Guys, I'm getting really discouraged with my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Sometimes after a days work, I'll measure myself, and I would appear smaller! :(

I'm thinking of just switching to doing exercises, and stretches, but I was wondering.. Do the exercises and stretches give permanent gains, or do you
have to constantly do them throughout your lifetime in order to maintain gains from them?
 
Give a read through [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] .

In short. Use both extending and stretching. Do manual stretches first, then hopefully you're at your max BPFSL so you can wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

No you don't have to PE for the rest of your life. It's talked about that you should do PE up until you reach around .5" over your goals, as this would help cement your gains.
 
Golden Crotch;612534 said:
Guys, I'm getting really discouraged with my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Sometimes after a days work, I'll measure myself, and I would appear smaller! :(

I'm thinking of just switching to doing exercises, and stretches, but I was wondering.. Do the exercises and stretches give permanent gains, or do you
have to constantly do them throughout your lifetime in order to maintain gains from them?

Don't give up on something that will bring great gains, what is the issues you are having so we can help you fix the problem? Most men go through a learning period when they get the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] and it does take practice to master it but once you do it is a incredible way to gain length.
 
doublelongdaddy;612560 said:
Don't give up on something that will bring great gains, what is the issues you are having so we can help you fix the problem? Most men go through a learning period when they get the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] and it does take practice to master it but once you do it is a incredible way to gain length.
Well, as I mentioned in my other thread, I'm using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster Pro[/words]. Here are some of my concerns:

1. Ever since I started using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words], my glans has gone from my more favorable, rounded head-shape to a cone-like shape. Should I worry about this?

2. Last night after taking the device off (after 6 hours of use) my penis was kinda hard while in it's flaccid state. This kinda worried me, though it subsided a few minutes
later. But that never happened before. Also, as I mentioned earlier, I felt like measuring in my erect state just to see if maybe my increase in pull force might be a sign
of some gains. But when I looked, it measured less than when I started PE! It's back to normal now, but after that I'm kinda scared that this thing will shrink my dick. :/

3. I've been looking through different PE forums, for some progress stories for the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words], e.g. here, thunders, and pegym, but I have yet to find any that seems trustworthy. This is another thing that's really discouraging me.

4. I'm kinda concerned that I might have early signs of fluid build up --> View attachment 29662

Not sure if you can see it well on that pic, but basically it looks like a little bump right before my corona. At first I thought this was maybe tunica growth, but I just need to be sure.


Can you give me some tips as to how I should go about this? Like, maybe a suggested regimen to follow combining stretching, jelqing and the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words]? I wanted to use the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] device alone, but I'm thinking now that it might be more effective to use the device along with the penis workouts.



Also, I'm not familiar with all of the acronyms you guys use, so I'd like some help in that department as well.
 
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smerc;612558 said:
Give a read through [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] .

In short. Use both extending and stretching. Do manual stretches first, then hopefully you're at your max BPFSL so you can wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

No you don't have to PE for the rest of your life. It's talked about that you should do PE up until you reach around .5" over your goals, as this would help cement your gains.
I did, but I can't afford all of the equipment right now. I need a regimen that I can just follow with my [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words], and stretches, jelqs.. etc. Also, what's BPFSL? I am so unfamiliar with the acronyms you guys use. Lol

Oh ok, that's good news! But I did see on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] where DLD lost some gains due to wearing tight underwear.. Will I lose gains if my morning wood is tight against my pants, or if I sleep with my little guy in a tight position? o.o
 
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Golden Crotch;612640 said:
I did, but I can't afford all of the equipment right now. I need a regimen that I can just follow with my [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words], and stretches, jelqs.. etc.

Was meaning just the basics of what you have. The manuals/extending portion and whatever else that doesn't cost $$$ (until you get time/$$$ for that stuff).
 
smerc;612649 said:
Was meaning just the basics of what you have. The manuals/extending portion and whatever else that doesn't cost $$$ (until you get time/$$$ for that stuff).
Do you think I could still reach my goal with just the PM Pro and manual exercises? I think I wanna go a little over 8" so I can have concrete gains as you said.

