Faster and Better Results for Penis Enlargement

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We talk about Penis Enlargement over and over. People say that that’s is the only way to get your penis bigger? Is that really true? Is Penis Enlargement exercises, hanging, pumping, and stretching and whatever else really the only way? I don’t think so. I think we all look past the most important thing.

Why did our penis grow during adolescence and puberty? We did nothing to increase the size, we did no hanging, or manuals, no jelqing. Why did our penis get bigger? It got bigger from our growth, from our hormones, our inner body, and our genetics. Why not figure out a way to get that back? Why not figure out how this can drastically help our gains on Penis Enlargement? Regardless of how big you are or what, you are bigger than you were when you were 10, so why not use this and figure something out.

Honestly we did not think about ligaments, or hanging, or the tunica or any of that BS when we were growing up. We just grew. Why? I don’t know. But why don’t we figure that out and we might just have the real way to get ourselves to have more gains than we ever though possible. I refuse to belive that Manuals and all this stuff is the only way to get bigger. That is absoluty incorrect and we can figure out a way to tap into what our bodies do and use that to our advantage.

What is the penis? Why is the penis so tough? The ligaments and tunica in our penis are one of the strongest fibers on our body. If they were not so tough, we would get bigger so much easier from manuals. Why not find out what our body does to make it grow and use that? Cause it did not use penis exercises. They were not made to get any bigger after you were done growing. Period.. Penis Enlargement is a alteration to our body. That is what it is. Our penis got bigger while we were in the growing stages because that is what it was supposed to do. If we can somehow trigger that effect again, we will truly have natural growth. Combine that with Penis Enlargement you are talking about big, fast results. Which is what we all want right? Do you want to Penis Enlargement for the next 5-10 years?

Honestly? Who here is going to Penis Enlargement for the rest of your life? Who wants to, would you rather do it now and just get it over? I don’t want to be doing this till I am 40 or 50. I have messed with my dick long enough. I mean are you really going to Penis Enlargement for the next 3-10 years? When will you stop? I mean I am 8X6, and I want 10X7 how long will it take? I know there has got to be a faster way our there than this. Lets all really think and research what makes the penis grow and what is involved from our body and use that to our advantage.

Updated September 27, 2011
Well guys great new, I am back on HGH
I will give you all the details.
This is what I am taking
Norditropin 5mg/1.5ml
2iu's a day before working out.
Just started today will keep you posted.

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I like what you have to say Supra. I think making our penis grow the way it did while we were going through puberty might be a little more complicated than we hope. How many different hormones did it take to make our penis respond to the rest of our body and grow? Who knows, I'm also a body builder and have read some things about certain hormones Growth Hormone for example and am wondering what effect that would have on the penis.
 
While it is a great idea I think we are very far from determining a way to isolate this kind of growth. During adolescence the body undergoes all sorts of changes, physical, hormonal, and mental. I know how growth in general works, yes growth hormones are used throughout the body to make you grow and yes it is possible to take growth hormones to make you grow taller ( I know someone) though it is not necesarily safe and it may have some future sideffects.

The problem is that we have no idea how to isolate penis growth first of all, and that growth hormones can/should only be taken during adolescence. If taken later, it may totally throw your body out of sync and lead to terrible consequences because the body is not supposed to be growing anymore.

In the future (200 yrs) im sure people will know to got enlarge the penis with alternate methods, but probably not anytime soon (though you never know). For now Penis Enlargement seems to be the best route.

Mrp
 
Pro-hormones would raise test levels, also a very anabolic diet would help. And you can't gain height from pills, if he did it when he was 22 plus it's bullshit because his growth plates had fused, and if it was before then he had a growth spurt, it is more likely to encounter inhibition from altering test levels rather than growth (height wise).
 
you can`t have puberty once again.... it has served its purpose and it`s not coming back
as for hormones while you are in puberty.. that`s a sure way to stop growth
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and the growth hormone has nothing to do with penile development... testosterone is the hormone that is responsible for our primary and secondary sexual.... can`t find the word sorry
 
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Scottie_X said:
Pro-hormones would raise test levels, also a very anabolic diet would help. And you can't gain height from pills, if he did it when he was 22 plus it's bullshit because his growth plates had fused, and if it was before then he had a growth spurt, it is more likely to encounter inhibition from altering test levels rather than growth (height wise).
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I agree that being in a state of anabolism would surely help penile growth. I'm not so sure about what you are saying for increasing height. I've read stories of bodybuilders who got fucked up with to much growth hormone, and actualy started growing again. Also somewhat unrelated but I know that they stretch the bones in china now, to add 10-12 centimeters to womens legs.

