Jake's Progress Thread (SiliStretcher, Pumping, and Red Light)

[JakeM82]

Damn jake you're long as fuck

I am really not trying to add length though, I just want to get to 6.5" MEG and I would back down to just maintenance P.E. but the length just keeps adding on. At this point I feel like I just look at my penis and it gets longer.

I find it interesting that some guys just naturally gain, length or girth respectively, but the other one they have to fight for. I can't stop gaining length but I have to work hard as heck to get every bit of girth I have added. Genetics or pre-disposition, or whatever, I think if we understood that better and why it could help a lot of guys too.

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

I am really not trying to add length though, I just want to get to 6.5" MEG and I would back down to just maintenance P.E. but the length just keeps adding on. At this point I feel like I just look at my penis and it gets longer.

I find it interesting that some guys just naturally gain, length or girth respectively, but the other one they have to fight for. I can't stop gaining length but I have to work hard as heck to get every bit of girth I have added. Genetics or pre-disposition, or whatever, I think if we understood that better and why it could help a lot of guys too.

seems like you can gain lenght really easy n yeah we dont know if you are gaining beacuse of genetics or pre-disposition,besides you have gained a lot because of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words].. would like to get to the size you are,you have a real 9 incher n i would like to get to that size too.Thanks for sharing n showing us that gaining is really possible.

 

[ChilDsh]

I am really not trying to add length though, I just want to get to 6.5" MEG and I would back down to just maintenance P.E. but the length just keeps adding on. At this point I feel like I just look at my penis and it gets longer.

I find it interesting that some guys just naturally gain, length or girth respectively, but the other one they have to fight for. I can't stop gaining length but I have to work hard as heck to get every bit of girth I have added. Genetics or pre-disposition, or whatever, I think if we understood that better and why it could help a lot of guys too.

For me it's the other way around...i gain girth very easily,but i struggle with length gains.I started the 5x5x3 routine 4-5 days ago and i can see with the naked eye my dick is thicker,both flaccid and erect.Guess everyone is different.

 

[huge-girth]

I'm also the kind of guy that gains girth easily which is why I'm concentrating on length for now.

 

[DLD]

I am really not trying to add length though, I just want to get to 6.5" MEG and I would back down to just maintenance P.E. but the length just keeps adding on. At this point I feel like I just look at my penis and it gets longer.

I find it interesting that some guys just naturally gain, length or girth respectively, but the other one they have to fight for. I can't stop gaining length but I have to work hard as heck to get every bit of girth I have added. Genetics or pre-disposition, or whatever, I think if we understood that better and why it could help a lot of guys too.

That was me in the beginning of my PE. I gained length so easily but girth was so fucking stubborn. It was only after I created super-set girth workouts that I finally was able to gain a great amount of girth.

 

[JakeM82]

That was me in the beginning of my PE. I gained length so easily but girth was so fucking stubborn. It was only after I created super-set girth workouts that I finally was able to gain a great amount of girth.

That's where I am for girth now, millimeter by millimeter. I am hoping the bundled [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] stretching will lead to a break through as the tunica eventually becomes more and more relaxed and allows for greater expansion, leading to eventually change in Tunica size altogether. Little by little.

 

[templnite]

That's where I am for girth now, millimeter by millimeter. I am hoping the bundled [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] stretching will lead to a break through as the tunica eventually becomes more and more relaxed and allows for greater expansion, leading to eventually change in Tunica size altogether. Little by little.

Oh really? I thought your bundles had destroyed the girth plateau. Wasn't that what started the rave about bundles? Maybe I remember incorrectly

 

[JakeM82]

Oh really? I thought your bundles had destroyed the girth plateau. Wasn't that what started the rave about bundles? Maybe I remember incorrectly

It got things moving, it was the concept of discovering long term tunica stretching using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] that was a break through. We are still testing how this will impact girth grow for those of us who have hit plateaus. I have gone from 5.5 to 5.75 MEG in 2 months though, so I am moving steadily now. It has just been a lot of work to get to here.

 

[Kapitan]

Thanks. And DLD can you help me be able to reset my password? I can't log in through my PC cuz I forgot my password but every time I try to reset it, I never receive the recovery email. What is up with the system. I know three dudes who want to join this forum n get help but i can't if I can't even reset my password

 

[huge-girth]

Jake, I'm doing your experiment tonight. I have a chick to slay so I will be doing 15 minutes bundled stretches right after which I will do 10 X 3 pumping session with my Extreme [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words]. Let's see if I will get those great expansion you talked about.

