Ok so i have worn the new version of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] for a week and let me tell you im impressed i will give you the good and the bad on this product. well there is very little bad with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] but i will go over the bad first then on too the good.

first off the company offers no spare parts other then the penis cap sleeve and the outer sleeve that goes on the bell. also the price on the sleeves for the bell are price 29.99 for just one sleeve. i emailed the company about spare parts and they only offer the belt but no penis cushioned ring and no locking part that goes on the end of the belt that attaches to the locking part that attaches to the bell shows tension you are using. nor do they offer purchase of the bells or the micro pump. now the plus is that they warranty all parts other then those they sell so theoretically you can get then for free if you break them or they malfunction. for me i just purchased a whole second kit as i can see losing the pump or the bell or even breaking the pump some how by accident.

now the good
i have only lost suction once while wearing the device. it never caused blistering. Comfort with this product is unmatched i have used ever device on the market trying to find the one you can sleep in and wear with eases during the day, and only this product has offered this. why do i say this as the Penis Master pro is comfortable and you can wear it for tons of hrs. well with the pro you need to use the lube every-time you re apply this means that you must travel with the lube and with a bulky pump or use the pump tube with the stopper. with the belt the pro works like the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] but i found the shape of the penis pro annoying due to how round it was and i got some pinching on the shaft. i got none of these things from the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. my wear time with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] has been no lower then 8 hrs but normal wear is time per day is from 12 to 20 hrs i can wear this device for 4 hrs plus with out any issues but i due take it off every 4 hrs to use the bathroom and allow the small amount of fluid dissipate over 30 min.

fluid retention is almost 0 on this thing. there micro vacuum is awesome it is small and and only allows enough pressure in the bell to hold you in but it is also quite strong it in one word is perfect vacuum device plus it is attaches to the bell the bell has 3 symbols on it one is a dual arrow this is were you put the pump on to the bell then a quarter turn there is a pump icon you pump on this icon then turn it to the lock icon this lock suction in. so pump and bell and belt become one unit this allows for quick on quick off nothing to put in your pockets nothing to lose. the negative is if you lose the pump when not locked on the bell your fucked. and will have to wait till they send you another. thats why i bought a second kit.

so were did i wear this thing well i wore it out to the bar i also forgot i had it on and was showing some one some martial art moves not grappling stand up with some kicks. its just that comfortable.now im sure you will be thinking this thing must have no tension but it feels like 300-600 grams of tension but knowing if you are at right tension level is as easy as if you can see green this is the perfect tension used in there study, yellow or red are max tension amounts on the spring loaded tension bars that attaches to the bell and then locks on the belt. green is at the bottom of the bars yellow and red above that. they make it really easy for the user to make sure they are in the green.

sleeping in the device is awesome the sleeves are so light that they dont constrict blood flow during night erections. no pain and i never have woken up because of it.

i can attach the device in like 30 seconds and take it off in about the same time. ok after one week my flaccid hang is much longer and my wife has been complaining about increased size. now i am also using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words] 2 times per day about 15 min each time. i have been thicker in the pump since i started using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. i think the key to this device and were others fail is that wear time is so easy and in such large numbers that growth a cures.


all in all i think this device kicks ass and is made very well but the sleeves are delicate and it is a must to apply baby powder the the sleeve and the glands cap. at least a couple times per day. i would buy at least 1 extra sleeves i can see them tearing although none have tore yet for me. i will do an update in in 30 days.

