huge-girth;653824 said:
You still want to gain more length?

I think JakeM82 is massive now n he wants to continue who wouldn't want to get to 9 NBPEL im still struggling whit the 7 nbpel im the lamest PE er ever roflroflrofl
 
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shortdick;653856 said:
I think JakeM82 is massive now n he wants to continue who wouldn't want to get to 9 NBPEL im still struggling whit the 7 nbpel im the lamest PE er ever roflroflrofl

Once I got to 7 I wanted 8, once I got to 8 I wanted 9, once I got to 9 I wanted 10, this will probably go on forever:)
 
doublelongdaddy;653863 said:
Once I got to 7 I wanted 8, once I got to 8 I wanted 9, once I got to 9 I wanted 10, this will probably go on forever:)

YEP i think seven inches BPEL is ridiculous LOL rofl actually if i press against the pubic bone im 7plus yeah but 7 inches is not what i want..
 
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shortdick;653889 said:
YEP i think seven inches BPEL is ridiculous LOL rofl actually if i press against the pubic bone im 7plus yeah but 7 inches is not what i want..

You are supposed to be pressing it firmly against your pubic bone. What is your measurement doing it this way?
 
doublelongdaddy;654098 said:
You are supposed to be pressing it firmly against your pubic bone. What is your measurement doing it this way?

EQ plays an important role here on a good day i get about 7.25, maybe a bit more if i jam the ruler real hard against the pubic bone:P
 
shortdick;654125 said:
EQ plays an important role here on a good day i get about 7.25, maybe a bit more if i jam the ruler real hard against the pubic bone:P

Then that is your official measurement, 7.5" bone pressed. This is the most important of all measurements in length, it shows you if you have gained length regardless of fat pad. n With that said, you are only 1/2" away from your goal:)
 
8Yeah, maybe 8 inches Bone Presed..so lame lol n not bone pressing maybe id get to 7 i just can fucking wait to get there wtf..The goal here is to get bigger n not measuring bone pressing at least thats my idea.:P
 
canelo;654461 said:
@ DLD, with regards to jelqing, I have never really been sure about it either, it seems you need to get into a certain threshold of erection level and maintain it, in order to see results. This is has always been a problem for me as I am never quite sure what % level I am at. I can start at the level I want (usually 30-60%), but as a few minutes go by, my dick is engorged with blood.... it's hard to tell if I am still at a level where I am being productive?

You should be working as close to erect as possible but don't become too obsessed with it. During an average session for me I float from 100% to about 80% and everything in between. I do not use the basic jelq any longer though, I use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words] exclusively.
 
JakeM82;654542 said:
I have barely done any PE this month because of travel. I have to work on my routine again and make some adjustments. I am really struggling with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] as it seems like I just can't avoid getting water retention even at lower pressure and for short sessions and it is effecting my EQ. When I finish up this trip this week, I need to get back to my normal routine.

How long are you sessions Jake in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words]?
 
doublelongdaddy;654553 said:
How long are you sessions Jake in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words]?

Right now I am down to 10 minute sessions 2x5 with Jelqing between and after. I am at about 60-70% max pressure.
 
Still really struggling with my girth routine, not making any real gains and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] is definitely a struggle with Fluid Retention for me. Even for very short sessions at low pressure.

I am going to start focusing more on manual exercises, specifically bundles as the base of my girth routine. What other manual exercises can I start doing for girth? I need to limit my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] sessions to 5 minutes otherwise the FR lasts for over 24 hours.

I feel like I REALLY need to get after these Tunica stretches and part of the reason the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] is not being effective is that my Tunica is just so dang tough so the higher pressure just translates to length expansion but almost nothing in girth even after 15 minutes. Any advice from those of you who have made notable girth gains is appreciated. Length came easy, girth is being a b----.
 
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JakeM82;655572 said:
Still really struggling with my girth routine, not making any real gains and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] is definitely a struggle with Fluid Retention for me. Even for very short sessions at low pressure.