So let's say I wanted to be like 7.5". Does that mean that if I stop at gaining up to 8" that more than likely my penis will shrink down to 7.5" and the 7.5" will then be permanent?
 
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I've also noticed that my EQ isn't as good since my last extending day with the PM Pro. I decided to take a break of 2 days. Do you think that's enough, or should I wait a little longer?

Also, is it normal for your testicles to feel cold after extending? Today I felt my testicle skin, and it feels kinda crusty. What's up with that?
 
Golden Crotch;612676 said:
I've also noticed that my EQ isn't as good since my last extending day with the PM Pro. I decided to take a break of 2 days. Do you think that's enough, or should I wait a little longer?

Also, is it normal for your testicles to feel cold after extending? Today I felt my testicle skin, and it feels kinda crusty. What's up with that?

When you are feeling fatigue I suggest you keep on stretching as this is when you can make the best length gains. Yes, poor eq sucks but this type of fatigue allows us to stretch the penis with little to no resistance from the pelvic floor muscles. If you plan sex around eq and you can time it just right you can have excellent eq when needed but take advantage of the time when you are fatigued to get the extra stretching in.
 
Golden Crotch;612674 said:
Do you think I could still reach my goal with just the PM Pro and manual exercises? I think I wanna go a little over 8" so I can have concrete gains as you said.

So let's say I wanted to be like 7.5". Does that mean that if I stop at gaining up to 8" that more than likely my penis will shrink down to 7.5" and the 7.5" will then be permanent?

You could revert back .5", less, or more. It really depends on how your body adapts to the changes/stresses.

Some people gain up to 1.0-1.5" and some more w/ just extending/manuals. What are your current numbers?
 
smerc;612843 said:
You could revert back .5", less, or more. It really depends on how your body adapts to the changes/stresses.

Some people gain up to 1.0-1.5" and some more w/ just extending/manuals. What are your current numbers?
I'm about 5.5" length, and 4.7" girth. And apparently according to the LOT theory, I'm a hard-gainer.
 
Whaaaaaaaaaaat? I wish you had told me that sooner. XD I took a whole 2 days off for nothing!

Ok, I trust you DLD. I was kinda worried because I did some involuntary kegels while wearing the device (I was kinda tense about something at the time). So I thought maybe I injured myself, by doing them, because afterward I got hard flaccid. But should I always work through this type of fatigue? How do I know when it's too serious to work through?

Also, please consider my other post, DLD. Do you think I might have some early signs of bad fluid build up? I'm really not sure I want to continue with the PM Pro. This thing seems to be deforming my glans head. I miss my old shape.. :(

Do you think a head piece from the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] would be compatible with the rest of the PM rod [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?
 
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Ok, smerc and DLD. I've been thinking about doing these manual routines every day until I can get enough money for a different [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]: JP's 90 Day routine + [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] + bigbedu's routine that gave him some pretty good size = 30 min jelq in the morning, PC routine (need a reference for this one), and 30 min jelq at night. Do you think this would be effective for some serious, permanent gains? Also, would the above be too much jelqing? Lol I ask about this too, because I wanna make sure I don't go at it too hard and end up injuring myself.


Oh, more questions come to mind:

What is the ideal time limit on warming up before and after sets while using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]? And how important is it to warm up while using one.. like what would happen if I don't?

Since much of bodybuilding and PE principles are very relatable, do you think foods that are especially good for the penis would help with gains?
 
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You really only need the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] from here. Not sure about the other routine.

The whole routine takes around 18-21minutes (depending if you leave cranks out).

Too much jelqing? That really depends. I would give it a go and see how your penis responds.
If you're doing that much jelqing. I would throw in some edging along side of it.

You can do 2 manual stretch routines (1x morning, 1x ETC time) and space out your girth routine or do that later in the day.

If you have problems applying the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] after girth work, then I would probably do that @ another time (the girth work).
What you want is a manual stretch routine, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] throughout the day (@ work/ETC), then a mixed routine(length/girth), then [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] until bed.

Later on I would invest in a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] and do the sets in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words].

Some days you might mix/match one for the other (length/girth).

Just do a routine that naturally flows throughout the day and w/ your life. There is nothing worse than being frustrated and not wanting to do a workout because you hate it, you may eventually slack off and not do it altogether (= no gains).