Also I met an indonesian guy at the gym who was 6'5. He said he gained more then 7 inches in height from a secret stretching program when he was 22. This guy was insane muscular to, I'm straight, but he was one of the most handsome built men I've ever seen.

We thought pe wasn't possible from what the mainstream told us. Maybe height increasing is possible? Another guy I know said that he was 5'1 when he was 26. After three years of stretching he made 5'7. I knew him for 1.5 years and the last time I saw him he was about 5'9 or 5'10.

Let me add I agree with the poster that said technology will allow us to grow in other ways to. Like changing your dna so that your body thinks it should be still growing your penis. And keeping that in place until you reach your desired size. Or hormone injections, which frankly I think viagra may do just that over time.

I plan to get generic viagra and use it as part of my growth in pe. I believe that it might simulate the same effects of priapism megalophallus. We see this megalophallus in sicle cell anemia people, that is why many blacks have such enormous cocks.
 
Supra: You've obviously been around Penis Enlargement for a while (5 years is it?). Are you saying that you've missed all the discussion that's been going on about the possibility of hormonal manipulation and penile growth? I'm sure a search here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] would dig up quite a few threads and the same would be true for most other forums.

Scottie_X and randolf: If anabolism would indeed make a measurable difference in penile growth (when coupled with Penis Enlargement of course) then [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]penis enlargement pills[/words] would work. The ingredients in most of these pills (assuming they contain what they claim and most still do) boost your body's production of testosterone and increases blood flow. There is a danger to this though as the body is seriously adept at maintaining a status quo. If you try these for any longer period of time you might supress the natural, i.e. non-assisted, endogenous production of testosterone which would leave you in a void after the "treatment" was over.

I would suggest that the increased testosterone levels would lead to a higher sex drive and the increased blood flow would give better erections which might have an indirect effect on the growth possible from manual Penis Enlargement. However, there is no connection between an increase in the anabolic drive and the increase in penile tissue.

This is really just a dangerous turn down a dark alley. Much like bodybuilding or gaining strength, Penis Enlargement takes time. There might be shortcuts but in the end the benefits are probably overshadowed by side effects. (I've my doubts about the recent craze over the ring of power. I've voiced my concerns about keeping a weak magnetic field near your testicles in another forum but have yet to get a reply.) Hyperemiation seems to be virtually void of side-effects and actually has some decent scientific evidence to back it up.
 
I have read somewhere where Penis Enlargement'ers have been rubbing an andro hormone Gel on their penises to help with growth. This doesn't sound very safe to me. ANyone know anything about androgels?
 
Im have not missed out, I just was thinking about it again, becasue there realyl was no conclusion to it.
 
waseechee said:
I have read somewhere where Penis Enlargement'ers have been rubbing an andro hormone Gel on their penises to help with growth. This doesn't sound very safe to me. ANyone know anything about androgels?
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I tried that. I bout some testosterone cream from a place, It never got anywere. And it was 200/mg cream
 
The only thing I'd be worried about with the testosterone supps would be like what Ebon00 said where when you stopped taking the supps how would your testicles react, would they want to work correctly again? or would you have put yourself in another predicament
 
Yes they do, I had that problem with Steriods. The Ring of Power fixed that for me. I am not going to experiment with testosterone anymore, I get enough from my Ring, I am going to check out, mystatin, IGF-1LR3 and HGH
 
randolf said:
I believe that it might simulate the same effects of priapism megalophallus. We see this megalophallus in sicle cell anemia people, that is why many blacks have such enormous cocks.
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Huh? Please elaborate...

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For those of you talking about people stretching and getting taller check out this link:

http://www.geocities.com/gottogrow/

It's has stretching routines and stuff. Kind of like Penis Enlargement but for height. I reckon people could get an inch or two more height if they don't sit up straight and stuff but it looks like a lot of hard work and a lot of stretching.

