Sometimes i don't believe

deadwood187 · Nov 24, 2015

ChilDsh;675515 said:
Can we ban this guy?

Yep, that seems to be the game on these boards. DRINK THE KOOL AID OR ELSE...If I am banned or not it won't change a damn thing. You haven't gained and you won't gain. Whether I am here or not won't change a damn mm in your penis length.
If you did really gain 1" you would care less what I say and be confident in your "gains"...but we both know you are a liar or shill....or an idiot savant,

Longth · Nov 24, 2015

deadwood187;675518 said:
Yep, that seems to be the game on these boards. DRINK THE KOOL AID OR ELSE...If I am banned or not it won't change a damn thing. You haven't gained and you won't gain. Whether I am here or not won't change a damn mm in your penis length.
If you did really gain 1" you would care less what I say and be confident in your "gains"...but we both know you are a liar or shill....or an idiot savant,

Kinda matters that you're a prick.

People don't usually like pricks. And you're not even one of the clever ones. Not even remotely backable. Zero charisma. Seriously equivalent to a tumor growing in the forum at this point.

Wouldn't you ban you?

(Sample response dialogue; I'm not a prick. You're just being mean because I said things. I'm definitely right and you're all stupid)

Yea, I think if we're being honest here we both know you aught to go.

IVEADREAM · Nov 24, 2015

deadwood187;675517 said:
Who said I am frustrated? I see this as a game, like HYIP. It's all bull but it's fun to play. I work from home so trying this stuff is no skin off my ass.It doesn't work. Trust me. You gained nothing, the idiot throwing a temper tantrum didn't gain. Your anger and insults towards me comes because I pulled the curtain on the wizard and you guys don't like it. If you grew your penis you would not give a flying F%^& what I say. You are angry because you think you "may" grow in the future but you can't discount what I say- which is you haven't and won't gain. End of story. The anger comes not because you gained,it comes because none of you gained but want to believe so hard that you will gain that you lash out in anger.

Uhm I'm not angry with you man I was actually trying to be considerate and get your side of the story. I guess this is where it ends. Thanks for playing. Have a good life my friend.

deadwood187 · Nov 24, 2015

Longth;675520 said:
Kinda matters that you're a prick.

People don't usually like pricks. And you're not even one of the clever ones. Not even remotely backable. Zero charisma. Seriously equivalent to a tumor growing in the forum at this point.

Wouldn't you ban you?

(Sample response dialogue; I'm not a prick. You're just being mean because I said things. I'm definitely right and you're all stupid)

Yea, I think if we're being honest here we both know you aught to go.

So basically I don't repeat the mantra and I am a prick. You know I think you are a prick and you are not being truthful. Just a dumb bully upset his small penis will never grow. Deal with it. It's all bull and zero proof is offered. So how can I be "honest". Is this honest " I GAINED 2 INCHES BY JELQ ALONE AND BATHMATE MADE ME GAIN ANOTHER 2"". Am I honest now? LOL. I honestly believe one dude has numerous handles here. You'll get your wish (since you probably run the site). I will get banned. Wont change the facts- this is all smoke and mirrors.2" mirrors. Let's face it- if tugging your penis 2 hours a day made it grow every single male would be doing it. Why don't they? Because they are smart and not selling a dream.

JakeM82 · Nov 24, 2015

deadwood187;675524 said:
So basically I don't repeat the mantra and I am a prick. You know I think you are a prick and you are not being truthful. Just a dumb bully upset his small penis will never grow. Deal with it. It's all bull and zero proof is offered. So how can I be "honest". Is this honest " I GAINED 2 INCHES BY JELQ ALONE AND BATHMATE MADE ME GAIN ANOTHER 2"". Am I honest now? LOL. I honestly believe one dude has numerous handles here. You'll get your wish (since you probably run the site). I will get banned. Wont change the facts- this is all smoke and mirrors.2" mirrors. Let's face it- if tugging your penis 2 hours a day made it grow every single male would be doing it. Why don't they? Because they are smart and not selling a dream.

There are so many documented gains on multiple P.E. sites that this claim is simply ridiculous. I am really sorry that you haven't gained man, that sucks, it really does. However, if you are willing to actual chill out with the attitude there would be a lot of people on here who could probably help you figure out why YOU specifically haven't gained and help you overcome that barrier.

People are not pissed about you saying gaining isn't possible, people are pissed that you would come here just to try to call everyone a liar. You are challenging the character of everyone present here, that's why it ruffles feathers, not because they aren't confident in their gains or because you pulled back the curtain on some massive conspiracy to sell us all a lie (because you're oh so much wiser than us all).

