I was thinking about this the other day was wondering if maybe I could get some input from all the guys here that started out below "average" in size and are now average or greater. I'm 6.2" BPenis EnlargementL by 4" EG and I'm wondering if I am still going to have the same feelings of inadequency when I am 7x5.5 or 8x6 or what have you.
If you've had the thought in your head that you have a small penis since you've gone through puberty, how hard is it to brush those feelings of inadequecy and insecurity out of your mind once you are "normal" or above average?

Thanks,
-Stunna-
 
Supra 8x6 is not small. Get over that complex. This is one mighty tool you have. My goal is 8x6 and when I get there I will definitely stop. You can screw the chicks brains out with 8x6. Thats enough. But if you want more get more.

Lappner
 
That is what I am worried about, being that big and still thinking I am small. I don't want to continue thinking I'm too small and then get so big I can't fit in anything human ya kno?
 
Yes I am gonna stop for sure. Will be doing a lot of Kegels for the rest of my life and maybe some light jelqing from time to time, but thats all. I am just gonna rest on my results and write my Penis Enlargement memoirs rofl. So you never gonna stop? What about 10x7. Do you think that is small?

Lappner :cool:
 
I dont know man, I got issues. I think once I get my surgery and restore my forskin and gain another inch or two I will 100% satisfied, but these are my goals and this is what I want to do.
 
Supra said:
I dont know man, I got issues. I think once I get my surgery and restore my forskin and gain another inch or two I will 100% satisfied, but these are my goals and this is what I want to do.

Supra, do you think you are small because of the extraordinary size of your father? And thus thinking because you had the circumcision and the whatever else that happened to you it hindered what size you should have been? I know a situation like that would seriously mess with my head. Making me think I never was allowed to reach my full potential. Thank the Lord I would never ask my dad how big his penis is (he's uncut) because if he was some insane size I think I would be pissed to that my parents circumcised me.
 
Stunna said:
That is what I am worried about, being that big and still thinking I am small. I don't want to continue thinking I'm too small and then get so big I can't fit in anything human ya know?

Ah hell, I wouldnt worry about that until you get close to the girth of a newborn's head. ;)
 
Hell I'm 8 x 6 too and feel small, I know my dad was bigger than I am, though were both uncircumsized. What makes me feel small is when I look down, I think I'm just merley average in my eyes. For me its a visual thing more than anything else. I measure at 8.2 fully erect, and will feel good for about two seconds, and then I look down again then I start to feel bad. I want a more impressive looking penid than I got, plain and simple. As for satatitics I'm big, but to my naked eye its looks normal.
Anybody with me on this?
 
crazyed27 said:
Hell I'm 8 x 6 too and feel small, I know my dad was bigger than I am, though were both uncircumsized. What makes me feel small is when I look down, I think I'm just merley average in my eyes. For me its a visual thing more than anything else. I measure at 8.2 fully erect, and will feel good for about two seconds, and then I look down again then I start to feel bad. I want a more impressive looking penid than I got, plain and simple. As for satatitics I'm big, but to my naked eye its looks normal.
Anybody with me on this?
It looks normal because you are used to it. I've pumped before and when I come out of the tube my unit is about an inch longer and an inch thicker. To me this looks HUGE because I am so used to a 6x4 and not a 7x5. Just put a ruler up to your unit and you'll realize how big it is.
 
The way I look at it is how does it feel in your hand. Or for instance in a girls hand or pu$$y. Numbers dont really matter unless you want them to its how it feels is what we should be thinking about.
 
I see 7 x 5 as the size to really start feeling secure and happy at. Even though some may be bigger, not many are, and from there every gain is icing on the cake isn't it?

I can see why some gainers would have a hard time shaking the negative image, but in time we will.

I didn't think I could be, but at 7.5" BPenis EnlargementL I'm happy with my length, and so I'm working on girth to get to 7 x 5 NBPenis EnlargementL as I know I'll be a lot less insecure then.
 
