the art of growth enhancing fatigue management

What I actually do not like about jelqing is that it takes too much time. I followed a routine that I thought of myself, which was pretty intense. It was basically jelqing supersetted with some exercises I thought of (good ones). My session would usually last between an hour and an hour and a half (only hands using- this means that there is no "sit back and let it pump/clamp") and damn I started hating this . I don't really hate it, but if I didn't lose my EQ every 40 jelqs or so it'd be MUCh easier

Yea they kill your sensitivity, hurt your hands, take forever to do, and for me personally, didn't give shit for a pump. Where as an hour of clamping leaves my dick looking like a beast haha

That's weird. I had the same exact experience but with length and put it in my progress thread. I was at 8.65 inches BPenis EnlargementL, took 2 weeks off while visiting family, and I was at 8.75 when I got back because of the improved EQ. I don't think that it necessarily HELPS with gains, but it does seem to help EQ which in turn helps with MEASUREMENTS not overall gains. Now that I'm back in my normal routine, my BPenis EnlargementL is back to 8.65.

ShadedSam;574296 said:

That's weird. I had the same exact experience but with length and put it in my progress thread. I was at 8.65 inches BPenis EnlargementL, took 2 weeks off while visiting family, and I was at 8.75 when I got back because of the improved EQ. I don't think that it necessarily HELPS with gains, but it does seem to help EQ which in turn helps with MEASUREMENTS not overall gains. Now that I'm back in my normal routine, my BPenis EnlargementL is back to 8.65.

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One of these days I'll be your size. I'm determined. Except I'm 5'10 and 140 so it'll look waaaaay bigger on me haha. You're one lucky bastard

ShadedSam;574296 said:

That's weird. I had the same exact experience but with length and put it in my progress thread. I was at 8.65 inches BPenis EnlargementL, took 2 weeks off while visiting family, and I was at 8.75 when I got back because of the improved EQ. I don't think that it necessarily HELPS with gains, but it does seem to help EQ which in turn helps with MEASUREMENTS not overall gains. Now that I'm back in my normal routine, my BPenis EnlargementL is back to 8.65.

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This will be more related to length than girth though because girth is more constant regardless of EQ. Now with girth if you have more rest days and get better EQ then you will have more blood available in the penis to exercise which equals better expansion which equals more gains.

superman05xx;574300 said:

This will be more related to length than girth though because girth is more constant regardless of EQ. Now with girth if you have more rest days and get better EQ then you will have more blood available in the penis to exercise which equals better expansion which equals more gains.

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Both propositions contradict each other, don't they? apart from this it seems to me that an improved EQ affects both length and girth measurements (while doesn't affect length training per se).
Nonetheless, I can state for my case that girth stayed while length hasn't changed through the last weeks (before and after the break), though my EQ naturally lessened again. The latter aspect one big fuck up of the whole Penis Enlargement thing imo. But that's another story.

Satyr;574301 said:

Both propositions contradict each other, don't they? apart from this it seems to me that an improved EQ affects both length and girth measurements (while doesn't affect length training per se).
Nonetheless, I can state for my case that girth stayed while length hasn't changed through the last weeks (before and after the break), though my EQ naturally lessened again. The latter aspect one big fuck up of the whole Penis Enlargement thing imo. But that's another story.

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Nah, it made sense to me I mean my girth is the same for real no matter what my EQ is as long as a have a full erection without really notiible differences. I was saying though if u had better EQ that means more blood would be available in ur penis (lengthwise) which means you can get a better girth workout.

superman05xx;574304 said:

Nah, it made sense to me I mean my girth is the same for real no matter what my EQ is as long as a have a full erection without really notiible differences. I was saying though if u had better EQ that means more blood would be available in ur penis (lengthwise) which means you can get a better girth workout.

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As I understand a deficient EQ is usually supposed to be thought of as a suBathmateaximal level of blood circulation in the penis while being erect, which is what you also seem to suggest. Therefore one would have to conclude that your erect penis is softer than he would be under optimal conditions, thus not allowing to be considered as "fully" erect. But I think I see where you are coming from because like you I'm normally also with lessened EQ able to get to max blood circ. level and to measure the expected inches. But for once it's more difficult to get there and moreover it's even more difficult to hold that level upright for an extended time line. Is that what you're saying? If it is we should clarify the def. of a "bad" EQ as appearing in different variations.

But still - at least intuitively (never checked it) I would disagree with your assumption that length is not affected proportionally to girth, i.e. measurements of the two measures relatively differ from each other under the same conditions. ok, to make it more K.I.S.S. : given a certain EQ level, you should also measure your usual length if you are able to measure your usual girth.

I don't know how related this is to the topic, but talkin about EQ I often get erections that show all the girth I have, but 0.5 lower than my actual 100% EQ lerect length...

