girth gains stalling due to adaption?

Satyr · Jul 25, 2013

Hey guys.
I'm somewhat let down by the impression that my gains always seem to come to a halt whenever I go on with a new exercise for more than 2 or 3 weeks. I had very fast initial gains with the classic jelq in my beginner phase (0.25" in 4 weeks). After that I had 3 month break because of an injury. So I resumed my workout at the beginning of this year, continually implementing SSJs. That induced a second growth boost, that brought me another quarter inch. But during the last 4 months or so I wasn't able to recognize or to measure any progress. Sometimes I doubt my perception and even more my measurements, since I'm always not so sure If I measure at the same EQ level, at the same point of the shaft etc (length is so much easier to measure!). the numbers tend to oscillate within a certain spectrum.
I guess It would be smart to buy a cock ring for various reasons (healing, simplifying the execution of certain exercises), but what I could I do beyond that? Is it possible, that my dick accommodates very fast to specific stimuli? Anony else have this problem?
Also I'd appreciate some brainstorming-like input about the most effective girth exercises you've made experiences with (besides SSJing and classic jelqs). I'm a bit into clamping now after having read Jkobs success story with the ebony cutie:cool: But I only do them manually and for about 2-3 minutes.
What about the girth blasters routine by DLD (and modifications of it)?
thx in advance, guys

LoveHerDeeply · Jul 26, 2013

Read through srt and come up with a dedicated girth routine.

The below are kinda ranked in order of basic to middle to advanced moves. Work your way down as you get experience.

-jelqs
-hydropump (by itself)
-ssjs
-Hydropump 5x5x3 routine. 5 Mins pump 5 Mins SSJs, repeat 3x.
-ulis
-isos. Isolated compression squeezes.
-ballooning
-edging but not orgasm
-clamping
-Redz frendos

No matter how easy or hard your girthwork is, put on cockring during or after girth session to help heal expanded. Helps cement today's gains today.

Put some or all of those elements into a routine you can find the time for bro.

For you it would see mixing and matching are in order. Like do something different all the time. Work up an a, b, c routine and roll dice to put something different off that list into it every 2 weeks.

I've wait it so often it needs to go into my sig:
Consistency, intensity, duration and multiplex attack will lead to gains.

Really examine your last 3 months in each of those areas. Were you slack in any one of them? There's your issue. Fix it.

Satyr · Jul 29, 2013

your reply is very much appreciated, LHD. Thank you very much. I guess my problem is located in the "multiplex attack" department, maybe a lack of intensity sometimes, since I had serious fatigue issues some week sago and kept it in on a low level to maintain my potence. But now I'm back on track with the intensity since my cock seems to be well adapted to a really intense routine with SSJs and the likes. I added some milder version of reds frendoz (2-3 minute reps) and the isolated compression squeeze

that being said, I have a further question: do you guys consider fatigue as a necessary index of a successful workout? I know from more than a decade of heavy athletics that fatigued muscles aren't necessarily a sign of growth, but what about that in Penis Enlargement?

one more: what's the fuzz about Ulis if you have SSJs? I don't really grasp the advantage of implementing that exercise if it's nothing else than a SSJ without the extra pressure from the top (except from the single-handed execution which simplifies things sometimes).

Again, thank you so much for your contribution, but still: I'd appreciate some inspiration from the other bros here, too. Cheers!

jakb · Jul 29, 2013

I personally do not consider fatigue necessary, especially for a girth workout. I think in that realm it is definitely a negative. With a length workout I would say fatigue is more likely but not necessary. I personally believe if I cant use my cock at a moments notice then what good is it being larger...

I agree with the multiple angles attack especially for guys that notice their plateaus as easily as you do. Sounds like you need to change it up quite a bit to maintain moving forward.

Ulis can more specifically used for head growth. http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?35463-What-is-an-Uli&highlight=uli Pretty good description there

Satyr · Jul 30, 2013

Ok, thanks. Will also go for the Uli No.3. So I'd love to hear from you guys which further girth exercises kick ass in your opinion. Ideally with a link because the search function doesn't run on my browser anymore. I don't know why that is.

