doublelongdaddy;673141 said:
I am praying that that gain comes for you and my calendar is marked! Push on and make this happen my Man!

Thanks DLD! I got a new blue squiggly squishy blue vein on the bottom of my dick pretty much right where I grip from stretches. Good sign?
 
doublelongdaddy;673141 said:
I am praying that that gain comes for you and my calendar is marked! Push on and make this happen my Man!

Thanks DLD! I got a new blue squiggly squishy blue vein on the bottom of my dick pretty much right where I grip from stretches. Good sign of growth? Also would this be a problem since I grip fairly in that area??
 
eugine8plz;673276 said:
Thanks DLD! I got a new blue squiggly squishy blue vein on the bottom of my dick pretty much right where I grip from stretches. Good sign of growth? Also would this be a problem since I grip fairly in that area??

Squishy is just fine! Hard, wire-like veins are what are bad (Thrombosis) but soft veins are a good sign of increased vascularity, a flush of new blood into a thicker penis! Good work so far!
 
doublelongdaddy;673294 said:
Squishy is just fine! Hard, wire-like veins are what are bad (Thrombosis) but soft veins are a good sign of increased vascularity, a flush of new blood into a thicker penis! Good work so far!

Alright sweet! Should i be cautious while stretching though since the vein is right where i grab when stretching??
 
Just stretch normally. I put my veins through more, and have been fine
 
eugine8plz;673355 said:
Alright sweet! Should i be cautious while stretching though since the vein is right where i grab when stretching??

If flaccid, no.
 
doublelongdaddy;673585 said:
If flaccid, no.

today I had quite the scare. I finished my routine and jumped into the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] for awhile. After 45min-1hour I took the bandage off, stretched for 5 min then put it back on, as I usually do, only this time I did a very tight wrap and extended my penis to its limits. After a half hour I just grabbed my junk and noticed I had no feeling in my glans and my shaft. So I rushed to the washroom, took of the bandage and started massaging it as deeply as I could. I got the feeling back after about 5 minutes but boy was I ever scared!!! I thought I was in deep shit!! Now I know to never wrap that tightly again lol. Over not that bad of a session and I'm looking forward to tomorrow's!!
 
Yea, wrapping isn't really there to make you go past your limits. It's there to keep your flaccid in a longer state than it normally is in a resting state. Trying to use it for actual stretching is a bad idea, which you learned today.

Sounds like you might do well for yourself to use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] if that's what you're after. Or a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] which is close to it but portable.
 
Longth;674275 said:
Yea, wrapping isn't really there to make you go past your limits. It's there to keep your flaccid in a longer state than it normally is in a resting state. Trying to use it for actual stretching is a bad idea, which you learned today.

Sounds like you might do well for yourself to use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] if that's what you're after. Or a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] which is close to it but portable.

I totally would get one of those two but the only thing is that I just don't have the extra money to get one, that's the only reason why I am still using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words]. When I usually wrap I wrap it to about 70%-80% of my BPFSL so I still get a good stretch in with it, plus I use it for about 3-4 hours a day so it does still help out a lot! If I ever get some money to blow I'll for sure buy a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] or a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]!
 
Don't worry, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]uncle jim[/words] will treat you good for now. In time you'll know right what to expect from the different training methods, and get scared no more
 
eugine8plz;674278 said:
I totally would get one of those two but the only thing is that I just don't have the extra money to get one, that's the only reason why I am still using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words]. When I usually wrap I wrap it to about 70%-80% of my BPFSL so I still get a good stretch in with it, plus I use it for about 3-4 hours a day so it does still help out a lot! If I ever get some money to blow I'll for sure buy a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] or a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]!

You should keep wrapping when you do come about getting one anyway. It's been considered a helpful technique for pretty much any length routine for many years now.
 
eugine8plz;674272 said:
today I had quite the scare. I finished my routine and jumped into the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] for awhile. After 45min-1hour I took the bandage off, stretched for 5 min then put it back on, as I usually do, only this time I did a very tight wrap and extended my penis to its limits. After a half hour I just grabbed my junk and noticed I had no feeling in my glans and my shaft. So I rushed to the washroom, took of the bandage and started massaging it as deeply as I could. I got the feeling back after about 5 minutes but boy was I ever scared!!! I thought I was in deep shit!! Now I know to never wrap that tightly again lol. Over not that bad of a session and I'm looking forward to tomorrow's!!