Satyr;574305 said:

As I understand a deficient EQ is usually supposed to be thought of as a suBathmateaximal level of blood circulation in the penis while being erect, which is what you also seem to suggest. Therefore one would have to conclude that your erect penis is softer than he would be under optimal conditions, thus not allowing to be considered as "fully" erect. But I think I see where you are coming from because like you I'm normally also with lessened EQ able to get to max blood circ. level and to measure the expected inches. But for once it's more difficult to get there and moreover it's even more difficult to hold that level upright for an extended time line. Is that what you're saying? If it is we should clarify the def. of a "bad" EQ as appearing in different variations.

But still - at least intuitively (never checked it) I would disagree with your assumption that length is not affected proportionally to girth, i.e. measurements of the two measures relatively differ from each other under the same conditions. ok, to make it more K.I.S.S. : given a certain EQ level, you should also measure your usual length if you are able to measure your usual girth.

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I think we are both over thinking this.

I replied to this: “That's weird. I had the same exact experience but with length and put it in my progress thread. I was at 8.65 inches BPenis EnlargementL, took 2 weeks off while visiting family, and I was at 8.75 when I got back because of the improved EQ. I don't think that it necessarily HELPS with gains, but it does seem to help EQ which in turn helps with MEASUREMENTS not overall gains. Now that I'm back in my normal routine, my BPenis EnlargementL is back to 8.65.”

And my basic response was that I didn’t think your statement where you said, “Though there was the usual temporary expansion I wasn't able to grow a damn tenth of an inch to get to 6, I was stuck at 5,9. So this is a quite exciting and motivating achievement,” was the result of improved erection quality.

The erection quality I am comparing is a fully erect but Penis Enlargemented the day before penis versus a nine days rested (from Penis Enlargement) raging hard on penis. I have gained girth size recently and have had both of the EQs I mentioned above and the difference for me isn’t noticeable.

All I am saying relative to fully erect but Penis Enlargemented the day before penis versus a nine days rested (from Penis Enlargement) raging hard on penis is that the extra length (raging hard on) means that there is more blood in the penis (length wise) and since there is more blood it can be pushed around girth wise.

All in all I believe intense girth work requires more rest time (or cialis) for healing and growth. I believe we were both in the situation of overtraining where we healed enough to do our next workout; however, the penis never had time to “overheal” or overcompensate for the load placed on it (like bodybuilding).

ok, now I got you, thanks for clarifying. But the fact that you and Zam both experienced a reduced length with an erect-Penis Enlargement-dick really puzzles me. wouldn't have expected that because I can't remember to have measured more length after the break.

Satyr;574310 said:

ok, now I got you, thanks for clarifying. But the fact that you and Zam both experienced a reduced length with an erect-Penis Enlargement-dick really puzzles me. wouldn't have expected that because I can't remember to have measured more length after the break.

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It puzzles both of us.

superman05xx;574308 said:

All in all I believe intense girth work requires more rest time (or cialis) for healing and growth. I believe we were both in the situation of overtraining where we healed enough to do our next workout; however, the penis never had time to “overheal” or overcompensate for the load placed on it (like bodybuilding).

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I've heard you don't want the body to super-compensate during it's healing process due to the possibilities of forming scar tissue in the ligs, versus stretching them out. What do you think?

I stretch everyday, the newbie routine, and after about 6-7 days of continual stretching, I start to get really sore in my ligs and due to the intense soreness I can't stretch as hard, however, it also doesn't feel like I need to apply as much force into my stretching when in this fatigued state. There's a definite fine line between overtraining and healthy Penis Enlargement.

Keep in mind that we're strictly talking girth here, not length. I believe that you can't really overdo it with the stretching with respect to the volume (only in terms of intensity).

That's a good point, Superman. Girth work may require more rest since you need to be able to get very hard to get a good workout. I still think that people should be careful of rest days though. Especially if they're not REALLY rest days and it is really just you making an excuse because you're to lazy to do your workouts. I think that satyr's idea of doing 1 week off every 6 weeks wouldn't hurt as long as you stick to it and don't let the 1 week turn into a month/year lol. However, with length, I'm not taking a break until I hit 10 inches

dmoney101;574298 said:

One of these days I'll be your size. I'm determined. Except I'm 5'10 and 140 so it'll look waaaaay bigger on me haha. You're one lucky bastard

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Thanks bro
Are you trying to catch up with me, or be the size that I am now? Because if you're trying to catch up you'll have to go for 10 inches lol. I'll race you though. What size are you now? We can see who can grow 1 inch the fastest I'm aiming for .1 inches a month, but I doubt I'll achieve it.

At first I wanted to just be 8 x 6 but then I realized, I won't be content until I put every �naked people movies� star to shame . I'd be cool with a 9 incher that actually got hard though. I'm starting at 7 and I'm about a month in. We'll see how my gains go. I wish I could get those 2 inches like dld claimed from his newbie routine lol

After a 40-days-loading phase in a 2on/1off-rhytHydromax I'm on a hiat now since last friday and won't resume workout before coming friday. Let's see what happens. I'll keep you posted.

I agree with DLD; always make sure to give your penis time to rest. Plus make sure you take blood flow supplements while resting.

Which supps do you have in mind?