assuming the septum is the really tough string like thing that runs right down the middle of your penis, then wouldnt bends/twists be doing the wrong thing? surely stretches straight out would work this most. im willing to bet that a rhytHydromaxical pulling SO action is the way to go on this one. rhytHydromaxical, simply because you WILL exert more pressure than if you just did one "100%" pull. so maybe DLDS pulse 110s? just a thought...
 
As i understand it... the septum is the junction where the two CC chambers come together. All tunica stretches should effectively stretch the septum.
 
bulc9 said:
How did u do it then DLD, you went from 6" to 10.5"? there massive gains.

So for people looking for length mainly now, from what i have read on this thread we need to -

> Cum first then stretch after
> do DLD Blasters, A stretch, V stretch?

What about bundled tunica stretches! Confusing me all this, coz new theories come out, but i think this one maybe right as i havent got to 8" STILL!!!!

For people looking for length, what would be the perfect stretching routine for us!

On a note, i did do a hanging session after an orgasm, and i can tell you it was intense, the fatigue was painfull, and i felt worn out after. i duno if that has anything to do with it!

So DLD stretch after a orgasm? and what stretches are best mate??

Yeah I tried hanging after ejaculating a few times and was turned off by the whole experience, but it was an old-style hanger that cut off circulation. I haven't tried it with the Max-Vac. It just hurts what with the cum or fluid build-up or whatever it is that causes that pressure you feel. Maybe it isn't a problem with the newer models of hangers.

This thread should not ever die by the way. GS good stuff!

I don't mean to sound silly or anything but I have always wondered when we were going to start reading about new angles for hanging like hanging while suspended and up-side-down or doing the splits OTS. I don't know how any of that would help us weaken/stretch the fibers we need to with more force or by hitting new angles all together, but hanging Cirque Du Soleil style is coming I'm telling you.
 
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iwant8inches said:
Yeah I tried hanging after ejaculating a few times and was turned off by the whole experience, but it was an old-style hanger that cut off circulation. I haven't tried it with the Max-Vac. It just hurts what with the cum or fluid build-up or whatever it is that causes that pressure you feel. Maybe it isn't a problem with the newer models of hangers.

This thread should not ever die by the way. GS good stuff!

I don't mean to sound silly or anything but I have always wondered when we were going to start reading about new angles for hanging like hanging while suspended and up-side-down or doing the splits OTS. I don't know how any of that would help us weaken/stretch the fibers we need to with more force or by hitting new angles all together, but hanging Cirque Du Soleil style is coming I'm telling you.

aint nothing wrong with old-style hangars. I think they just as effective. thats only my opinion :)
 
Girthius said:
How does anyone know what the effects of different drugs/chemicals will have on the penis?Yes.......some of the drugs listed on this thread are for men who suffer from peyronies.............but even though such drugs are meant to treat such things, I'm sure that these men who have/and are using such protocol, did not engage in a hardcore Penis Enlargement program!!My question is............. what effects would such drugs have on one's penis, if they were involved in a stringent Penis Enlargement program?And before I am told to try them myself......I probably will...as I am very much into experimentation......instead of being closed minded!

Girthius, it is not a matter of being closed minded. The real issue is that these drugs do not work on Peyronies. I have investigated the peyronies issue very throughly and the only results that are being seen is with Penis Enlargement. GS
 
millionman said:
GS, I'm going to disagree with men not being able to gain length. I've found that the simple addition of an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] post session really is a great way to make length gains, consistently. Remember when DLD first started Penis Enlargement he would use an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] wrap post session. I think more men need to explore the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] option and see where they get before jumping into injections, dermal treatments, or trying to find some new method of stretching. I'm for progression, but I'd be sure to try the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] method before I wasted even more time. I went nearly 2 years without a milimeter of a length gain, but after I've added in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and focused on stretching the tunica all of a sudden I'm up nealry a half an inch in FSL.

