I just don't feel anything so I am doing the V-SES at the moment, 720° bundled, normal stretches and the rotation stretches, wearing an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] all day, jelquing with low erection and do some lazy ass stretches. takes me 100 minutes a day. if that doesn't work .... I don't know what to do
 
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doublelongdaddy;353152 said:
AFter you have the skin up you should be stretching down and against the erection.

that just doesn't feel like any more than a skin stretch to me. maybe i'll keep tryin and see what it does
 
dmoney101;353284 said:
that just doesn't feel like any more than a skin stretch to me. maybe i'll keep tryin and see what it does

Are you putting resistance against the erection while exercising?
 
doublelongdaddy;353358 said:
Are you putting resistance against the erection while exercising?

here's what i'm doing
get hard
pull skin as far up as it goes
push dick downwards

do i need to do something else? grab from the base and pull down?
 
dmoney101;353699 said:
here's what i'm doing
get hard
pull skin as far up as it goes
push dick downwards

do i need to do something else? grab from the base and pull down?

I just get in the same position and stretch the penis downward, against the erection.
 
DLD, Do you mean to push downward towards the floor? The way what you have written reads is you are pushing down into the erection, as in back towards the base. What I've been doing is sliding the skin up toward the base and then pushing down, similar to the old kegel/lig resistance exercise, while the other hand actually twists a bit at the base.
 
millionman;353765 said:
DLD, Do you mean to push downward towards the floor? The way what you have written reads is you are pushing down into the erection, as in back towards the base. What I've been doing is sliding the skin up toward the base and then pushing down, similar to the old kegel/lig resistance exercise, while the other hand actually twists a bit at the base.

Yes down towards the floor but variations can be used to intensify the exercise.
 
doublelongdaddy;353736 said:
I just get in the same position and stretch the penis downward, against the erection.

ok so basically it's erect stretches with the skin pulled out. how erect should i get? i would imagine the harder the better
 
dmoney101;353869 said:
ok so basically it's erect stretches with the skin pulled out. how erect should i get? i would imagine the harder the better

You are correct, the harder the better. When the penis is fully erect the ligaments are stretched to their natural, longest length...this is where you want to be while doing this exercise. At 100% anything beyond it would be a gain.
 
longrodten;353975 said:
movn,

I believe the skin stretch is due to if you do reveal inner penis, your going to need new skin for it to be useable.

Well said.
 
jjeramia;354147 said:
I tried this clamped(still dont know if im doing it right though) and its really alot more intense!

The CLAMP always makes it's way into my exercises:)
 
dlawrenceb;354488 said:
will this help to make the penis bigger?
should i do this everyday if sore or not?

It is supposed to make the penis bigger, yes:) It is a rather new exercise so users trying it out will be the real testimony to it's effectiveness.
 
Just to make sure I doing this right, I 100% hard, then pull as much skin as possible up and hold it. THen I make a ok grip around the base an milk it up then loosen it to bring the grip back down to base and repeat? I have a problem with the fact that I can't get all the way down to the base since I'm pulling all my extra skin up my balls and loose skin kind of get in the way....
 
hey double d. is it tru r not?

From WebMD's Expert Louanne Cole Weston:

Jelqers may believe that the technique works, but they are mistaken about how. You may hear that by pushing blood into the erectile tissue of the penis, you can expand the chambers -- the corpora cavernosa -- so they eventually hold more blood, resulting in bigger erections. You may also hear that jelqing exercises the smooth muscle of the penis, making it bigger and stronger.

"I think that's all bogus," says Tom Lue, MD, professor of urology at the University of California, San Francisco. He says that only swelling, caused by bleeding under the skin, could explain the increases in penis size men like Thomas experience. This result would not be permanent, hence the need to follow a rigorous jelqing regimen indefinitely. The idea that the smooth muscle of the penis can be exercised , like the biceps, is a myth. "Smooth muscle doesn't respond that way," Lue says. In fact, stretching it can be harmful. For example, the bladder is smooth muscle. According to Lue, if you hold in urine so that the bladder expands too much, the tissue weakens. What's more, Lue says, all the stretching, pulling, and squeezing might cause scar tissue to form in the penis, which could hinder a man's ability to get an erection.

