I've tried a lot of different exercises and clamping, but never really got any gains. The only basic move i never got into was jelqing. Could this be the missing link to my gains? Just how effective are they? I was thinking maybe i should jelq Monday through Friday and do stretches Monday, Wednesday, and Friday
 
dmoney101;478059 said:
I've tried a lot of different exercises and clamping, but never really got any gains. The only basic move i never got into was jelqing. Could this be the missing link to my gains? Just how effective are they? I was thinking maybe i should jelq Monday through Friday and do stretches Monday, Wednesday, and Friday

You have basically been avoiding the very foundation of Penis Enlargement. :) As REDZULU said, jelqing is very effective.
You can check my signature to see my gains. They are the soul result of jelqing and some edging. I do no other exercises.

So give it a try and be sure to follow the advice for newbies on this one.
 
savageblue;478084 said:
You have basically been avoiding the very foundation of Penis Enlargement. :) As REDZULU said, jelqing is very effective.
You can check my signature to see my gains. They are the soul result of jelqing and some edging. I do no other exercises.

So give it a try and be sure to follow the advice for newbies on this one.

haha yea pretty much. i never really liked them, i guess since i never got the immediate expansion people say they see and because my hands get really tired after a few minutes of doing them
 
Jelqing is as old as hanging (or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] force). Engorgement (of which jelqing is a technique) and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] (ie, stretching, hanging, etc) are the two techniques that encompass all penis enlargement exercises. We can only apply forces to the cells artificially to induce mitosis utilizing internal or external forces.

Jelqing builds internal pressure beyond "normal" pressure differential created by the relaxation of "smooth muscle". (Which really is still a form of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] to the individual fibers, but from a different perspective :D) The only way to chemically "relax" the smooth muscle further is to increase blood flow with vasodilators. Most importantly, Nitric Oxide is responsible for the "expansion" or "relaxation" of the smooth muscle.

To manually force these tissues and chambers to expand requires forcing more blood into the chambers than your "normal" blood pressure will produce. Jelqing is the oldest and most used technique to do so. You are simplistically "training" your penis to hold more blood than it normally would.

Ideally, one would supplement in order to produce a high level of nitric oxide and stay engorged slightly beyond "normal" for as long as possible while still allowing blood to flow into and out of the penis. That is why jelqing is so effective and safe. It constantly (while performing the exercise that is) creates higher than normal expansion of the penis while also allowing new blood to flow in and out of the penis. Without blood flow, or new blood, you have effectively started to "suffocate" your penis of nutrients and oxygen. Causing mitosis without blood, or chemical flow, is like standing still. Daughter cells will not grow into parent cells until they are "fed" sufficiently. :D And will die before reaching "maturity" or arriving a GZero if "starved".

So jelqing is in some ways superior to clamping or partial vacuums because it continually exceeds "normal" peak engorgement while at the same time inducing new blood to enter the "chambers" of the CC and CS while exercising. The advantage of clamping or partial vacuums is that one can be expanded for longer periods of time than they would by using their hands. However, those techniques lend themselves oftentimes to expanding more than is necessary without encouraging an increased blood flow at the same time.

Blah, blah, blah. :D Jelqing and kegels are, with the exception of their limitations as far as manual [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] and strength are concerned, the most effective and safest ways to make your penis more able to hold and collect blood in the penis. In the end, engorgement exercises are all about increasing the ability to supply and accept more blood into the penis, or create a pressure differential, which makes the penis "grow" to erection.

Anyway, if you are not seeing gains, even if you weren't jelqing, there is something wrong. Either the intensity (force) or duration of your exercises was not sufficient to induce mitosis. Most likely without knowing your exact routine, it is a matter of duration, because almost everything trendy in the Penis Enlargement world is about producing too much intensity for far too short of a duration. Easiest way to increase "intensity" without increasing the force used is to apply significant heat while performing any exercise to weaken the chemical structure (electrical bonds) and to reduce the tensile strength of the "fibers". Easiest way to increase duration is to either use less force so that you can endure it longer or use a device to apply said force that you can tolerate for as long as possible for you.