I got the following on my list now:
1. classic jelqs
2. SSJ
3 Uli #3
4.Frendoz
5 isolated compression squeezes

jakb · Jul 30, 2013

Satyr;558956 said:
Ok, thanks. Will also go for the Uli No.3. So I'd love to hear from you guys which further girth exercises kick ass in your opinion. Ideally with a link because the search function doesn't run on my browser anymore. I don't know why that is.

I got the following on my list now:
1. classic jelqs
2. SSJ
3 Uli #3
4.Frendoz
5 isolated compression squeezes

Look into the clamping section before considering the Frendoz. You dont want to jump into that one without being experienced at clamping. Clamping is another hugely impressive way to gain girth. You should also look at hydropumps. In my opinion they are the best way to get girth out of all of the options.

Google search whatever you are looking for and mattersofsize and you will get a good search list. The search feature here seems to be down recently. I personally use the google method. Highly effective.

Satyr · Jul 31, 2013

got no money left for a hydropump or other advanced equipment. Clamps aren't expensive. Maybe I'll try that in time. But right now, I do the frendoz just with my hands (clamp off the base manually, then put my dick on a hard underground and use my other hand to inflict pressure form the top), which is intense but - as I figure - much less intense than the equipped version.

btw: thx for the google search technique adivce

jekyllnhyde360 · Jul 31, 2013

Hey Satyr, im going to be real honest with you, iso comp squeezes and ssj are you best bet for manual exercises and frendos with the device!

If I May, Ill type in the routine for girth that brings me 3/4'' expansion everytime I do it!

so basicly what ive found is stretching keep my erection hard (I know it sounds weird), when im fatigued if I do streches that morning I get harder! even just 2-3 minutes of stretching!
I do 2 on. 1 off
so basicly , now for the real stuff!
there's a few things I have to explain.

1. I do my manual work ---clamped, why?
because I get a tighter clamp off at the base, plus I hold my exercises for 60 sec each atleast, so if I get tierd of squeezing with one hand I can use the other without letting go of the base!
once finished I open the clamp slightly, stimulat, kegel, re-close the clamp and do another squeeze.

2. I do sort of super-sets, so I do a 60 sec ssj, then I do a 60 sec erect stretch (very good for expansion), then I do a 60 sec iso comp squeeze..... all of these are clamped like I mentioned above.

3. I do these for 20 min and get as much expansion as I can, because the secong part is were the real expansion comes in!

after doing those girth exercises I get quite good expansion, especially from the clamped erect stretches because when your blood dosent have anywhere to go and you squeeze your shaft like a iso comp squeeze and add a pulling away motion wich bring the clamp forward increasing the pressure, you get FUCKING huge expansion plus your creating expansion in 2 way width and length wise wich we usually don't get in girth exercises!
Now for the finale I do another 20-25 min of frendos, wich utilises the expansion already created to push further expansion DRAMATICALY, I mean I get 1/2 to 3/4 '' of expansion everytime!
this whole routine takes about 50 min!

2 on 1 0ff like I said above
so there you have it, plain and simple this really creates expansion. hope you enjoy!

Zambrodom3 · Jul 31, 2013

LoveHerDeeply;558621 said:
The below are kinda ranked in order of basic to middle to advanced moves. Work your way down as you get experience.

-jelqs
-hydropump (by itself)
-ssjs
-Hydropump 5x5x3 routine. 5 Mins pump 5 Mins SSJs, repeat 3x.
-ulis
-isos. Isolated compression squeezes.
-ballooning
-edging but not orgasm
-clamping
-Redz frendos

So this is how you rank them actually? Shouldn't edging and balooning go for one of the easier (more non-effective) exercises. Thanks for your answer in advance

jekyllnhyde360 · Jul 31, 2013

DO the routine I wrote above!!!! im not joking , im being very serious ... if you WANT gains ... you have to do intense manual work and the exercises in the routine I posted above are the most intense exercises your going to get...Penis EnlargementRIODE!

im not knocking pumps and all that stuff, but you can get the best expansion ever using your hands, a clamp, and some manual exercises !
plus no friggin' water retention, it's all real expansion!