The below and above are post i copied from my pe gym thread over first 2 weeks of wear. i went kind of crazy and maxed out tension and wore it directly after doing my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] 20 min session at night and got small red spot. i then didnt lay off but kept tension at max and the red spot became a small tear this healed in 3 days so no big deal nore did it hurt i had to really look at it to see that there was a layer of skin missing. this was not the fault of the product but me the user getting crazy with it. but i want to have a full account of what i did and what not to do for others.


ok so wore it for 10 hrs while i slept last night it did lose slight amount of suction but no fluid to speak of and just one small red spot on the tip. so far im at 6 hr today. keep you posted on gains and any negatives. oh i have run through one of the medium sleeves already so im thinking they are good for about 2 weeks maybe 3 but this is a negative for those who dont have the 60 bucks per month on sleeves after the 319 price tag. i would say the price of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is good but they should make the sleeves more like 10 bucks or like 5 for 40. not one for 29.99 but there is no product on the market that is this good or has this type of wear time.

ok so i finally was to over zealous i had it on green for the first week and a half then i wore it for 10 hrs while sleeping and i got a small red dot on the tip of the glands it was just red but i then wore it for another 8-10 and maxed out tension. i then pumped and with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penoment[/words] and strapped it on for like 4 hrs when i took it off i had a slight surface skin tear.very small but i have to stop for at least 24 to 48 hrs. so the i guess i should have just followed the directions and this would not have happened.

ok so i did a quick weight test on the tension indicator and to my amazement it max weight is about 4 lbs actually a little more this equals 1814.37 grams of tension so if any one thinks it doesnt pull hard they are mistaken. just for reference the jess [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is 1500 grams the Penis Master 1100 i think.

this is around 600 grams of tension at max at each color.

the penis master recommends 600 grams of tension. all the others recommend 1200 once you have gone through a breaking in stage.

DLD had posted this first on pe forum as some of the same guys are on here are on there as well. the guy from [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] wrote on my review and emailed his supervisors about cheaper sleeves because it was one of my major complaints, i think you should contact them get some kind of discount thing going as this product is really well made. it is the first product i have ever worn all night with out issue. 10 hrs straight while sleeping but i think to be safe 6-8 should be make 30 min off. repeat.

i hope this helps any one thinking about this product.
 
the above post is from about 5 weeks ago i wore it for 2 then had the skin issue right before leaving for [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]fl[/words] for 10 day then back home biz was crazy so one more week no pe except for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penoment[/words]. now back at it.
 
some tips and hints for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] users.

ok i was having some issues with loss of suction at first i thought condom sleeve i powdered it like instructed in the owner manual. but still kept losing suction. so i thought it was the pump. but it wasn't it was the condom sleeve you see the sleeve,( i use medium sleeve medium bell) is tighter when new but stretches out over time and the powder caused some kind of slow leak but if you dont use the powder then the sleeve adheres to the penis and no loss of suction or very little.

some extra instrutions i think will help
i put on the head sleeve then insert all the way into the bell roll sleeve down all the way then check for any skin that is pulled up or bunched up roll sleeve up to the head condom base pull any loss skin down. then hold on the condom were it meets the head sleeve pull forward to keep penis tight then roll sleeve down, i then apply pump rotate to pump icon i keep the penis almost at the base of the bell then start pumping till i cant pump any more then rotate to lock icon and apply belt

30 min i check suction and then rotate to pump to make sure it is tight seal then rotate back to the lock icon. re fasten the clip of belt to bell then leave on for 4 hrs.
 
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ok so good news i just went to pe gym and the rep julian said that company approved for any new person buying [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] direct from them next week you will get 3 extra sleeves of your choosing. dont buy it till it says you get you 3 extra sleeves, at least there willing to work with the pe community i told there rep on pe gym to contact dld to see if they can workout a deal through the sites any discount for the pe community is a good one. also i recommended they change or add the tension levels of green yellow and red for users on there site and they said they are going to add that as well. i remember when you had to pay a grand for the jess [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] now the pe world is so big companies are truly listening to the pe community.
 
this what the post said over at other site on my thread since he isn't on here yet.


Hi,

thanks for your mail!
If a customer buys through an affiliate account, there will be no difference as it runs over our shop system.
At the invoice it will say:
Voucher for one time 3 sleeve condoms. ......
........................... and so on

But this will be offered at the beginning of next week and mentioned on the website as well (just in case someone reads this, orders straight away and is upset)!