Tom
 
*sole (regarding my previous post)

Well, the expansion depends a bit on your erection level when you perform the jelq. Moreover, it is easier to feel it than to actually see it.
For instance, if you're jelqing (at around a 70% erection), try using your free hand to wrap your index finger and thumb around your glans, forming a reverse OK sign (just so it doesn't get in the way of your jelqing hand). Don't squeeze your glans with those fingers, just let them wrap around it. Now, as you jelq with your other hand, from the base of your shaft towards your glans, try and feel the expansion in your glans with those two fingers. You will probably feel the "throb".

As for your hands getting tired, it's just a matter of getting them used to the exercise. Even today, after more than 1 year jelqing, I sometimes feel my hands getting tired too. So don't sweat it, just keep doing it and take your time. :)
 
irspow;478095 said:
Jelqing is as old as hanging (or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] force). Engorgement (of which jelqing is a technique) and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] (ie, stretching, hanging, etc) are the two techniques that encompass all penis enlargement exercises. We can only apply forces to the cells artificially to induce mitosis utilizing internal or external forces.

Jelqing builds internal pressure beyond "normal" pressure differential created by the relaxation of "smooth muscle". (Which really is still a form of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] to the individual fibers, but from a different perspective :D) The only way to chemically "relax" the smooth muscle further is to increase blood flow with vasodilators. Most importantly, Nitric Oxide is responsible for the "expansion" or "relaxation" of the smooth muscle.

To manually force these tissues and chambers to expand requires forcing more blood into the chambers than your "normal" blood pressure will produce. Jelqing is the oldest and most used technique to do so. You are simplistically "training" your penis to hold more blood than it normally would.

Ideally, one would supplement in order to produce a high level of nitric oxide and stay engorged slightly beyond "normal" for as long as possible while still allowing blood to flow into and out of the penis. That is why jelqing is so effective and safe. It constantly (while performing the exercise that is) creates higher than normal expansion of the penis while also allowing new blood to flow in and out of the penis. Without blood flow, or new blood, you have effectively started to "suffocate" your penis of nutrients and oxygen. Causing mitosis without blood, or chemical flow, is like standing still. Daughter cells will not grow into parent cells until they are "fed" sufficiently. :D And will die before reaching "maturity" or arriving a GZero if "starved".

So jelqing is in some ways superior to clamping or partial vacuums because it continually exceeds "normal" peak engorgement while at the same time inducing new blood to enter the "chambers" of the CC and CS while exercising. The advantage of clamping or partial vacuums is that one can be expanded for longer periods of time than they would by using their hands. However, those techniques lend themselves oftentimes to expanding more than is necessary without encouraging an increased blood flow at the same time.

Blah, blah, blah. :D Jelqing and kegels are, with the exception of their limitations as far as manual [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] and strength are concerned, the most effective and safest ways to make your penis more able to hold and collect blood in the penis. In the end, engorgement exercises are all about increasing the ability to supply and accept more blood into the penis, or create a pressure differential, which makes the penis "grow" to erection.

Anyway, if you are not seeing gains, even if you weren't jelqing, there is something wrong. Either the intensity (force) or duration of your exercises was not sufficient to induce mitosis. Most likely without knowing your exact routine, it is a matter of duration, because almost everything trendy in the Penis Enlargement world is about producing too much intensity for far too short of a duration. Easiest way to increase "intensity" without increasing the force used is to apply significant heat while performing any exercise to weaken the chemical structure (electrical bonds) and to reduce the tensile strength of the "fibers". Easiest way to increase duration is to either use less force so that you can endure it longer or use a device to apply said force that you can tolerate for as long as possible for you.

Tom

Holy shit, man, now there's a nice explanation rofl
 
savageblue;478098 said:
Holy shit, man, now there's a nice explanation rofl

It is beautiful when you realize how many people give of themselves so graciously, very inspiring.
 
irspow;478095 said:
Jelqing is as old as hanging (or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] force). Engorgement (of which jelqing is a technique) and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] (ie, stretching, hanging, etc) are the two techniques that encompass all penis enlargement exercises. We can only apply forces to the cells artificially to induce mitosis utilizing internal or external forces.

Jelqing builds internal pressure beyond "normal" pressure differential created by the relaxation of "smooth muscle". (Which really is still a form of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] to the individual fibers, but from a different perspective :D) The only way to chemically "relax" the smooth muscle further is to increase blood flow with vasodilators. Most importantly, Nitric Oxide is responsible for the "expansion" or "relaxation" of the smooth muscle.