Guys most important thing is what girls think. U see your dick everyday, so it looks normal to u, but a 8x6 dick is big and with that size nearly every girl will be satisfied and will say u r one of the biggest that she ever saw. This one who thinks u have a small dick-fuck em, im sure they will have difficulties to find a bigger one. Thats the important thing for me, i wanna the girls to be happy with my dick and i dont wanna have a huge dick, cause i dont wanna scare them, they should have no pain just pleasure. My goal is everything between 7.2/8x5.2/6. I know i'll be happy when i reach my goal and i know i'll feel stronger at a party when i try to catch a chick. When i reach my goal i'll stop and will only do some kegels, jelqs for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words].
 
Stunna said:
That is what I am worried about, being that big and still thinking I am small. I don't want to continue thinking I'm too small and then get so big I can't fit in anything human ya kno?
Laugh, jump off this bridge when you get there. at 6.2X4 you can gain at least 2 inches length and girth before you start skating on thin ice about getting it on or not.
 
crazyed27 said:
Hell I'm 8 x 6 too and feel small, I know my dad was bigger than I am, though were both uncircumsized. What makes me feel small is when I look down, I think I'm just merley average in my eyes. For me its a visual thing more than anything else. I measure at 8.2 fully erect, and will feel good for about two seconds, and then I look down again then I start to feel bad. I want a more impressive looking penid than I got, plain and simple. As for satatitics I'm big, but to my naked eye its looks normal.
Anybody with me on this?
It's human nature to think your dick looks small and that others look big. I posted pics at 5.25 girth and many SWORE I was over 6. I see other guys in the low 5's in terms of girth and worry that they look bigger than I do. You just gotta change your mindset.
 
Right now my stats are right around 7.2 NBP and 5.3-5.4 girth, and I feel small. I know that I'm larger then average in both aspects, but I still find myself insecure anytime I'm in a locker room environment. I attribute this more to the fact that I'm a grower as opposed to a shower...my flacid hang isn't anything to write home about.

Will I magically feel better about myself when I hit 8x6? Probably not, but i think it will be a step in the right direction. Progress...it's all about progress.
 
I've been wondering about my goals lately too. I've never had sex (I'm waiting until I get married, mainly because of religious reasons), so I don't really *know* about what is too big and what isn't. But the thing is, the gal I will probably be marrying (I'll be proposing sometime this year) is also a virgin. So I don't want to get to the honeymoon with a 9x6.5 stick and not be able to use it, ya know? Maybe she will want that much one day, but I don't think she will be able to handle it her very first time. So I've been thinking of just going with the good ol' gold standard, 8x6. But then am I going to feel like I cheated myself? I don't know. I only have half an inch to go to get 8 inches, but I have 7/8" before I'm 6 girth. But it seems like suddenly my goals are much closer and I'm not really even going to have that much bigger of a penis than what I started out with. I started at about 7x5 and let me tell ya, you can still feel small at that size...I think the length would have been ok but I think anything under 6 girth needs improvement. Anyway, the point is I don't want to feel like I'm settling for less. But maybe I should just go for 8x6 and then if she ever wants more I can definitely improve on it.

John
 
I think that I can honestly say that when I reach the 8" NBPenis EnlargementL/6" EG - I will have 0 size complex issues.
 
oopapercutoo said:
Right now my stats are right around 7.2 NBP and 5.3-5.4 girth, and I feel small. I know that I'm larger then average in both aspects, but I still find myself insecure anytime I'm in a locker room environment. I attribute this more to the fact that I'm a grower as opposed to a shower...my flacid hang isn't anything to write home about.

Will I magically feel better about myself when I hit 8x6? Probably not, but i think it will be a step in the right direction. Progress...it's all about progress.

I'm almost the same size as you, barely 7" NBP and 5.5" girth, and a "grower" as well. Visually, most of the time it still looks small to average, although with a good erection I can see the difference a little. When I started, I was barely 6" NBP and maybe 5.3" girth. Soon after I began Penis Enlargement, I bought a "ultra-realistic" dildo supposedly 8" x 6. In fact it measures 7.5" "insertable" length, there's about 1/2" around the base where the balls attach. It is a consistent 6" girth, with the glans about the same size as the shaft. Where my penis is more wide or oval, this thing is fairly circular.

