There's always the chance of little twinges here, and there don't get discouraged. As long as you keep a cool head while training everything should be ok just do your exercises responsibly. Take it slow at first don't want to pull as hard as possible in the first minute instead give the tissues a chance to warm up, and this will keep pain away
 
templnite;679627 said:
There's always the chance of little twinges here, and there don't get discouraged. As long as you keep a cool head while training everything should be ok just do your exercises responsibly. Take it slow at first don't want to pull as hard as possible in the first minute instead give the tissues a chance to warm up, and this will keep pain away

Ight bro thanks I'll just take it easy at the start. I'm also gonna get some hirudoid cream and maybe make some EVO oil just to make sure and I could also get rid of my old thrombosed vein while I'm at it! Have you ever used the hirudoid cream and EVO oil before??
 
Only evo oil, but I didn't have thrombosis I only used it to increase blood-flow which it did very well
 
templnite;679686 said:
Only evo oil, but I didn't have thrombosis I only used it to increase blood-flow which it did very well

Oh ok cool! I think I'm gonna make some soon and try to get rid of these thrombosed veins and hopefully have all the other positives that comes with it (better flaccid hang, veins popping out more, increased blood flow, harder erections, etc). Do you remember where you got all the ingrediants to make the oil? Grocery store perhaps? Or somewhere else?
 
eugine8plz;679605 said:
Well DLD, the vein has been there when erect for the last 2-3 months but it was squishy. But as of about 1 week ago it is there when flaccid as well and is harder and I feel a pain in is every now and then. What do you think?

To me it sounds normal, especially since it is squishy when erect. It would not harm you to go through the two week therapy for Thrombosis but I do not think it is Thrombosis. It sounds to me more like a vein becoming more prominent due to PE.
 
doublelongdaddy;679805 said:
To me it sounds normal, especially since it is squishy when erect. It would not harm you to go through the two week therapy for Thrombosis but I do not think it is Thrombosis. It sounds to me more like a vein becoming more prominent due to PE.

Alright i see. The only thing is that it hurts near the bottom of the vein and it's not my ligaments for workouts. I Havnt done my routine in 3 days and it still hurts. there is a vein underneath that vein and that could be it.
I think I might try and make the EVO oil, do you know where I can get the ingrediants for it??
 
doublelongdaddy;679805 said:
To me it sounds normal, especially since it is squishy when erect. It would not harm you to go through the two week therapy for Thrombosis but I do not think it is Thrombosis. It sounds to me more like a vein becoming more prominent due to PE.

Hey DLD, so i think i am going to take some time off of PE to heal from whatever i have going on down there aha. It is a very sharp and aching pain on the left side base of my dick and it got worse this morning. I took a day off and then this morning i did a 5 minute length routine and the area i described above hurt really bad. I think the pop that i had the other day while doing foot long stretches wasn't actually a lig pop, it might have actually been something bad. What do you suggest that i do master DLD? :)
 
eugine8plz;680062 said:
Hey DLD, so i think i am going to take some time off of PE to heal from whatever i have going on down there aha. It is a very sharp and aching pain on the left side base of my dick and it got worse this morning. I took a day off and then this morning i did a 5 minute length routine and the area i described above hurt really bad. I think the pop that i had the other day while doing foot long stretches wasn't actually a lig pop, it might have actually been something bad. What do you suggest that i do master DLD? :)

The big pop did not cause any problems, this happens to most men. As I said, it is most likely a strain of the ligament and should take no more than a couple days to heal. Remember to do lots of massage and heat therapy, this will heal things fastest.
 
doublelongdaddy;680071 said:
The big pop did not cause any problems, this happens to most men. As I said, it is most likely a strain of the ligament and should take no more than a couple days to heal. Remember to do lots of massage and heat therapy, this will heal things fastest.

I read somewhere that when staining a suspensory ligament you should apply ice within 48 hours of the injury occurring, rest for 2-3 days and do kegels to strengthen it again. I will also do heat and massaging as well as what i read online. Does this sound ok to do??
 
runningignus;680210 said:
Heats always best. Cold has its benefits to shock arteries and veins. Follow with heat and massage.