To manually force these tissues and chambers to expand requires forcing more blood into the chambers than your "normal" blood pressure will produce. Jelqing is the oldest and most used technique to do so. You are simplistically "training" your penis to hold more blood than it normally would.

Ideally, one would supplement in order to produce a high level of nitric oxide and stay engorged slightly beyond "normal" for as long as possible while still allowing blood to flow into and out of the penis. That is why jelqing is so effective and safe. It constantly (while performing the exercise that is) creates higher than normal expansion of the penis while also allowing new blood to flow in and out of the penis. Without blood flow, or new blood, you have effectively started to "suffocate" your penis of nutrients and oxygen. Causing mitosis without blood, or chemical flow, is like standing still. Daughter cells will not grow into parent cells until they are "fed" sufficiently. :D And will die before reaching "maturity" or arriving a GZero if "starved".

So jelqing is in some ways superior to clamping or partial vacuums because it continually exceeds "normal" peak engorgement while at the same time inducing new blood to enter the "chambers" of the CC and CS while exercising. The advantage of clamping or partial vacuums is that one can be expanded for longer periods of time than they would by using their hands. However, those techniques lend themselves oftentimes to expanding more than is necessary without encouraging an increased blood flow at the same time.

Blah, blah, blah. :D Jelqing and kegels are, with the exception of their limitations as far as manual [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] and strength are concerned, the most effective and safest ways to make your penis more able to hold and collect blood in the penis. In the end, engorgement exercises are all about increasing the ability to supply and accept more blood into the penis, or create a pressure differential, which makes the penis "grow" to erection.

Anyway, if you are not seeing gains, even if you weren't jelqing, there is something wrong. Either the intensity (force) or duration of your exercises was not sufficient to induce mitosis. Most likely without knowing your exact routine, it is a matter of duration, because almost everything trendy in the Penis Enlargement world is about producing too much intensity for far too short of a duration. Easiest way to increase "intensity" without increasing the force used is to apply significant heat while performing any exercise to weaken the chemical structure (electrical bonds) and to reduce the tensile strength of the "fibers". Easiest way to increase duration is to either use less force so that you can endure it longer or use a device to apply said force that you can tolerate for as long as possible for you.

Tom


well fuck when you put it like that, i gotta jelq now lol. i think my main problem is that i have a problem sticking with Penis Enlargement for long enough. I guess it's cause i'm used to seeing results in a month of weight lifting, but after a month of Penis Enlargement nothing changes
 
So jelqing is in some ways superior to clamping or partial vacuums because it continually exceeds "normal" peak engorgement while at the same time inducing new blood to enter the "chambers" of the CC and CS while exercising. The advantage of clamping or partial vacuums is that one can be expanded for longer periods of time than they would by using their hands. However, those techniques lend themselves oftentimes to expanding more than is necessary without encouraging an increased blood flow at the same time.

Jelqing is as I have put it in the past the river that feeds the ocean with the ocean being the actual penis. River fits it nicely, a fast flowing river with the blood being effectivly 'milked' through the unit with each stroke. Clamping is a deep wide yet calm river channel but can escalate into a flood! regards to pumping can be said the same.

I feel it incorrect to state the normal peak engorgement is exceeded with jelqing versus clamping because circulation is never EVER stopped or cut off when clamping so the peak engorgement is always allowed to carry on as you kegel right? this in turn sends new fresh blood inside the penis which due to the clamp or whatever tourniquet is used, helps expand and increase the usual size of the penis.

Expanded for longer periods of time is correct but you have forgotten completely the fact I myself perform and advocate users to try clamped jelqing which is truely amazing. The last part of the quote is again not taking into account you do not stop circulation, its never halted otherwise I would agree with you on that score.
 
Red,

Thanks for the clamping perspective. You are obviously well experienced with that technique. (And I encourage all to visit Red's threads in the clamping forum!) I in no way meant to give the impression that clamping was dangerous or ineffective at all and I regret if my wording leads one to that impression.

I was merely pointing out that conventional jelqing allows more blood flow both in and out of the penis while exercising whereas clamping, from what I understand, is more biased towards allowing more blood into the penis while allowing less blood to flow out. (Because of the constant restriction placed more upon the exterior portion of the penis where most blood returns back to the body.) During extended periods, this still does present a limited FLOW overall and less circulation, while it does allow for greater expansion, intensity, or overall pressure differential. Blood cells will approach a hypoxic state if not exchanged at a fast enough rate. Which has a benefit that a lot of people do not talk about often as it relates to the penis. The tissues of the penis react to a hypoxic state by initiating vasodilation as a response to the lowering of oxygen content (and thus pressure as well). This may be one of the reasons that clamping is as effective as it is.