Your logic is tragically flawed, in that you believe that simply because YOU have not gained, nobody can gain, or has gained ever. You come here simply to try to ruffle feathers, and to piss people off intentionally to make up for the fact that you have not had the same results, and in the hope that this will help you feel better about your failure. It won't, you're wrong, and it does in fact make you appear like a "prick" (as previously stated).

deadwood187 · Nov 24, 2015

JakeM82;675527 said:
There are so many documented gains on multiple P.E. sites that this claim is simply ridiculous. I am really sorry that you haven't gained man, that sucks, it really does. However, if you are willing to actual chill out with the attitude there would be a lot of people on here who could probably help you figure out why YOU specifically haven't gained and help you overcome that barrier.

People are not pissed about you saying gaining isn't possible, people are pissed that you would come here just to try to call everyone a liar. You are challenging the character of everyone present here, that's why it ruffles feathers, not because they aren't confident in their gains or because you pulled back the curtain on some massive conspiracy to sell us all a lie (because you're oh so much wiser than us all).

Your logic is tragically flawed, in that you believe that simply because YOU have not gained, nobody can gain, or has gained ever. You come here simply to try to ruffle feathers, and to piss people off intentionally to make up for the fact that you have not had the same results, and in the hope that this will help you feel better about your failure. It won't, you're wrong, and it does in fact make you appear like a "prick" (as previously stated).

Can you show me where I said I never gained? I said 99% of what you read here is bullshit.

templnite · Nov 24, 2015

Everybody flag him for trolling >

acromegaly · Nov 24, 2015

ban plz ^

JakeM82 · Nov 24, 2015

deadwood187;675529 said:
Can you show me where I said I never gained? I said 99% of what you read here is bullshit.

So you are saying you have gained, but EVERYONE ELSE is full of shit? Happy to let you clarify.

deadwood187 · Nov 24, 2015

JakeM82;675533 said:
So you are saying you have gained, but EVERYONE ELSE is full of shit? Happy to let you clarify.

I am saying it is "possible" to gain but 99% of the claims are bullshit.

JakeM82 · Nov 24, 2015

deadwood187;675535 said:
I am saying it is "possible" to gain but 99% of the claims are bullshit.

Maybe there are some BS claims, certainly there is heavy marketing material exaggerating them. What there is not, is a broad sweeping conspiracy on a forum of people seeking to achieve the same goals, instead trying to deceive each other and make no progress in the mean time. That's asinine. Go through and really read this forum, read the support, the willingness of forum brothers to try to help one another, find routines that work and celebrate the gains of others and I think you will see that the culture you believe exists to deceive is in fact the exact opposite.

You are entitled to your opinion, but don't confuse that entitlement of yours with us being mandated to agree or accept it. Disagreement and antagonism are two starkly different things, you are performing the latter in your posts. Re-examine your approach and you might actual get an interesting conversation instead of an argument.

IVEADREAM · Nov 24, 2015

deadwood187;675396 said:
Notice my join date. I have tested it. I have tested about 20 devices diligently. Nothing works. It's all bullshit...but you already know that. The only thing that works in this "game" is Photoshop and pressing in a ruler so hard in the "after" pics it punctures your liver.

Ring a bell? Looks to me like you said "Nothing works, It's all bullshit" kinda sounds like you were saying it's impossible and that you haven't gained anything.

Damn it, I can't get away from this thread. It's like a car wreck, I can't look away.lol

DLD · Nov 24, 2015

JakeM82;675537 said:
Maybe there are some BS claims, certainly there is heavy marketing material exaggerating them. What there is not, is a broad sweeping conspiracy on a forum of people seeking to achieve the same goals, instead trying to deceive each other and make no progress in the mean time. That's asinine. Go through and really read this forum, read the support, the willingness of forum brothers to try to help one another, find routines that work and celebrate the gains of others and I think you will see that the culture you believe exists to deceive is in fact the exact opposite.

You are entitled to your opinion, but don't confuse that entitlement of yours with us being mandated to agree or accept it. Disagreement and antagonism are two starkly different things, you are performing the latter in your posts. Re-examine your approach and you might actual get an interesting conversation instead of an argument.