The site often gets overloaded because it is shitty geocities. Quite interesting though.
 
randolf said:
I agree that being in a state of anabolism would surely help penile growth. I'm not so sure about what you are saying for increasing height. I've read stories of bodybuilders who got fucked up with to much growth hormone, and actualy started growing again. Also somewhat unrelated but I know that they stretch the bones in china now, to add 10-12 centimeters to womens legs.

Also I met an indonesian guy at the gym who was 6'5. He said he gained more then 7 inches in height from a secret stretching program when he was 22. This guy was insane muscular to, I'm straight, but he was one of the most handsome built men I've ever seen.

We thought pe wasn't possible from what the mainstream told us. Maybe height increasing is possible? Another guy I know said that he was 5'1 when he was 26. After three years of stretching he made 5'7. I knew him for 1.5 years and the last time I saw him he was about 5'9 or 5'10.

Let me add I agree with the poster that said technology will allow us to grow in other ways to. Like changing your dna so that your body thinks it should be still growing your penis. And keeping that in place until you reach your desired size. Or hormone injections, which frankly I think viagra may do just that over time.

I plan to get generic viagra and use it as part of my growth in pe. I believe that it might simulate the same effects of priapism megalophallus. We see this megalophallus in sicle cell anemia people, that is why many blacks have such enormous cocks.
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Can you please ask the Indonesian guy the secret stretching method?
thanks
 
iwantgirth said:
Can you please ask the Indonesian guy the secret stretching method?
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Hmm that is a good idea iwantgirth I hadn't thought of that. I thought Hydromaxm maybe heightening does work, I'll have to read about it online. This was 2 years ago and I never did damn. I will ask him next time hes at the gym. And I will do some more reading myself on it.

Of course for my working out I mainly learned by trial and error and reading heh. I did take in the odd thing I overheard from the big boys though.
 
ebon00 said:
Scottie_X and randolf: If anabolism would indeed make a measurable difference in penile growth (when coupled with Penis Enlargement of course) then [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]penis enlargement pills[/words] would work. The ingredients in most of these pills (assuming they contain what they claim and most still do) boost your body's production of testosterone and increases blood flow. There is a danger to this though as the body is seriously adept at maintaining a status quo. If you try these for any longer period of time you might supress the natural, i.e. non-assisted, endogenous production of testosterone which would leave you in a void after the "treatment" was over.

I would suggest that the increased testosterone levels would lead to a higher sex drive and the increased blood flow would give better erections which might have an indirect effect on the growth possible from manual Penis Enlargement. However, there is no connection between an increase in the anabolic drive and the increase in penile tissue.

This is really just a dangerous turn down a dark alley. Much like bodybuilding or gaining strength, Penis Enlargement takes time. There might be shortcuts but in the end the benefits are probably overshadowed by side effects. (I've my doubts about the recent craze over the ring of power. I've voiced my concerns about keeping a weak magnetic field near your testicles in another forum but have yet to get a reply.) Hyperemiation seems to be virtually void of side-effects and actually has some decent scientific evidence to back it up.
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Good thinking on this Ebon. You are right that the body likes a balance. At the same time I've seen 350 pound steroid monsters at gyms before, so they are not a zero net gain. You are dead on with the thought that the higher sex drive and increased blood flow, would give a better erection and therefore indirectly help pe.

I disagree with an anabolic state having no effect. Let me say the reverse, someone in catabolism, for example someone who is sick at the time. They can't expect gains while they are sick. In fact if they break down the penile tissue while sick it won't recover until after they are out of catabolism.

I do not know what Hyperemiation is, can you elaborate on it?
 
Supra said:
Yes they do, I had that problem with Steriods. The Ring of Power fixed that for me. I am not going to experiment with testosterone anymore, I get enough from my Ring, I am going to check out, mystatin, IGF-1LR3 and HGH
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One report I read said that of the top 20 bodybuilders in 1998, 13 had genetic problems with their myostatin. It tells the body to quit adding muscles and tissue when rebuilding takes place. If its broken or actualy the more accurate description, is not functioning at full capacity because of genetic problems, this is a huge help in muscle growth.
 