But it is always an honor and enlightening to have a Legend such as yourself add to the discussion. Thanks Red, for being you Brother.

Tom
 
It was very informative what you wrote and you have taught me something - The tissues of the penis react to a hypoxic state by initiating vasodilation as a response to the lowering of oxygen content (and thus pressure as well). This may be one of the reasons that clamping is as effective as it is. You've just explained scientifically why clamping works so well :) I couldn't and this is a first tbh the Hypoxic state being reacted to and hence the vasodilation being kicked in.

Any chance you could take this further and expand more into that area in clamping on the science? Thanks
 
Red,

The topic that you are asking to delve into is rather large, but obviously "everything is out there for those wishing to look for it." I feel like we might hijack this thread if we proceed to deeply. However, I can briefly touch on some things to spark your quest. :D

The statement that you found was "new" is actually very widely known in many fields of medicine. Essentially, clamping serves to initiate a slow progression into localized hypoxia because it allows more blood into the penis while allowing less blood out of the penis. This is why such intensity or pressure differential is possible with that technique. No matter how much blood you force into the clamped penis you are still far below the normal circulation or exchange rate that takes place without the constriction or clamp in place. While you are forcing more and more blood into the clamped penis, you are certainly not anywhere near supplying the same amount of "new" blood that arrives in the normal state. This is what leads to the localized hypoxia...and then the resultant body's defensive reaction.

The defensive reaction of vasodilation is an attempt to increase blood flow into the penis. This is primarily accomplished by a sudden release of histamine by "mast cells" in the tissue under distress. (as well as a release of, or production of, nitric oxide to relax "smooth muscle" tissue...slower process than the histamine release) Anyway, this process is well known. It is most often associated with applying pressure to tissue or even to arteries to cause localized hypoxia with the intent of artificially and "mechanically" inducing vasodilation. "Ischemic compression" is widely used to both cause vasodilation and to cause a large burst of "stored" or "waiting" blood and nutrients to "flush" the area once the force is removed.

Now so that all of this blather is related to this particular thread somehow while still being able to tie in with the above. (But could add to the above with clampers working in what follows) :D As to jelqing and the related and similar reactions to that type of "engorgement" exercise. The forceful "mechanical" movement of the blood into the penis also causes vasodilation. However, the histamine production is even higher for this forced flow versus simply static engorgement, over 120% increase in histamine is achieved during exercise. (It is a very rapid release of histamine instigated by nerves sending impulses to "mast cells" to release this chemical) Furthermore, this elevated histamine level remains for many hours after exercise is stopped.

Furthermore, if one is to stretch at the end of the jelq stroke, which is advisable, this force also adds to the goodies. :D Stretching the tissues has a vasoconstrictive effect. What! That is bad! LOL Yes, for our purposes it is. BUT the vasoconstrictive effect only last as long as the force is applied in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] phase, or stretch. As soon as the force is released, vasodilation again rears its head in response in order to "protect" the cells. The most important part of this "stretching" effect is that the nerves in that area "learn" not to overreact with repetition. What happens, with dedicated and routine practice like all of us Penis Enlargementers practice :), is that every stretch's vasoconstriction effect lasts shorter and shorter and shorter the more normal the stretching becomes. And the icing on the cake? The vasodilation that occurs when the force is removed still happens no matter how short the vasoconstriction duration becomes.

Isn't the human body miraculous? LOL

The Lunatic,

Tom
 
The Jelq is the backbone of most men's first routine. It is the fastest way to create symmetry, create gains, learn the limits of the penis, etc. Much is learned about in the jelq. Most girth exercises I created have largely been based around the jelq. Making the jelq more effective or more isolated is all about varying the technique. I have always told men to start with the jelq until I saw the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. I think both are rudimentary parts of most [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] users.
 
personally I never gained from jelqing and I was doing somewhere around a thousand a day by hand for around 3 months straight. I think I gained maybe a 1/4-3/8 of an inch but stopped and immediately lost it. Then I bought the power jelq gym and did like 1500 a day plus clamped jelqing and had massive expansion but never could keep anything I gained permenantly in the girth department. Not saying it doesnt work just saying it hasnt worked for me and im probally going to start back up anyhow because the theory alone makes sense and if you could just maintain the expansion it would all be worth it
 