 

[JakeM82]

Jake, I'm doing your experiment tonight. I have a chick to slay so I will be doing 15 minutes bundled stretches right after which I will do 10 X 3 pumping session with my Extreme [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words]. Let's see if I will get those great expansion you talked about.

Can't wait to hear how it works for you. You will see it have more impact the more days in a row you are consistent with the tunica stretches (or at least I did). It's like the Tunica has to loosen up for expansion.

 

[DLD]

Thanks. And DLD can you help me be able to reset my password? I can't log in through my PC cuz I forgot my password but every time I try to reset it, I never receive the recovery email. What is up with the system. I know three dudes who want to join this forum n get help but i can't if I can't even reset my password

I will PM you your new password.

 

[JakeM82]

So I made the jump and ordered the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] to add to my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] (a lot cheaper than the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] to make the PG), so I will call this the VLGenetics henceforth. I have been the victim of a very tight circumcision and I am looking to do some restoral in that area, but also looking to see if the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] is truly effective for bundled VLGenetics stretching.

For those of you who are [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] users, do you feel it really puts tension on the Penis? Or do you feel the tension more on your skin? Has it helped you make gains outside of foreskin restoration?

 

[huge-girth]

It seems I won't be satisfied when I get to 9inches bone pressed length. I'm saying this because Jake keeps training length even when he has surpassed 9 inches. PE is just too addictive.

 

[goodtogreat]

So I made the jump and ordered the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] to add to my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] (a lot cheaper than the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] to make the PG), so I will call this the VLGenetics henceforth. I have been the victim of a very tight circumcision and I am looking to do some restoral in that area, but also looking to see if the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] is truly effective for bundled VLGenetics stretching.

For those of you who are [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] users, do you feel it really puts tension on the Penis? Or do you feel the tension more on your skin? Has it helped you make gains outside of foreskin restoration?

In my humble opinion, the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] as a combo are purely for healing extended as recommended in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. The active stretch when the devices are used in combination is nothing compared to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] alone or the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] with the strap alone. To me lengthening is 100% about time under tension and the more tension the better, so this is a step backwards to me. I understand using this combo if strapping in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] causes pain, but if there is no pain or you can handle it, its a waste to combine these tools.

However that said, this combo to me is great if you have a mild injury and want to maintain a stretch but that's about it. I can't say whether or not this will add skin for a tight circumcision - perhaps, but I think there are other tools superior to the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for that job on Ron Low's website. So rather than combo these I'd do one or the other if tension is your goal. I'm interested in seeing what your experience is with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] Jake. Keep us posted.

 

[JakeM82]

It seems I won't be satisfied when I get to 9inches bone pressed length. I'm saying this because Jake keeps training length even when he has surpassed 9 inches. PE is just too addictive.

This is more about healing lengthened and skin restoration, I won't be pushing the tension to the place to initiate new length growth (I hope).

 

[Longth]

I wish I had done that now. Length was such a bitch. Almost feel like I should try this just because of how much more effective it sounds.

The theory about weakening the tunica for girth training is pretty solid also. I may have to visit that to some degree for my own routine.

It's good to see someone working to progress the work with some solid reasoning and tenacity. Curious to see how it all plays out for you.

 

[JakeM82]

I wish I had done that now. Length was such a bitch. Almost feel like I should try this just because of how much more effective it sounds.

The theory about weakening the tunica for girth training is pretty solid also. I may have to visit that to some degree for my own routine.

It's good to see someone working to progress the work with some solid reasoning and tenacity. Curious to see how it all plays out for you.

Thanks brother. I will keep it updated as I go along.

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Just got my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] in today. Using it for the first time kind of sucked, so I went back and watched the video on the website and made sure to follow it exactly how it showed and that helped a lot.

It is a very comfortable stretch, I got 2 hours in easy without having to readjust or any noticeable pain or discomfort. I will say this though, if you are like me and have a fairly tight circumcision, you are going to have to make some skin restoration gains before you make any length gains or really put stress on the tunica or ligaments. Since my first goal is to get some skin restoration this is not an issue for me, but for guys who want length gains immediately it might create an issue. Although post session the penis did feel lengthened and malleable like normal [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] use, it was not at the same intensity as most of the stretch was on the skin. I think this will be a back and forth as I make skin gains, and size gains to fill it out (who knows at this point).

I will be using the device for the next month or so and then I will report back my opinion. I am also going to look into mod ideas to work this concept into more of a full penis stretch as looking at the device, I already have some ideas on how to possibly make that happen.

 

[DLD]

Hey Jake, Glad your [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] arrives and you are learning it quickly. The best way I have found to gain more foreskin is a very simple exercise I perform. In a 100% erect state, starting at the base of the penis with an OK grip, now slide all skin up the shaft, over the glans and from there stretch as far as you can. Hold this for 30-60 seconds. A 15 minutes set every other day will get that skin loose in no time.