Alright I will make sure to do that for the next week or so that I am taking off of PE! I am really looking forward to getting back in the game and fulfilling my goals
 
So it's 2016 and I have some great goals in mind for this year!!! Here they are...

-BPEL: 8.5" (gain a bit under 1")
-NBPEL: 8" (gain 1")
-MSEG: 5.5" (gain .5")
-BPFSL: 9" (gain 1")
-To get a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words]
-To get rid of my thrombosis vein and try to stay away from injuries
-To become more involved in the forums and help brothers out with things that I know
-Learn more about everything when it comes to PE
-I also want to grow my flaccid size by about .5" or 1" even so that its about 5.5" non bone pressed, this is more of a confidence thing!


What is everyone else's goals? :)
 
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shortdick;680241 said:
yep id like to get to 8 nbpel,n yeah learning from the bros is an amazing gift:)

That's awesome short, I'll see you in the 8" club soon enough my brother :) and yes I come here every day looking forward to learning more from my brothers and
seeing what they have to offer!!
 
eugine8plz;680314 said:
That's awesome short, I'll see you in the 8" club soon enough my brother :) and yes I come here every day looking forward to learning more from my brothers and
seeing what they have to offer!!

yeah actually would like to get bigger,but takes time effort etc etc:) but yeah we have to get there...
 
shortdick;680316 said:
yeah actually would like to get bigger,but takes time effort etc etc:) but yeah we have to get there...

Don't worry bro, as long as we stay consistent and have good routines we will get there :) in due time my friend, in due time
:)
 
eugine8plz;680339 said:
Don't worry bro, as long as we stay consistent and have good routines we will get there :) in due time my friend, in due time
:)

yep will be a great day when i grab the ruler n get the great news!:)
 
runningignus;680210 said:
Heats always best. Cold has its benefits to shock arteries and veins. Follow with heat and massage.

So it's been about 4 or 5 days since the lig strain (which I believe it is one) and I've been massaging it quite often, doing kegels frequently and Havnt done PE and it's still kinda hurts. Not as bad as the other day but it kinda hurts. Today I did very very light stretches for about 5 minutes and that's all and it hurt a little bit after I was done. Anything else that I can do? DLD do you have any advice either?

Thanks brothers!!
 
runningignus;680210 said:
Heats always best. Cold has its benefits to shock arteries and veins. Follow with heat and massage.

Actually I just did another short session today and it didn't really hurt at all. I am going to do a few more of these short light sessions just to get my penis used to it again and then I'll start doing longer and more intense sessions again
 
eugine8plz;680616 said:
Actually I just did another short session today and it didn't really hurt at all. I am going to do a few more of these short light sessions just to get my penis used to it again and then I'll start doing longer and more intense sessions again

Thats it Eugine! Slowly and steadily....never rush!
 
doublelongdaddy;680674 said:
Thats it Eugine! Slowly and steadily....never rush!

You know what they say, slow and steady wins the race!! I'm looking into buying a new [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] sometime soon so the gains will really be coming in!
 
What [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?
You have the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] already don't you?
 
runningignus;680794 said:
What [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?
You have the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] already don't you?

No I was thinking about getting the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] I don't actually have one :) I'm either going to get a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] or a stealth PE sleeve or something else that is cheaper I don't know yet lol but I will be getting one sometime in the future!!
 
I said frick it and bought me a off brand [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on ebay. I just got it in today, so I have a present when I get home. I think it's the older style or whatever the other company used to be called. It has plenty of rods to go up to 12". I wanna set up the phallogenetics. I need something to pull up hard while at home and not doing PE. I might have screwed myself since it was "only $25" lol but you never know.
 
Yup. I believe they're old versions or have some type of flaw. I'm gonna look into mine when I get home. I couldn't believe it when I saw it as well. If it's good, it's my Christmas present, if not, I'm ok with $25 in the drain. Clockwise in America, counter clockwise in Aussie land lol. I had to say it. Haha
 
eugine8plz;680716 said:
You know what they say, slow and steady wins the race!! I'm looking into buying a new [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] sometime soon so the gains will really be coming in!