Exiled15;478276 said:
personally I never gained from jelqing and I was doing somewhere around a thousand a day by hand for around 3 months straight. I think I gained maybe a 1/4-3/8 of an inch but stopped and immediately lost it. Then I bought the power jelq gym and did like 1500 a day plus clamped jelqing and had massive expansion but never could keep anything I gained permenantly in the girth department. Not saying it doesnt work just saying it hasnt worked for me and im probally going to start back up anyhow because the theory alone makes sense and if you could just maintain the expansion it would all be worth it

How many times did you do it in a week for that 3 months? I'm starting to get nervous about Jelqing, hopefully If I do it for a full straight year I gain at least ½" in length and a little bit of girth cemented.
 
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Juan Strokes;506354 said:
I'm starting to get nervous about Jelqing, hopefully If I do it for a full straight year I gain at least ½" in length and a little bit of girth cemented.


Nothing to fear, if after starting the routine you find that expansion is not happening (length or girth) you can adjust it to a more powerful girth exercise or you could introduce equipment. Every man on Earth can gain, he needs to find what works and not only stick with it but always be looking to bring greater and greater size.
 
Juan Strokes;506354 said:
How many times did you do it in a week for that 3 months? I'm starting to get nervous about Jelqing, hopefully If I do it for a full straight year I gain at least ½" in length and a little bit of girth cemented.

I gained about a full inch in 1 year just from jelqing. It works! :)
 
savageblue;506473 said:
I gained about a full inch in 1 year just from jelqing. It works! :)


Wow, I wonder how much faster it would have been with devices. This is something that is always in the back of my mind because I know that I gained a lot of my size with my hands. I think I would have done it in half the time. Anyway, congratulations on showing the world how it can be done with nothing more than your hands.
 
doublelongdaddy;506540 said:
Wow, I wonder how much faster it would have been with devices. This is something that is always in the back of my mind because I know that I gained a lot of my size with my hands. I think I would have done it in half the time. Anyway, congratulations on showing the world how it can be done with nothing more than your hands.

Thanks! :)

The reason I am such a supporter of jelqing (other than the results I got, of course), is that the first time I ever heard about Penis Enlargement was in a doc. file I downloaded from some guy, even before [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] existed, and, among several simple exercises, I remember the first sentence on Jelqing was "This is the exercise all men swear by".
Throughout the years, it was indeed the exercise I felt most comfortable with and, ever since I decided to keep a consistent routine, it has spoken for itself.
It is, in fact, the very foundation of Penis Enlargement for me.
All the other, more elaborated exercises may be great and may also provide quicker results, but I believe that jelqing tends to be too overlooked.

For me, there's no better exercise than jelqing. It's simple, safe, it feels great, it's painless, it only requires lube, and it is effective. :)
 
I read something similar and have always held the jelq in high regard. At one point the jelq stopped responding to growth for me and needed to invent, new, more powerful versions of the jelq. Still, to this day, the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words] remains supreme for manual girth gains.
 
doublelongdaddy;506756 said:
I read something similar and have always held the jelq in high regard. At one point the jelq stopped responding to growth for me and needed to invent, new, more powerful versions of the jelq. Still, to this day, the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words] remains supreme for manual girth gains.

[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words]? Is that the one where you squeeze the penis against a hard flat surface and jelq it with the palm of your hand?
 
Hey SB,

I have been inspired by you to do more jelqing...it too is my favorite Penis Enlargement for many reasons-temp gains you can see,penis health ,better EQ and gains-you are the proof!

How many minutes does your jelqing routine take? I figure around 40 minutes?

keep up the great work bro!~
savageblue;507172 said:
SlowSquashJelq? Is that the one where you squeeze the penis against a hard flat surface and jelq it with the palm of your hand?
 
Could anyone tell me what Horse Squeeze is for something? I have always wondered what it is, and I can't find it on my M-O-S [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words].
 
Dickleaker;507195 said:
Hey SB,

I have been inspired by you to do more jelqing...it too is my favorite Penis Enlargement for many reasons-temp gains you can see,penis health ,better EQ and gains-you are the proof!

How many minutes does your jelqing routine take? I figure around 40 minutes?

keep up the great work bro!~

Hi, Dickleaker!