The problem is that we are for the first time launching our product in the USA. Therefore there are not too many which can already report about it.
In Europe we have around 4 Million customers, mainly in Germany, as [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is being paid by the Governmental health insurance due to the clinical trials.
Therefore there are sadly not a lot English speaking customers ..... till now

I definitely agree with you that the costs are the main reason for not purchasing the product. The costs are that high because of the materials being used and of course due to the manufacturing (molding). [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is a Medical product class one, therefore the product is being tested if there are any materials causing allergic reaction. The condoms for example are made out of Medical silicon which doctor’s use for implants (so highest quality). But that does not matter, as the customer is king! Since we were not able to lower the price we decided to add 3 condoms free of charge. So you would have 4 condom sleeves in total, which you can use for 8-10 month.

If a condom breaks in just a day or two due to a material issue, we would ask you to please make a picture of the condom, send it to us and we replace it for him.
 
I went ahead and bought the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], should be in sometime this week. I really hope it's not a wasted 350 dollars.
 
I am using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] right now. There is not Penis Enlargement device as confortable as [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] out there. However, I am also using [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words] with [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words], [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] and jelqing routine. My goal is to use [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] during sleeping time at night.

I will keep you guys update with my progress.
:)
 
still using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] its been 8 weeks i have gone from the medium bell to the to the large bell and i used to be to small for the large condom even after pumping but now fit in it nicely i am in the in-between the medium condom i was at 5 .75 clamped max expansion now around 5.90 it looks longer but im reserving measuring length till the 3 -4 month mark as study was an inch in 6 months.

i were the device 10 hr per day with no issues and you can sleep with it on i just dont sleep all night with it on cuz i get up to pee and take it off and never put it back on.

so far this device is the best out there bar none no pain tons of hrs in and the tension level in the full red goes to 6 lb but i stayed in green mid way in the first 6 weeks now i bumped it up to yellow great stretch. i have been on the other pe website because the support thread is there and the rep from [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is on there to help other out with questions. one guy who is a newbie gained 1/2 inch in six weeks. im 2 inch in so my gains i assume will be slower.

it is more expensive then most stuff but you can buy stuff you have to modify and fiddle with to get in maybe 6 hr or you can get [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] and just strap it on and were it all day long with no restrictive type movements nor any pain super wear time no one on the other thread does i think less then 8 hr per day. its a no brainer to me.

now there is a small learning curve putting it on for some but for me it was easy and i never had an issue they are giving away 3 extra condoms if regular condoms are loss ask for smalls if reg condoms fit as for medium if you are 5.5 girth medium will work perfect for you if you are 6 then large is what you want. or you can ask for 1 small 2 medium or 2 medium 1 large or any combination you like.

ill stop back here to check if any one has questions other wise you can find me on the other site pe gym. both these sites are great but there are not tons of people on here yet trying [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] so im over there more.
 
Great review! I've been thinking of getting an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to round out my routine.

One thing I've wondered is what happens after the six month point. It seems that device studies are for a period of months and show encouraging results. After that, what happens? If you use the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Forte[/words] for six months and gain an inch, will you continue to gain with further use? Intuitively I'd say yes, but it would be great to know if anyone has any experience.
 
Yeah, I'm about 3wks into using it. And I agree the device is pretty awesome. I'd give the company a couple more months and they'll be trying to sell parts and stuff. Though did company site says the offer a 2-year warranty on parts. Not sure if you gotta pay for something though.
 
andalite24;573419 said:
Yeah, I'm about 3wks into using it. And I agree the device is pretty awesome. I'd give the company a couple more months and they'll be trying to sell parts and stuff. Though did company site says the offer a 2-year warranty on parts. Not sure if you gotta pay for something though.

Interesting, I've been looking at this for a bit but really hadn't seen any English reviews that didn't seem like they were actually [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. I cannot wear my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] to work or to sleep in so I've considering going with this. Would have already pulled the trigger if not for the cost. I gained a LOT back I could do manuals and wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for hours at a time because I worked from home. Now that I have a job I GO to I simply can't wear it during the day anymore, far too bulky a device.