Provider said:
For those of you talking about people stretching and getting taller check out this link:

http://www.geocities.com/gottogrow/

It's has stretching routines and stuff. Kind of like Penis Enlargement but for height. I reckon people could get an inch or two more height if they don't sit up straight and stuff but it looks like a lot of hard work and a lot of stretching.

The site often gets overloaded because it is shitty geocities. Quite interesting though.
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Thank you for the link.. stupid geocities down at the moment of course though. What time does geocities reopen sites? I mean is it based on a 24 hour period always starting at grenwich mean time or is it something else?
 
Dario said:
Huh? Please elaborate...

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Glad you asked I was trying to keep a discussion on it alive at thunders. But most weren't to interested. Let me give you some links, there is very little available on it.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...cmd=Retrieve&list_uids=10962334&dopt=Citation

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=859210&dopt=Abstract


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Tricky would be the management of priapisms in an attempt to get a megalophallus!

Read this too:

1: J Natl Med Assoc. 1993 Jun;85(6):473-4. Related Articles, Links


An unusual case of priapism.

Jam M, Datta NS, Askari A.

Department of Surgery, King-Drew Medical Center, Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science, Los Angeles, CA 90059.

A case of sickle cell disease with 63 documented episodes of priapism that were managed medically is presented. The case is very unusual because of the fact that despite so many episodes of priapism, he did not lose sexual potency. On the contrary, over a period of time, his penis hypertrophied. To the best of our knowledge, this is the first such case with so many episodes of priapism reported in the English literature. We present a hypothesis for such unusual occurrence.

PMID: 8366540 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.thundersplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25345&highlight=megalophallus

A guy at thundersplace named magnumforce brought these up. I have been wondering if you could simulate the sickle cell anemia side effect of to many erections for to long with viagra to speed up growth. You can definately grow without this, this would just be a way to massively speed it up, and possibly to go to higher levels then you thought possible.


One reason I brought it up is that I need help from people searching and finding out about this, and ways we could take advantage of it. So far in my searching I have been looking for theories on why sickle cell anemia causes priapisms, the best guess is the thickness of the blood makes much get sort of stuck in the penis. So overtime having the penis expanded often and often very very expanded builds size, as the body hypertrophies the penis in response.
 
Megalophallus as a sequela of priapism in sickle cell anemia: use of blood oxygen level-dependent magnetic resonance imaging.

Kassim AA, Umans H, Nagel RL, Fabry ME.

Department of Medicine (Division of Hematology), Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Montefiore Medical Center, Bronx, New York 10461, USA.

Priapism is a common complication of sickle cell anemia. We report a little known sequela of priapism: painless megalophallus, with significant penile enlargement. The patient had had an intense episode of priapism 9 years previously and his penis remained enlarged. Blood oxygen level-dependent magnetic resonance imaging revealed enlarged, hypoxic corpora cavernosa. Megalophallus probably resulted from permanent loss of elasticity of the tunica albuginea due to severe engorgement during the episode of priapism. This sequela needs to be recognized by physicians because no intervention is necessary and sexual function seems to remain intact.


Loads of medical reports out there!!

Girthius
 
Well done randolf! I didn't see your post, before I posted!! So how do we thicken up the blood cells, what is the key to this, without getting sickle cell?

Girthius
 
what do you guys think about the theory that cold water is better after jelqing and girth workouts.
"Penis enlargement programs rely upon this innate ability of muscle fibers to stretch and grow to accommodate exercise, along with the tendons and ligaments. However, the penis is not made up of muscle tissue, but it is affected by the ligaments attaching it to the pubic bone. In addition, the erectile tissue, corpora cavernosa, is a spongy tissue containing distensible blood spaces, which increases in size when blood is pumped into it (Martini, 1998)."
taking from that theory and the fact that like when you lift you pump more blood to the area which makes it expand, but heat afterwards causes bleeding in the microtears and delays healing. ive read that constricting blood vessels with cold allow for more nutrients and oxyegen to go to the affected area and speeds healing in muscle, tendons, and tissue.
i know the penis isnt a muscle and ive worded my thoughts really badly, but id like to hear what you guys think. i use cold after workouts and i love it b/c i recover a lot quicker and my erections are better and seem to expand to fill the new space better more naturally. i dont know id want to hear what you guys have to say, i wish i could find all the stuff i read and quote it, but oh well.
 
girthius said:
Well done randolf! I didn't see your post, before I posted!! So how do we thicken up the blood cells, what is the key to this, without getting sickle cell?

