sasquatch;388461 said:
SigSaurer, yes the two pieces of tubing are what keeps the rods in place.

The two basic principles that are thought to be responsible for the ROP's purported effects are the low voltage DC galvanic current that is produced between the zinc and copper rods stimulating the Leydig cells of the testicles and the possibility of zinc ions being transfered into the testicles for increased testosterone production.

There should be no estrogen related issues with the ROP. Most estrogen problems that men develop are the result of excessive aromatase activity. Aromatase is an enzyme the turns testosterone into estrogen. Zinc is a powerful aromatase inhibitor.

Google "copper zinc battery", "electrochemical cell", "galvanic copper zinc cell" for the scientific principles of the two metals producing voltage current and ion exchange.

Tons of help! Thanks sasquatch.

Which leads to my next question... DLD, you selling these yet? :)
 
I'd love to see the actual blood work documentation from your doctor or endocrinologist. Guys on bodybuilder forums I frequent have no problem showing these documents when talking about their blood hormone levels ;) I'm just trying to see some proof of concept here. I've seen the 'claims' over the years for this stuff....but no proof.

Ancedotal evidence like more facial or body hair...is not really proof of anything. Actual blood test results showing an increase in blood hormone levels (free testosterone for ex) IS proof. Of course, a guy would need to have documentations of BOTH a lower level of blood hormones before using this device as well as the documentation showing an increase in blood hormone levels after having worn this device for a period of time.

I've yet to see such documentation....even from Supra.

Yea, none of the guys in this thread...even the OP claiming he supposedly had results from his doctor....none actually produced a picture of these supposed results. Until that is seen, I'm chalking this all up to hearsay.
 
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It was me and it was a long time ago, but the results aren't falsified. I will try to look back and see if I still have the paperwork. its from two different docs. My family doc did the first bloodwork and the endocrinologist did the second blood test. I got out of Penis Enlargement for a while and lost the ROP along the way, but at the time I thought it was a good thing. Maybe a little too excited, but my sex drive was down and then it came back. It made for a very excited higherone. Lol.
 
higherone;388545 said:
It was me and it was a long time ago, but the results aren't falsified.

I don't think he is suggesting that, only to see some good proof to help other guys make wise decisions.
 
Well, I ordered one. It should be here in the next few days. Let's see if this stuff works. If not, oh well it was only $30.
 
The ROP should've been here by now, but nothing. I emailed the guy and haven't gotten one back. If I don't hear from him by Friday, I am getting paypal to get my money back.
 
Well I opened a claim with PayPal and the supplier is sending a new ROP in the mail. The first one must've gotten lost in the postal maze, but he notified and I got a confirmation email the 27th. Should be here very soon!
 
Yay! My ROP just arrived. I fitted it and got it on the goods. Time to see if this really works!
 
Get blood hormone tests done, scan them, post them here, then again 8 weeks later to see if it really works as claimed. ;)
 
doublelongdaddy;387754 said:
We will be carrying the ROP and parts to make it. The discount site is almost ready so maybe a week to go.

Any word on this? I'd love to make one, and getting the correct parts in one place would be kick ass.
 
I just got mine the other day and after 24 hours I have a fucking burn mark on my dick. So I switched to wearing it on the sides, it doesn't feel as active as before, but my balls are still hanging nice and low all the time so it's still doing something. I had my T checked a couple weeks ago but don't know the number yet, it will be interesting to see what changes.
 
I had my testosterone tested a few weeks ago and it came back as 397. The doctor said it would probably do me good if we could bring it up some. I've been having severe muscle fatigue and some pain. When I work out I pretty much have no strength increases or growth. I had a full blood panel done including several STD test. Everything came back normal and negative. Just the somewhat low T. Insurance won't approve any HRT. Not that i really wanted to go that route but... if it would make me feel better. So I've started wearing the ROP. And have been taking maca. I'm supposed to go back to the doc in June. I'll have my T tested again and post results. I'll see if I can get copies of the paper work.
Something i've noticed so far is my sack hangs lower now. It usually stays up tight. So that's a plus to me.
 
ru_ready;423564 said:
I had my testosterone tested a few weeks ago and it came back as 397. The doctor said it would probably do me good if we could bring it up some. I've been having severe muscle fatigue and some pain. When I work out I pretty much have no strength increases or growth. I had a full blood panel done including several STD test. Everything came back normal and negative. Just the somewhat low T. Insurance won't approve any HRT. Not that i really wanted to go that route but... if it would make me feel better. So I've started wearing the ROP. And have been taking maca. I'm supposed to go back to the doc in June. I'll have my T tested again and post results. I'll see if I can get copies of the paper work.
Something i've noticed so far is my sack hangs lower now. It usually stays up tight. So that's a plus to me.

According to Supra your T levels will rise due to the ROP, this will be a good test though. You know where you are and when you get new testing you will be able to tell how effective the ROP really is.
 
I guarantee doctor prescribed, low dose testosterone would work better than this gimmick device would. Just sayin'
 
Well I don't really want to replace my testosterone with injections or gels. I don't want my nuts to shrink.
 
ru_ready;423802 said:
Well I don't really want to replace my testosterone with injections or gels. I don't want my nuts to shrink.

Give the ROP a chance, it may help and they only cost like $5 to make.
 
ru_ready;423802 said:
Well I don't really want to replace my testosterone with injections or gels. I don't want my nuts to shrink.

Actually, and contrary to what most men don't seem to know, MOST men by the age of JUST 30 begin to slow on natural testosterone production. So, why do you want to try the ROP in the first place? If if it DID work, you say you "dont want my nuts to shrink"....you do realize anytime you mess with your naturally functioning hormones, you run the risk of throwing them out of balance right? Bottom line...not just for you, but any man is to only mess with your hormones under the supervision of an endocrinologist.
 
Well the doctor was going to put me on injections but my insurance won't cover it because my T is not below 300. So if the doctor was already going to put me on something that was going to mess with my natural T why not try something that could possibly help my body increase my natural T.
 
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