As slow as possible as fast as necessary!
 
runningignus;680818 said:
Yup. I believe they're old versions or have some type of flaw. I'm gonna look into mine when I get home. I couldn't believe it when I saw it as well. If it's good, it's my Christmas present, if not, I'm ok with $25 in the drain. Clockwise in America, counter clockwise in Aussie land lol. I had to say it. Haha

8 Rods 11"Male Penis Extender Enlargement System Enlarger Stretcher Enhancementa | eBay Ya this one comes with a instruction [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] and rods up to 11" and is only $16! Might look into this one, since I'm on a tight budget
 
doublelongdaddy;680821 said:
As slow as possible as fast as necessary!

You said it all DLD!! I'm gonna do a couple more less intensive sessions and then start doing my regular routine again, also I'm gonna try to get rid of the thrombosis vein that I've had for a while with either EVO oil or the digestive pills that firedragonleo suggested
so that I can start doing girth work again. I want to get to 8" NBPEL and 5.5" MSEG by summer time (Early July), do you believe that it is possible DLD??
 
eugine8plz;680828 said:
8 Rods 11"Male [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Penis [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words][/words] Enlargement System Enlarger Stretcher Enhancementa | eBay Ya this one comes with a instruction [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] and rods up to 11" and is only $16! Might look into this one, since I'm on a tight budget

Ok. So it's the Jez [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I don't know if they're even still around. Working just as I remember my old one did. Played with all the rods so the threads are smoothed and easy to get on and off.

Now, I'm in the same boat as I was when I got rid of it last time, the base is too tight. I'll sand it down and see if it helps a little. Got the PF sitting on top as well using the noose. The base is only 4cm wide, so around 1.5" wide. Not big. The price for the X4 labs wide base is $70 without shipping. No thanks. I can make one if I want but I get to excited when in the hardware store. We'll see.
 
runningignus;680869 said:
Ok. So it's the Jez [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I don't know if they're even still around. Working just as I remember my old one did. Played with all the rods so the threads are smoothed and easy to get on and off.

Now, I'm in the same boat as I was when I got rid of it last time, the base is too tight. I'll sand it down and see if it helps a little. Got the PF sitting on top as well using the noose. The base is only 4cm wide, so around 1.5" wide. Not big. The price for the X4 labs wide base is $70 without shipping. No thanks. I can make one if I want but I get to excited when in the hardware store. We'll see.

Dang bro thats not good. At least it is probably an easy fix! Im hoping that mine doesn't have the same problem, my base girth is about 5.25" i believe when erect, don't know about flaccid though, i haven't measured it for a long time. I am hoping to order my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] within the month, and hopefully it is a key to some quick gains!
 
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runningignus;680869 said:
Ok. So it's the Jez [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I don't know if they're even still around. Working just as I remember my old one did. Played with all the rods so the threads are smoothed and easy to get on and off.

Now, I'm in the same boat as I was when I got rid of it last time, the base is too tight. I'll sand it down and see if it helps a little. Got the PF sitting on top as well using the noose. The base is only 4cm wide, so around 1.5" wide. Not big. The price for the X4 labs wide base is $70 without shipping. No thanks. I can make one if I want but I get to excited when in the hardware store. We'll see.

I will see what kind of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] Il get from ebay for less than 15 dollars lol
Base too tight sounds bad, hopefully that wont happen.
 
BigBeardBig;680903 said:
I will see what kind of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] Il get from ebay for less than 15 dollars lol
Base too tight sounds bad, hopefully that wont happen.

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doublelongdaddy;681010 said:
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Hey DLD, so today I did another short length session with low intenity and the left side of the base of my dick (the ligaments) are really starting to hurt again and I truly do not know what I should do. Please DLD, help me and shine some light on me, I want the pain to stop!!
 
eugine8plz;681069 said:
Hey DLD, so today I did another short length session with low intenity and the left side of the base of my dick (the ligaments) are really starting to hurt again and I truly do not know what I should do. Please DLD, help me and shine some light on me, I want the pain to stop!!