Actually, my morning routine (warm-up, jelqing, ballooning, testicle health massage and cool-down) doesn't usually take longer than 30 minutes. And mind you that the testicle health massage and the cool down are performed when I'm already in the shower.
If I sometimes take about 10 minutes at the end of the day to perform some edging, then yes, I'd say a total of 40 minutes is correct.
Although I always have a timer in sight during my routine, I only time the warm-up (2 minutes) and the ballooning (10 x 10 second squeezes). I don't really care much about how long each jelqing stroke lasts, I just do them at a steady pace. :)
 
Thanks bro,

I have been doing 15 minutes daily jelqing and will increase it now every day to get up to around the 30 minute mark.

I also use a timer and don't count like you .
Do you get some nice temporary expansion and length after your session? I find this the most inspiring of all ...to see my cock in the future at its new size! :)
savageblue;507209 said:
Hi, Dickleaker!

Actually, my morning routine (warm-up, jelqing, ballooning, testicle health massage and cool-down) doesn't usually take longer than 30 minutes. And mind you that the testicle health massage and the cool down are performed when I'm already in the shower.
If I sometimes take about 10 minutes at the end of the day to perform some edging, then yes, I'd say a total of 40 minutes is correct.
Although I always have a timer in sight during my routine, I only time the warm-up (2 minutes) and the ballooning (10 x 10 second squeezes). I don't really care much about how long each jelqing stroke lasts, I just do them at a steady pace. :)
 
Dickleaker;507210 said:
Do you get some nice temporary expansion and length after your session? I find this the most inspiring of all ...to see my cock in the future at its new size! :)

Eh, eh, eh! :) I get a nice temporary expansion, indeed, but not so much in length. It's more the semi-hard and soft girths that get really nice.

The only moment when I can trully see my actual best length is either while edging or when I'm with my girlfriend. :)

One of the best post-workout feelings for me is the weight of the penis. It feels really full, even when it's hanging. It doesn't last long though, but the erect results matter the most for me rofl
 
MartinGlad;507196 said:
Could anyone tell me what Horse Squeeze is for something? I have always wondered what it is, and I can't find it on my M-O-S [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words].


The Horse440 squeeze is a very primitive squeeze type jelq....In my opinion the Slow Squash Jelq supersedes it in every way.
 
I know what you mean ...when I get a BJ the sucking gives me my best erect length .

Thanks again for inspiring me to up my jelqing time ...how long would you estimate gaining an inch in erect length at 30 minutes of jelqing a day plus manuals?

savageblue;507235 said:
Eh, eh, eh! :) I get a nice temporary expansion, indeed, but not so much in length. It's more the semi-hard and soft girths that get really nice.

The only moment when I can trully see my actual best length is either while edging or when I'm with my girlfriend. :)

One of the best post-workout feelings for me is the weight of the penis. It feels really full, even when it's hanging. It doesn't last long though, but the erect results matter the most for me rofl
 
irspow;478225 said:
Red,

The topic that you are asking to delve into is rather large, but obviously "everything is out there for those wishing to look for it." I feel like we might hijack this thread if we proceed to deeply. However, I can briefly touch on some things to spark your quest. :D

The statement that you found was "new" is actually very widely known in many fields of medicine. Essentially, clamping serves to initiate a slow progression into localized hypoxia because it allows more blood into the penis while allowing less blood out of the penis. This is why such intensity or pressure differential is possible with that technique. No matter how much blood you force into the clamped penis you are still far below the normal circulation or exchange rate that takes place without the constriction or clamp in place. While you are forcing more and more blood into the clamped penis, you are certainly not anywhere near supplying the same amount of "new" blood that arrives in the normal state. This is what leads to the localized hypoxia...and then the resultant body's defensive reaction.

The defensive reaction of vasodilation is an attempt to increase blood flow into the penis. This is primarily accomplished by a sudden release of histamine by "mast cells" in the tissue under distress. (as well as a release of, or production of, nitric oxide to relax "smooth muscle" tissue...slower process than the histamine release) Anyway, this process is well known. It is most often associated with applying pressure to tissue or even to arteries to cause localized hypoxia with the intent of artificially and "mechanically" inducing vasodilation. "Ischemic compression" is widely used to both cause vasodilation and to cause a large burst of "stored" or "waiting" blood and nutrients to "flush" the area once the force is removed.