Maybe time to start saving.
 
Hey DLD did you look into the possibility for a deal for us on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] yet?

After long thinking about on whenever to get a vacuum [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] device the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] seems to be it, so I will get one. :)
 
9inchtall there is a better and much more efficient alternative that will last probably ever..Buy a silicone sleeve from the vacextender site..The condoms are too expensive, worst thing about [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is their condoms...Anyway, for $20 bucks you get a long silicone sleeve that you can make 3 smaller sleeve for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], and they NEVER rip unless there is a tear at the edge which you can easily get rid of with a scissor...They are thicker than the condom sleeves and a medium silicone will be just a bit tighter than condom sleeves but they also stretch more so you will have no problem with the circulation..1/3 of the sleeve I use for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]PHallosan[/words], the other 2/3 I wear it as an anti-turtle device, it is about 5 inches in length.
 
Thanks alot! I'm gonna order it now. I'll continue using my balloon until it arrives. I'm using a 36 inch balloon at the moment and man, it's a great temporary (or even permanent) solution. Check it out http://s40.photobucket.com/user/dawgbite77/library/Mobile Uploads

I'm glad we have so many alternatives to replace the condoms. I was just posting on another site that I think it's ridiculous to make fragile and expensive condoms that's meant to be stretched and pulled all day. Thanks again for confirming what I've been hearing about the autoextender sleeves.

Mind telling me which sleeve you bought?

FishScale;575497 said:
9inchtall there is a better and much more efficient alternative that will last probably ever..Buy a silicone sleeve from the vacextender site..The condoms are too expensive, worst thing about [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is their condoms...Anyway, for $20 bucks you get a long silicone sleeve that you can make 3 smaller sleeve for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], and they NEVER rip unless there is a tear at the edge which you can easily get rid of with a scissor...They are thicker than the condom sleeves and a medium silicone will be just a bit tighter than condom sleeves but they also stretch more so you will have no problem with the circulation..1/3 of the sleeve I use for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]PHallosan[/words], the other 2/3 I wear it as an anti-turtle device, it is about 5 inches in length.
 
9inchtail;575511 said:
Thanks alot! I'm gonna order it now. I'll continue using my balloon until it arrives. I'm using a 36 inch balloon at the moment and man, it's a great temporary (or even permanent) solution. Check it out http://s40.photobucket.com/user/dawgbite77/library/Mobile Uploads

I'm glad we have so many alternatives to replace the condoms. I was just posting on another site that I think it's ridiculous to make fragile and expensive condoms that's meant to be stretched and pulled all day. Thanks again for confirming what I've been hearing about the autoextender sleeves.

Mind telling me which sleeve you bought?

Here's what it said on my receipt

"C - Replacement Xleeve
Item# 12001 , Number of sleeves: 1 sleeve , Specify sleeve selection:: soft"

so medium soft replacement sleeve i think, cost $20.00 USD.

The condoms are fucking ridiculous! I'm so glad I found the sleeve alternative from a member named DreamOn at Penis EnlargementGym. I got 4 condoms from them and I'm left with the last one, and I've only reached 90 hours so far..I already checked the baloon method and it seems like a cool way to prevent wasting time because of a ripped sleeve..But the silicone is so great, I got them last week and it was MUCH less easier to put on and wear after the first time, EVEN the first time as the condom sleeves are just too hard..I did rip a little bit of the silicone accidentally after my first set with it but that was because there was a tear at the edge so always make sure to get a scissor and cut .2 MM or a little bit more off the silicone edge so you know there is no more tears and it will likely last you for a very long time..
 
Thanks so much for this info. Apparently [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is coming out with a new condom next month that will be more durable.

FishScale;575515 said:
Here's what it said on my receipt

"C - Replacement Xleeve
Item# 12001 , Number of sleeves: 1 sleeve , Specify sleeve selection:: soft"

so medium soft replacement sleeve i think, cost $20.00 USD.