 

[JakeM82]

An updated photo in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] just for the heck of it. I started adding a silicone sleeve trimmed to fit the area where I get the most fluid retention on my higher pressure pumping sessions. I have found it to be very effective at reducing FR for targeted areas. I am just about 95% of max pressure in these pics, on my 3rd round in my 5x3, so my pump is pretty good at this point.


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[JakeM82]

Hey Jake, Glad your [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] arrives and you are learning it quickly. The best way I have found to gain more foreskin is a very simple exercise I perform. In a 100% erect state, starting at the base of the penis with an OK grip, now slide all skin up the shaft, over the glans and from there stretch as far as you can. Hold this for 30-60 seconds. A 15 minutes set every other day will get that skin loose in no time.

Mike, the problems is, at 100% there is no slack skin to slide up over the glans and stretch... it's completely at it's limit. I think I would actually see some gains if I added space for it .

 

[JakeM82]

Alright, so a few days into using my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]... I have to say that I am still not 100% sure about the device. I have been using it quite a bit and I just don't feel the same fatigue that I feel when using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] in my traditional manner. I really only feel the stretch on my skin, which is fine I guess considering I need that right mow but as far as getting a really good penis stretch in for length gains, I don't feel like it would really do that for me right now. One of my measures of whether I was or am getting a really good stretch workout on the penis is whether or not I get night erections, which has not been happening at the moment.

Now that being said, this could completely be a function of my error or the fact that because of needing to gain skin first I am not able to put stress on the internal structure of the penis. I will be continuing to use the device and will continue to report back. Any feedback from more experienced [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] users is welcome.

 

[Longth]

If it's just that the skin isn't there you really aught to give it time. It's still elongated I'm assuming so you are at least working to cement gains as the foreskin develops. I imagine the problem you're having is that applying more pull is just making the skin at your base pull up, so yea, the actual tension is going to suffer as you work that out.

I have to tell you though, I have been doing 15 minutes of the Mandingo stretch right before [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] just to test out the principal and I got a pump like I'd never seen before. I think it might actually be as good or better to do higher intensity bundles immediately before [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and other girth work.

I can also clearly see a point of overexertion with bundles and girth work throughout the day, so I'd say limit it to twice a day or your junk will look like a horror movie. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] definitely seems to have great synergy because of the even pressure. Kinda makes it a little more uniform. Doing other work makes it a bit more deformed looking but as long as you use [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] after it all gets straightened out pretty nicely.

You'll be there soon.

 

[JakeM82]

Yeah I do high intensity bundles right before my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions as well, it works well for me too.

 

[DLD]

Yeah I do high intensity bundles right before my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions as well, it works well for me too.

What are you noticing so far Jake with the Bundles before training?

 

[templnite]

I know you bundle manually as well as w/sizegenetics, but how long do you think is optimal to use bundles for pre-fatigue purposes?

 

[goodtogreat]

Alright, so a few days into using my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]... I have to say that I am still not 100% sure about the device. I have been using it quite a bit and I just don't feel the same fatigue that I feel when using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] in my traditional manner. I really only feel the stretch on my skin, which is fine I guess considering I need that right mow but as far as getting a really good penis stretch in for length gains, I don't feel like it would really do that for me right now. One of my measures of whether I was or am getting a really good stretch workout on the penis is whether or not I get night erections, which has not been happening at the moment.

Now that being said, this could completely be a function of my error or the fact that because of needing to gain skin first I am not able to put stress on the internal structure of the penis. I will be continuing to use the device and will continue to report back. Any feedback from more experienced [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] users is welcome.

Jake, this is exactly what I experienced - not nearly the same resistance or fatigue. It would appear if you have very little skin available, it would be even more tension right now - but I could be wrong. Hopefully you figure it out, and if/when you do report back - that might spark me to try to use it again. Have you tried using the strap with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] alone? I can get that to work a little better than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. I found the straight up with the shoulder strap to provide the most consistent tension. Either way, I think it will help you get some slack, you should also try pulling your skin to the max when erect - that I know first hand works well.

 

[alienware83]

Jake do you have any erect pictures outside of your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]?

 

[JakeM82]

Jake do you have any erect pictures outside of your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]?

I don't have any for official measurement no, because of my downward curve, measuring while straightening the penis and taking a picture with a camera becomes a troublesome task. There are some girth measurement pictures though my EQ was not great in those.

 

[JakeM82]

I know you bundle manually as well as w/sizegenetics, but how long do you think is optimal to use bundles for pre-fatigue purposes?