I am going to start focusing more on manual exercises, specifically bundles as the base of my girth routine. What other manual exercises can I start doing for girth? I need to limit my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] sessions to 5 minutes otherwise the FR lasts for over 24 hours.

I feel like I REALLY need to get after these Tunica stretches and part of the reason the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] is not being effective is that my Tunica is just so dang tough so the higher pressure just translates to length expansion but almost nothing in girth even after 15 minutes. Any advice from those of you who have made notable girth gains is appreciated. Length came easy, girth is being a b----.

If 5 minutes is your max and you get in 5 minutes of Jelqs or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] there is no reduction in retention? I think getting in Tunica specific exercises will help with girth overall. In some men the Tunica can be so stubborn that it hinders girth gains, this was big problem I had and this is when I came up with Bundled Stretches. I knew that I was being greatly restricted because of the Tunica so I needed to break that down. After I started incorporating this into my routine girth took off. I struggled very hard for girth in the beginning but after learning how to break down the Tunica I gained like crazy. My first year I only added about 1/2" and this was soon hard. After I came up with Bundles is when my girth really started to grow.
 
doublelongdaddy;655575 said:
If 5 minutes is your max and you get in 5 minutes of Jelqs or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] there is no reduction in retention? I think getting in Tunica specific exercises will help with girth overall. In some men the Tunica can be so stubborn that it hinders girth gains, this was big problem I had and this is when I came up with Bundled Stretches. I knew that I was being greatly restricted because of the Tunica so I needed to break that down. After I started incorporating this into my routine girth took off. I struggled very hard for girth in the beginning but after learning how to break down the Tunica I gained like crazy. My first year I only added about 1/2" and this was soon hard. After I came up with Bundles is when my girth really started to grow.

What's your bundle routine look like? I am currently doing 3x2 minutes in both directions. Then 5 minutes of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] afterwards.

Even if I jelq or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] the FR still remains the same, actually if I do [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s it seems like it get's worse.
 
Today I had some ridiculous fluid retention too. I went to pump then I did the normal jelqs, squeezes, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words], etc. Then I went for round two in the pump while I browsed online for like three minutes, and when I came out had the worst doughnut. I really don't think I needed the round two because my manuals had come along great.

I never do lots of manuals in comparison to pumping during my sessions. Usually just a little bit of pumping, and the rest manual because if i did equal amounts of both I always get really bad fluid.
 
templnite;655662 said:
Today I had some ridiculous fluid retention too. I went to pump then I did the normal jelqs, squeezes, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words], etc. Then I went for round two in the pump while I browsed online for like three minutes, and when I came out had the worst doughnut. I really don't think I needed the round two because my manuals had come along great.

I never do lots of manuals in comparison to pumping during my sessions. Usually just a little bit of pumping, and the rest manual because if i did equal amounts of both I always get really bad fluid.

hmmmm, how long did the swelling persist? Maybe you just need to continue with manuals until your penis becomes used to it. The combination of manuals with pumping you know is the best way to cause expansion.
 
It only lasted some hours, was a isolated incident I think as it hasn't happened since.
 
So I have really started getting serious with adding the Bundles to my routine. What I have found is if I am diligent to do them BEFORE I pump. I get almost 0 Fluid Retention, but if I do not I get bad FR.

As best as I can theorize, because of how tough my tunica is that if I don't stretch if before hand instead of expanding it simply forces my Penis outward in length instead of girth and forces the lymphatic fluid and blood which come into the Penis up near the head right where the tougher part of the Tunica ends. The fluid becomes trapped there is takes time to drain.

However, if I stretch before hand, I get much better expansion overall and my fluid retention is almost non-existent.

What I have also found now, is if I do get FR at all, I can begin a set of bundles focusing on stretching and twisting the tunica in the area where the fluid is currently retained and it reduces significantly through each set. It still takes some time to go away, but where it was taking 48 hours before, it's taking 12 now. So for me, I am just going to keep stretching before my pump sessions.