I think targeting 1 thing after a while until you see that it works is crucial. It's better to get motivation from that rather than someone elses gains on a forum.

This will help w/ figuring out what your penis can take and the residual impacts on EQ or just injuries in general.
Nobody can really say that x number of blahblah can will cause an injury. You just have to gauge yourself and see what you can handle.

There are exercises that can be more prone to injuries though in small and large quantities done. I don't hear much about people doing large quantities of jelqs and injuring themselves. There is a waiting game though if you do injure yourself, so don't go back into a routine immediately if this happens. Post on here w/ the problem and how it happened and someone might get back to you w/ a similar experience.

What is the ideal time limit on warming up before and after sets while using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]? And how important is it to warm up while using one.. like what would happen if I don't?

Ideal time: After your manual routine would suffice. You're mainly wanting to stretch everything out so you can reach your max BPFSL inside the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. However you get to this point is up to you.

I believe that it's important, but there could be others that disagree or just don't even take part in warm ups/downs. Again, if you're able to reach your max BPFSL, then just go w/ whatever makes you reach it, even if you don't have to do any type of warmups.

What happens if you don't? You save time and you might not reach your max BPFSL.

Will it cause an injury? I have yet to see any correlations to not warming up/down to injuries. It really depends on how intensive the workouts are. If there was a widespread issue of not warming up and causing injuries as a result of it (lack of warmup), then there would be shit plastered all over the forum about it. It's really just speculation from what I see. There is sufficient evidence that heat helps collagen fibers and also makes them more pliable, other then that it's really specific to the person.


I think a good diet is good (as far as a fat pad goes and erection quality). There can be blood born/hormonal/neurological issues related to EQ. A bad diet can cause each of these.

I include supplementation w/ diet and not just foods. Just foods having an impact on PE routines/growth? That's really debatable. There are so many macro/micro nutrients that can play a role in overall growth. I think you should work on your diet though if you were ever debating on fixing this part of your life. Hopefully someone w/ more knowledge on the topic might post here w/ more information. Will you not see that extra inch because you're eating junk everyday? No, PE is a long process and you will get those nutrients overtime to repair/build what's needed.
 
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You really only need the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] from here. Not sure about the other routine.
So just the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie routine[/words], and not JP's 90-day one? If I did the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] alone (no [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and nothing else), would that give me some great permanent gains?


Too much jelqing? That really depends. I would give it a go and see how your penis responds.
If you're doing that much jelqing. I would throw in some edging along side of it.
What's edging?


What you want is a manual stretch routine, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] throughout the day (@ work/ETC), then a mixed routine(length/girth), then [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] until bed.
Okay, but let's say I drop the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for now. Would just doing manuals produce some good, permanent results?


There are exercises that can be more prone to injuries though in small and large quantities done. I don't hear much about people doing large quantities of jelqs and injuring themselves. There is a waiting game though if you do injure yourself, so don't go back into a routine immediately if this happens. Post on here w/ the problem and how it happened and someone might get back to you w/ a similar experience.
I feel like you and DLD are contradicting each other here. He's saying to work through fatigue for better gains, or did I misunderstand him? Is there a difference between fatigue and injury? I thought I had injured myself when my EQ plummeted, ...but I guess I didn't?


I believe that it's important, but there could be others that disagree or just don't even take part in warm ups/downs. Again, if you're able to reach your max BPFSL, then just go w/ whatever makes you reach it, even if you don't have to do any type of warmups.

What happens if you don't? You save time and you might not reach your max BPFSL.
What does BPFSL stand for?
 
Golden Crotch;612955 said:
What's edging?
It's like masturbating to around an 8-9, before you're about to cum. It's just when you're most likely @ you're MAX EQ. A lot of people see girth gains just from this alone (edging).


Golden Crotch;612955 said:
Okay, but let's say I drop the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for now. Would just doing manuals produce some good, permanent results?
Golden Crotch;612955 said:
So just the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie routine[/words], and not JP's 90-day one? If I did the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] alone (no [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and nothing else), would that give me some great permanent gains?