I can tell you, when I first got it I thought it was huge. I'd hold it beside my dick and get discouraged. Now, almost a year later it doesn't look that big to me. Still bigger than mine, but the main thing is the girth. It's absolutely astounding how 1/2" of girth, the difference from 5.5" to 6", looks so much bigger. Especially in this case, my glans is smaller than my shaft, which kind of tapers down towards the end. This dildo has a big glans, not a "mushroom" head but as I said the shaft & glans are pretty consistent girth of 6". I really envy the guys with big glans, as well as the "showers." I posted recently about meeting a nudist friend, and comparing cocks with him. Flacid, he looked huge about 5" x 5+". Erect he was about the same size as me, except a little thicker but his glans is big. His flacid unit dwarfed mine.

Honestly, I believe girth is the key, if you have 6" of girth and 7" or more in length I don't think you'll get a complaint from any female who isn't a "size queen". No disrespect to all of the CDS and squirting theories, but from my experimentation and conversations with females none have reported any huge increase in orgasmic pleasure from length alone hitting the CDS. I'm talking about females whom I trust to be truthful, and who've had large partners. More than one has mentioned having someone too big to the point of pain. A recent post here mentioned something about that if you have 8x6, all you need to do is stick it in and out to produce an orgasm, really made it sound like if you <i>don't</i> have 8x6 you could hardly hope to truly please a woman.

The truth is, women - like - men require mental stimulation to reach orgasm. For some size queens, maybe the only mental image that will get them off is that of a huge dick. For most though, there are many factors involved. I'm not saying that size doesn't matter, but that it certainly isn't all that matters. It's not about just the physical stimulation. I doubt many women would, for example, turn down sex with a cute guy whom they're attracted to, who's an average 6x5, in favor of using a 8x6 dildo solo. Otherwise, most of us would hardly ever get laid because the ladies would prefer using a dildo. And, no matter how big your dick is, how sexually skilled, or how good looking you are, if you're an asshole most women will not sleep with you. Although, some assholes seem to be able to fool them once but won't get a second chance ;-)

The total package is what matters. For instance, it's rumored that Jon Bon Jovi is of average endowment. If this is true, how many women would rather sleep with him, than say Ron Jeremy? And if a woman slept with both guys, which would she prefer?

wesb
 
rofl
stillwantmore said:
Ah hell, I wouldnt worry about that until you get close to the girth of a newborn's head. ;)
:s Humm women vary of course but over 7.5" girth tends to hurt most women at least at first. after childbirth they can handle more than they could before. Until you are married I couldn't recommend going over 6.5",especially if you want a b/j. lol
LT
 
9cyclops9 said:
I've been wondering about my goals lately too. I've never had sex (I'm waiting until I get married, mainly because of religious reasons), so I don't really *know* about what is too big and what isn't. But the thing is, the gal I will probably be marrying (I'll be proposing sometime this year) is also a virgin. So I don't want to get to the honeymoon with a 9x6.5 stick and not be able to use it, ya know? Maybe she will want that much one day, but I don't think she will be able to handle it her very first time. So I've been thinking of just going with the good ol' gold standard, 8x6. But then am I going to feel like I cheated myself? I don't know. I only have half an inch to go to get 8 inches, but I have 7/8" before I'm 6 girth. But it seems like suddenly my goals are much closer and I'm not really even going to have that much bigger of a penis than what I started out with. I started at about 7x5 and let me tell ya, you can still feel small at that size...I think the length would have been ok but I think anything under 6 girth needs improvement. Anyway, the point is I don't want to feel like I'm settling for less. But maybe I should just go for 8x6 and then if she ever wants more I can definitely improve on it.

John
16/17 years ago I was where you are [more or less] I married a virgin as a virgin, anyway I had 5.25"+/-.25" girth. She could push the blood right out of a good hard on
:s anyhow it took 2 years to get her loosened up where it didn't hurt her. flash forward 14 years and 2 kids and she was feeling loose now that I'm up to 6" girth she is tight again :s go figure.
LT
 
You guys act like 8 x 6 is some standard big dick. 8 x 6 is TWICE the volume of average. When some guy with 6 x 5 will look at an 8 x 6 and think it completely smashes his because it does. DLD's study also confirmed that 8 x 6 is about the size you are considered HUGE in appearance.