Now so that all of this blather is related to this particular thread somehow while still being able to tie in with the above. (But could add to the above with clampers working in what follows) :D As to jelqing and the related and similar reactions to that type of "engorgement" exercise. The forceful "mechanical" movement of the blood into the penis also causes vasodilation. However, the histamine production is even higher for this forced flow versus simply static engorgement, over 120% increase in histamine is achieved during exercise. (It is a very rapid release of histamine instigated by nerves sending impulses to "mast cells" to release this chemical) Furthermore, this elevated histamine level remains for many hours after exercise is stopped.

Furthermore, if one is to stretch at the end of the jelq stroke, which is advisable, this force also adds to the goodies. :D Stretching the tissues has a vasoconstrictive effect. What! That is bad! LOL Yes, for our purposes it is. BUT the vasoconstrictive effect only last as long as the force is applied in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] phase, or stretch. As soon as the force is released, vasodilation again rears its head in response in order to "protect" the cells. The most important part of this "stretching" effect is that the nerves in that area "learn" not to overreact with repetition. What happens, with dedicated and routine practice like all of us Penis Enlargementers practice :), is that every stretch's vasoconstriction effect lasts shorter and shorter and shorter the more normal the stretching becomes. And the icing on the cake? The vasodilation that occurs when the force is removed still happens no matter how short the vasoconstriction duration becomes.

Isn't the human body miraculous? LOL

The Lunatic,

Tom


Interesting, how do you think the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] works for making your penis huge in growth? thanks
 
Dickleaker;507442 said:
I know what you mean ...when I get a BJ the sucking gives me my best erect length .

Thanks again for inspiring me to up my jelqing time ...how long would you estimate gaining an inch in erect length at 30 minutes of jelqing a day plus manuals?

You're welcome :)

Well, if you do 30 minutes of jelqing every day, if you're able to maintain a steady routine, if your body responds consistently to the exercises, if you maintain a healthy enough lifestyle, if you're careful about what you eat and drink... I would over-estimate that it would take you about 10-12 months to get a full inch in erect bone pressed length. That's a lot of "ifs", I know. On the other hand, if you add the manuals (I'm not quite sure what you mean by that, but I'm guessing your talking about stretching), you'll probably get that extra inch sooner. :)
This is, of course, based on my experience. At one time, I was gaining about 2 mm/0.08" per month, hence my calculations.
It may seem like a whole year is too much time, but trust me, when you look back at where you were 1 year before, you'll still smile when looking down at your larger dick. :)
 
Thanks for the break down man.

I have been consistent with all those what ifs in the past and am choosing this routine because it fits with my lifestyle-I don't have 8 hours to sit around anymore with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] strapped onto my dick :)

Yes the manuals I speak of are stretches for roughly 20 to 25 minutes per day with the 30 minutes of jelqing.

Been at Penis Enlargement now for 2 years with some good gains and know this routine will bring me to my goals and on top of that I love jelqing!!!

best to you Savage in everything especially your Penis Enlargement!


savageblue;507622 said:
You're welcome :)

Well, if you do 30 minutes of jelqing every day, if you're able to maintain a steady routine, if your body responds consistently to the exercises, if you maintain a healthy enough lifestyle, if you're careful about what you eat and drink... I would over-estimate that it would take you about 10-12 months to get a full inch in erect bone pressed length. That's a lot of "ifs", I know. On the other hand, if you add the manuals (I'm not quite sure what you mean by that, but I'm guessing your talking about stretching), you'll probably get that extra inch sooner. :)
This is, of course, based on my experience. At one time, I was gaining about 2 mm/0.08" per month, hence my calculations.
It may seem like a whole year is too much time, but trust me, when you look back at where you were 1 year before, you'll still smile when looking down at your larger dick. :)
 
Dickleaker;507823 said:
Thanks for the break down man.

I have been consistent with all those what ifs in the past and am choosing this routine because it fits with my lifestyle-I don't have 8 hours to sit around anymore with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] strapped onto my dick :)

Yes the manuals I speak of are stretches for roughly 20 to 25 minutes per day with the 30 minutes of jelqing.

Been at Penis Enlargement now for 2 years with some good gains and know this routine will bring me to my goals and on top of that I love jelqing!!!

best to you Savage in everything especially your Penis Enlargement!

No problem, Dickleaker. rofl and thanks.