You can look @ both. I haven't looked @ JP's routine since a few years. I think they're pretty much the same. DLD's being older and has been revised a few times?

I would stick w/ the basic manual routine. I think it's the same across the boards.

People can go far w/ gains w/ just manuals. Just depends on dedication.
I can't really answer the other. Some people don't go far w/ certain things in terms of gains. Some have to do more experienced exercises like hanging.
I think if you stay dedicated and stick w/ the manuals, you will see something. Depends on what you mean by good.

:cool:


Golden Crotch;612955 said:
I feel like you and DLD are contradicting each other here. He's saying to work through fatigue for better gains, or did I misunderstand him? Is there a difference between fatigue and injury? I thought I had injured myself when my EQ plummeted, ...but I guess I didn't?

They're not the same in PE. Fatigue is more of a symptom, an injury is an action which results in inflammation/bleeding/scar tissue formation(peyronies plaque)/urology bills/ETC.

You just experienced fatigue through exhaustion.
Working through fatigue means just that. Almost like exercising when you're sore the next day. Sometimes you get sore during a workout and don't want to complete those last 2 reps, but you stick it out.

Golden Crotch;612955 said:
What does BPFSL stand for?

Bone pressed flaccid stretch length or just FSL(flaccid stretch length). It's just you pulling @ the head and seeing what your flaccid length is.
It really doesn't matter which one it is, you just want your max flaccid stretched length. Otherwise, you would just put on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] w/ no tension.
The tension you set your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to will take care of the rest.
 
It's like masturbating to around an 8-9, before you're about to cum. It's just when you're most likely @ you're MAX EQ. A lot of people see girth gains just from this alone (edging).
Good deal. But when you say to around 8-9, do you mean stopping 8-9 times before I cum?


Bone pressed flaccid stretch length or just FSL(flaccid stretch length). It's just you pulling @ the head and seeing what your flaccid length is.
It really doesn't matter which one it is, you just want your max flaccid stretched length. Otherwise, you would just put on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] w/ no tension.
So what you're saying is if I don't warm up, it's best to use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with no tension?



Btw, thanks for answering my other questions. It helped a lot! Knowing my analytical mind though, I'll probably have more within a day or maybe even in the next few hours. Lol
 
Golden Crotch;612978 said:
So what you're saying is if I don't warm up, it's best to use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with no tension?

Strating out light and progressively working up to your maximum strength would be considered a good warmup, this is how I warm up.
 
Golden Crotch;612978 said:
Good deal. But when you say to around 8-9, do you mean stopping 8-9 times before I cum?


I mean 8-9 on a where you're about to cum level.

Golden Crotch;612978 said:
So what you're saying is if I don't warm up, it's best to use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with no tension?

Btw, thanks for answering my other questions. It helped a lot! Knowing my analytical mind though, I'll probably have more within a day or maybe even in the next few hours. Lol


No. You need tension. Otherwise you wouldn't be extending. People recommend around the 900-1100g mark.
 
I mean 8-9 on a where you're about to cum level.
Wow, that's gonna take some serious self control. Am I allowed to cum at all after doing that, or do I keep it in until I gain the size? O:


No. You need tension. Otherwise you wouldn't be extending. People recommend around the 900-1100g mark.
I think I had gotten there right before I stopped. It was weird because, the day before, I was only able to withstand 460g without it feeling uncomfortable. Then my tolerance level just jumped. I guess I stopped digging right before I hit the gold..
 
Golden Crotch;613122 said:
Wow, that's gonna take some serious self control. Am I allowed to cum at all after doing that, or do I keep it in until I gain the size?


After a good girth workout there is nothing wrong with shooting one off. I always do this and after I shoot off I get a good 5-10 minutes of basic stretching in to take advantage of the fatigued state the penis is in after orgasm.
 
doublelongdaddy;613363 said:
After a good girth workout there is nothing wrong with shooting one off. I always do this and after I shoot off I get a good 5-10 minutes of basic stretching in to take advantage of the fatigued state the penis is in after orgasm.
That's a relief. :blush:

So is that the general principle for gains in length? When fatigued is always the best time to stretch?