Never fear that, it is totally safe to constrict like you are for up to an hour at which point you should unwrap, massage circulation back and rewrap.
 
doublelongdaddy;674391 said:
Never fear that, it is totally safe to constrict like you are for up to an hour at which point you should unwrap, massage circulation back and rewrap.

Ya usually it doesn't get really numb like that though lol. I've gotten used to the feeling of having the wrap on for hours on end now. Today I didn't do a length routine until later on but I had a total of 5 hours in the wrap this morning then did a short 10 minute routine after supper then stayed in the wrap for another 2 hours. I want my flaccid length to get better too and also I want to stop the turtling from happening. My flaccid length is a bit bigger now I believe but is turtled a lot and I hate it lol but whatever. 13 days until measuring hoping I at least gained .25" I feel like I have! Wish me luck!!
 
eugine8plz;674583 said:
Ya usually it doesn't get really numb like that though lol. I've gotten used to the feeling of having the wrap on for hours on end now. Today I didn't do a length routine until later on but I had a total of 5 hours in the wrap this morning then did a short 10 minute routine after supper then stayed in the wrap for another 2 hours. I want my flaccid length to get better too and also I want to stop the turtling from happening. My flaccid length is a bit bigger now I believe but is turtled a lot and I hate it lol but whatever. 13 days until measuring hoping I at least gained .25" I feel like I have! Wish me luck!!

Sound good. I am happy you are seeing good results in flaccid size, keep training that dick to remain elongated by using your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] wrap.
 
doublelongdaddy;674696 said:
Sound good. I am happy you are seeing good results in flaccid size, keep training that dick to remain elongated by using your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] wrap.

Yup I try my hardest to get at least 1.5-2 hours in the wrap every day after my session. If I don't put the wrap on after my session, it makes me feel like the session went to waste because you're not keeping the stretch going. You are pretty much just letting your penis go back to its normal size again when you could be keeping it elongated for much longer! [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Ace[/words] is awesome I'm so glad that you came up with it DLD, it's also super affordable so everyone can use it!
 
eugine8plz;674837 said:
Yup I try my hardest to get at least 1.5-2 hours in the wrap every day after my session. If I don't put the wrap on after my session, it makes me feel like the session went to waste because you're not keeping the stretch going. You are pretty much just letting your penis go back to its normal size again when you could be keeping it elongated for much longer! [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Ace[/words] is awesome I'm so glad that you came up with it DLD, it's also super affordable so everyone can use it!

Perfect time for training your flaccid to stay elongated. It tales time and continuous effort to change the way our flaccid penis hangs because it has been used to turtling for all it's life. We need to train the penis to stay elongated and this takes time, but so worth the efforts.
 
doublelongdaddy;674973 said:
Perfect time for training your flaccid to stay elongated. It tales time and continuous effort to change the way our flaccid penis hangs because it has been used to turtling for all it's life. We need to train the penis to stay elongated and this takes time, but so worth the efforts.

I agree, I'm going to be using it for a long time. Its almost the 31st which is measuring day and i can't wait to see if i have had any results. I was lacking in the lengths of my sessions for a bit but now I'm going back to the original sessions with a few more stretches incorporated. Hopefully i will put a dent in that ruler, do you think i will DLD??
 
eugine8plz;675810 said:
I agree, I'm going to be using it for a long time. Its almost the 31st which is measuring day and i can't wait to see if i have had any results. I was lacking in the lengths of my sessions for a bit but now I'm going back to the original sessions with a few more stretches incorporated. Hopefully i will put a dent in that ruler, do you think i will DLD??

You stand a good shot imo, but length was never nice to me. More than a few times I was so freaking sure I'd gained I could swear it, only to measure and find I'd gained nothing.

Stay steady with kegels when you aren't training and reverse kegels when you are. You're trying hard enough, so just keep up the good work.
 
