clamping, controlled priapism, megallophallus discussion thread

[REDZULU2003]

Any more updates on this? I thought of this idea a long time ago and tried it out a few times, but could never stay hard long enough. If I had access to cialis or viagra I'd probably give it a try.

Also, any pics of after the routine?

Also, I'm curious as to how big you are red zulu? I've seen you state some incredible gains, but never seen a size. What's your girth? Do you have pics?

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?50139-2002-2006-Changes

 

[stillwantmore]

Priapism & Megalophallus, Weak Knowledge Base In Community, ETC.

Just wanted to take a few minutes to share some more thoughts on the above topics. Over the years, those of us who have been around the Penis Enlargement community come to realize (hopefully) that the knowledge base in our community is often limited. More often, it is “shaped” by the “leaders” in the community…who often come to the position of “moderator” or sometimes “administrator” through a game of favorites rather than actual Penis Enlargement knowledge and real world experience and even less often provable gains. They sound like they know what they’re talking about…let’s promote em! LOL. Sad indeed.

Recently, I’ve been once again, trying to further expand my own knowledge base on the topic of (fascinating to me at least) priapism and the medical condition known as Megalophallus that sometimes results from it. Put simply, “Megalophallus” is just what it sounds like. The penis has become much larger than what is accepted to be “normal”. Lengths of over 7” and girths over 6.5” are usually cited in these cases. For two easily searchable, modern examples of men who have potentially suffered from this condition (albeit to their benefit) look up the names “shorty mac” or “shane diesel” on any free �naked people movies� video hosting site and you’ll see what I’m referencing.

In this quest to expand my knowledge of priapism and Megalophallus further, I recently (in the last few weeks) learned of something that most of you probably were not aware of. First, I’d like to share an example of what is usually an expected “reply” on a Penis Enlargement forum when the subject of “trying to mimic priapism for growth….” Or something similar is posted on. The fellow Penis Enlargement’er or (usually and more often than not) “moderator” (possibly well meaning but ill informed) quickly chimes in with something along the lines of “whoa, whoa whoooooa there broski!! You should be aware that priapism is nothing to laugh at and a very dangerous medical condition that can lead to partial or complete erectile dysfunction…possibly even IMPOTENCE!!! DO NOT PROCEED any further!!!” Right??? While I’m definitely not attempting to belittle priapism and the ‘potential’ negative consequences…we usually forget to include the FACT that there is a strong failure in the community to SEPARATE out the fact that priapism in the sense we typically think of it as….is completely different from trying to mimic it for Penis Enlargement purposes.

I’ll attempt to clarify. What I was hinting at learning above was the fact that there are TWO (at least) different types of priapism. FIRST, there is the infamous (and very dangerous) “Low Flow” priapism. “Low flow” means, basically that, the penis has little or no blood flow and if left in this condition, the blood begins to enter necrosis. Blood cells are dying, tissue death soon occurs and at some point along the way, tissues can “degrade” and break down. Hopefully, the man gets medical attention before his penis is completely non functional. On the bright side, he may end up with function after the priapism is treated, and also a larger penis. The larger penis “side effect” being the part of the medical condition that intrigues so many of us.
Now, the OTHER type of priapism (which is overlooked because we all know there are ONLY ABSOLUTES 100% of the time in life right???). HIGH FLOW priapism. This usually results from an injury which causes an artery in the penis to rupture. Circulation is still present. Similar to ‘low flow’ the erection usually becomes painful if left unattended for the infamously termed “longer than four hours” (thanks Pfizer/Viagra). Growth can also result in this case. So, which type is the one we are trying to mimic? High flow of course.

What’s the best way I can think of to mimic a high flow priapism? Pop a little Viagra or similar erection medication, get an erection and “edge” for as long as you can. What’s the danger in that? I can’t think of a single one other than the resultant tissue fatigue may get you closer to a bigger penis. Over time of course.

 

[DLD]

Priapism & Megalophallus, Weak Knowledge Base In Community, ETC.

Just wanted to take a few minutes to share some more thoughts on the above topics. Over the years, those of us who have been around the Penis Enlargement community come to realize (hopefully) that the knowledge base in our community is often limited. More often, it is “shaped” by the “leaders” in the community…who often come to the position of “moderator” or sometimes “administrator” through a game of favorites rather than actual Penis Enlargement knowledge and real world experience and even less often provable gains. They sound like they know what they’re talking about…let’s promote em! LOL. Sad indeed.

