10inchadvantage said:
Sorry for misunderstanding you on the 99% thing.
As for bonepressing, sure you can just JAM it in there, but you can usually tell when people do that. In my pics I press enough to feel the "end of the fat". When I did that measurement a few days ago I did not feel pressure on my pubic bone.
Do a test with your finger. Stick it into your fatpad until you feel something like a strong skin resistance. Notice that you are not jamming it in, but merely pressing the skin(with fat underneath) back. However, press down hard, and you will feel a strong resistence from within the pubic bone itself. The difference between these two measurements can probably be up to .3" inches or more with a flexible ruler.
I'd say if you are doing bonepressed and feeling pain from the pubic bone then you are really fishing for those numbers, but I still see no overall problem with it, as it IS the maximum size you would be if you had 0 fat pad. However, I don't jam it into my fatpad, not because I think it's "cheating" or anything, but because I just can't hold it for more than two seconds.
NBP can be very deceiving, as I demonstrated in my pics that I recently posted. I had a pic of me just standing normally, no hands pulling my penis down, no nifty camera angle, just me standing with a normal erection. Honestly, if I were someone else looking at just that picture, I'd guess I was no more than 6" long. This is sort of going off topic, but your posture, camera angle, and the way your penis ENTERS your body when you are erect can dramatically change the "camera magic" of a penis. My penis has always "hid" when it was erect when I had no hands(or a vagina) to yank it out from underneath my body.
This is really making me think, again, how people have different ways in which their penis "hides" in the body when you are erect and use no force to "stabilize" it. I encourage you to take a look at those pics and see what I am talking about. Also, my "flaccid" in my pics looks nothing close to over 6", I'd guess no more than 4 if I was a bystander.
I have seen a few posts on the LPSG of members who have the same type of penis I do. It seems much smaller when you use nothing to pry it loose, even though it never lost any size. I also saw their pics and I had the same type of exit point, and other things, like how the penis curves into the body when erect, as these guys.
No worries on any misunderstanding, I weant back and reread what I wrote and it doesn't convey what I intended, so you actually gave me a chance to clarify.
I haven't seen your pics - tried to take a look at your thread but it started slowing down my laptop heavily and I could see there were some giant photos embedded, so I quit out of the browser. You may want to just resize those or start a new one sometime as that one seems pretty overstuffed. Either way, I'm not addressing you personally, so please don't take it that way. I'm just waxing philosophical in general terms here, not harping on specific individuals.
So far as NBP being very decieving, I'll just have to take your word for that. In the case of my body, it adds length that is never visible in my erection, nor come into play during sex or otherwise - in effect it's just adding some extra measurement that I don't think actually exists.
I'm not sure what you mean about guys having their penises hidden and being stabalized by force or whatever, and I really have no desire to check out the bizarre-ness of websites like LPSG. One dick-related forum is more than enough for me. But, I can tell you that I've maintained a body weight about 35 lbs. heavier than my current weight (current: 190lbs, 6'1") for sports, which I feel is a significant amount, and it really didn't effect the view or functionality of my penis in anyway. But I'm sure whatever you're talking about is something unique to the individual.
So, I'll just summarize why I think NBP measurements are better, at least for me:
Bone-pressing, while tohught to be more exact, allows for several different variables. Pressure on the ruler, angling, the physical curvature of one's pubic bone (we've all seen the folks who measure into the corner of the pubic bone where the cuvature is at its highest - I can flaccid stretch over 9" when I do this - yet the old erection remains 7.25" - this is where many of the sily measurements we see on Penis Enlargement sites comes from).
Many men also start the ruler somewhat into their torso, meaning that they don't press the ruler at the base of their penis, they functionally allow it to 'slide-up' up a ways into the pubic region, which can ad significant amounts of length.
Now, none of this actually matters of you're measuring the exact same way every time, but I feel that if you are tracking minute amounts of progress, such as just a few tenths of an inch, then there are just too many things that could be done slightly differently and still "feel" the same to the measurer, which will undoubtedly compromise their results. It "feels" the same to me everytime I do lots of things, but I guarantee that is not always the case, and the same goes for BP measuring. I completely fail to see how it's so much more accurate, and like I said, I think the idea is just deeply ingrained in Penis Enlargement without a lot of very solid reasoning.
Only measuring your actual visable penis, however, eliminates this problem, in my opinion. Unless you are gaining and losing large amounts of weight extremely rapidly, it's highly unlikely that your pubic region is drastically changing in size. Your penis, on the other hand, should theoretically be reflecting the Penis Enlargement work, and will change in proportion to the pubic region. There are no measuring mistakes when you simply don't BP - I feel the point of reference is much stronger.
Now, I understand that a lot of guys simply don't like this for various reasons, but I think that unless you are overweight, the NBP method is going to give you more accurate tracking and a better picture of what you're actually working with down there. Everybody is different, but I think for most guys, bone-pressing is just really counterproductive.