Girthius
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Thanks:). I did not think of trying to thicken up the blood cells, but there are ways of doing that I'm sure, and not dangerously. Another problem I've been reading is that the doctors describing this side effect, just say its an unknown reason why these priapisms, or in many cases, just near priapisms are happening.

The thickening of blood cells I inferred off another page that I will have to look for again. It didn't really have much more information then that on that particular site though.

I'm thinking a lot of these man made vasolidators, could effectively do the same thing. I know with vasolidators if you take to much you run the risk of a priapism. Or if you mix them with other things. For the men that get these, its a super hardon that won't go down. It starts to 'ache', and if it doesn't go down naturally they have to go to a urologist within about 24 hours or permanent problems could happen.

I'm thinking what if you slowly played around with different vasolidators, and got up to where you would have a super hard on for a fair while like 1-2 hours. I believe that over time doing this daily would grow your penis. You could even do this twice or three times a day. Would have to play around and see what your body could take.

Combined with expanding tissue exercises, and ligament stretching, I think that you would be best to take it after you work out. Then have a super hardon with the expanded tissues, for like an hour or two. I have no money at the moment so I'm confined to normal exercises. Which are showing good results for me. But when I get money I am thinking of getting some generic vasilodaters and using them after the workout.
 
blue1214198203 said:
what do you guys think about the theory that cold water is better after jelqing and girth workouts.
"Penis enlargement programs rely upon this innate ability of muscle fibers to stretch and grow to accommodate exercise, along with the tendons and ligaments. However, the penis is not made up of muscle tissue, but it is affected by the ligaments attaching it to the pubic bone. In addition, the erectile tissue, corpora cavernosa, is a spongy tissue containing distensible blood spaces, which increases in size when blood is pumped into it (Martini, 1998)."
taking from that theory and the fact that like when you lift you pump more blood to the area which makes it expand, but heat afterwards causes bleeding in the microtears and delays healing. ive read that constricting blood vessels with cold allow for more nutrients and oxyegen to go to the affected area and speeds healing in muscle, tendons, and tissue.
i know the penis isnt a muscle and ive worded my thoughts really badly, but id like to hear what you guys think. i use cold after workouts and i love it b/c i recover a lot quicker and my erections are better and seem to expand to fill the new space better more naturally. i dont know id want to hear what you guys have to say, i wish i could find all the stuff i read and quote it, but oh well.
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I don't warm up with wraps or cool down either, atm. But notice the wording 'warm' up, and 'cool' down. I know my own body pretty well and I get the feeling that after a workout if my penis can sort of compact up and be cool, that I would see better growth by far then if I kept it warm and pumped. There was a guy on redzulu's forum I read a few months ago who gained .75 girth in a relatively short amount of time. He was using cold wraps to cool down with.

That was a big find if its true about the microtears not healing as well with heat on them after the exercising is over. When you get a chance can you get a source on that? I will look to try and find one as well later tonight. Actualy I just did a pe workout that ended about 10 minutes ago, I think I'm going to do a 5 minute cold wrap now, to see how it 'feels'.
 
Guys think about it. If taking hormones were all thats needed then pro bodybuilders would have dicks that would scrape the ground. All the IGF-1, HGH and R-IGF2 plus testosterone doesn't cause penile growth. Bodybuilders do get growth in their hands and feet and faces (acro-megaly). Ask someone who has taken real growth and the pains that go along with it are really ouchy. When we go through puberty the whole body is growing not just one thing. To go through a second puberty would be the way to get what your talking about. And maybe this has happened to some individuals but, chemical induced for an adult would be almost if not totally impossible. As for the androgels, there have been stories of infants or toddlers (pre-pubes) who have inadvertantly been exposed to the hormones and have seen side effects of penile growth but, for us that is probably not gonna happen. And to shut down my Leydig cells is not very appealing. I'm not saying its NOT possible, but manual stretching has been proven to work. And don't forget most adults are growing up into their twenties, thats a lot of time for growth. We are trying to recreate all that time in a very short period even though a couple of years it might take, we cannot compete with the 18-20 years of growth before. Just my thoughts on this
 
So, are we implying that cold wraps or perhaps a cup of ice water may be a good idea for post girth work??