But Thomas maintains that apart from a little soreness, he hasn't injured his penis by jelqing, and he says his erections last longer than they did before. "Anatomically and physiologically this is just wishful thinking," urologist Ira Sharlip, president of the Sexual Medicine Society of North America, writes in an email. "It's all baloney until a real study with objective before and after measurements, verified by an independent source [since you can't do a placebo comparison], proves that it works."

and Dr. Marks agrees.
Source(s):
http://boards.weBathmated.com/webx?THDX@@.59ab618c!thdchild=.59ab618c Dr. Weston

http://blogs.weBathmated.com/mens-health-office/2005/11/penis-enlargement_29.html
Dr. Sheldon Marks
 
dlawrenceb;354579 said:
hey double d. is it tru r not?

From WebMD's Expert Louanne Cole Weston:

Jelqers may believe that the technique works, but they are mistaken about how. You may hear that by pushing blood into the erectile tissue of the penis, you can expand the chambers -- the corpora cavernosa -- so they eventually hold more blood, resulting in bigger erections. You may also hear that jelqing exercises the smooth muscle of the penis, making it bigger and stronger.

"I think that's all bogus," says Tom Lue, MD, professor of urology at the University of California, San Francisco. He says that only swelling, caused by bleeding under the skin, could explain the increases in penis size men like Thomas experience. This result would not be permanent, hence the need to follow a rigorous jelqing regimen indefinitely. The idea that the smooth muscle of the penis can be exercised , like the biceps, is a myth. "Smooth muscle doesn't respond that way," Lue says. In fact, stretching it can be harmful. For example, the bladder is smooth muscle. According to Lue, if you hold in urine so that the bladder expands too much, the tissue weakens. What's more, Lue says, all the stretching, pulling, and squeezing might cause scar tissue to form in the penis, which could hinder a man's ability to get an erection.

But Thomas maintains that apart from a little soreness, he hasn't injured his penis by jelqing, and he says his erections last longer than they did before. "Anatomically and physiologically this is just wishful thinking," urologist Ira Sharlip, president of the Sexual Medicine Society of North America, writes in an email. "It's all baloney until a real study with objective before and after measurements, verified by an independent source [since you can't do a placebo comparison], proves that it works."

and Dr. Marks agrees.
Source(s):
http://boards.weBathmated.com/webx?THDX@@.59ab618c!thdchild=.59ab618c Dr. Weston

http://blogs.weBathmated.com/mens-health-office/2005/11/penis-enlargement_29.html
Dr. Sheldon Marks

Fuck Sheldon Marks and fuck weBathmated, they have a hidden agenda and give poor advice...that is my comment:)
 
I"ve been Penis Enlargement-ing now for 4 plus years, my erections are stronger, I am measurably bigger, (my wife said the other day after sex that while spent my penis looked like a big sausage hanging there) and I last longer in bed.
I am more aware of my sexuality and my "point of no return" than before I exercised. This is a form of usable proof at least it would be acceptable in a court of law if I were called upon to testify. And of course my wife would be a witness lol.

The fact that a "study" must be done before the claims are fact or true is a form of logical fallacy that seems to point to the need for a cogent appeal to authority before the claims are worthwhile.

True scientists don't sit on their butts and say, 'It's not true until a study proves it so"
True scientists say, "These are claims made from more than one source. We need to investigate it and do a study to see if it's true."
 
Is anyone else having an issue gripping the extreme base? Very thick down there and tough to get a good"ok" grip. Any suggestions? thanks.
 
grinder1;421170 said:
Is anyone else having an issue gripping the extreme base? Very thick down there and tough to get a good"ok" grip. Any suggestions? thanks.

Grab a LengthMaster, you can clamp down at base and grip the two [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] arms and stretch to your hearts content.
 
wow. intense stuff right there. guess it wont fit into my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] yet...
but i'll give it a try. looks good
 
REDZULU2003;421261 said:
Tried this exercise and wasn't to my liking with the grip at the base not feeling right.

I can't get em right all the time:)
 
I would go anywhere from 15 minutes to 30 minutes. I never really count reps, I more go for time.
 
2jzSc;421524 said:
wow so you hold that stretch for 30 min straight?

No, my total time working is 30 minutes. Each set could last anywhere from 30 seconds to 2 minutes, depending on hand strength, once 30 minutes is up I am done.
 
apolo;421479 said:
I-ll try this one tonight...