Recently, I’ve been once again, trying to further expand my own knowledge base on the topic of (fascinating to me at least) priapism and the medical condition known as Megalophallus that sometimes results from it. Put simply, “Megalophallus” is just what it sounds like. The penis has become much larger than what is accepted to be “normal”. Lengths of over 7” and girths over 6.5” are usually cited in these cases. For two easily searchable, modern examples of men who have potentially suffered from this condition (albeit to their benefit) look up the names “shorty mac” or “shane diesel” on any free �naked people movies� video hosting site and you’ll see what I’m referencing.

In this quest to expand my knowledge of priapism and Megalophallus further, I recently (in the last few weeks) learned of something that most of you probably were not aware of. First, I’d like to share an example of what is usually an expected “reply” on a Penis Enlargement forum when the subject of “trying to mimic priapism for growth….” Or something similar is posted on. The fellow Penis Enlargement’er or (usually and more often than not) “moderator” (possibly well meaning but ill informed) quickly chimes in with something along the lines of “whoa, whoa whoooooa there broski!! You should be aware that priapism is nothing to laugh at and a very dangerous medical condition that can lead to partial or complete erectile dysfunction…possibly even IMPOTENCE!!! DO NOT PROCEED any further!!!” Right??? While I’m definitely not attempting to belittle priapism and the ‘potential’ negative consequences…we usually forget to include the FACT that there is a strong failure in the community to SEPARATE out the fact that priapism in the sense we typically think of it as….is completely different from trying to mimic it for Penis Enlargement purposes.

I’ll attempt to clarify. What I was hinting at learning above was the fact that there are TWO (at least) different types of priapism. FIRST, there is the infamous (and very dangerous) “Low Flow” priapism. “Low flow” means, basically that, the penis has little or no blood flow and if left in this condition, the blood begins to enter necrosis. Blood cells are dying, tissue death soon occurs and at some point along the way, tissues can “degrade” and break down. Hopefully, the man gets medical attention before his penis is completely non functional. On the bright side, he may end up with function after the priapism is treated, and also a larger penis. The larger penis “side effect” being the part of the medical condition that intrigues so many of us.
Now, the OTHER type of priapism (which is overlooked because we all know there are ONLY ABSOLUTES 100% of the time in life right???). HIGH FLOW priapism. This usually results from an injury which causes an artery in the penis to rupture. Circulation is still present. Similar to ‘low flow’ the erection usually becomes painful if left unattended for the infamously termed “longer than four hours” (thanks Pfizer/Viagra). Growth can also result in this case. So, which type is the one we are trying to mimic? High flow of course.

What’s the best way I can think of to mimic a high flow priapism? Pop a little Viagra or similar erection medication, get an erection and “edge” for as long as you can. What’s the danger in that? I can’t think of a single one other than the resultant tissue fatigue may get you closer to a bigger penis. Over time of course.

Good to see you back Still, was wondering where you got to.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Edging for longer periods of time would make perfect sense in creating gains. It stands to reason with what we know and how we understand penis enlargement works. Reading your thread SWM I'm not sure who your reference is with the advice towards caution when doing this stuff but it wouldn't have been ill placed entirely as some idiot may come along with no experience and choke his dick literally.

All I do nowadays is edge as part of Penis Enlargement regime with various exercises thrown in for good measure. Sessions last 30-45 minutes so not marathons like the theme of this thread but it would be worth trying.

 

[DLD]

I was able to do this for a while and I know it works as this was the only form of Penis Enlargement I did before Jen came back this last time and she went crazy over my girth. It is just a huge pain in the ass and really fucks with my head when I have to watch �naked people movies� for hours on end, ingesting Viagra every few hours.