Also, I did some jelqing today for the first time. I only did 50 because I just wanted to get myself familiar with the motion and feeling. I gotta say, it did wonders for my EQ. Is that why most people jelq after stretching? I mean right after my jelq session, I went from Mr. Limpy to Mr. Iron within a matter of seconds. :cool:
 
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Golden Crotch;613449 said:
That's a relief. :blush:

So is that the general principle for gains in length? When fatigued is always the best time to stretch?

I would assume so, but I will let DLD to back get you on that.

I do it regardless. As long as I'm not injured or am trying to retain EQ.
I know w/ hanging it's advised to push through fatigue. That's all you really hear anymore.
 
smerc;613452 said:
I would assume so, but I will let DLD to back get you on that.

I do it regardless. As long as I'm not injured or am trying to retain EQ.
I know w/ hanging it's advised to push through fatigue. That's all you really hear anymore.
Oh yeah, that reminds me of another thing I wanted to ask. How can I know when a pain inside my penis is an indication of damage/injury vs fatigue?

Being a newbie here, you can imagine that when I search up "penis enlargement or jelqing" on wikipedia.org, the very statement of them saying that stuff like this can permanently damage the blood vessels would make me proceed with caution.
 
Most are things you generally report back on the forums, about how you feel.
I never really had an injury, just numbness. So I can't tell you how one feels in the penis.
Before the numbness there was a sting that felt like it went all the way up my dorsal nerve. I stopped immediately and the numbness kept for a few days.
Any type of stinging, tearing feeling (not to be mistaken by skin stretching in some cases), or mass throbbing of nerves.

I never heard of any jelqing problems other than discolorations, red dots, more prominent veins, and bruising.

You don't want numbness or to tear your tunica. Numbness can take time to heal, sometimes months, and sometimes not @ all.
Tunica tears don't repair themselves from what I read (if you keep doing PE). Some could if it's not that big and not PE related (IE: you keep pulling @ stuff).
A large enough tear can cause plaque (peyronie's) and a large enough tear in a shitty position/place can cause a penis bend.

Fatigue for me is like an ache in the penis and there is one in the ligs as well. There can also be residual soreness which I can quite a bit.
People have different interpretations of fatigue and some don't even reach it (during/after). I also classify exhaustion as fatigue as well (more of an after PE thing I guess).
 
Most are things you generally report back on the forums, about how you feel.
I never really had an injury, just numbness. So I can't tell you how one feels in the penis.
Before the numbness there was a sting that felt like it went all the way up my dorsal nerve. I stopped immediately and the numbness kept for a few days.
Any type of stinging, tearing feeling (not to be mistaken by skin stretching in some cases), or mass throbbing of nerves.

I never heard of any jelqing problems other than discolorations, red dots, more prominent veins, and bruising.
So what do you think you did wrong that caused the sting, leading to the numbness? Are those too be worried about if I get them from jelqing, and what causes them in the first place?



You don't want numbness or to tear your tunica. Numbness can take time to heal, sometimes months, and sometimes not @ all.
Tunica tears don't repair themselves from what I read (if you keep doing PE). Some could if it's not that big and not PE related (IE: you keep pulling @ stuff).
A large enough tear can cause plaque (peyronie's) and a large enough tear in a shitty position/place can cause a penis bend.
Holy crap. How can I know if I'm on the verge of tearing? Like what kind of pain should I pay attention to while stretching/exercising my penis?



Fatigue for me is like an ache in the penis and there is one in the ligs as well. There can also be residual soreness which I can quite a bit.
People have different interpretations of fatigue and some don't even reach it (during/after). I also classify exhaustion as fatigue as well (more of an after PE thing I guess).
Well, I did have an ache, and it was kinda painful to be erect, so I assume that's what fatigue should feel like?



Oh, another thing I wanted to ask. I remember you saying, you're supposed to shoot for .5 past your goal. Is that for length and girth? Or is it different for girth?
 
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Just remember PE is very experimental,and dangerous if your not informed
I have a lymphocele and I'm pretty bummed about it
 
Golden Crotch;613474 said:
So what do you think you did wrong that caused the sting, leading to the numbness? Are those too be worried about if I get them from jelqing, and what causes them in the first place?