I have also noticed that where I feel the "dull ache" that comes with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] session has also changed. First it requires higher pressure to feel anything at all, second it is now over the entire penis instead of a sharper pain in just one area under my glans.

I am also trying something new, I found a way to comfortably strap into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] while in a bundle stretch. You have to remove several bars and will not extend as far or for as long (guaranteed), but holy crap will you feel the stretch. By combining a silicone sleeve (the small one from AB Silicone) and the comfort strap which seems to stick to the silicone VERY well. I am able to strap in while rotated 520 degrees and hold that stretch for 30 minutes in each direction. See picture below. Take the top of the device off the bars altogether, then put the base around your penis and push the rods out of the way. Then strap into the top and ensure it is snug and holding well. Rotate yourself to whatever level is possible while still being able to keep the penis in a straight stretch, the pull to the length of the rods, push them down and into the device again. Lengthen to tension as necessary. I am doing about 800g of tension for 30 minutes each direction. Again as a note, I have to take several bars off my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] to be able to strap in, but it works. (Going from about a 9.5" stretch to a 7.5" roughly, non-bone pressed)

View attachment 30828

Hopefully with this new found knowledge I can get back to my routine and make the girth gains I want to make. I'll keep you guys posted on my progress.

To summarize... DLD is the man and bundle stretches are the shit. Nothing further.
 
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^ Props on strapping in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words] like that bro I think you're the first person to figure out how.
 
JakeM82;656211 said:
So I have really started getting serious with adding the Bundles to my routine. What I have found is if I am diligent to do them BEFORE I pump. I get almost 0 Fluid Retention, but if I do not I get bad FR.

As best as I can theorize, because of how tough my tunica is that if I don't stretch if before hand instead of expanding it simply forces my Penis outward in length instead of girth and forces the lymphatic fluid and blood which come into the Penis up near the head right where the tougher part of the Tunica ends. The fluid becomes trapped there is takes time to drain.

However, if I stretch before hand, I get much better expansion overall and my fluid retention is almost non-existent.

What I have also found now, is if I do get FR at all, I can begin a set of bundles focusing on stretching and twisting the tunica in the area where the fluid is currently retained and it reduces significantly through each set. It still takes some time to go away, but where it was taking 48 hours before, it's taking 12 now. So for me, I am just going to keep stretching before my pump sessions.

I have also noticed that where I feel the "dull ache" that comes with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] session has also changed. First it requires higher pressure to feel anything at all, second it is now over the entire penis instead of a sharper pain in just one area under my glans.

I am also trying something new, I found a way to comfortably strap into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] while in a bundle stretch. You have to remove several bars and will not extend as far or for as long (guaranteed), but holy crap will you feel the stretch. By combining a silicone sleeve (the small one from AB Silicone) and the comfort strap which seems to stick to the silicone VERY well. I am able to strap in while rotated 520 degrees and hold that stretch for 30 minutes in each direction. See picture below. Take the top of the device off the bars altogether, then put the base around your penis and push the rods out of the way. Then strap into the top and ensure it is snug and holding well. Rotate yourself to whatever level is possible while still being able to keep the penis in a straight stretch, the pull to the length of the rods, push them down and into the device again. Lengthen to tension as necessary. I am doing about 800g of tension for 30 minutes each direction. Again as a note, I have to take several bars off my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] to be able to strap in, but it works. (Going from about a 9.5" stretch to a 7.5" roughly, non-bone pressed)

View attachment 30828

Hopefully with this new found knowledge I can get back to my routine and make the girth gains I want to make. I'll keep you guys posted on my progress.

To summarize... DLD is the man and bundle stretches are the shit. Nothing further.



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doublelongdaddy;656562 said:
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Got to break down that tunica bro! [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] Bundles for the world!
 
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