Longth;675859 said:
You stand a good shot imo, but length was never nice to me. More than a few times I was so freaking sure I'd gained I could swear it, only to measure and find I'd gained nothing.

Stay steady with kegels when you aren't training and reverse kegels when you are. You're trying hard enough, so just keep up the good work.

strange situation but happens too often the mind n the eye are deceiving us ...once more:P
 
shortdick;675906 said:
strange situation but happens too often the mind n the eye are deceiving us ...once more:P

Our own worst enemy can sometimes be ourselves. Seeing and believing are very intertwined!
 
shortdick;676026 said:
seeing for believing

For me seeing was very difficult for a lack of belief I had in myself. I literally gained 2 inches and I just could not see it. This became a big enough issue for me that I wrote the study on PDD (Penile Dysmorphic Disorder) please everyone read through this article, it will really help those who are having perspective issues.
 
doublelongdaddy;676115 said:
For me seeing was very difficult for a lack of belief I had in myself. I literally gained 2 inches and I just could not see it. This became a big enough issue for me that I wrote the study on PDD (Penile Dysmorphic Disorder) please everyone read through this article, it will really help those who are having perspective issues.

yep when we dont believe in ourselves we are screwed,i deal whit that i have a lot of insecurities n stuff.n sometimes i get depressed n sad.

even when my penis gets bigger,i feel like an idiot sometimes..There are tons of things i have to change, i have a lot of work to do..but sometimes things dont make fucking sense..


There are so many things i want to learn n get,i would like to share the knowledge id gather.
 
So tomorrow is the measuring day and I honestly have no idea what to expect! I'm hoping to have at least gained .2" in length bringing me to about 7.5" BPEL, but since I Havnt done any girth work within the last 2 months Im not expecting any girth gains lol. Results will be posted tomorrow sometime in the morning!
 
shortdick;676197 said:
well if you have been consistent and you have been doing things right you can expect great gains!!

Yo thanks short! my bpfsl has gotten bigger by a bit i believe, i think i might be more then 8" bpfsl. What do you guys think?

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Also i have the measurements... i measured about 7.5" and i didn't even have good eq and when i first measured i was 7.25" with great eq!! I will measure again one day when i get good eq.

My next measuring day will be February 1st 2016 which is when i was hoping to be around 8" BPEL. I might try to buy an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] in the new year or maybe even a stealth sleeve with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] coil.
 
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shortdick;676126 said:
yep when we dont believe in ourselves we are screwed


Yup, a easier way to say in indeed. Belief is a strange thing, when we lack it and we actually make gains we can not see them but once Belief is linked to making gains everything changes.
 
doublelongdaddy;676299 said:
Yup, a easier way to say in indeed. Belief is a strange thing, when we lack it and we actually make gains we can not see them but once Belief is linked to making gains everything changes.

This is so true. you could gain a whole inch and if you don't believe it, then you won't see it. I gained about a quarter inch and honestly I had no idea! I know it isn't a big jump but it's still something. My bpfsl grew almost grew .75" since I have started and I couldn't tell at all, it was about 7.5" now it's a bit over 8" (look at the attachment picture in my last comment). You must believe to receive. :)
 
^I think what he meant is that if you don't start by believing you won't be able to conceive the things you need to do. If I don't believe anything its harder to evolve my training because I'm not fully aware of my potential.
 
eugine8plz;676504 said:
This is so true. you could gain a whole inch and if you don't believe it, then you won't see it. I gained about a quarter inch and honestly I had no idea! I know it isn't a big jump but it's still something. My bpfsl grew almost grew .75" since I have started and I couldn't tell at all, it was about 7.5" now it's a bit over 8" (look at the attachment picture in my last comment). You must believe to receive. :)

Funny, I was talking with my therapist about this today and she wholeheartedly agrees. We made the comparison to an overweight person who has been that way their entire life then all of a sudden they lose the weight and even though they have gotten to the goal weight they desire it makes no difference because they can not see it. As the body evolves so the mind should run abreast.
 
doublelongdaddy;676642 said:
Funny, I was talking with my therapist about this today and she wholeheartedly agrees. We made the comparison to an overweight person who has been that way their entire life then all of a sudden they lose the weight and even though they have gotten to the goal weight they desire it makes no difference because they can not see it. As the body evolves so the mind should run abreast.