Bad attachment w/ hanging.
I never had it from jelqing, but I don't jelq anymore. You might get a slight numbness after jelqing. You're really working your shaft w/ nerve responses and they could become overworked after a routine.

Golden Crotch;613474 said:
Holy crap. How can I know if I'm on the verge of tearing? Like what kind of pain should I pay attention to while stretching/exercising my penis?

Those layers are pretty tough. Usually that type of shit happens while erect. It's more of a rupture.

Golden Crotch;613474 said:
Well, I did have an ache, and it was kinda painful to be erect, so I assume that's what fatigue should feel like?

I never had pain when getting erection that was attributed to PE.
Where was the pain at (just below the head?)? What exercises were you doing? Was it the jelqs?
 
Bad attachment w/ hanging.
I never had it from jelqing, but I don't jelq anymore. You might get a slight numbness after jelqing. You're really working your shaft w/ nerve responses and they could become overworked after a routine.
So how do other guys avoid this? I really wanna do jelqing because of the girth benefits.



Those layers are pretty tough. Usually that type of shit happens while erect. It's more of a rupture.
I guess that might explain my slight curve after wearing the PM for all these weeks.. There were times when I would keep getting erect while wearing it.



I never had pain when getting erection that was attributed to PE.
Where was the pain at (just below the head?)? What exercises were you doing? Was it the jelqs?
I got the pain from using my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. That was the same time I had measured myself and I appeared to be smaller. DLD said it was fatigue, but I wanted to be sure. See, what exactly happened was. I was using my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], and I kinda did some kegels while wearing it, because I was tense about something at the time. I also had the pull force like 500g above what I normally have it on, but there was no discomfort whatsoever. Then what I took the device off, I had a hard flaccid. The next day, I couldn't get erect as quickly, and the erections were kinda painful.


The jelqs I did yesterday actually alleviated this, and my erection came back with less pain.
 
tkto;613475 said:
Just remember PE is very experimental,and dangerous if your not informed
I have a lymphocele and I'm pretty bummed about it
My thoughts exactly. Which is why I'm gathering so much info on the risks/pros of different stretching/excersises before I make my next move.

Wow, I'm sorry to hear that. How did that happen? :(
 
I noticed another thing about my penis after using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] for those several weeks. It slightly sticks out at the ligaments when 70-80% flaccid. It doesn't seem to just drop straight down unless it's really small flaccid. Is that normal after using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?
 
Golden Crotch;613650 said:
I noticed another thing about my penis after using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] for those several weeks. It slightly sticks out at the ligaments when 70-80% flaccid. It doesn't seem to just drop straight down unless it's really small flaccid. Is that normal after using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?

this is porbably a sign of the inner penis having been pulled out
 
Golden Crotch;613564 said:
So how do other guys avoid this? I really wanna do jelqing because of the girth benefits.


Proper warmups. Paying attention to your penis and how it reacts during/after. Making sure no sharp internal pains are being triggered.
Eventually you're just going to have to give in.

Golden Crotch;613564 said:
I guess that might explain my slight curve after wearing the PM for all these weeks.. There were times when I would keep getting erect while wearing it.

Not sure what you mean by this in reference to my quote. Erections w/ vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are nothing to worry about. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] w/ it's belt might be a different story.


Golden Crotch;613564 said:
The next day, I couldn't get erect as quickly, and the erections were kinda painful.
Golden Crotch;613564 said:
The jelqs I did yesterday actually alleviated this, and my erection came back with less pain.

Usually things go back to normal within a few days in the PE game. Post back here if they ever don't.

It could had been a blister below the glans and under the skin if it was in a targeted area. Not sure why else that would cause pain.

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Golden Crotch;613650 said:
It slightly sticks out at the ligaments when 70-80% flaccid. It doesn't seem to just drop straight down unless it's really small flaccid. Is that normal after using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?

Sorry I missed this.

You're referring to your erection angle correct?

My erection angle usually stays the same.

Are you extending @ a certain position?
 