The condoms are fucking ridiculous! I'm so glad I found the sleeve alternative from a member named DreamOn at Penis EnlargementGym. I got 4 condoms from them and I'm left with the last one, and I've only reached 90 hours so far..I already checked the baloon method and it seems like a cool way to prevent wasting time because of a ripped sleeve..But the silicone is so great, I got them last week and it was MUCH less easier to put on and wear after the first time, EVEN the first time as the condom sleeves are just too hard..I did rip a little bit of the silicone accidentally after my first set with it but that was because there was a tear at the edge so always make sure to get a scissor and cut .2 MM or a little bit more off the silicone edge so you know there is no more tears and it will likely last you for a very long time..
 
9inchtail;575598 said:
Thanks so much for this info. Apparently [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is coming out with a new condom next month that will be more durable.

Hope those fuckers don't charge double for these...
 
KNOBLIN;575914 said:
i heard they are sending all the previous buyers free condoms to make up for all the ones that ripped etc.

Ah really, that's good to know...

Tbh the condom sleeves rip too easily, I just ordered a few silicone sleeves from autoextender, they are much better, you never lose suction, unfortunately the shipping and other fees cost almost half of hundred...
 
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I ordered some last week from autoextender. Have you gotten a tracking number yet? I haven't.


FishScale;575981 said:
Ah really, that's good to know...

Tbh the condom sleeves rip too easily, I just ordered a few silicone sleeves from autoextender, they are much better, you never lose suction, unfortunately the shipping and other fees cost almost half of hundred...
 
Yeah I got a email from Paypal saying my package is on it's way and the USPS tracking number, maybe it's cause I'm in canada and I paid almost $45 CAD for shipping and etc..
 
Yeah I bought two this past Saturday. Cost me 44 bucks all together, and I'm in the US. But hopefully they are as durable as everyone says, it will be money well spent.


FishScale;575983 said:
Yeah I got a email from Paypal saying my package is on it's way and the USPS tracking number, maybe it's cause I'm in canada and I paid almost $45 CAD for shipping and etc..
 
Do you guys get good tension with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]? Can it give a reading like some [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] like 500 grams tension 1 kg tension? etc
 
I get good tension with mines, but then again I don't use a lot of tension. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] uses colors instead of the traditional grams. But the colors do represent grams, but you'll have to Google that unless someone here knows.


8incyclops;576068 said:
Do you guys get good tension with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]? Can it give a reading like some [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] like 500 grams tension 1 kg tension? etc
 
8incyclops;576068 said:
Do you guys get good tension with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]? Can it give a reading like some [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] like 500 grams tension 1 kg tension? etc

Yeah I do actually, I never thought I would be able to get any kind of fatigue in my base but my right side base gets extremely fatigued if I keep it in very very low green = 1/10 green bar...Unfortunately I don't get the same on the left base, so I'm thinking of putting a lot of tension on the right angle so the left base gets fatigued as well, I switch up directions (left/right) every day or two and for the past two days I've been doing right side and my left base is still not sore to my knowledge...If kept on long enough, my base can get extremely sore that I will HAVE to take it off for a bit and change angles, sort of like hanging...

Weird thing I noticed is even when I keep my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] to the right angle I still develop more soreness on the right base...
 
Oh I can definitely wear it all day and night no problem...I was just amazed at how effectively this gave me fatigue with less than 1 kilo of tension...I have worn mine for 6-8 hours no problem, I also wear it at night while sleeping for 4-5 hours. then I wake up and take it off and get some sleep again...
 
FishScale;576118 said:
Oh I can definitely wear it all day and night no problem...I was just amazed at how effectively this gave me fatigue with less than 1 kilo of tension...I have worn mine for 6-8 hours no problem, I also wear it at night while sleeping for 4-5 hours. then I wake up and take it off and get some sleep again...

No length gains so far? I'm thinking of buying one currently I have a [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]peni master[/words] pro I wear it for 1-2 hrs take off then stretch for half hour and do 40 jelqs adding 40 every 5 days to 200.
 