Great response Jake! Let me add that dishonest claims may come out of over websites but, for the most part, MOS Brothers and the gains they have made are very real. Why would we have so many Brothers here, everyday, writing about their gains, their progress, their pictures or video. Belief is very important in making changes happen, if you doubt the validity of PE it makes it more difficult to gain. I wish every Brother here could prove themselves as I did as there is no denying my claims, they have been confirmed by many major media outlets including Salon, KING, GQ, Channel 4, Playboy or any of the other interviews and confirmation of my gains.

deadwood187 · Nov 24, 2015

doublelongdaddy;675539 said:
Great response Jake! Let me add that dishonest claims may come out of over websites but, for the most part, MOS Brothers and the gains they have made are very real. Why would we have so many Brothers here, everyday, writing about their gains, their progress, their pictures or video. Belief is very important in making changes happen, if you doubt the validity of PE it makes it more difficult to gain. I wish every Brother here could prove themselves as I did as there is no denying my claims, they have been confirmed by many major media outlets including Salon, KING, GQ, Channel 4, Playboy or any of the other interviews and confirmation of my gains.

Not true. I have always been skeptical. Still am. My wife cut out anal and BJ, complains with vaginal (is she getting older or am I getting bigger???). I don't measure but I am consistent with it. So take that as you will. Belief has zero to do with this. If you put in the time, that is what matters.

JakeM82 · Nov 24, 2015

deadwood187;675552 said:
Not true. I have always been skeptical. Still am. My wife cut out anal and BJ, complains with vaginal (is she getting older or am I getting bigger???). I don't measure but I am consistent with it. So take that as you will. Belief has zero to do with this. If you put in the time, that is what matters.

Since we are playing semantics with words... He did not say impossible, he said more difficult.

You are right, if you put in time that is what matters. I completely agree with that statement... time, consistency, dedication are what bring gains. Anyone who has those things can gain, tools are only relevant in that they make certain types of exercises easier or automated (ie. the SizeGenetics stretching my penis right now while I type).

So we've come full circle now, I feel like we've made a real breakthrough in this session today... That'll be $350.00 USD. :cool:

deadwood187 · Nov 24, 2015

JakeM82;675556 said:
Since we are playing semantics with words... He did not say impossible, he said more difficult.

You are right, if you put in time that is what matters. I completely agree with that statement... time, consistency, dedication are what bring gains. Anyone who has those things can gain, tools are only relevant in that they make certain types of exercises easier or automated (ie. the SizeGenetics stretching my penis right now while I type).

So we've come full circle now, I feel like we've made a real breakthrough in this session today... That'll be $350.00 USD. :cool:

Well here's another thing: My medium bell on the vac hanger doesn't even fit me anymore. The vachanger made my foreskin massive but my wife says my head looks "infected" (her way of saying it's bigger since I don't tell her what I do). When I got my Vac I fit in no problems. Now I need the lube it comes with. The question is: Did my penis get bigger or did my skin stretch to monstrous proportions? My foreskin is so large that I can't even put my penis in my wife's vagina anymore.

BigBeardBig · Nov 24, 2015

deadwood187;675552 said:
Not true. I have always been skeptical. Still am. My wife cut out anal and BJ, complains with vaginal (is she getting older or am I getting bigger???). I don't measure but I am consistent with it. So take that as you will. Belief has zero to do with this. If you put in the time, that is what matters.

Oh man no! I feel sorry for you there, those are the best !

JakeM82 · Nov 24, 2015

deadwood187;675559 said:
Well here's another thing: My medium bell on the vac hanger doesn't even fit me anymore. The vachanger made my foreskin massive but my wife says my head looks "infected" (her way of saying it's bigger since I don't tell her what I do). When I got my Vac I fit in no problems. Now I need the lube it comes with. The question is: Did my penis get bigger or did my skin stretch to monstrous proportions? My foreskin is so large that I can't even put my penis in my wife's vagina anymore.

Maybe take some time off from the Vac Hanger bro? You might have some fluid retention in your foreskin because of the vacuum pressure.

EDIT: Also, try some Hyrdo-Cortisone cream to help with any swelling temporarily.

LONGERDICK7+ · Nov 24, 2015

Maybe measuring bone pressing means nothing to that guy, he wants to see massive NBPEL gains...

maybe he needs to follow the DLDS newbie routine literally..n see if the routine is bull. or if it really works..

kyomoto · Nov 24, 2015

You know what? Let them be skeptical. In the end it's their choice to follow through or not. He can say whatever he wants. Does not matter.

We shouldn't try to convince people, instead we should just mention that it is a thing that is possible and let the curiosity of the individual flow to the extent of pursuing PE or not. That is it.

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