Ya i know what you mean DLD i look at that with my muscle tone as well. Ive always been somewhat muscular but i started hitting the gym about 4 months ago and i looked at old pics of myself and looked at myself now and said "wow i really have gotten more built". its just so weird.
 
doublelongdaddy;676642 said:
Funny, I was talking with my therapist about this today and she wholeheartedly agrees. We made the comparison to an overweight person who has been that way their entire life then all of a sudden they lose the weight and even though they have gotten to the goal weight they desire it makes no difference because they can not see it. As the body evolves so the mind should run abreast.

And also i used to be 6.8 NBPEL and i measured today and i am about 7.2 which was pretty much by BPEL a few months back! I am going to change my goal from reaching 8" BPEL to reaching 8" NBPEL by the end of July of 2016! Its gonna be a long journey but i believe in myself that i can do it! Cant wait to see some more gains!
 
Hey man are you 7.2 nbpel? if so thats fucking amazing yeah i think im getting the infamous bpel measuremnt away,n im looking for the highly coveted NBPEL GAINS!!
 
shortdick;676685 said:
Hey man are you 7.2 nbpel? if so thats fucking amazing yeah i think im getting the infamous bpel measuremnt away,n im looking for the highly coveted NBPEL GAINS!!

Ya man I lost a little bit of fat on my fat pad and gained about .3" and ya now I'm 7.2" npbel!!! I'm stoked and can't wait for more gains to come!
 
Kegels will help with nbpel measurements. It's slow going but it does burn fat in the pelvic area. There's also the traditional stuff like leg lifts or squats but kegels literally target that whole area.
 
eugine8plz;676720 said:
Ya man I lost a little bit of fat on my fat pad and gained about .3" and ya now I'm 7.2" npbel!!! I'm stoked and can't wait for more gains to come!

It is so awesome when that fat pad melts away. I am down to an inch on my fat pad down from over 2" so I feel super good. I can get it down to a 1/4" but that is at a body weight of 145, which is far to skinny, so I am shooting for 175 and 1/2" pad, I will be satisfied with that. But, 6 months ago, when I got out of the hospital I looked fat and I lost so much flaccid size, so much! Being able to see the length come back is so exciting.
 
eugine8plz;676720 said:
Ya man I lost a little bit of fat on my fat pad and gained about .3" and ya now I'm 7.2" npbel!!! I'm stoked and can't wait for more gains to come!

congrats definitely you are getting great gains!you will get bigger no doubt
 
doublelongdaddy;676791 said:
It is so awesome when that fat pad melts away. I am down to an inch on my fat pad down from over 2" so I feel super good. I can get it down to a 1/4" but that is at a body weight of 145, which is far to skinny, so I am shooting for 175 and 1/2" pad, I will be satisfied with that. But, 6 months ago, when I got out of the hospital I looked fat and I lost so much flaccid size, so much! Being able to see the length come back is so exciting.

Ya DLD I'm at about .75" fat pad give or take and i want to get it to about .25" or .5" by cutting hard and going hard at the gym!! Hoping to get that 8" NBPEL by mid summer lets get it!!! Also, do you have any tips for gaining flaccid length? My flaccid length isn't gaining really and i really want to gain some flaccid length.

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shortdick;676807 said:
congrats definitely you are getting great gains!you will get bigger no doubt

Thanks brother it means a lot!! Hopefully more to come! :)
 
Flaccid length just takes constant training. Things like the lazy ass stretch (literally just sit on your dick, can be done fully clothed) [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wraps, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]uncle Jim[/words]'s strap, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words], etc. You pair that with heat and a good length routine and you'll see some flaccid gains. Just takes time and consistency. But it's not nearly as tough to gaining erect size.
 
I think flaccid gains are an interesting part of PE,if we are going to take our pants down they are going to see a nice n long Dick..

A long n flaccid penis looks better than a turtled penis...i hate turtling.

I think RK can help out whit that...
 
shortdick;676830 said:
I think flaccid gains are an interesting part of PE,if we are going to take our pants down they are going to see a nice n long Dick..