Said and done..... I still haven-t got it quite right... I started with my Mandingo V Streches then I tried the DLJ.... The firsts I felt a lot of strech specially in the skin, a few more tries and I felt more strech in the ligs..... I decided to do my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] workout with baby oil.At the end I tried a small variation.... I jelqued the skin, grab it and then did the ok at the base but moved a litlle like in th [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]. Then I started to pull and I felt a big pull inside........ Tonite will try again. It-s promissing. So my DLJ is actually a fusion between DLJ and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]......
 
apolo;421639 said:
Said and done..... I still haven-t got it quite right... I started with my Mandingo V Streches then I tried the DLJ.... The firsts I felt a lot of strech specially in the skin, a few more tries and I felt more strech in the ligs..... I decided to do my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] workout with baby oil.At the end I tried a small variation.... I jelqued the skin, grab it and then did the ok at the base but moved a litlle like in th [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]. Then I started to pull and I felt a big pull inside........ Tonite will try again. It-s promissing. So my DLJ is actually a fusion between DLJ and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]......

Sounds like a plan! Keep me up on what happen s, very interested in this.
 
doublelongdaddy;421686 said:
Sounds like a plan! Keep me up on what happen s, very interested in this.


I-ve done it again and for me the best is to make that slight variation... I do the DLJ all the way but instead of grabing at the base and pull I grab it just about 0.5 inches from the base and then pull. It rocks.
 
DLD this is a lot like what I was doing with my lig stretches. The only difference is that I would use a lower grip.

Try an underhanded grip so your thumb and fingers make a U then grab your shaft behind your balls and bring your hand out so your balls are hanging over your hand.

I would also put my grip below and inside my ligs if this makes sense. It means your thumb and forefinger come together but can't touch because the skin between your ligs and shaft are pinched between them.

With this deeper grip you get more pull on the ligs. I used to walk around with the most painful ligs after these, but I always had a self satisfied smirk to go with it. he he

I am going to have to add the upper hand grip you came up with. I expect I will notice good results.

Thanks for the info DLD.
 
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Thanks for trying! I love when these old exercises pop up:)
 
doublelongdaddy;421381 said:
I can't get em right all the time:)

I think you definitely did get this right D! It's just the grip that's frustrating. When I pull all the skin towards the head, you're left with a handful of thick base, balls, pubes etc. (even if you shave) and it's just tough with a regular ok or a reverse to get at those ligs without slipping down the shaft. It's frustrating because for the brief time that I can get a good grip, the stretch is unreal. Wish we could come up with a better grip method for this.
 
grinder1;422149 said:
I think you definitely did get this right D! It's just the grip that's frustrating. When I pull all the skin towards the head, you're left with a handful of thick base, balls, pubes etc. (even if you shave) and it's just tough with a regular ok or a reverse to get at those ligs without slipping down the shaft. It's frustrating because for the brief time that I can get a good grip, the stretch is unreal. Wish we could come up with a better grip method for this.

Yeah, the pubic hair can be a bitch, especially as you gain with this exercise as the hair will creep up the shaft faster than with other stretches.
 
Footlong's are one of my best stretches I have created. Right up there with DLD Blasters and Sock Stretches.
 
doublelongdaddy;352243 said:
Yes it will increase your penis size across the board. As I said before, I think this will be a very effective exercise in closing the gap between bpel and fsl.

Can the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] hardcore stretch replace this or is this a stand alone excercise which should still be done regardless of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretching?
 
Dick_Slinger;448224 said:
Can the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] hardcore stretch replace this or is this a stand alone excercise which should still be done regardless of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretching?

I would say yes as we are working with internal penis. The DLS directly pulls this from the body in a similar manner to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Hardcore Stretches. A [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PowerAssist[/words] or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] can also serve that function using the circle portion of the equipment, if you check out the Expressive Stretching thread you will see the various forms of Expressive gains.
 
So the hand on your head goes down and outward, while the hand at your absolute base is completely stationary? Or does the base hand go down and outward too?

Thanks
 
Sirnutsalot;449006 said:
So the hand on your head goes down and outward, while the hand at your absolute base is completely stationary? Or does the base hand go down and outward too?

Thanks

No so much a movement with the bottom hand then keeping steady pressure against the upper hand, make sense?
 
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