For one thing, size is not going to save you guys. I am at around 7 x 5.25 and I make my girl cum and orgasm countless times every time we have sex. Its how skilled you are and how naturally good you are at sex. I have hit her cervix once and I plan to go for 8 - 8.5 in length so I can stimulate the epicenter. I also plan on going for 6 or so girth because that would make her feel much tighter. I have only slept with 2 girls, but both I have given many orgasms to. And another thing, half of you guys are still virgins because you are too fucking scard to go fuck girls because you think your above average dicks are too small. I was 6.5 x 4.5 the first time I had sex and I got the girl off 7 times in 4 hours. Another point I would like to make is that fucking hard is fun. Giving your woman pleasure is fun. I live to hear my girl orgasm into my ear and then nearly pass out. Or ask me for a break because she cant take it anymore. And after 4 hours of fucking she will get sore and beg me to cum.

You guys think your lives will be good if you have HUGE dicks that will take months to fit into most pussys in a way that will allow you to fuck hard and fast. Before you take your goals into consideration, I urge you to go out and fuck some girls and see what it is really like. Find out if you have Premature Ejaculation problems. I used to for a little while off and on and thanks to kegels I cum on demand and I can last all night. Get some experience. Stop wasting away, putting your sex lives on hold for 2 years just so you can get a bigger dick.

If you want to be a fucking big dicked stud in the bedroom, you need three things. Size, Skill, and [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]Stamina[/words]. Size is a good thing, but too much blows. And every woman has different requirements. Skill is definitely more important that size you have to know how to fuck her good and get her off. Just jamming a huge dick in there is not necessarily gonna make you good in bed. [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]Stamina[/words] is also important. If you want to fuck for hours fast and hard you need to be in shape. You need to maintain your erection and have complete control of yourself. I hope I have talked some sense.

Go for a big dick, not a huge dick. Have sex now, not after 2 or 3 years of jelqing. You will have a much better life.
 
Lemme tell ya, when I get to Supra's size I'm going to slow down. Thats my goal, for now hehehe.

Supra Size = sounds like a drive thru meal deal LOL, I wish I could order it up!

Thanks for coming to McDonalds, would you like that "Supra Sized" ? lolololololol
 
Feeling of inadequacy over a imagined or real physical defect will not change just because the physical defect has been corrected. It is important to address the cognitive portion of Penis Enlargement while you train the physical. I have written quite a few papers on this. I will search out the links for you if you wish.


DLD
 
I am over 8X7.5 yet I feel small.
Well I have large days LOL, but more small ones .... I think its the media crap, this idea that women want a larger cock and than I seee massive cocks on the net and its an ass.

Also no matter what peeps say, the Black race is thought to be larger.
Recently my sister [younger] who I am open with and she me, said she only goes for black men .... I was like WHY.....cos they are larger......okay, fair enough.
That also gets on my tits with this complex, that another race is thought to be more superior in size than others ..... though its not true, they aint all large....but tell that to the stupud white sluts.
 
REDZULU2003 said:
I am over 8X7.5 yet I feel small.
Well I have large days LOL, but more small ones .... I think its the media crap, this idea that women want a larger cock and than I seee massive cocks on the net and its an ass.

Also no matter what peeps say, the Black race is thought to be larger.
Recently my sister [younger] who I am open with and she me, said she only goes for black men .... I was like WHY.....cos they are larger......okay, fair enough.
That also gets on my tits with this complex, that another race is thought to be more superior in size than others ..... though its not true, they aint all large....but tell that to the stupud white sluts.

OMG RED I feel the same way you do about white girls thinking somehow all black men MUST have a bigger dick than the average white guy, which is complete horse shit. One of the reasons I started Penis Enlargement was to prove them wrong.
 
REDZULU2003 said:
I am over 8X7.5 yet I feel small.
Well I have large days LOL, but more small ones .... I think its the media crap, this idea that women want a larger cock and than I seee massive cocks on the net and its an ass.

Also no matter what peeps say, the Black race is thought to be larger.
Recently my sister [younger] who I am open with and she me, said she only goes for black men .... I was like WHY.....cos they are larger......okay, fair enough.
That also gets on my tits with this complex, that another race is thought to be more superior in size than others ..... though its not true, they aint all large....but tell that to the stupud white sluts.

