn't mean they have a bigger dick. BP makes things equal.
BTW, doctors often say "light pressing into the pubic region" when they are bone pressing, so yes, they don't say "jamming it with all our might into the pubic region."
I saw that urologist measure that guy BP on The Perfect Penis, in which DLD was in, and he lightly pressed the ruler into his fatpad.
The fat guys vs skinny guy isn't a personal argument, but I'm just sticking up for ALL members when I argue.
Just because someone is skinnier doesn't mean they have a bigger dick. BP makes things equal.
BTW, doctors often say "light pressing into the pubic region" when they are bone pressing, so yes, they don't say "jamming it with all our might into the pubic region."
I saw that urologist measure that guy BP on The Perfect Penis, in which DLD was in, and he lightly pressed the ruler into his fatpad.
10inchadvantage said:
Indeed - I was never suggesting guys without extra weight are actually larger on average. That being said, I think there is a tendency for some who do have a large fat pad to get a little overzealous with the measuring liberties. I'm not just taking general impressions, I've seen it many times on this site, and this is some of where the inaccuracies with bone-pressing arise from, at least in part.
A good example might be a hypothetical me. Say I'm 50 lbs. heavier and I have a fairly thick fat pad, but everything else is exactly the same. Say I measure my NBP and I get 6.25" (assuming an inch for the fat pad). Then, I BP measure, and manage to get the 8.25" that you can see in my picture. Now, we know that's not my real size because I don't really have the fat pad, but I might be lead to believe that if I were taking a BP measurement with the fat pad. See what I'm getting at?
Again, my basic argument is just that NBP, in my opinion, is easier to be more consistent and more accurate with, which is very helpful if you're tacking the very small incriments that most gains arrive as. I'm not one of those guys who only measures every six months, I'm looking for progress every few weeks, which may be a 1/10 of an inch or so - I don't trust all the variations possible with bone-pressing when looking for these minute ammounts progress. With NBP I know the ruler placement/pressure/angle isn't compromised.
So far as doctors, I do believe that they might press it into the fat pad a little, all I have to go on are the reports I read long ago about the conduct of a penis size survey. I can, however, say with a degree of confidence that I doubt many doctors would measure the same way as most men measure themselves BP around here.
That should actually be the real test for guys: are you measuring yourself as somebody else conducting a study might?
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Food for thought!! 
To be continued.......:s
To be continued.......:s
Yes I see many people just jam it into their fatpad. It looks painful. I can BP with some pain and get a longer measurement, although it's not much.
Also, I understand what you mean by the "looking for 1/10 of an inch" thing. It's hard to measure that progress regardless of how you measure, because you're not sure if it's your best erections, etc. There are always lots of factors in measuring.
My main logic for having the BP as the standardized measuring is that it leaves our heavier people if we switch to NBP. The skinnier you are, the more advantage you get from having a NBP standard. However, if you are heavier, you have a big disadvantage if BP is not the standard. Therefore, since skinny guys have almost the same NBP as their BP, BP is still just as accurate for them, as is the fat guys. While if the standard was NBP, fat guys would be at a 1-2" or maybe more of a disadvantage, while skinny guys wouldn't loose any advantage that they had in a BP standard.
Therefore, I say BP should always be the standard.
Also, I understand what you mean by the "looking for 1/10 of an inch" thing. It's hard to measure that progress regardless of how you measure, because you're not sure if it's your best erections, etc. There are always lots of factors in measuring.
My main logic for having the BP as the standardized measuring is that it leaves our heavier people if we switch to NBP. The skinnier you are, the more advantage you get from having a NBP standard. However, if you are heavier, you have a big disadvantage if BP is not the standard. Therefore, since skinny guys have almost the same NBP as their BP, BP is still just as accurate for them, as is the fat guys. While if the standard was NBP, fat guys would be at a 1-2" or maybe more of a disadvantage, while skinny guys wouldn't loose any advantage that they had in a BP standard.
Therefore, I say BP should always be the standard.
10inchadvantage said:
I'm really not arguing to change the standard though - just suggesting that the way many guys take a BP measurement around here isn't really accurate, for tracking gains and actual size. I honestly don't believe there's anything I could say that would sell the larger Penis Enlargement community on BP - I'd say at least 3/4 of Penis Enlargementers reject NBP measurments outright.
That being said, I think I've offered a few reasons why NBP is a better option for lots of guys - probably not overweight guys, but many nonetheless. It's not about anybody having an "advantage." I'm not sure what that means, nobody needs an advantage when they're just measuring themselves.
That being said, I think the most compelling point I make is the issue I raise in the above post:
Right now I have a very minimal fat pad, in fact I don't think it affects my visible or usable penis in any way - I'm getting 100% of what I'm packing right now. If I were to gain a ton of weight, however, and develop a significant amount of fat in the pubic region (let's say obscuring my NBP measurement down to 6") - I bet you green money that I could still get a legit BP measure of 8.25", just as I can right now with very little fat pad. Now, I know from not having the fat pad that my penis is nowhere near 8.25", but I can easily bone press that measurement using a much less forgiving method than many guys who really cram/shift the ruler. In essense, if I were to BP measure as a heavier guy, I would get an inflated measurement.
My exact physiology may not apply for everybody, but the principle is sound so I hope you see my point. I know I don't actually have my current BP measurement (~8") - but I also know that if I were hypothetically using BP measurements because I was heavier, that I would be getting that inflated number (still ~8") and might end up mistakenly considering it legit. My real penis size is 7", but I'm heavier, so I BP, and I take a measure of 8" - and then believe this to be my real size.
BP simply isn't a reliable indicator when you consider stuff like this, and as I've said I think it's grossly inefficient for measuring purposes.