 

[stillwantmore]

Ok, so I did this experiment again today with a little more success. I made it to 3 hours before my concentration just went to shit. I took about a 1/4 of a Viagra (of a 100mg pill), had my laptop on the bed next to me, and watched �naked people movies� as needed. I made the focus of the session just staying erect...which was not difficult at all. I'm happy with the result so far. I did not get any "pump" but I did not expect to either. I DID however, get quite a bit of tissue fatigue that I can feel even now that I'm done for over an hour and totally flaccid. I think the main key indeed is tissue fatigue vs "pump" with this technique. I'm going to have another go with it next Friday. The plan is to add more time each week and stick to once a week. Fridays are completely open to me for the foreseeable future. I feel like after I've worked up to multiple total hours on Friday, once a week will likely be plenty. I'll add that I finished by bringing myself to complete orgasm. I've never ejaculated this much before! Peter North and similar guys in �naked people movies� known for "big loads" must edge...I've never believe it was something they "secretly" ate or took.

 

[DLD]

Yup Still it is a lot of work. 3 hours for me was when I started to crash too. The thing is we know this is the fastest wat to make girth gains but the commitment and motivation are killers. Maybe my Bathmate and Viagra can help out, never tried it this way. Oh well, a long weekend is here I may give it another go.

 

[stillwantmore]

Things I learned today include: I didn't need as much �naked people movies� as I thought I would. I could have easily just watched TV. Keeping erect was easier than I thought it might be (less �naked people movies� needed). I'm looking forward to the next session!

 

[REDZULU2003]

I'm thinking that we maybe dont need to be perfect with this experiment. Lets me explain. If we could keep at semi erect or little higher while clamped for 2-4 hours than that to me is just as good compared to being fully erect for the same time. This being because your phallus is thicker than normal albeit semi erect but still thicker, especially with the clamp as its not a normal semi erection but could be dare I say comparable to a full erection without the clamp, it holds so much blood!

While doing this one can quite easily apply another tourniquet a few inches underneath the glans and so its a horse squeeze with blood being engorged intensely within the centre. You can stay semi erect at this point I think with much better ease and see the expansion you would with a full clamped erection as the second tourniquet underneath the glans would create that expansion one would assume that could equally match a near enough fully erect penis clamped!

Do you guys follow me? doing this fully erect without Viagra or other aid is going to be tricky. I cant use Viagra due to meds and it didn't agree with me in the past. This method I do think will allow a guy with Viagra to go more intense without having to worry about being fully erect because my theory is you dont need to be fully erect at all for X amount of time to mimic this priapism-effect we discuss, just so long you are ERECT which the medical literature says an erection lasting X amount of time is classed as a priapism but as we all know erections can vary in firmness and the amount of blood ... one can have priapism with not a fully 100% boner but 70% however as the erection didn't subside in X amount of time and symptoms start to show that mimic the acute environment to a priapism it would need sorting out by trained staff.

Do you catch me here? It also maybe more safer doing it like this because we dont know for sure how our vascular system inside the penis will hold up to edging sessions clamped going into the 3-4 hour region ... that is allot of strain and stress on the system and potentially some men may have a weakness they dont know about which could lead to potential ruptures. One of the reasons this should only be attempted by guys with years under there belt and NEVER BY NEWBIES OR INTERMEDIATES .. the penis is not conditioned enough, even vets like myself it may not withstand it for 4 hours at a full erection with viagra.

That all being said this could be the holy grail of girth work!!! Really, deadly serious because we all know expansion is everything with the anaconda and I have also found in the longest session I did many years ago now it seems where I went over 1 hour 15 minutes that the tissues to the penis are much more spongy than normal ... very squeeshy and mushy is the way I describe it. That is GOOD as we know ... chambers have been expanded and so if held for X amount of time that means the stress has to displace additional growth.

Healing aids can be used to help like those fancy lamps and creams to rub on your cock to help with circulation.

 

[stillwantmore]

I get what you're saying Red, but at the same time....many men (like myself nowadays) don't want additional (or any) darkening. That's the main "rub" with wearing a ring, or clamp. That's my only issue with what you're saying...otherwise I follow. Why don't you try it your way and report back and I'll keep doin what I'm doing? We'll get more data that way. Another reason I'm doin this UN CLAMPenis EnlargementD is most of what you're saying.

 

[REDZULU2003]

I see what you mean. I'll have to arrange a time when I can do this than.

 

[ZackD89]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2571870/pdf/jnma00281-0075.pdf\

Medical discussion of priapism-- discusses a sickle cell patient who "did not develop impotence despite the fact that he had several episodes of priapism," (473). "During an episode of priapism, the penis further increased in size [beyond its previous maximum] and got very tender," (473).