Enjoy your progress!
 
Dickleaker;507823 said:
TYes the manuals I speak of are stretches for roughly 20 to 25 minutes per day with the 30 minutes of jelqing.


Someone was complaining about how it cost so much money to do Penis Enlargement...How much does the above cost you?
 
In my personal case, all the costs I need to count are:

- baby oil bottles;
- water for the warm-up/cool-down;
- gas to heat up the water.

So it comes up pretty cheap to enlarge one's cock. :)

Oh, wait, let me take that back. There's a huge (pun intended) "downside" to it. The XL condoms you'll need to start buying are more expensive than the regular ones :P
 
Depending on what lube you use for jelqing...in my case ,shea butter cost me about $10 for 2 months supply.

That breaks down to 0.16 cents per day:)
doublelongdaddy;507928 said:
Someone was complaining about how it cost so much money to do Penis Enlargement...How much does the above cost you?
 
We have a crazy, unbelievable, super-duper, jelqing lube coming out. I used it the other day and I was really taken back. I did not think vaseline could be improved upon but I have to say, the herbalist who put this together is brilliant.
 
I have to testify in favour of the jelq.

I have never stuck with a routine long enough to get more than temporary gains (jelqing every day for 3 weeks was the only occasion) but this is the most fun and versatile exercise which is also very versatile as evidenced by clamped jelqing and the most intense manual exercise (by quite a margin), slow squash jelqing.

It's also a hell of a lot of fun and can be done dry which i think gives it that added intensity.
 
Jelqing is the foundation of Penis Enlargement. The Jelq is the fastest and easiest way to understand girth work. There are exercises that are far better than the Jelq but it is important to master the Jelq before moving on. In many cases, for advanced men going through a plateau, I will suggest going back to basics and start with the Jelq again. It kind of gives the user a clean sheet of paper to work from, a place to get your priorities back in order and start gaining again.
 
doublelongdaddy;518285 said:
We have a crazy, unbelievable, super-duper, jelqing lube coming out. I used it the other day and I was really taken back. I did not think vaseline could be improved upon but I have to say, the herbalist who put this together is brilliant.

silicone lube works awesome. its water proof too so you can use it in the shower or tub and still jelq.
 
my girth is already 6 so i dont really exclusively jelq very often. i do it most often as part of an edging routine/long intense jerk off session. usually after ive been stretching for awhile and it starts to get to hard to stretch effectively then i move on and get to it :)

i really dont want to gain more girth, just length. ive gotten back into stretching everyday and im seeing some results.
 
b.d.d.;518985 said:
my girth is already 6 so i dont really exclusively jelq very often. i do it most often as part of an edging routine/long intense jerk off session. usually after ive been stretching for awhile and it starts to get to hard to stretch effectively then i move on and get to it :)

i really dont want to gain more girth, just length. ive gotten back into stretching everyday and im seeing some results.

At six inches you don't need to worry too much!:)
 
I have been erect wet jelqing for about 2 months and never pulled out the ruler until today, I was very happy to see a 3/8 inch gain in length. This has come after about a year and a half being stuck at the same length and having initial gains of 3/4". My routine is one 10 minute session per week in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] and 30 minutes of jelqing, followed by daily jelqing of 30-45 minutes. Best of all, aside from the one day that I use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], I have amazing morning wood. That one session on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] seems to give me expansion that stays with me for several days. My problem with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] is that I have a terrible EQ for at least 24 hours after using it. Coconut oil is so awesome and lasts the whole session.
 
teeker1;642193 said:
I have been erect wet jelqing for about 2 months and never pulled out the ruler until today, I was very happy to see a 3/8 inch gain in length.

Congratulations! What an awesome gain after being so patient!
 
teeker1;642193 said:
I have been erect wet jelqing for about 2 months and never pulled out the ruler until today, I was very happy to see a 3/8 inch gain in length. This has come after about a year and a half being stuck at the same length and having initial gains of 3/4". My routine is one 10 minute session per week in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] and 30 minutes of jelqing, followed by daily jelqing of 30-45 minutes. Best of all, aside from the one day that I use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], I have amazing morning wood. That one session on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] seems to give me expansion that stays with me for several days. My problem with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] is that I have a terrible EQ for at least 24 hours after using it. Coconut oil is so awesome and lasts the whole session.

yup jelqs are awesome, I love seeing how thick I get
 
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