2x10 Pumping 10 minutes VSP and 10 minutes VCP method. Mixing in both.

2-hours of Extending in the SiliStretcher, before pumping.

1x20 Red Light and NIR therapy.

I added a session of bathmate pumping for 10 minutes last night, after normal training. I may do the same tonight again. Not super high pressure, just enough to get expansion and keep pumped.
 
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I did throw in the extra bathmate session last night. Didn't get as much expansion as I would have liked but I wasn't going that hard either. I think I am going to have to start adding SSJ's back to my routine soon as I condition upward to get the expansion and girth I want.

For me right now, I think the thing I really want is girth. I am over 8" in length, and through the process of my girth work will probably be back at 8.5" soon (but will need to cement that). I am more than long enough for my wife, easily hitting her Cervix and giving her cervical orgasms, which she loves. I don't REALLY need more in that department. But I really would like to exceed 6" and even hit 6.5" in middle erect girth. So I am just rethinking my focus.

This routine is already pretty girth focused, but I think I need to add SSJ's and probably need a siliring or clamp to help with expansion.

Feeling the soreness for sure today, so today is an active rest day, 2-hours time in the silistretcher and 1x5 pumping session. Red Light Therapy 1x20 minutes.
 
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Another day of kick ass work! I am so happy to have you back in action!
 
A rare thing but I had to work all-day today on a Saturday. Such is life sometimes. It doesn't happen often so I don't complain. Just blessed to have a good job.

That being said, I only had time for a 3x5 Bathmate session and 1x20 Red Light Therapy today. Better than nothing for sure. Back at it tomorrow with normal routine.
 
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You are so right you are so blessed! I’m glad you were able to get something in today too. Sometimes you got to take it day by day
 
Solid training day yesterday. 2x10 VSP Pumping Method, 20m Red Light, Manual Stretches and a massive pump afterwards. Finished up with 2x5 bathmate and 3x40 sets of Jelqs in the shower in the evening.
 
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Solid day again today. 2-hours Silistretching followed by 2x10 VSP pumping method at 7.5 Hg, good expansion. 1x5 SSJ's afterwards. Will try to get BM session in later tonight as well.
 
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Good training day today. 2x10 VSP Pumping with 2 sets of SSJ's. 2-hours silistretching and 2x5 Bathmate session tonight with 2x75 Jelqs between sets. The soreness is there for SURE. Bring on the growth!

Only a few more days to measurement day (21st), but I have already hit 1 goal. I officially outgrew my 2x9 tube and had to move up to a 2.25x10. I suspect based on this that I am somewhere around 5.75" in MEG. But we will see soon.
 
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This is such an important measurement and I am so looking forward to it. You’ve done some amazing experimentation and I hope it really turns out some incredible numbers
 
I had the day off today, and I am going to be super busy through the weekend and early next week traveling so I decided to knock out my measurement day TODAY!

Previous numbers:
BPEL: 8.25"
MEG: 5.5"

New Numbers:
BPEL: 8.4"
MEG: 5.75"

So just as I suspected MEG is up .25" in 30 days of solid training. I couldn't be happier with that. For me right now, it is all about the girth gains. I am also up about .15" in BPEL. It's just shy of 8.5", but anything over 8" at this point is just gravy for me. I am only really wanting more girth. I want to be stretching out my wife when we are having sex. I have not measured base girth, although I know a lot of guys use that as their standard, I only really care about the girth that is usable, so I will only be tracking Middle Erect Girth. The goal is 6.25" MEG, then once I get there to cement and reset for a run to 6.5". 8.5" x 6.5"... Anyone else going for it?

My EQ is definitely impacted by how hard I am training, so it took some work to get the measurement. I may need to allow for an extra rest day per week (guess I am not the only one @zerotohero33 ) so that my EQ stays strong. I think I am going to go to a schedule of 2 on 1 off - 3 on 1 off... to get enough rest to keep EQ up. Rest day will be active rest with a 1x5 pumping session at low pressure (for circulation) and Red Light Therapy EVERY DAY!

I will keep my routine of mixing both VCP and VSP pumping in 2x10, with silistretcher usage for a goal of 2-hours daily, Jelqs and SSJ's mixed in with my pumping sessions and bathmate 1x5 in the evenings...