The key to priapism-induced growth (and avoiding injury):

It appears that the degree of venous obstruction in our patient was such as to produce filling and engorgement of the cavernous spaces resulting in prolonged erection and at the same time the obstruction was not complete so that the circulation through the cavernous spaces continued to the extent that ischemic injury did not occur. Lack of ischemic injury to the cavernous tissue was possibly responsible for the preservation of potency (237).

[R]epeated episodes of mild hypoxia resulting from the transient partial venous obstruction in our patient might have been a stimulus for the hypertrophy of corpora cavernosa, because hypoxia is known to result in hypertrophy of tissues.

So, what is Hypoxia? Essentially a medical term for lack of Oxygen to a part of the body. Clearly, when this part is extrapolated for use in Penis Enlargement, it has to be to a milder extent-- suffocating the penis would be bad. Temporarily squeezing it, however, might be beneficial.

I believe with a penis pump, cable clamp, and natural penis pills , this could safely be attempted. The important parts would be nutrition, hydration, cum control, a solid 4 hours and 15 minutes of privacy, and level of oxygenation. 8 sets of 30 minute clamping and pumping sets (alternating between the two) with ten erect Ulis in between each seems like the best way to go to me. The pump would need to be at a low pressure-- probably around 3 Hg (however much is needed to sustain a 110% erection).

Well, that's it for now. Let me know if you guys think this is a crazy rant or actually doable. To me, if it can happen to some men by nature, it can happen to others by the science of Penis Enlargement. What they experienced sounds like a long clamping session to me.

 

[DLD]

"In the middle of the spectrum there appears to be various degrees of partial venous obstruction, resulting in priapism associated with adequate oxygenation of the cavernous tissue because of continued circulation in the presence of incomplete venous occlusion."

I guess this would be the perfect state

 

[dickerschwanz]

basically doing whole day Penis Enlargement. mixing exercises. having an errection as often as you can.
I tried something like this the last days. I would have a 30 minute Bathmate session with low to medium pressure. then I would edge for another 30 minutes. I would push as much blood into my dick holding a reverse kegel for a big amount of time. My head started to explode as did the head of my dick.
Next thing I did was having a light clamp(velcro strap) for 30 minutes and whenever I felt that too much blood was leaving I would kegel more in or wank. then I would end this set with some jelqs.

This I did 3-4 times a day. Im planing to mix this programm with some heavy workout every 3-4 days to expand the ability of my dick(like heavy Bathmate stretches on max pressure).

I did this cause for me it felt to hard to have everyday a to the max workout and on the other hand I dont want to pause a day.

Im thinking about documenting my journey more with every day pictures cause when I stick to my workout regimen and intensity I most certainly will get some good gains.

Ps. a friend of me who has a really big dick is for real palying with his dick all the day since I knew. Also our dicks grow the most in puberty(sure some hormones play into it too..). I can remember whole puberty was like priapism :D

 

[DLD]

basically doing whole day Penis Enlargement. mixing exercises. having an errection as often as you can.
I tried something like this the last days. I would have a 30 minute Bathmate session with low to medium pressure. then I would edge for another 30 minutes. I would push as much blood into my dick holding a reverse kegel for a big amount of time. My head started to explode as did the head of my dick.
Next thing I did was having a light clamp(velcro strap) for 30 minutes and whenever I felt that too much blood was leaving I would kegel more in or wank. then I would end this set with some jelqs.

This I did 3-4 times a day. Im planing to mix this programm with some heavy workout every 3-4 days to expand the ability of my dick(like heavy Bathmate stretches on max pressure).

I did this cause for me it felt to hard to have everyday a to the max workout and on the other hand I dont want to pause a day.

Im thinking about documenting my journey more with every day pictures cause when I stick to my workout regimen and intensity I most certainly will get some good gains.

Ps. a friend of me who has a really big dick is for real palying with his dick all the day since I knew. Also our dicks grow the most in puberty(sure some hormones play into it too..). I can remember whole puberty was like priapism :D

Document it for sure. Many have tried controlled Priapism but none have accomplished it. In most cases Priapism will last 3-7 days. These episodes may happen 10-15 times a year. Overtime the penis is forced into enlargement. Keep in mind also that most men who have Priapism end up with ED problems. The case in discussion is rare, as it stated, but it would be great to find a way to safely mimic it.

