Losing EQ/Penis feels weird

pdevil · Aug 23, 2014

Hey there,

in my second attempt of PE I've been doing manual stretches and wearing the Phallosan Forte 16-20 hours a day for about 3 weeks now.
Additionally I did some Bathmate pumping with SSJ's inbetween, and a bit of expressive Bathmate stretches.
I got some nice expansion from the Bathmate sessions (1/2"-3/4"), but during and after the sessions EQ always went down... I edged afterwards for 30 minutes or so, and to achieve/keep an erection (which was still only at 90%), I needed lots of manual work. This would become better after a day or two without pumping.
But for the last few days, after noticing some small gains in BPFSL, there seems to be a different problem. When I try to get an erection, the penis will start to become engorged, but not really hard, and it almost seems like the very base of my dick is very, very thin and too weak to hold the engorged penis up.
Just now I remember that the exact same problem made me stop my attempts at PE last year.

Is this a common problem? Will it go away? Should I continue training or take a break? Any suggestions?

I'm thankful for any advice.

DLD · Aug 23, 2014

pdevil;600652 said:
Hey there,

in my second attempt of PE I've been doing manual stretches and wearing the Phallosan Forte 16-20 hours a day for about 3 weeks now.
Additionally I did some Bathmate pumping with SSJ's inbetween, and a bit of expressive Bathmate stretches.
I got some nice expansion from the Bathmate sessions (1/2"-3/4"), but during and after the sessions EQ always went down... I edged afterwards for 30 minutes or so, and to achieve/keep an erection (which was still only at 90%), I needed lots of manual work. This would become better after a day or two without pumping.
But for the last few days, after noticing some small gains in BPFSL, there seems to be a different problem. When I try to get an erection, the penis will start to become engorged, but not really hard, and it almost seems like the very base of my dick is very, very thin and too weak to hold the engorged penis up.
Just now I remember that the exact same problem made me stop my attempts at PE last year.
Is this a common problem? Will it go away? Should I continue training or take a break? Any suggestions?

I'm thankful for any advice.

The base of the penis is easily built up by heavy downward stretching, hanging or LengthMaster use. It is strange that stretching would effect the base but in every case it does. You may also be experiencing some fatigue from your workouts which will improve as you go on. Are you separating your length workouts from the girth workouts?

youknowme123321 · Aug 23, 2014

i recommend keeping up your training. you will adapt to it. make sure you arent pumping for to long of sessions or to high intensity. doing those things was the only thing that ever decreased my EQ doing PE. start slow and work your way up to high intensity

pdevil · Aug 23, 2014

doublelongdaddy;600662 said:
The base of the penis is easily built up by heavy downward stretching, hanging or LengthMaster use. It is strange that stretching would effect the base but in every case it does. You may also be experiencing some fatigue from your workouts which will improve as you go on. Are you separating your length workouts from the girth workouts?

Thanks for the quick reply!
I'm doing most of the length workouts spread over the whole day (taking 10-15 minute bathroom breaks at work). Girth workout I do in the late evening or night time. Should length and girth be separated more?
I hope it's only fatigue, but the feeling is a bit frightening.
So if I do more downward stretching the base should become bigger? Will it also make it stronger?
I just received the Legthmaster btw.

pdevil · Aug 23, 2014

youknowme123321;600667 said:
i recommend keeping up your training. you will adapt to it. make sure you arent pumping for to long of sessions or to high intensity. doing those things was the only thing that ever decreased my EQ doing PE. start slow and work your way up to high intensity

Thanks, maybe I went a little bit too intense with the pumping as it felt really good to see the temporary expansion. I hope you're right and I just have to adapt to the training.

Italianoinsg · Aug 26, 2014

try to do alternate workout 1 day on 1 day off and see if your dick respond better. Sometimes less is better. Some pple can train everyday like DLD and SUPRA I personally could not. Listen to your body and give it rest days. they are important as far as my body is made.

pdevil;600652 said:
Hey there,

in my second attempt of PE I've been doing manual stretches and wearing the Phallosan Forte 16-20 hours a day for about 3 weeks now.
Additionally I did some Bathmate pumping with SSJ's inbetween, and a bit of expressive Bathmate stretches.
I got some nice expansion from the Bathmate sessions (1/2"-3/4"), but during and after the sessions EQ always went down... I edged afterwards for 30 minutes or so, and to achieve/keep an erection (which was still only at 90%), I needed lots of manual work. This would become better after a day or two without pumping.
But for the last few days, after noticing some small gains in BPFSL, there seems to be a different problem. When I try to get an erection, the penis will start to become engorged, but not really hard, and it almost seems like the very base of my dick is very, very thin and too weak to hold the engorged penis up.
Just now I remember that the exact same problem made me stop my attempts at PE last year.
Is this a common problem? Will it go away? Should I continue training or take a break? Any suggestions?