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jordey;613658 said:
this is porbably a sign of the inner penis having been pulled out

Ok, that's what I thought. I just got kinda worried because I saw in another thread where someone posted a guys schlong and it looked exactly like the way mine does when when in that erect/flaccid state. They were talking about peyronie's disease looked like.
 
smerc;613662 said:
Proper warmups. Paying attention to your penis and how it reacts during/after. Making sure no sharp internal pains are being triggered.
Eventually you're just going to have to give in.
Alright, but when you say "give in" what do you mean exactly?



Not sure what you mean by this in reference to my quote. Erections w/ vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are nothing to worry about. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] w/ it's belt might be a different story.
Well, since you mentioned tunica tearing, and peyronie's causing a curve, I kinda thought that I might have a slight case of that, but my curve is more of a twist. I think I just made a mistake here. My penis looks kinda twisted to the right because of the way I used to masturbate with my left hand, and I was also thinking (based on what you were saying about the tunica tearing) that maybe I did something while wearing the device to make it twist a little bit more. Of course, all of this could've just been in my head and nothing more.





Usually things go back to normal within a few days in the PE game. Post back here if they ever don't.

It could had been a blister below the glans and under the skin if it was in a targeted area. Not sure why else that would cause pain.
So fatigue shouldn't cause any kind of ache when erect?

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Sorry I missed this.

You're referring to your erection angle correct?

My erection angle usually stays the same.

Are you extending @ a certain position?
Yeah, I actually meant to say 70-80% erect. Basically when it's engorged, but not hard. I've been extending straight out.
 
Golden Crotch;613687 said:
Alright, but when you say "give in" what do you mean exactly?

"Give in". Just meaning to attempt things rather than speculate on all the possibilities of injury to the point where you might not put in enough intensity to achieve gains. Yes we have to take precautions. Especially since this is our penis and we can't afford an injury.

Golden Crotch;613687 said:
Well, since you mentioned tunica tearing, and peyronie's causing a curve, I kinda thought that I might have a slight case of that, but my curve is more of a twist. I think I just made a mistake here. My penis looks kinda twisted to the right because of the way I used to masturbate with my left hand, and I was also thinking (based on what you were saying about the tunica tearing) that maybe I did something while wearing the device to make it twist a little bit more. Of course, all of this could've just been in my head and nothing more.

We create microtears over time. It's a part of deformation and growth aside from having your cells mold/divide to a new stretched state. What you don't want is a macrotear (I should had went into detail on "tearing" in my earlier posts). This is what creates the scar tissue to the point where it can plaque up and can eventually create a bend in the penis.

The device should fix a bend overtime due to the reopening or dissolving of plaques within the tissue(s). The elongation in a stretched state is the key principle on why it helps in that way.

Some peoples bends don't get fixed. Some people use topicals along w/ elongation and they still don't get fixed. It really depends on the bend itself and the state of scar tissue(if any) that reside near the bend.

Golden Crotch;613687 said:
So fatigue shouldn't cause any kind of ache when erect?

Where was the ache? You said pain before and now you're saying ache.
I see aches more as a dull pain and then there's a sting or nerve type pain. They can also be aches as well. Really helps to pinpoint where the ache/pain thingymajig is happening.

Golden Crotch;613687 said:
Yeah, I actually meant to say 70-80% erect. Basically when it's engorged, but not hard. I've been extending straight out.

Extending against your erection angle could cause a change overtime. I never had this happen, but people have alluded to it.
Jelqing against your erection angle is usually the go to move for bend fixing.
Then there are topicals and pumping.
 
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Golden Crotch;613449 said:
That's a relief. :blush:

So is that the general principle for gains in length? When fatigued is always the best time to stretch?

Yes, in my opinion the best time to stretch is right after orgasm as the penis is too tired to resist the intensity. I follow a girth workout followed by ejaculation followed by stretching on most days.
 
doublelongdaddy;613837 said:
Yes, in my opinion the best time to stretch is right after orgasm as the penis is too tired to resist the intensity. I follow a girth workout followed by ejaculation followed by stretching on most days.
Interesting... very interesting. This is a wealth of knowledge. Thanks, DLD!