Hard to believe I started years ago at 7"x5" and now I am 8.4"x5.75"... for some perspective, that's an increase of 28% in total volume. Got to train hard if you want it, so get out there and get after it.
 
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I had the day off today, and I am going to be super busy through the weekend and early next week traveling so I decided to knock out my measurement day TODAY!

Previous numbers:
BPEL: 8.25"
MEG: 5.5"

New Numbers:
BPEL: 8.4"
MEG: 5.75"

So just as I suspected MEG is up .25" in 30 days of solid training. I couldn't be happier with that. For me right now, it is all about the girth gains. I am also up about .15" in BPEL. It's just shy of 8.5", but anything over 8" at this point is just gravy for me. I am only really wanting more girth. I want to be stretching out my wife when we are having sex. I have not measured base girth, although I know a lot of guys use that as their standard, I only really care about the girth that is usable, so I will only be tracking Middle Erect Girth. The goal is 6.25" MEG, then once I get there to cement and reset for a run to 6.5". 8.5" x 6.5"... Anyone else going for it?

My EQ is definitely impacted by how hard I am training, so it took some work to get the measurement. I may need to allow for an extra rest day per week (guess I am not the only one @zerotohero33 ) so that my EQ stays strong. I think I am going to go to a schedule of 2 on 1 off - 3 on 1 off... to get enough rest to keep EQ up. Rest day will be active rest with a 1x5 pumping session at low pressure (for circulation) and Red Light Therapy EVERY DAY!

I will keep my routine of mixing both VCP and VSP pumping in 2x10, with silistretcher usage for a goal of 2-hours daily, Jelqs and SSJ's mixed in with my pumping sessions and bathmate 1x5 in the evenings...

Hard to believe I started years ago at 7"x5" and now I am 8.4"x5.75"... for some perspective, that's increase of 28% in total volume. Got to train hard if you want it, so get out there and get after it.

“Hard to believe I started years ago at 7"x5" and now I am 8.4"x5.75"
Congratulations and I am so proud of you!


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“Hard to believe I started years ago at 7"x5" and now I am 8.4"x5.75"
Congratulations and I am so proud of you!


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None of us would be doing it if it wasn't for you bro. I didn't even know this was possible until I found MOS.
 
Try wearing a cock ring while pumping and implementing SSJ just a few times between a 15-20 min session
This takes me from 5.25 to 6.1 or 6.25
Agreed, I am currently wearing a cock ring while I pump to help with expansion. I struggle with SSJs because I don't do adult entertainment at all, so it's hard to stay aroused enough to really do them for serious sets. I can only do 1 or 2 of them. I do 10 mins of pumping, then 2 SSJs, then 10 more and finish with as many as I can keep arousal for. Then I do 100 standard Jelqs.

I am going to focus on trying to get more time with bundled stretches to really loosen up the tunica to see if I can help with the expansion.
 
Agreed, I am currently wearing a cock ring while I pump to help with expansion. I struggle with SSJs because I don't do adult entertainment at all, so it's hard to stay aroused enough to really do them for serious sets. I can only do 1 or 2 of them. I do 10 mins of pumping, then 2 SSJs, then 10 more and finish with as many as I can keep arousal for. Then I do 100 standard Jelqs.

I am going to focus on trying to get more time with bundled stretches to really loosen up the tunica to see if I can help with the expansion.

BUNDLES !!!
 
What's the VCP Pumping method? Is it explained somewhere in your thread?
It is, but a quick summary is that VCP (Vascular Capacity Pumping) is the traditional pumping method that works to expand your capacity to hold blood. Simply put, it's stretching the penis to allow for blood to come in.

This is in contrast to VSP (Vascular Strength Pumping) which is my method to increase the ability for my vascular system in my penis to move blood into the penis and fill it to capacity.

So one method expands my capacity, and the other ensures I have the vascular strength to fill that capacity. I use both methods and alternate days of training one vs the other.
 
Yeah, I am trying to focus generally on just improving my overall pre-pump stretching. Really getting the tunica loosened up before I pump to help with expansion and decrease FR.

It is just so amazing that we have figured out that bundle stretching has been the missing link in expansion and lengthening of the tunica. I guess better late than never!
 