I do 1 hour in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], 30 minutes each direction and then 10 minutes manual each direction at higher intensity. I don't know if that's optimal but it's what I am trying right now.

 

[templnite]

I would have hoped you did know as you sort of discovered this pre-fatigue deal. How does your flaccid behave after all that bundling? I only do about twenty minutes of manual high-intensity ones, and I think my flaccid likes that alot as it gets very jelly. If I go past that time then I start wanting to turtle which is when I know its time for [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
Have you ever been successful in doing two girth workouts w/bundles in a twelve hour window? I can't because I give myself allot of fluid which sort of irritates my skin too much for more bundles<

 

[DLD]

I do 1 hour in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], 30 minutes each direction and then 10 minutes manual each direction at higher intensity. I don't know if that's optimal but it's what I am trying right now.

Well it could really make sense, in my mind, that perhaps spending time exclusively on Tunica work may lead to faster gains when a full routine is taken back up. We have a lot of men doing different things that I am trying to coordinate to give some better theory on this ongoing research. So your work here Jake is very important in the way I described.

 

[JakeM82]

What are you noticing so far Jake with the Bundles before training?

I would have hoped you did know as you sort of discovered this pre-fatigue deal. How does your flaccid behave after all that bundling? I only do about twenty minutes of manual high-intensity ones, and I think my flaccid likes that alot as it gets very jelly. If I go past that time then I start wanting to turtle which is when I know its time for [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
Have you ever been successful in doing two girth workouts w/bundles in a twelve hour window? I can't because I give myself allot of fluid which sort of irritates my skin too much for more bundles<

For me personally, I am just more prone to Fluid Retention and EQ impact with pumping then some guys. I know there are some guys on the board who can do two pumping sessions a day and still be rock hard without fluid retention. I am not one of those guys.

Prior to bundling workouts however, even 1 pumping session 3x5 would cause considerable FR. However, adding bundling has decreased my overall Fluid Retention and increased my expansion by an average of about .25".

In the 6 months leading up to starting bundling the way that I am now, I gained .5" in girth but could only do 1 pumping sessions every 2 days. In the 2 months since I have been doing it I have gained .4" (just shy of .5"). If I get that final .1" I will have double my gains over time average for girth.

I have had a recent setback however and have not been able to do PE for almost 10 days now. I have a recent back injury (herniated disk) that I was getting treated when there was an accidental tear of the dural covering, which caused a spinal leak and the need for surgery that happened on Monday. Leading up to that the spinal headaches caused by the leaking fluid kept me flat on my back for 5 days. Needless to say, it sucked.

This incident has set me back off my training schedule and may impact my research numbers, which is unfortunate but was unavoidable. Once I am healthy I will get back on track.

 

[Longth]

That sucks. At least you have a routine that yields results rapidly. Did they give you a prognosis on when you should be able to start moving around without agony?

 

[JakeM82]

What are you noticing so far Jake with the Bundles before training?

That sucks. At least you have a routine that yields results rapidly. Did they give you a prognosis on when you should be able to start moving around without agony?

I've got another 2-3 days of bedrest required. The positive from a work perspective is I am caught up on ALL of my research reading for the year, the negative is I am out of things to watch on Netflix, and that's saying something these days .

 

[Longth]

I've got another 2-3 days of bedrest required. The positive from a work perspective is I am caught up on ALL of my research reading for the year, the negative is I am out of things to watch on Netflix, and that's saying something these days .

At least it's not months. Back injury like that almost sounds like it could have had you in bed way longer. Cringe worthy stuff.

 

[DLD]

At least it's not months. Back injury like that almost sounds like it could have had you in bed way longer. Cringe worthy stuff.

My last back and neck injury was soooooo bad! I was in pain for 9 months and every day and night I was suffering. I went to a PT and after a few sessions we worked it out. I wish I would have went sooner. And the kicker is I was in the middle of a terrible depression. Back and neck pain are nothing to sit with, get to the doctor, get a referral to a PT and work it out.

Suffering with any body injury can effect motivation and ultimately penis enlargement will become difficult. Please take care of yourselves.

 

[JakeM82]

What are you noticing so far Jake with the Bundles before training?

My last back and neck injury was soooooo bad! I was in pain for 9 months and every day and night I was suffering. I went to a PT and after a few sessions we worked it out. I wish I would have went sooner. And the kicker is I was in the middle of a terrible depression. Back and neck pain are nothing to sit with, get to the doctor, get a referral to a PT and work it out.

Suffering with any body injury can effect motivation and ultimately penis enlargement will become difficult. Please take care of yourselves.