Sometimes there is going to be a certain amount of discomfort until ligaments are equal in length if there is an inequality. If there is only pain on one side then your ligaments are uneven in length. You can dial back the intensity to that side so the discomfort is less but the real goal would be to increase the tension and experience no pain.
 
doublelongdaddy;681420 said:
Sometimes there is going to be a certain amount of discomfort until ligaments are equal in length if there is an inequality. If there is only pain on one side then your ligaments are uneven in length. You can dial back the intensity to that side so the discomfort is less but the real goal would be to increase the tension and experience no pain.

Alright so i am going to stretch hard to the left and lightly to the right since the left side of my ligaments hurt. Thanks for the advice I'll let you know how it goes!! Also i did my first girth session tonight for the first time in about 3-4 months and let me tell you did it ever feel good!! Just feeling the expansion and looking down at my expanded dick was just such a good feeling!:) I am going to start doing them way more often again. I only did about 200 wet jelqs and a couple of minutes of ssjs but it still made me feel amazing!!

I can feel the 7.5"nbpel x5.25"mseg short term goal just around the corner and then not long after that the 8"nbpel x 5.5"mseg will be in my sights!!!!:)
 
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eugine8plz;681467 said:
Alright so i am going to stretch hard to the left and lightly to the right since the left side of my ligaments hurt. Thanks for the advice I'll let you know how it goes!! Also i did my first girth session tonight for the first time in about 3-4 months and let me tell you did it ever feel good!! Just feeling the expansion and looking down at my expanded dick was just such a good feeling!:) I am going to start doing them way more often again. I only did about 200 wet jelqs and a couple of minutes of ssjs but it still made me feel amazing!!

I can feel the 7.5"nbpel x5.25"mseg short term goal just around the corner and then not long after that the 8"nbpel x 5.5"mseg will be in my sights!!!!:)

Only stretch this way until things even out then go back to a balanced stretching routine.
 
doublelongdaddy;681567 said:
Only stretch this way until things even out then go back to a balanced stretching routine.

Alright I'll make sure that I go back to the regular routine when everything goes back to normal
 
doublelongdaddy;681567 said:
Only stretch this way until things even out then go back to a balanced stretching routine.

I was doing girth again yesterday and I noticed that my dick is so much vascular then it was before! It was crazy, I never noticed some of these veins before, and vascularity is a starting [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sign[/words] to gains so hopefully I see some within the next little while!!
 
On the top of your shaft or bottom?
I've become more vascular as well on top but was shocked as hell when I finally looked underneath. I had crazy veins everywhere.
 
runningignus;681666 said:
On the top of your shaft or bottom?
I've become more vascular as well on top but was shocked as hell when I finally looked underneath. I had crazy veins everywhere.

On the left side the run all the way up and on the right side they run up to about half way! And underneath is pretty dang vascular too aha
 
eugine8plz;681663 said:
I was doing girth again yesterday and I noticed that my dick is so much vascular then it was before! It was crazy, I never noticed some of these veins before, and vascularity is a starting [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sign[/words] to gains so hopefully I see some within the next little while!!

Vascularity is one of the great signs of growth. It also give the penis a much meaning look. Chicks dig veins :)
 
doublelongdaddy;681902 said:
Vascularity is one of the great signs of growth. It also give the penis a much meaning look. Chicks dig veins :)

Oh hell ya!! My girl loves the veins lol. I really like the looks of more veins on my dick rather then no veins. Makes me feel like I'm doing something right :)
 
eugine8plz;682018 said:
Oh hell ya!! My girl loves the veins lol. I really like the looks of more veins on my dick rather then no veins. Makes me feel like I'm doing something right :)

You are doing something right and I am happy you are seeing these signs of growth. I agree a vascular penis looks sooooo good!
 
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