It is just so amazing that we have figured out that bundle stretching has been the missing link in expansion and lengthening of the tunica. I guess better late than never!
I need to add it back in for sure, I am pumping at too high an intensity to get the expansion I want and it is impacting my EQ. I need more time stretching before I pump. My EQ is wrecked right now. I also think I am going to start adding more rest days, I don't want my PE to impact my ability to actually have sex due to EQ issues. It absolutely did last night, couldn't even really get up to have sex. Even with Cialis help. So I am definitely over-training right now and need to allow for more recovery time.
 
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I need to add it back in for sure, I am pumping at too high an intensity to get the expansion I want and it is impacting my EQ. I need more time stretching before I pump. My EQ is wrecked right now. I also think I am going to start adding more rest days, I don't want my PE to impact my ability to actually have sex due to EQ issues. It absolutely did last night, couldn't even really get up to have sex. Even with Cialis help. So I am definitely over-training right now and need to allow for more recovery time.
I hate when overtraining screws up sex. Sometimes it's so hard to know where the line is. I've made that mistake more often than I'd like to admit.
 
I hate when overtraining screws up sex. Sometimes it's so hard to know where the line is. I've made that mistake more often than I'd like to admit.
Yeah me too. You figure I would have learned already by now, but it can be challenging when you are seeing gains and seeing expansion to know exactly where that line is. I just need to apply discipline to a routine and proper rest. It's just like the gym, you have to allow time to recover both for the tissue, the vascular system and the nervous system. I really need to figure out what the proper ratio of training to rest is.
 
The one bonus of overtraining is with the fatigue you have the ability to stretch so much easier and productive. But this is always a problem for men who are sexually active because you don’t want to be in a state of fatigue in that case
 
I took a few days off, I rested until I felt like my EQ was back to 100%. Not being able to have sex due to fatigue is a major issue for me that I can't have happening.

I started again with a less intense routine yesterday. 1x10 VCP Pumping @ 7.5Hg, manual stretches.

I will be adding time in the silistretcher today BEFORE pumping to try to help with expansion. But EQ is a priority for me right now that I don't want to compromise on.
 
1x12 Static Pumping today @ 200 mmHg / 8 Hg roughly. Trying to find the balance of fatigue/fluid retention vs. pressure and expansion. 12 minutes seems like a good time period, and I am messing with the pressure now to see where the line is.

Red Light Therapy for 20m today.

In the silistretcher now, will get probably a solid 3-4 hours.

I am not sure what's causing the fatigue more, the pumping or the stretching. Could be either one, but I am working to find that balance now as I am unwilling to be unable to perform in the bedroom due to my high intensity PE.
 
Whenever you can take advantage of that fatigue do so! There ain’t no better time to stretch then when you are in a state of fatigue
 
Been on track with training for the past week, just haven't been able to post much.

Sticking to 2x7 Pumping Right now. But today was 1x10 for time, plus 1x20 RLT.
 
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1x10 Static Pumping again today, 1x20 Red Light. Haven't had a chance to get stretching done yet, but hopefully after the gym I will get some time in. Running only 10 minutes at lower Hg I am not getting the same expansion, but it's a balance with wanting to be ready to have sex when I can.
 
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1x10 Static Pumping again today, 1x20 Red Light. Haven't had a chance to get stretching done yet, but hopefully after the gym I will get some time in. Running only 10 minutes at lower Hg I am not getting the same expansion, but it's a balance with wanting to be ready to have sex when I can.

How do things look Jake? Do you feel like you’re making some good growth with this routine?
 
How do things look Jake? Do you feel like you’re making some good growth with this routine?
It's hard to say right now honestly. I am not pushing as hard after the last time that I had fatigued my penis so bad that I couldn't have sex. Not getting the same level of expansion though with the routine being limited.
 
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It's hard to say right now honestly. I am not pushing as hard after the last time that I had fatigued my penis so bad that I couldn't have sex. Not getting the same level of expansion though with the routine being limited.

That fatigue can either be a great thing or a terrible thing. If you have an active sex life it’s not such a great thing. But if you do not have a sex life LOL like myself, you can take advantage of it and stretch for hours without any interference from the pelvic floor muscles.
 
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