I'm at 140-150 hrs give or take, although I want gains I don't expect any gains earlier than 500 hours...But on the side note, maybe I have gained, I can measure to almost 7 NBP if I am able to keep erection unitl measuring (my EQ is shit)...I'm hoping with better EQ I can get to 7.25" NBP since I can measure 7.7 BPenis EnlargementL on Shitty EQ....It is really difficult for me to be 100% sure to say if I gained anything..I remmeber few days ago I used to measure with a measuring tape, and it used to give me 7.75 BPenis EnlargementL and about 6.8 NBPenis EnlargementL everytime I measured, and on the ruler I could only measure up to 6.25 NBPenis EnlargementL, So maybe I gained about a quarter inch or a bit more due to better EQ or even newbie gains or it could all just be a measuring mistake...I'm hoping to measure 8 BPenis EnlargementL with my ruler by the end of February so I know for SURE that I gained...I will let you all know..
 
FishScale;575983 said:
Yeah I got a email from Paypal saying my package is on it's way and the USPS tracking number, maybe it's cause I'm in canada and I paid almost $45 CAD for shipping and etc..

That shipping from monkey bar on autoextender is BS he's trying to make money like those ebay sellers who jack up the shipping costs>:(
 
Look up ab silicone on Google. I ordered something called a pump sleeve that I think may work for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. I should get it Monday so I'll try then and report back.

It's cheaper than the xleeves. Cost me $17.99 free shipping.


8incyclops;576347 said:
That shipping from monkey bar on autoextender is BS he's trying to make money like those ebay sellers who jack up the shipping costs>:(
 
I tried the pump sleeve today. It's basically the same as the xleeve, but you can only make two condoms for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] with them, instead of the three you can make with xleeve.

The cost is $17.99 and shipping is included in that. Only down side is it comes in one size. So guys with bigger girth may find it too tight. I'm only 4.75 eg and even smaller flaccid, so it works great for me.
 
9inchtall, told you it's great...I gotta get my nails cut lol I think they are the sole reason for getting tiny tears in my sleeve...

yeah the shipping fee is fucked up lol messed up how its so cheap in US but on the north, its almost 40 bucks and I live less than 40 km away from US border lol...2 new xleeves shall arrive this week, the sleeve I'm using now is my first sleeve, experimental, and this has lasted me almost a 100 hours so far...I'm sure 6 of them will go on for much longer...


Some honest personal opinion of my own on [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] and the Sleeve,
Earlier today I almost injured myself today while working out at the gym and doing cardio with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] on...When I touched my dick near the frenulum afterwards I had a sharp pain whenever I touched it, it was hurting while taking it off, and I saw a straight line made through the frenulum horizontally from the protector cap + vacuum, maybe one of the veins near the frenulum got cut, thats how the pain felt...Phallosan is a very comofrtable device that I sleep with without any problems, but the thing is EACH time you put it on it is slightly different, and every time I get some foreskin sucked in between the chamber and also the sleeve and that makes me very uncomfortable...Sometimes it will itch on the glans which is INSIDE the chamber that you can not touch and do I even need to explain how bad and uncomfortable it feels when you are itching like a motherfucker in a very sensitiive spot but can't itch it hahaha fuck
 
Yeah sounds like you overworked yourself. I hope you recover fast and get back in your pf.

I had an inching episode of my own while driving. Drove me nuts. I ended up taking off my pf while at a red light lol.

I keep getting fluid right below the glans, on the foreskin-- all the way around. I'm trying to figure out how to stop this. I'm currently going 4 hours at a time before I take a 5 minute break. Maybe I shouldn't go any longer than 3 hours before a break.

My xleeve is working out great. I don't think I need to worry about condoms for the pf anymore. With the two xleeves that I have, I made 6 condoms for the pf. I also bought another silicone tube that is just like the xleeve and I made two of condoms out of that. And I'm still waiting for my free pf-condoms to arrive in the mail. So yeah, I'm all set on materials.

Got a question for you, how long should we stay in the green before we move up the yellow? The instructions never mentioned this.