 

[dickerschwanz]

Document it for sure. Many have tried controlled Priapism but none have accomplished it. In most cases Priapism will last 3-7 days. These episodes may happen 10-15 times a year. Overtime the penis is forced into enlargement. Keep in mind also that most men who have Priapism end up with ED problems. The case in discussion is rare, as it stated, but it would be great to find a way to safely mimic it.

I sure dont want to have a real priapism as the price and risk is too high. what I want to do is to get the "healthy" way near to it. I have much time. I think I will do my workout 3-4 times a day and in between I try to hold an errection as long as possible and/or stay in an engorged state(cock ring, strap). then every 2-4 days a heavy workout. lets see what happens. only following this kind of workout sicne some days.

 

[DLD]

I sure dont want to have a real priapism as the price and risk is too high. what I want to do is to get the "healthy" way near to it. I have much time. I think I will do my workout 3-4 times a day and in between I try to hold an errection as long as possible and/or stay in an engorged state(cock ring, strap). then every 2-4 days a heavy workout. lets see what happens. only following this kind of workout sicne some days.

If you have the time an can keep it up for ever, go for it!

 

[powerman1969]

What I have done that worked on numerous occasions is sit constricted in an Air Pump while laying in the bath tub for about an hour then cable clamping for an additional 30 minutes. If I were to go all day clamped, I would break every 40 minutes and do helicopters to restore blood flow and ease up for 20 minutes before going back at it. I have seen significant growth in girth or overall penile volume. I used to suffer the dreaded DONUTS effect until I found the solution in a pair of thin nylon wave caps made of pantie hose material. By wrapping around the back of the glands while being clamped at the base, I eliminated the Donuts. And now that I've added an extender into my regimen, I have to be wrapped good to avoid pinching, pain and priapism from the prolonged stretch n lock down.

I know I'm making Progress because:

1. I can't extend after pumping or clamping...(won't fit through the ring)
2. If I do REDZ FRENDOS and then Clamp..I'm too big to fit inside the pump

To run my whole program I must Extend>Pump>Redz Frendos>Clamp

I don't do the hanging thing because I don't have enough privacy.

Thanks to brothers like DLD, Red Zulu, Still Want More and reading about other fellow members' shared experiences with various manual P.E. exercises, methods of pumping, hanging, stretching, clamping & crushing has given me a blue print to a bigger penis without expensive surgery.

 

[Egghead1]

I'm bringing this thread back to fucking life. I'm slowly working my way up using an ADC at while I work. So far I've been keeping a 50-70% erection for 3-6 hours everyday for two weeks. My clamp is on weak enough that if I become distracted my clamp is on weak enough that EVENTUALLY blood can escape (it takes a little while). I will tighten and increase erection levels slowly over the next few months.

Why am I doing this? Ive been spending too much time PEing late and to be honest I don't have time for it. I'm so busy at work I skip lunches. So if I can keep up an all day light clamp and get PE girth work done while I work I will be very happy.

I'm documenting measurements and results of course if anything amazing or bad happens lol. Safety first! ⛑️

I must add that most of the time I have to do 2 hour sets and split them up throughout the day... unfortunately.

 

[DLD]

I'm bringing this thread back to fucking life. I'm slowly working my way up using an ADC at while I work. So far I've been keeping a 50-70% erection for 3-6 hours everyday for two weeks. My clamp is on weak enough that if I become distracted my clamp is on weak enough that EVENTUALLY blood can escape (it takes a little while). I will tighten and increase erection levels slowly over the next few months.

Why am I doing this? Ive been spending too much time PEing late and to be honest I don't have time for it. I'm so busy at work I skip lunches. So if I can keep up an all day light clamp and get PE girth work done while I work I will be very happy.

I'm documenting measurements and results of course if anything amazing or bad happens lol. Safety first! ⛑️

I must add that most of the time I have to do 2 hour sets and split them up throughout the day... unfortunately.

Good luck and I hope you find success! I loved this idea from the start but no one has been able to do it. I came close, I was doing 4-6 hours a night with an erection. I was able to keep it up for about 8 weeks and then it just got to be too much for me. Then I got sick and had to stop everything. If someone can successfully hold an erection for 4-5 hours in a row, over a six month period I guarantee you make the biggest gains possible.