Ya red that aspect of women pisses me off to. After working out in the gym for 3.5 years I am really damn strong. Like I can stack a fair amount of machines.

But the women that knew me before I started training, when I was 145 pounds, still think of me as weak. Like I say oh I could beat that little guy down, they are like no he is strong. This is a guy who is maybe 185, and I"m 270.

However new women I meet are really impressed by my strength. So I never really hang around with women I knew before, because they just don't see me as 'the man'. Its really true that for women first impressions are everything. They meet you and get a description of you in their mind. They will never change that thinking, no matter what.

With black guys I swear if a woman was getting humped by an average black guy, (their average is about 6.4 x 5.2), and then by a huge white guy of 9 x 7, she would say the black guy was larger.

We view the world in a different way then women. That is why those seduction style hypnotic techniques work so well on women. Those wouldn't work on men, we'd be like ya but her ass isn't ghetto enough still lol.

Example: I wear size 12 shoes, but I started wearing size 13 shoes because women kept going on and on and on and on and on and on about it. So they start talking about shoe size, then I'm like lets compare feet, they put their small shoe next to the size 13 shoe, then are like wow your feet are so big!! Then they get turned on. Inside I'm just shaking my head, but hey if they want to make things so superficial as shoe size, then I'll just wear a bigger shoe.

Its like with condoms, no matter how much you are telling the woman about average dick sizes and studies she isn't going to think your large until you put on that magnum and it doesn't fall off. Or you get a reputation for being big, or something like that.
 
< Those wouldn't work on men, we'd be like ya but her ass isn't ghetto enough still

Hahaha! I love this! Its so true!
 
ctmwm said:
Lemme tell ya, when I get to Supra's size I'm going to slow down. Thats my goal, for now hehehe.

Supra Size = sounds like a drive thru meal deal LOL, I wish I could order it up!

Thanks for coming to McDonalds, would you like that "Supra Sized" ? lolololololol

Or of course, "I'll take a Double quater pounder meal, and Supra Size it please!"

oh yeah, i'm doing that next time i'm in the drive through! :D



dopey
 
AncientChina said:
Often women have very specific "types" of guys. These are the type of guys that can only spark their interest both personality wise and mentally.
I'm not sure why, but this sentence made me go into a long winded thinking session which finally ended up with my hatred of "car sluts".

Yes, this will be off topic, but i wanted to rant.

It pisses me off when a guy can be a complete jerk, the most arrogant arsehole you have ever met, but shit, he drives a Holden Commodore with a bodykit and a big ass spoiler, and the "car sluts" will just bend over for him. And naturally, the guy plays this to his advantage.

Really, i do not get some females.

I drive a 1988 Toyota MR2. Granted, a few females have seemed really interested in it, being a 2 door sports car and all, but i do not let my car become the conversation point, and i certainly do NOT try and use it to my advantage with the ladies. I just be myself, and this works fine.

After going over what i have just wrote, you obviously need the right combination - the girl who will do anything for the dude with the nice looking car, and the dude who will use that to his advantage. However, i still can't see why the 2 exist. Maybe it's immiturity, maybe it is selfishness. I don't know.

Anyway, rant complete, feel free to get back on topic now :)




dopey

*Edit: "Hatred of car cluts" may have been a little harsh. Change that to dislike.
 
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Those feelings of inadequacy never go away. Maybe after years of therapy or hypnosis or some shit. Getting a bigger dick will help somewhat, but the real change in thought comes from within and you can do that without Penis Enlargement. I'd say that if you hate yourself, Penis Enlargement is like putting a band aid over a gushing artery.
 
Godsize said:
Those feelings of inadequacy never go away. Maybe after years of therapy or hypnosis or some shit. Getting a bigger dick will help somewhat, but the real change in thought comes from within and you can do that without Penis Enlargement. I'd say that if you hate yourself, Penis Enlargement is like putting a band aid over a gushing artery.

True indeed!
 
Man...I drive a Honda Accord, I'm skinny, I'm a classical and jazz musician, I'm short, I wear black glasses a la Buddy Holly, I'm pale white (but in the summer I get really dark), and I have no money. But guys, my girlfriend is freaking HOT! Rules are made to be broken haha.