FishScale;576441 said:
9inchtall, told you it's great...I gotta get my nails cut lol I think they are the sole reason for getting tiny tears in my sleeve...

yeah the shipping fee is fucked up lol messed up how its so cheap in US but on the north, its almost 40 bucks and I live less than 40 km away from US border lol...2 new xleeves shall arrive this week, the sleeve I'm using now is my first sleeve, experimental, and this has lasted me almost a 100 hours so far...I'm sure 6 of them will go on for much longer...


Some honest personal opinion of my own on [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] and the Sleeve,
Earlier today I almost injured myself today while working out at the gym and doing cardio with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] on...When I touched my dick near the frenulum afterwards I had a sharp pain whenever I touched it, it was hurting while taking it off, and I saw a straight line made through the frenulum horizontally from the protector cap + vacuum, maybe one of the veins near the frenulum got cut, thats how the pain felt...Phallosan is a very comofrtable device that I sleep with without any problems, but the thing is EACH time you put it on it is slightly different, and every time I get some foreskin sucked in between the chamber and also the sleeve and that makes me very uncomfortable...Sometimes it will itch on the glans which is INSIDE the chamber that you can not touch and do I even need to explain how bad and uncomfortable it feels when you are itching like a motherfucker in a very sensitiive spot but can't itch it hahaha fuck
 
I resumed right after I came home and took a shower..I'm also noticing red spots though, and loss of sensitivity but oh well...I never understodd how fluid buildup is supposed to look/feel...

Good question, to be honest I don't have a clue...Although a user named kickinthemeds at PeGym who claimed an inch of gain from [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is still in mid green after 1000+ hours...But he does stretches, jelqs and other stuff with his [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] ... Another user named DreamOn who gained over an inch from [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] got to high tension very fast and stayed there and he doesn't do any other type of Penis Enlargement...

I sometimes experiment with higher tensions, only went slightly above green, and only for 30 mins...I always stay low to mid green..While sitting I prefer the white part showing with only a slight bit of green (1 milimeter)....For the most part of my 190 hours I've been white to low green..I want to stay at this until I reach 500-700 hours at least...I still get fatigued with just the white part showing...

I got a question for you too...Do you have this issue where you get fatigued on one side of the base more or only? I seem to be getting fatigued on the right side of my base from having the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] to the left direction, but my left base does not get that sore when I keep it stretched to the right...Right base is really easy to fatigue, even with very low green tension I would be able to fatigue my right side base in a few hours..sometimes it gets so sore I have to switch angles but it doesn't happen for the other side...
 
No, I've never been fatigued on either side. I used to get sore from the foam ring, but I placed padding there and it's no longer an issue.

If your dick seems tighter on one side, you may have to work that side only for a few days before switching up. I'm no professional at this at all, though. It's just something I would do.

Now if it's just an issue of irritation from the foam ring, then you can just use some padding, or some Vaseline at.

Besides that I don't know. I'm thinking you are tighter on one side and need to focus on stretching that out.


FishScale;576453 said:
I resumed right after I came home and took a shower..I'm also noticing red spots though, and loss of sensitivity but oh well...I never understodd how fluid buildup is supposed to look/feel...

Good question, to be honest I don't have a clue...Although a user named kickinthemeds at PeGym who claimed an inch of gain from [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is still in mid green after 1000+ hours...But he does stretches, jelqs and other stuff with his [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] ... Another user named DreamOn who gained over an inch from [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] got to high tension very fast and stayed there and he doesn't do any other type of Penis Enlargement...

I sometimes experiment with higher tensions, only went slightly above green, and only for 30 mins...I always stay low to mid green..While sitting I prefer the white part showing with only a slight bit of green (1 milimeter)....For the most part of my 190 hours I've been white to low green..I want to stay at this until I reach 500-700 hours at least...I still get fatigued with just the white part showing...