I also wonder if taking say....oh, 200mg of Viagra might induce a temporary state of "super erection" mimicking Priapism? I know it's dangerous to mess around with this type of stuff....but, if done so in a very careful and controlled manner....why not? I've taken 100mg of Viagra before ....maybe ya could experiment say, over a week's time. Day one, you take 100mg of Viagra, day two you take 125mg, and so on. Upping the once a day dose of Viagra by 25mg until you found the "magic number" so to speak. This would all depend on how you respond individually to Viagra. Hmm......and with generic Viagra being equally as effective and yet, so much cheaper....it would be interesting.
 
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Just Say something here, IGF-1 is Insulin Like Growth Factor. This is Different to HGH Human Growth Hormone. If anything you will want to be looking at HGH not IGF. IGF can be inhibited with the ZMA supplement, many articles and studies on this.
 
Im not saying shut IGF-1 out totally, if you want it go buy ZMA, but you really want to get your hands on HGH if you wanna see growth.
 
HGH, works best with a synergist. It alone and the amount of IU's it would take is incredible. The cheapest kit of real HGH is gonna run you about $1000
a month. Don't forget to get it from a DR. because most guys will fuck you with HCG. It looks the same but at 1/100th the price. It works great with test. And the shutting down of your own testosterone is lessened but, Look at all the people taking it. No mega-penises. Not trying to be negative, I just work with a lot a national caliber BB's and athletes and it doesn't work that way. The theory isn't bad, but in application it doesn't happen.
 
And another thing, People have tried to .......sight inject with HGH in their penises just like they do with winstrol or test propionate, to inflame the localized tissue into growing. All they do is end up with sore dicks.........lol
But its true, doesn't work like that
 
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So, are we implying that cold wraps or perhaps a cup of ice water may be a good idea for post girth work??
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yeah, see like i know that when you lift and other workouts extra blood get flushed into that area which makes it swell causing microtears and what not for growth.
then, after workouts they say that even though heat brings more nutrients and oxyegen to the area through vascularization, right after workouts it really only causes these microtears to bleed (bad swelling) and other complications that slow the healing process in tissues.
so, cold water after a workout provides quicker recovery, as it causes blood to clot at the micro tears in muscle and applying cold to traumatized tissue will reduce spasms and increase local blood flow, levels of oxygen and metabolism and the constriction of the blood vessels gets rid of metabolic wastes generated by training.
considering ive pieced this all together from reading on how to treat injuries and recover after workouts, i think this should be able to be applied to the penis as well since it is spongy tissue. i like it and i notice a huge difference from doing nothing or applying heat.
also i was wondering in connection with other workouts do you think a 1 day on 1 day off, 5 on 2 off, or 3 days a week technique (similar to lifting) is better for gains? i mean since growth comes from healing and actual work which is only supposed to stimulate growth.
ive read that when you lift you should finish with one rep left in you b/c if you overwork it just puts stress on the central nervous system and makes recovery longer.
my routine right now is 200 jelqs a day with 3 (im considering five) min cold shower on the unit afterwards. im starting to wonder if i should only every other day or maybe even 3 days a week to gain. i dont know, im open for discussion.
couple things that are interesting is that when you workout your testosterone peaks 30 min in and bottoms out 60 min in after that another element (i forgot the name) is released that eats at muscle tissue, and sleeping after working out is good b/c thats when anabolic agents are most present in the body.
 
shojii said:
But, you need the anabolism of IGF-1 to make the HGH that much more effective
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No HGH is released into the blood stream, once it goes to the liver, it is changed to IGF-1. IGF-1 is what is responsible for growth in the body, HGH just triggers it
 
stillwantmore said:
So, are we implying that cold wraps or perhaps a cup of ice water may be a good idea for post girth work??