Btw, if you have any other tips on the best timing with other PE exercises, please don't hesitate to give me more info/references. I'm really hungry for my PE education. :O
 
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"Give in". Just meaning to attempt things rather than speculate on all the possibilities of injury to the point where you might not put in enough intensity to achieve gains. Yes we have to take precautions. Especially since this is our penis and we can't afford an injury.
Yeah, you're right. I guess trial and error here is inevitable.



We create microtears over time. It's a part of deformation and growth aside from having your cells mold/divide to a new stretched state. What you don't want is a macrotear (I should had went into detail on "tearing" in my earlier posts). This is what creates the scar tissue to the point where it can plaque up and can eventually create a bend in the penis.

The device should fix a bend overtime due to the reopening or dissolving of plaques within the tissue(s). The elongation in a stretched state is the key principle on why it helps in that way.

Some peoples bends don't get fixed. Some people use topicals along w/ elongation and they still don't get fixed. It really depends on the bend itself and the state of scar tissue(if any) that reside near the bend.
Oh I see. Well it doesn't appear that I have any problems in that department. But I'm glad you told me about that. So is this caused by too much intensity applied too soon?



Where was the ache? You said pain before and now you're saying ache.
I see aches more as a dull pain and then there's a sting or nerve type pain. They can also be aches as well. Really helps to pinpoint where the ache/pain thingymajig is happening.
It felt like it was just below the glans in the upper shaft area, which is where I felt it strongest, then it kinda went slightly lower than that, but the lower it went, the weaker the pain was (little to none at all). I'm sorry if I confused you. I was thinking of ache and pain to be the same thing (or at least in the same boat).

But this ache/pain didn't sting. It just felt like how a muscle would feel after working it out, e.g. kinda swollen feeling, achy, not necessarily a sharp sensation, but close. So I guess maybe it was just fatigue, but I wanted to be sure. Also, I think you missed my other question. I was wondering about girth. You said I should go .5 beyond my goals to help cement my gains, but did you mean that for both girth and length, or just length?
 
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Golden Crotch;614090 said:
Yeah, you're right. I guess trial and error here is inevitable.



Oh I see. Well it doesn't appear that I have any problems in that department. But I'm glad you told me about that. So is this caused by too much intensity applied too soon?



It felt like it was just below the glans in the upper shaft area, which is where I felt it strongest, then it kinda went slightly lower than that, but the lower it went, the weaker the pain was (little to none at all). I'm sorry if I confused you. I was thinking of ache and pain to be the same thing (or at least in the same boat).

But this ache/pain didn't sting. It just felt like how a muscle would feel after working it out, e.g. kinda swollen feeling, achy, not necessarily a sharp sensation, but close. So I guess maybe it was just fatigue, but I wanted to be sure. Also, I think you missed my other question. I was wondering about girth. You said I should go .5 beyond my goals to help cement my gains, but did you mean that for both girth and length, or just length?

that pain sounds like fatigue after a good stretch.

as for cementing, yes its generally advised to go half an inch past both length and girth
 
Golden Crotch;614085 said:
Interesting... very interesting. This is a wealth of knowledge. Thanks, DLD!

Btw, if you have any other tips on the best timing with other PE exercises, please don't hesitate to give me more info/references. I'm really hungry for my PE education. :O

Well, in girth work I like to do it right before sexual activity. I make my girth session the goal to accomplish before I allow myself to have an orgasm. My goal is always to cause expansion beyond my 100% erect girth size. When I accomplish this the prize is orgasm.
 
Golden Crotch;614090 said:
So is this caused by too much intensity applied too soon?


Are you referring to a macrotear or bends in general?


Golden Crotch;614090 said:
But this ache/pain didn't sting. It just felt like how a muscle would feel after working it out, e.g. kinda swollen feeling, achy, not necessarily a sharp sensation, but close. So I guess maybe it was just fatigue, but I wanted to be sure. Also, I think you missed my other question. I was wondering about girth. You said I should go .5 beyond my goals to help cement my gains, but did you mean that for both girth and length, or just length?

It could be a slight nerve issue, but it sounds more like fatigue.

As the others said. It's wise to go above your length/girth @ around .5+ to be safe. This isn't scientific. It's more statistic. Maybe based upon the size decreases some users may experience overtime after time off. I think that's what it's based on.
 
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