Interesting... I've been on the newbie workout for about a week, but time and privacy have been a factor for me and don't think I'll be able to keep up with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]. I'm going to go ahead and give score's routine a try starting tommorrow (I can't wait 2-3 months) except I'll be doing it every other day (15 days a month) 100 jelqs, and an ice cold wrap instead of a cold shower. I have 2 months to burn, I'm in no real rush to get my penis big well atleast not yet. If I gain atleast half an inch in 2 months from this routine I'll consider it a success and stick to it. I'll report back with the results. One quick question though before I start, how important is a hot wrap warm down, is it really needed? Might it be possible to injure myself without it, is substituting cold for hot a bad idea?