John
 
I find it funny that Trojan has named a condom after Supra. Anyway, after you get to your goal, go into therapy, and have a hot therapist. Tell her you feel very small, and if she asks to see it, whip it out, and left her be frightened (I don't know what I am typing, this is 6:30 in the morning, sorry if I offend.).
 
AncientChina said:
randolf the first impression thing, was not only funny as hell but very true! Wow, those girls must seem like a downer to you by the way. I see that a lot with girls....do they not realize that people change and evolve hahah.

Ya they are sort of a downer. Thats why even though I like them as friends, I find myself drifting towards new people. They don't mean to put me down like that, its just before I used to be cocky and about average strength, so they'd bug me about it.

But now that I am stronger they can't see it. I mean I've done demonstrations of strength versus people they say are as strong or stronger then me. And I win, then instead of acknowledging it they immediately make another challenge, like I have to prove it again.

I think in some respects they get turned on by the strength things. A lot of bodybuilders can lift a lot more then me, but I am stronger then the average guy my age by a lot. But I also think they just can't see it, and even in the face of demonstrations that they themselves make up, they can't see it, and will never admit it.

I've found that with leadership to, the women who knew me before, can't accept me in the full domineering role, whereas new people see me as a leader. Ist like so many things frustrated me, until I realized wait a minute randolf, you can use this to your advantage. Just like peoples greed, you could allow it to frustrate you and fight against it your whole life, and you would never make a dent in it. But when you use peoples greed to work for you, it is an incredible motivator for them.

For example going to a new place, like I happen to be into politics, and immediately asserting yourself as the leader. All people see of you is the leader. Whereas someone that has worked their way up from inside, they still have memories of when he was at their level.

I believe its a factor in why a lot of the young professionals that are like deputy vice presidents and that of companies, have never worked at a company for more then 1.5 years. There is other factors as well, but they jump from one to another, and project how they want to be seen as they jump to each level. The people have never seen anything different of them.

ancientchina said:
"Do you find asian guys seuxally attractive" and she told me "Yeah, but the only thing that holds me back is the penis size sterotype"......You see? A guy would just screw a chick no matter what, regardless of sterotypes.

Yes and they see a black guy they immediately think he will have rythim, and be hugely hung. But its like their stereotypes actualy create their reality. Like even if that black guy can't dance worth shit, and is average size, they still view him as a good dancer and hung.

And there is no doubt women find asian guys attractive, from what I've seen it is somewhat more of a spirtual type connection, like attractive eyes and face etc. But its 'in' to be with a black guy, I think women are far more driven by social status then men.

Think about tall women, they say the reason they don't date short men, is because of how it would look. Guys couldn't give a fuck about how it looks, they just want the hot loving. Whoever they are attracted to, black, tall, asian, short whatever they will want to be with.

For me marrying a tall woman and having children with her, would give my children the same taller genes, as a woman marrying a tall man.

But for me although height is good, there is so many other factors, that I don't really care or think about it. I look at a girl and I think shes hot or shes not hot. I dont' think about why, and frankly the women are of varying heights and shapes. I like a lot of different types.

Infact I could marry a black woman, and she could give the children all the genetics that women seem to be going for from black men. And I do find some black women really hot, I love their muscularity, energy, rythem, sexuality, but I like other women of different ethnicities just as much. And for different reasons, and their different sexualities. I should specificaly note the short muscle development and that is specifically west african decent blacks.

And indeed I may end up one day marrying a black woman, if that is who I end up being with. I couldn't care less what society thinks of it. But there is so many different types of women, all offering so many good things, I would be a fool to only pursue one specific type of woman.
 
dopefish said:
I'm not sure why, but this sentence made me go into a long winded thinking session which finally ended up with my hatred of "car sluts".

Yes, this will be off topic, but i wanted to rant.

It pisses me off when a guy can be a complete jerk, the most arrogant arsehole you have ever met, but shit, he drives a Holden Commodore with a bodykit and a big ass spoiler, and the "car sluts" will just bend over for him. And naturally, the guy plays this to his advantage.

Really, i do not get some females.