Of course, in your BP in the picture you do have the ruler to the side, so that really can help boost up the numbers. However, if people wouldn't jam the ruler in on the sides of the penis I think it'd really reduce all the number inflation. I've seen quite a few men measure along the sides of their penis.
I don't discredit NBP, I measure myself with both measurements, perhaps that's the best way to go about things? It's like a compromise.
I don't discredit NBP, I measure myself with both measurements, perhaps that's the best way to go about things? It's like a compromise.
10inchadvantage said:
Dude, really no need for a compromise. I'm just sounding my opinion here. You, like anybody else, are free to measure however you wish. I'm not trying to specifically convince you to measure a certain way, just replying to the debate. The measurement pic is to the side a bit, as you point out, but I promise that doesn't affect it greatly. I'll probably post some more pics to demonstrate at some point, but it's not really my mission to sell everybody on NBP 100%. If you compare to most around here, that's a very mild bone-press - for instance you can actually see where the ruller begins. It really doesn't change my point that if I were heavier and decided I needed to BP to get an accurate measurement, it would still be inflated. And to me, that's pretty secodnary to the fact that I just don't think BP is more accurate.
People will measure however they like best, I just feel that NBP is dogmatically discouraged around here, so I was giving a different point of view. It's just one example - please don't take it as me trying to get you to measure yourself differently. I personally don't care what people choose to do, it's just my two cents.
I think BP is generally less accurate, which is contrary to the reasoning behind doing it in the first place. I've explained why I feel this way just to encourage people to keep an open mind on the matter, maybe try it out, think about it a little, but ultimately I really don't care how other guys choose to measure themselves. I just happen to think that NBP is better - you or andybody else need not fear about me posting on your threads being critical just because you don't measure like I do.
That being said, I do think the way I NBP measure in the picture is about as close to any medical way of doing it, not to mention that it's easy, reliable, and very clear. For some reason you don't get a lot of that on this site, or any other for that matter.
I always thought my hands free measuring technique was kind of a worthy approach as most men complain liberally that they can't hold the camera and the ruler at the same time, hence all the grainy close-ups and blurry pics. It's a great way to get clear, reliable photos for comparison, especially for motivation if you do see some gains. Taking the picture from a distance is less flattering on the old johnson visually (things look smaller from farther away), but that's a small price to pay for clarity. I just thought other guys might want to give it a shot, it worked well for me - I can still use those pics for comparison today and I think they're around two years old.
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GashKing said:
Exactly what I do mate, slam it home.
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stridge said:
I understand exactly what your saying and agree that penis size surveys probably dont BP but than again we would have to research into that more and look around for how they all measured.
For me BP has been the best method. I measure the same position eachtime from the top pushing right into the bone ... you can feel the bone with your fingers actually. Doesnt make much difference to my NBP as I have just over 1/4 inch fat pad if that and I can use the length hidden in sex anyways.
To each their own when measuring but I do agree on getting the smallest detail on the ruler can be very hard i.e those who say they are for example 8 .45 and than a few weeks later they are 8.72 ... a small margain of error exists when getting it SPOT ON like that with BP ... so for me stick to close whole numbers and round down to the closest ... I actually do that, so when I was 8.25 I would say 8.2 but didnt cement that so I'm actually now anywhere from 7.7 to 8 inches BP but if I were to be accurate it would be very hard to pinpoint with BP measuring but worthwhile doing over NBP because that isnt takeing into account the penis hidden by the fat pad and a margain for error exists on that because how can we possibly remember the EXACT same force and area we applied our ruler to on our skin when we did our last NBP? think about it, margain for error on all measuring methods.
Stick to which you like and use NO OTHER ... I have seen guys measuring from the side of their penis ... fair enough, its their choice I wont knock them.
For me its always been on top into the pubic bone measured to the end of the glans ... BP and that is a accurate account of my length ... if I get fatter around the lower abs than I will lose weight and be sorted ... guys who have a larger BP and smaller NBP and want the NBP to equal the BP, simply lose weight .. always said this and it can and has been done just ask DLD.
I understand what you're saying, but I didn't quite get this part:
"a margain for error exists on that because how can we possibly remember the EXACT same force and area we applied our ruler to on our skin when we did our last NBP? think about it, margain for error on all measuring methods."
It seems like you're suggesting that you push the ruler in somewhat for NBP - I don't do it that way, thought that was the whole point. When I measure NBP, the ruler starts where the visible penis does, so there's np pushing at all to create any inaccuracy. My picture shows how I do it.
I see your point about rounding numbers, but for me it's mroe important to track the gains (if there are any), so I don't really do any rounding.
I don't so much care what my total penis measurement is at the end of the day, I'm more going for increased visual appeal, and I want to be sure that my Penis Enlargement routine is efficitive to that end, hence the need to see solid gains and the desire for the extra accuracy of the NBP.
"a margain for error exists on that because how can we possibly remember the EXACT same force and area we applied our ruler to on our skin when we did our last NBP? think about it, margain for error on all measuring methods."
It seems like you're suggesting that you push the ruler in somewhat for NBP - I don't do it that way, thought that was the whole point. When I measure NBP, the ruler starts where the visible penis does, so there's np pushing at all to create any inaccuracy. My picture shows how I do it.
I see your point about rounding numbers, but for me it's mroe important to track the gains (if there are any), so I don't really do any rounding.
I don't so much care what my total penis measurement is at the end of the day, I'm more going for increased visual appeal, and I want to be sure that my Penis Enlargement routine is efficitive to that end, hence the need to see solid gains and the desire for the extra accuracy of the NBP.