I got a question for you too...Do you have this issue where you get fatigued on one side of the base more or only? I seem to be getting fatigued on the right side of my base from having the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] to the left direction, but my left base does not get that sore when I keep it stretched to the right...Right base is really easy to fatigue, even with very low green tension I would be able to fatigue my right side base in a few hours..sometimes it gets so sore I have to switch angles but it doesn't happen for the other side...
 
I stopped using the foam ring after the first 70-80 hours... I ordered a leg strap from autoextender, and it came with many ropes and strings, hooks and stuff...I never use the leg strap, just the string that came with it..I take the foam ring off the PF Belt, attach the string with the belt, that gives the belt the extra length needed to wrap the belt around one of my thighs...It is much better for me personally, it does get a bit annoying sometimes but wayyyyyyyy better than foam ring...What padding do you speak off?
 
Are you familiar with the comfort pads that used to come with the strap-type [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]? Well I use two of those on the foam ring. I wrapped them around and sewed them together. Worked out better for me. I also tried the leg method, connecting my pf belt with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] belt. But the Damn thing kept riding up my thigh and irritating me.

Hey I have an idea, if you own a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], you can do some stretches with that to try and loosen up that tight side. And afterwards strap on your pf and see if that helps.




FishScale;576458 said:
I stopped using the foam ring after the first 70-80 hours... I ordered a leg strap from autoextender, and it came with many ropes and strings, hooks and stuff...I never use the leg strap, just the string that came with it..I take the foam ring off the PF Belt, attach the string with the belt, that gives the belt the extra length needed to wrap the belt around one of my thighs...It is much better for me personally, it does get a bit annoying sometimes but wayyyyyyyy better than foam ring...What padding do you speak off?
 
Should be ordering mine in the next few days, they are sold out worldwide until feb 20th. I've been told by customer support that when I order, after I find the size I need I will receive 4 condom sleeves of my size choice for free - bonus!!! looking forward to joining the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] journey!
 
I think you'll love it. You may end up tweeking it a bit to fit your personal comfort. And that's great about the four free condoms. I'm only getting 3. Be careful with them. I ripped mines the day I received my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words].



Bravo;576461 said:
Should be ordering mine in the next few days, they are sold out worldwide until feb 20th. I've been told by customer support that when I order, after I find the size I need I will receive 4 condom sleeves of my size choice for free - bonus!!! looking forward to joining the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] journey!
 
yep, hope so! its going to be a big help with all night stretching. the durability of the condoms is the only thing bothering me, they did tell me in the email that the new ones are more durable. I did mention that this was being discussed on the forums and they reassured me that the new ones have been redesigned and should be fine. only time will tell! ill post when I receive it and give a review also or if I have any questions. nice one on the post to all, for bringing this device to my attention :cool:
 
Yeah I was told I would be getting one of those new condoms for free, since I waited so long to receive phalloson. But since I've found all of these silicone substitutes, I'm not worried about [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] condoms at all.

I'm absolutely loving my pf. It's been about 3 weeks now and my eq has already improved. This is really blowing me away. I'm only wearing it for 10 hours a day but I definitely see some improvement.

Bravo;576491 said:
yep, hope so! its going to be a big help with all night stretching. the durability of the condoms is the only thing bothering me, they did tell me in the email that the new ones are more durable. I did mention that this was being discussed on the forums and they reassured me that the new ones have been redesigned and should be fine. only time will tell! ill post when I receive it and give a review also or if I have any questions. nice one on the post to all, for bringing this device to my attention :cool:
 
9inchtail;576459 said:
Are you familiar with the comfort pads that used to come with the strap-type [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]? Well I use two of those on the foam ring. I wrapped them around and sewed them together. Worked out better for me. I also tried the leg method, connecting my pf belt with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] belt. But the Damn thing kept riding up my thigh and irritating me.

Hey I have an idea, if you own a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], you can do some stretches with that to try and loosen up that tight side. And afterwards strap on your pf and see if that helps.

Yeah I know what you're talking about. I own a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] myself, just hated it since day one...I don't use leg strap, just the string that comes with it, I use it like you would with a ring but just tie it to use side,...
 
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