I drive a 1988 Toyota MR2. Granted, a few females have seemed really interested in it, being a 2 door sports car and all, but i do not let my car become the conversation point, and i certainly do NOT try and use it to my advantage with the ladies. I just be myself, and this works fine.

After going over what i have just wrote, you obviously need the right combination - the girl who will do anything for the dude with the nice looking car, and the dude who will use that to his advantage. However, i still can't see why the 2 exist. Maybe it's immiturity, maybe it is selfishness. I don't know.

Anyway, rant complete, feel free to get back on topic now :)




dopey

*Edit: "Hatred of car cluts" may have been a little harsh. Change that to dislike.


Ya never believe that hollywood fairytale ideology that women will go for the poor guy with a big heart.

It makes for enjoyable stories, but it doesn't have any bearing in reality. Just like people see something in a movie like the americans getting the enigma device in U587 and assume its fact, they see how female characters in movies react to men, and assume that is fact.

I have seen time and again, that women go for the aggressive and asshole like men. And this is coming from a guy who used to be pretty nice, then turned somewhat arrogant.

Men are so driven to obtain material things, precisely because women are attracted by it. And women should be its takes tremendous resources to feed and protect a child from birth, let alone multiple children.

Things like obtaining whatever the status symbol car, is attractive to women because it shows a high status male, with control of resources.

I think one issue with the fantasy stories in hollywood, is that women themselves dont' view it like, OMG hes got a suped up civic hes hot, they unconciously see the man in a different light, then men of lesser means and drives. Which seeing men in a different light, is exactly what I'm talking about with black guys at the moment. They immediately think sexy even if the guy is actualy not very sexy, because of stereotypes that have been told so long, that it is ingrained in their unconciousness.

So they themselves aren't making the concious connection, therefore how could they explain to others that materialism can add to a man's sex appeal.

Men are more driven by what the woman looks like, aka how healthy of children she is likely to bear. We don't have to take responsibility for raising it ultimately, nor could you ever prove who the father was until recent times. In other words that is not part of our genetic drives.

Women have to care about the means, and likely future means of her husband, for example in russia there is no money to raise children. Therefore women wanting families of their own have to move to america or europe or the middle east, for a husband. Also women need to know that the guy will stay with them.

That is why the saying I love you and that works so well. It shows you are committed to her. And it opens up her sexual feelings to you. A single woman with kids, is far less attractive then that same single woman without kids. No man wants to pay to raise another man's children.
 
Why want a bigger than 8 inches... the average womans vagina is only 6 inches and the first 3 inches are the most receptive for her orgasm so stop worrying, i am 7 inches errect and 5 soft and quite happy with it, get good results, plenty of sperm and enjoy walking naked in the sun!!
Mike
 
9cyclops9 said:
I've been wondering about my goals lately too. I've never had sex (I'm waiting until I get married, mainly because of religious reasons), so I don't really *know* about what is too big and what isn't. But the thing is, the gal I will probably be marrying (I'll be proposing sometime this year) is also a virgin. So I don't want to get to the honeymoon with a 9x6.5 stick and not be able to use it, ya know? Maybe she will want that much one day, but I don't think she will be able to handle it her very first time. So I've been thinking of just going with the good ol' gold standard, 8x6. But then am I going to feel like I cheated myself? I don't know. I only have half an inch to go to get 8 inches, but I have 7/8" before I'm 6 girth. But it seems like suddenly my goals are much closer and I'm not really even going to have that much bigger of a penis than what I started out with. I started at about 7x5 and let me tell ya, you can still feel small at that size...I think the length would have been ok but I think anything under 6 girth needs improvement. Anyway, the point is I don't want to feel like I'm settling for less. But maybe I should just go for 8x6 and then if she ever wants more I can definitely improve on it.

John


start at the good ol AVERAGE 8x6 huh for a virgin? thats preeetty big for a virgin id say.
 
After jelqing my dick was almost 5 inches totally flaccid and it stil did not look big enough for me :( - maybe its because I got a bigger body frame so it makes my dick look smaller
 
BeBobBox said:
After jelqing my dick was almost 5 inches totally flaccid and it stil did not look big enough for me :( - maybe its because I got a bigger body frame so it makes my dick look smaller

I can relate to the body deal. I am on a diet in hopes of changing that.
 
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