I also wonder if taking say....oh, 200mg of Viagra might induce a temporary state of "super erection" mimicking Priapism? I know it's dangerous to mess around with this type of stuff....but, if done so in a very careful and controlled manner....why not? I've taken 100mg of Viagra before ....maybe ya could experiment say, over a week's time. Day one, you take 100mg of Viagra, day two you take 125mg, and so on. Upping the once a day dose of Viagra by 25mg until you found the "magic number" so to speak. This would all depend on how you respond individually to Viagra. Hmm......and with generic Viagra being equally as effective and yet, so much cheaper....it would be interesting.
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Exactly. You'd slowly work up over a period of weeks or even a month. If you went up to fast you might run the risk of having not only what you had taken today, but what you took yesterday. Although having said that I don't know how quickly they exit your bloodstream, and in reality they probably have different times that they last, depending on the drug.

I agree also its about how you would respond. So you'd have to start really low, which I'm sure doctors recommend anyway. I would still workout doing this but in honesty I'd bet you'd see results over time even with no working out. With steroids you dont' even have to go to the gym. Many do because they are addicted but you'd still see major results with just the roids and eating when you got hungry, (which would be a lot).
 
IGF-1 is the master hormone in your body, by increasing this, it increses every other hormone as well. In doing so, I think I can increase my penis growth.
 
AncientChina said:
ebon00, what do you think of the ROP, or if there could be any testosterone supply problems when stopping the use of the ROP? Just out of curiousity.
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Not sure if there could be a shutdown as there is when you add testosterone (or derivatives) into your body, but most testosterone boosters tend to come with a slight supression in post-supplement hormonal levels until the body catches up to the fact that it has to do all the work itself. Like I said, I'm much more concerned with having a weak magnetic field near your genitals.

randolf said:
At the same time I've seen 350 pound steroid monsters at gyms before, so they are not a zero net gain.
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No they're not but the addition of anabolics to the (relative) status quo environment of the human body does cause a shutdown in endogenous testosterone. The reason there are 350 lbs monsters walking around is because they inject (or swallow) testosterone derivatives/precursors that amounts to more than the body would produce itself.

randolf said:
I do not know what Hyperemiation is, can you elaborate on it?
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Simply means forcing more blood into a tissue than it usually handles. The pump in bodybuilding is hyperemiation for example. So is trapping in Penis Enlargement and penis pumps. And of course, your example of priapism is the ultimate hyperemiation.

Supra said:
I am going to check out, mystatin, IGF-1LR3 and HGH
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If you mean myostatin then that involves only muscle fiber tissue and would have little, if any, effect on penile tissue (since the muscle tissue there isn't fibrous in the way that skeletal muscle is). Remember, precious little of the penis is actually muscle tissue; it's the collagenous tissue and the sponge-like CC that's interesting from an enlargement standpoint.

randolf said:
I'm thinking a lot of these man made vasolidators, could effectively do the same thing. I know with vasolidators if you take to much you run the risk of a priapism.
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Since vasolidators simply expand the capillaries to allow for more flow of blood they alone won't cause a similar effect as priapism; for that you also need something to trap the blood in the penis and maintain an erection. Maintaining the erection could of course be handled manually but that would get tiresome real fast. Viagra, or generic/herbal/whatever equivalents, might help but taking it with vasolidators doesn't sound like a good idea. Neither does the increasing the dosage plan. Even though Viagra is supposedly site-specific there have been reported side effects and as far as I know there has been no test of long-term toxicity when it comes to large dosages. But I like the idea of mimicking priapism. Doing it manually after a good girth session while using a pliable penis ring might do the trick.

blue1214198203 said:
couple things that are interesting is that when you workout your testosterone peaks 30 min in and bottoms out 60 min in after that another element (i forgot the name) is released that eats at muscle tissue, and sleeping after working out is good b/c thats when anabolic agents are most present in the body.
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The other element is called cortisol. Contrary to popular opinion it's not advisable to sleep after a workout. A Penis Enlargement workout maybe, but not a weight workout. After the workout you need to replenish the body's stores of glycogen to ward of catabolism. Otherwise cortisol runs rampant. Now, if you go to sleep after trying to make use of the anabolic window of opportunity (nutrient uptake is much improved for about 60-90 min following a workout) you lose the benefits because sleep lowers your metabolic rate so that the body can't use the nutrients you've ingested. So the gain in anabolic agents due to sleep is cancelled out by the fact that cortisol gets a free field of play.
 
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