DLD · Jul 31, 2013

jekyllnhyde360;559043 said:
DO the routine I wrote above!!!! im not joking , im being very serious ... if you WANT gains ... you have to do intense manual work and the exercises in the routine I posted above are the most intense exercises your going to get...Penis EnlargementRIODE!

im not knocking pumps and all that stuff, but you can get the best expansion ever using your hands, a clamp, and some manual exercises !
plus no friggin' water retention, it's all real expansion!

Of course it is the best routine!

Zambrodom3 · Jul 31, 2013

jekyllnhyde360;559043 said:
DO the routine I wrote above!!!! im not joking , im being very serious ... if you WANT gains ... you have to do intense manual work and the exercises in the routine I posted above are the most intense exercises your going to get...Penis EnlargementRIODE!

im not knocking pumps and all that stuff, but you can get the best expansion ever using your hands, a clamp, and some manual exercises !
plus no friggin' water retention, it's all real expansion!

Wow! You sure got me following that one

AndroidR · Jul 31, 2013

jekyllnhyde360;559040 said:
Hey Satyr, im going to be real honest with you, iso comp squeezes and ssj are you best bet for manual exercises and frendos with the device!

If I May, Ill type in the routine for girth that brings me 3/4'' expansion everytime I do it!

so basicly what ive found is stretching keep my erection hard (I know it sounds weird), when im fatigued if I do streches that morning I get harder! even just 2-3 minutes of stretching!
I do 2 on. 1 off
so basicly , now for the real stuff!
there's a few things I have to explain.

1. I do my manual work ---clamped, why?
because I get a tighter clamp off at the base, plus I hold my exercises for 60 sec each atleast, so if I get tierd of squeezing with one hand I can use the other without letting go of the base!
once finished I open the clamp slightly, stimulat, kegel, re-close the clamp and do another squeeze.

2. I do sort of super-sets, so I do a 60 sec ssj, then I do a 60 sec erect stretch (very good for expansion), then I do a 60 sec iso comp squeeze..... all of these are clamped like I mentioned above.

3. I do these for 20 min and get as much expansion as I can, because the secong part is were the real expansion comes in!

after doing those girth exercises I get quite good expansion, especially from the clamped erect stretches because when your blood dosent have anywhere to go and you squeeze your shaft like a iso comp squeeze and add a pulling away motion wich bring the clamp forward increasing the pressure, you get FUCKING huge expansion plus your creating expansion in 2 way width and length wise wich we usually don't get in girth exercises!
Now for the finale I do another 20-25 min of frendos, wich utilises the expansion already created to push further expansion DRAMATICALY, I mean I get 1/2 to 3/4 '' of expansion everytime!
this whole routine takes about 50 min!

2 on 1 0ff like I said above
so there you have it, plain and simple this really creates expansion. hope you enjoy!

What "permanent" gains have you made since starting this routine, and how long have you been doing it for?

jekyllnhyde360 · Jul 31, 2013

When I first came up with this routine, I had just finished phase 1 , and hadn't got any girth at all, so I tried clamping and that didn't work either ( atleast not the way most people tell you to do them!) because they say you get hard, kegel, clamp for 10 min and leave it alone but I just wasn't getting expansion over maybe 0.1!
so I decide to turn it up a notch and started messing around with different execises and stuff when I realised that if I use the clamp like a uli and just open it after each exercise I get so much more expansion by the end of the session.

after this I tried to get the most expansion I could per workout and found those exercises to be the most beneficial.
then I stumbed upon some post by RED and he layed it down for me, so after I finaly understood what he did to gain all that girth it only made sense to follow what he wrote me!
so I started clamped erect stretching because it was the same as the tug-o-war (tow) exercise red came up with wich help girth length wise (its all in his guide if you can find it)
and finale I added the frendos after much time dedicated to finding the best width exercise.
see one thing about width is that it works overall girth as well, so if you get major expansion from regular exercises then add width exercises at the end your probly going to get an extra 1/4 to 1/2 '' expansion.
After that it was just putting it all together!
I went from 4 and 3/4 to 5 and 1/4 in just 2 short months , but I didn't keep going long enough so I lost a quarter but still its been 1 year and I gained 1/4 inch in 2 months, and I prob would have kept the extra qurter if I had gone 1 more month to cement it!
(that would have been a 1/2 inch gain in 3 months) Pretty crazy!
anyways im 5'' now (or was befor I start pe again 6 weeks ago) but I haven't been under 5.5 in 3 weeks , everytime I measure even on days off im 5.5!
so, I hope that answered your questions!
OH ya, one last thing I now use a cock ring or clamp for 30-40 min after each session just to lightly keep expansion!

jakb · Jul 31, 2013

jekyllnhyde360;559081 said:
then I stumbed upon some post by RED and he layed it down for me, so after I finaly understood what he did to gain all that girth it only made sense to follow what he wrote me!