Been to the doc, and then some. Getting it taken care of, unfortunately it was during the "getting it taken care of" that the spinal leak was caused. That leads to where we are today. I am working it out and will be back in PT next week hopefully.

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

My last back and neck injury was soooooo bad! I was in pain for 9 months and every day and night I was suffering. I went to a PT and after a few sessions we worked it out. I wish I would have went sooner. And the kicker is I was in the middle of a terrible depression. Back and neck pain are nothing to sit with, get to the doctor, get a referral to a PT and work it out.

Suffering with any body injury can effect motivation and ultimately penis enlargement will become difficult. Please take care of yourselves.

amazing i had a similar situation months ago the pain was so unbereable specially in the morning.i couldnt get off the bed...besides the emotional depressive situation i go trough sometimes, i completely understand you..

 

[templnite]

Hope you get better soon :blush:

 

[JakeM82]

What are you noticing so far Jake with the Bundles before training?

Hope you get better soon :blush:

Thanks bro, I am working on it.

 

[runningignus]

So I hope your not going back to the same doctor. If they're the ones who caused it, never go back. Or was it just your body thinning out the layer over time? If it was them, hope they reimbursed you graciously.

 

[DLD]

Thanks bro, I am working on it.

But any new news gain wise?

 

[JakeM82]

But any new news gain wise?

I haven't measured in this current state. I will check when I get back to my "normal" state.

As far as returning to the same doc, no I did not. I didn't even let them perform the repair and they are going to pay the bill for that and for having the first procedure done again as well. I am lucky to have a very good attorney as one of my closest friends, he was already working the issue as soon as he saw an update from my wife in a group text. Never even had to ask.

 

[DLD]

I haven't measured in this current state. I will check when I get back to my "normal" state.

No rush, I am just looking forward to your results with all the new work you are doing.

 

[JakeM82]

Did some quick measurements and definitely have seen an impact from the injury and lack of training. My EQ is impacted by the back injury currently, so I am not sure I can get a good measurement right now. It seems I have cemented right about 5.7" MEG (no pump), and 8.8" NBPEL, this is after 3 weeks of no training now and with EQ problems related to the disk injury and pain. Not sure whether I will take these as true updates, but I think this may impact my research for the next couple of weeks still. Sorry guys, wish I could get more conclusive data right now, injuries like this are far more impacting then I ever anticipated though.

 

[Longth]

Did some quick measurements and definitely have seen an impact from the injury and lack of training. My EQ is impacted by the back injury currently, so I am not sure I can get a good measurement right now. It seems I have cemented right about 5.7" MEG (no pump), and 8.8" NBPEL, this is after 3 weeks of no training now and with EQ problems related to the disk injury and pain. Not sure whether I will take these as true updates, but I think this may impact my research for the next couple of weeks still. Sorry guys, wish I could get more conclusive data right now, injuries like this are far more impacting then I ever anticipated though.

If those are poor eq measurements then that's pretty damn good though. It's always a bit of a buzz kill when things get in the way like that. Suffice to say what you have been doing has worked for you. Lots of guys don't even have that. You got a nice gainer of a routine to go back to when you're finally up to it again.

The dreaded word patience has to pop in here somewhere.

 

[DLD]

Did some quick measurements and definitely have seen an impact from the injury and lack of training. My EQ is impacted by the back injury currently, so I am not sure I can get a good measurement right now. It seems I have cemented right about 5.7" MEG (no pump), and 8.8" NBPEL, this is after 3 weeks of no training now and with EQ problems related to the disk injury and pain. Not sure whether I will take these as true updates, but I think this may impact my research for the next couple of weeks still. Sorry guys, wish I could get more conclusive data right now, injuries like this are far more impacting then I ever anticipated though.

Jake, just wait to get correct measurements, an injury like you have can really effect the measuring process. I will pray for your speedy recovery and I hope when you are 100% you will come back with a vengeance!

 

[JakeM82]

Jake, just wait to get correct measurements, an injury like you have can really effect the measuring process. I will pray for your speedy recovery and I hope when you are 100% you will come back with a vengeance!

Thanks DLD and Longth, appreciate the encouragement. I just have to be patient and wait things out. Get healthy first, then get training again.

 

[Longth]

Thanks DLD and Longth, appreciate the encouragement. I just have to be patient and wait things out. Get healthy first, then get training again.

I know it's not what you'd want but you're damn huge already. Way bigger than when you popped up months ago. You're a success story already, and when your back is done being an asshole you'll be back at it and probably get more than you were after in the first place. You've got this shit down.

It's not the worst thing to have to take a break either. Just means you'll be rejuvenated and ready to crush it harder when you get back.