I'm thankful for any advice.

youknowme123321 · Aug 26, 2014

pdevil;600682 said:
Thanks, maybe I went a little bit too intense with the pumping as it felt really good to see the temporary expansion. I hope you're right and I just have to adapt to the training.

this happened to me to...i only had EQ problems the first time i started using my BM. i was just overdoing it. i took my time and adapted to the new training and now it only improves my EQ. it has made my penis stronger once I began taking my time and not going to hard to soon. It seems this will happen for you as well b.c your EQ would improve after a couple days. take some time off from pumping. get back into and cut the time in half. PE isn't about the results you can get in one session. we have all learned it is what you can get from months of training...and it pays off

dmoney101 · Aug 26, 2014

Are you doing a kegel routine?

pdevil · Aug 27, 2014

Thanks for the replies, guys!

After three days of not pumping things seemed to be normal again. I did a pump session yesterday morning, and even though it wasn't very intense or long, got some fluid retention and a soft feeling erection in the evening. So I'm taking a break from pumping today. Maybe 1 day on, 1 day off is the way to go for me at the moment.
I do a couple of hundred short kegels throughout the day, but maybe that's not enough?
However, when I did tried too hard with kegels in the past, I also seemed to have a harder time of holding a good erection on the same day. Does this make any sense?

dmoney101 · Aug 27, 2014

That's plenty of kegels. If you do so many that it becomes hard to get a good erection, it's because you've worked your PC muscle near exhaustion.

youknowme123321 · Aug 27, 2014

pdevil;601417 said:
Thanks for the replies, guys!
After three days of not pumping things seemed to be normal again. I did a pump session yesterday morning, and even though it wasn't very intense or long, got some fluid retention and a soft feeling erection in the evening. So I'm taking a break from pumping today. Maybe 1 day on, 1 day off is the way to go for me at the moment.
I do a couple of hundred short kegels throughout the day, but maybe that's not enough?
However, when I did tried too hard with kegels in the past, I also seemed to have a harder time of holding a good erection on the same day. Does this make any sense?

try to vary your kegel routine a bit. sometimes squeeze and hold for 5 seconds. sometime rapid fire kegels. go back and forth between a kegel and reverse kegel...many variations to be done

DLD · Aug 27, 2014

pdevil;600680 said:
Thanks for the quick reply!
I'm doing most of the length workouts spread over the whole day (taking 10-15 minute bathroom breaks at work). Girth workout I do in the late evening or night time. Should length and girth be separated more?
I hope it's only fatigue, but the feeling is a bit frightening.
So if I do more downward stretching the base should become bigger? Will it also make it stronger?
I just received the Legthmaster btw.

I like to keep girth and length in different sessions. Girth requires much more focus than length and I am able to concentrate better at night so girth has always been a nightly project while length I can do at anytime so I would try to get my main session in the morning and then try to get in as much as I can during the day.

pdevil · Aug 28, 2014

Okay, thanks, I'll try varying my kegels more.

DLD, it seems we're having a similar approach for girth then.

I'll let you know, if things get better or become worse...

DLD · Aug 28, 2014

pdevil;601621 said:
Okay, thanks, I'll try varying my kegels more.

DLD, it seems we're having a similar approach for girth then.

I'll let you know, if things get better or become worse...

I will pray for your speedy recovery!

pdevil · Sep 16, 2014

Thank you DLD, much appreciated!

I had to take a bit of a break. Only did manual stretches and tried wearing the phallosan as much as possible.
So I didn't make any gains so far, just a bit in BPFSL.
Yesterday I had my first real bathmate session after the break with SSJs before and in between. Afterwards I wore a clamp (not too tight). I had some great expansion (from 5.25 inches to 6.25), unfortunately with some fluid retention as my last bathmate session was longer than 5 minutes.
But my erection quality was quite good and I kept edging for an hour, so I think I'm getting closer to finding a suitable way of doing girth work.

If everything goes well, I'll try to use the lengthmaster and sizegenetics for length soon.

samuriajack · Sep 16, 2014

make sure to do some erect work after your flacid streching for eq purposes

DLD · Sep 16, 2014

pdevil;606026 said:
Thank you DLD, much appreciated!
I had to take a bit of a break. Only did manual stretches and tried wearing the phallosan as much as possible.
So I didn't make any gains so far, just a bit in BPFSL.
Yesterday I had my first real bathmate session after the break with SSJs before and in between. Afterwards I wore a clamp (not too tight). I had some great expansion (from 5.25 inches to 6.25), unfortunately with some fluid retention as my last bathmate session was longer than 5 minutes.
But my erection quality was quite good and I kept edging for an hour, so I think I'm getting closer to finding a suitable way of doing girth work.

If everything goes well, I'll try to use the lengthmaster and sizegenetics for length soon.

Glad you are back and that BathMate session sound like the shit! That much expansion is just incredible, keep that going and the girth gains will pack on.

dmoney101 · Sep 16, 2014

The BM gives ridiculous expansion. I know I gain at least an inch in girth on top of a few cm in length whenever I'm pumped at high pressure.

DLD · Sep 17, 2014

dmoney101;606161 said:
The BM gives ridiculous expansion. I know I gain at least an inch in girth on top of a few cm in length whenever I'm pumped at high pressure.

SO happy you won this prize and are putting it to use, I wish you tyne fastest gains Brother!

dmoney101 · Sep 17, 2014

It makes me actually want to post picture of the "after" results, but I have so many tattoos that anybody I know who saw it would instantly know it was me on here lol.

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