Are you sure you are stretch the tunica or just putting enough daily stretch on the septum so that you are getting length. :) GS
 
To all: No one is right or wrong in their thinking regarding the tunica or the septum. My theory, for what it is worth, is that the septum, that tough wire through the center is holding everything back. If you stretch it, you will get the tunica and everything else. I hear things about stretching the tunica and I doubt if you can do much with it until you "budge" that septum. I do believe that the tunica is easily stretched and we see growth in girth but little in length. Maybe as Million says the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] is the way. I wanted to try one of those but they are too expensive for me. Those who have been successful with hanging have done long term hanging. I think that you don't have to use so much weight, just long time to gain fatigue to get the septum to give to the continued weight. I know that those who use heavy weight want to gain fatigue quicker that way, but I don't think you would necessarily need to be at 30#s to get results, but you might have to hang several hours daily. What do I know? Nothing really, we are all learning. here is the bottom line: If you want to gain length, it is going to take consistency and keeping tension to get that septum to move. I think who ever said it that the twists don't help the septum. I think that is true. Twists do help the tunica though, so you will get girth doing that. Now another subject. I think that when Penis Enlargement is started early you will get better results. The septum and the penis in general is still in the growth stage so it would seem that someone younger might really realize excellent growth. I am thinking in the 20's and younger. Do I advocate Penis Enlargement to those in puberty? I don't think so but right after or 17 and up, depending on the growth they are or have achieved, it seems they would gain some really good growth. If any of you are in that age bracket, I would like to hear if you are seeing some good growth results. Then, I read someplace that older men gain fast, but I don't think that is true, has not been for me anyway.

I have a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words] (PA) and think that it is a good tool. It gives you a chance to get some really tough stretches. You still have the problem of the grip of the penis head and that is dependent on your hand grip. So, you might be able to hold the stretch longer if you had a better ability to grip the penile head. Those of you who don't have a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] can use a tube or plastic pipe. I used a vacuum cleaner tube for a long time and that was a great tool for putting tension or pressure on the penis. Use your imagination. GS
 
What about the use of a far infra-red lamp? I've read that when ligament tissue is heated to 113 deg. F and then stretched, gains are made permanent. I would think the same would apply to the tunica and the septum, although it may not be practical to heat the septum to that temperature. But my lamp is a 300 watt with ceramic bulb, and I can feel the heat through my entire shaft when I use it. I use it pretty close, and often have to back off, so I know I'm getting the tissues pretty well heated. So I would think the use of heat while doing the A, V, and bundled stretches might be the way to go. The heat should keep the septum at least somewhat elastic, and while doing the right exercises, perhaps gains can be made, but it will just take time.

P.S. I've only been using the lamp for a few weeks, so I can't speak from experience.
 
I think the way to stretch the septum lies in the lig stretching category.. breaking it down at the base.. the pubic bone.. doing more sock stretching and shit like that.. i dont know though.. how did dld mutilate it to give him 4 inches haha
 
DLD, and all the Penis Enlargement members here: I have done some very important thinking and testing and unless we stretch the septum we will never get length of penis gain. I discussed this on another thread/post some time ago but nothing comes from it but here are my thoughts. When doing heavy stetching manual or otherwise, we can feel this strong cord in the very inner part of the shaft. It attaches to the glans and attaches to the public bone. It may go back into the behind the balls part of our shaft and connect back farther, I can't really tell, but it is tough and like a solid rope when hanging. It has to give, to give length. You can get girth with the meat part of your schlong, but you can't get length if you don't get that septum to give and stretch. What it takes on each of us, who knows, but it has to reach a point of fatigue and give or nothing is going anywhere. The tunica surrounds the septum and regardless of what else we do, it has to give. Any ideas or success in this area would be appreicated. I think this is why hanging is so very necessary and productive. Obviously there are some great first gains and the septum gives but after a while, it is definitley the determining factor. Little is said about it and yet it keeps giving me fits. I work it, twisting and pulling and when under a load in hanging, put my finger under and pull up, doing the same to the sides and all along it. So, give us some feed back on what you are doing to get the septum to give. GS

I believe bundled expressive stretching with the length naster can help to bring gains from an entirely different area of the penis.

However, I don't advice anyone to do this particular exercise unless they have exhausted every other length master exercises.

I believe the bundled expressive stretching done with the length master is the secret to bypassing the septum cord.
 
Sorry to say, but septum and tunica are two of the same. We focus on one too long, the penis curves down, or curves sideways. There must be a balance on the two.
 
I loved him a great deal.He was a good friend of mine.And we talked often on the phone. Between him and I, we created the perones workout. He went from having about a four inch to having a six and a half inch length. He was able to take his widely crooked penis and I mean crazy bend. After about a year of working with each other, the bend was completely gone. I was amazed! I know he was an older gentleman back then, around seventy one years old, so I don't think we will be hearing from him until we get to heaven.
 
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