A long n flaccid penis looks better than a turtled penis...i hate turtling.

I think RK can help out whit that...

I hate the turtle too. What changed my flaccid length to remain longer was [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Uncle Jim[/words]'s Strap, I practiced this until my penis was trained to remain elongated. Another great thing to help with flaccid size is the Testicle Health Massage and Stretch.
 
doublelongdaddy;676966 said:
I hate the turtle too. What changed my flaccid length to remain longer was [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Uncle Jim[/words]'s Strap, I practiced this until my penis was trained to remain elongated. Another great thing to help with flaccid size is the Testicle Health Massage and Stretch.

Ya I've been using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] uncle aims wrap for a couple months now and it has helped a bit but not to the point where I'm almost always elongated. As we speak I'm doing the lazy ass stretch cause I'm too lazy to put on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] right now lol. How long should it take to get it to the point where it is almost always elongated with not much turtling??
 
Longth;676827 said:
Flaccid length just takes constant training. Things like the lazy ass stretch (literally just sit on your dick, can be done fully clothed) [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wraps, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]uncle Jim[/words]'s strap, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words], etc. You pair that with heat and a good length routine and you'll see some flaccid gains. Just takes time and consistency. But it's not nearly as tough to gaining erect size.

And longth do you mean that it is a lot harder to gain erect gains or did you mean it is a lot easier to gain erect???
 
eugine8plz;677013 said:
And longth do you mean that it is a lot harder to gain erect gains or did you mean it is a lot easier to gain erect???

I was saying flaccid is way less uncomfortable to train. You don't need to do high tension or anything. Just keep it elongated. Anything you can do to rig your flaccid to be longer will do. Erect length gains I found very unpleasant to get because you have to use a ton of tension and I have foreskin to battle. Suffice to say I'm glad that's over.
 
eugine8plz;677010 said:
Ya I've been using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] uncle aims wrap for a couple months now and it has helped a bit but not to the point where I'm almost always elongated. As we speak I'm doing the lazy ass stretch cause I'm too lazy to put on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] right now lol. How long should it take to get it to the point where it is almost always elongated with not much turtling??

It takes much time to accomplish this so do not become discouraged early and stop. For me it took about a year of training each day to have my flaccid size become very close to my erect size. The idea here is teaching the penis to remain elongated.
 
doublelongdaddy;677122 said:
It takes much time to accomplish this so do not become discouraged early and stop. For me it took about a year of training each day to have my flaccid size become very close to my erect size. The idea here is teaching the penis to remain elongated.

Yea. If you stop it reverts faster than erect gains in my experience. I trained mine for about 4 months in the past and had it go straight back down in a matter of days because my methods were extremely passive and really probably needed to be done for a couple years with consistency to be cemented properly.

But like I said, you can use extremely easy passive methods to get it done. It's painless but time consuming. All in all I was stupid to stop, because I'd probably have a bp 7 flaccid right now if I had just followed through. Live and learn, and try to take advantage of other's experience when you can.
 
doublelongdaddy;677122 said:
It takes much time to accomplish this so do not become discouraged early and stop. For me it took about a year of training each day to have my flaccid size become very close to my erect size. The idea here is teaching the penis to remain elongated.

Ok I see. Does flaccid work also help with erect gains? Cause lately I Havnt had much time to do long length sessions, I just do a short 10 minute session then stay in the wrap for about 6 hours.
 
Longth;677133 said:
Yea. If you stop it reverts faster than erect gains in my experience. I trained mine for about 4 months in the past and had it go straight back down in a matter of days because my methods were extremely passive and really probably needed to be done for a couple years with consistency to be cemented properly.

But like I said, you can use extremely easy passive methods to get it done. It's painless but time consuming. All in all I was stupid to stop, because I'd probably have a bp 7 flaccid right now if I had just followed through. Live and learn, and try to take advantage of other's experience when you can.

Ya I want to keep with the flaccid gains because I'm lacking in flaccid game and I want it as a confidence booster. I'm gonna try to stay in he [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]uncle jims[/words] wrap for at least 5 hours a day every day.
 
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