Great girth routine man. Thank you for throwing it out there. Clamping just doesnt get looked at as much since Red has been gone. Do you happen to still have that post from Red I quoted you on above?
I used to do a lot of clamping and gained significantly from them in the past and still do with the limited amount I do them now. Totally forgot about how much I used to like Iso Comp Squeezes. Its funny when you do this long enough what you can forget.
When you do your erect stretches are you just pulling straight out or do you vary directions also? And are you just pulling from the glans area or also using the clamp to tug some also?

Thanks man

AndroidR · Jul 31, 2013

jekyllnhyde360;559081 said:
When I first came up with this routine, I had just finished phase 1 , and hadn't got any girth at all, so I tried clamping and that didn't work either ( atleast not the way most people tell you to do them!) because they say you get hard, kegel, clamp for 10 min and leave it alone but I just wasn't getting expansion over maybe 0.1!
so I decide to turn it up a notch and started messing around with different execises and stuff when I realised that if I use the clamp like a uli and just open it after each exercise I get so much more expansion by the end of the session.

after this I tried to get the most expansion I could per workout and found those exercises to be the most beneficial.
then I stumbed upon some post by RED and he layed it down for me, so after I finaly understood what he did to gain all that girth it only made sense to follow what he wrote me!
so I started clamped erect stretching because it was the same as the tug-o-war (tow) exercise red came up with wich help girth length wise (its all in his guide if you can find it)
and finale I added the frendos after much time dedicated to finding the best width exercise.
see one thing about width is that it works overall girth as well, so if you get major expansion from regular exercises then add width exercises at the end your probly going to get an extra 1/4 to 1/2 '' expansion.
After that it was just putting it all together!
I went from 4 and 3/4 to 5 and 1/4 in just 2 short months , but I didn't keep going long enough so I lost a quarter but still its been 1 year and I gained 1/4 inch in 2 months, and I prob would have kept the extra qurter if I had gone 1 more month to cement it!
(that would have been a 1/2 inch gain in 3 months) Pretty crazy!
anyways im 5'' now (or was befor I start pe again 6 weeks ago) but I haven't been under 5.5 in 3 weeks , everytime I measure even on days off im 5.5!
so, I hope that answered your questions!
OH ya, one last thing I now use a cock ring or clamp for 30-40 min after each session just to lightly keep expansion!

Nice. I've gained about a half inch in 3 months as well using the Bathmate/ssj superset routine, but I think my gains are starting to slow down. Maybe i could get another half inch from your routine

LoveHerDeeply · Jul 31, 2013

Zambrodom3;559041 said:
So this is how you rank them actually? Shouldn't edging and balooning go for one of the easier (more non-effective) exercises. Thanks for your answer in advance

In kinda 3 major groups as I wrote... I should broken them up.

Edging is tricky to dance that edge without orgasm... its harder in kinda the "art of edging" sense. I keep going over anyway, which ruins the girth session.
Ballooning, ulis, Isos I get great red spots on the head... so that's why I put those in my middle difficulty Grip in my mind. You try each and rank them.-)

Satyr · Aug 1, 2013

great write up, Jekyll! Thanks a lot. I'd be interested as well if you stretch just in one direction. And would a cock ring be an equivalent alternative to clamps?
Also I'd be very pleased if there are some german speaking guys out here who could tell what the f... I gotta look for to find "clamps". My craftsmanship abilities are not very sophisticated to say the least and my research for a vaild translation only led me to stuff like this: http://www.google.com/images?q=Kabe..._group&ei=ih76UaPiFofNtAacu4DoDQ&ved=0CCQQsAQ
Thanks.

Edit: to add some info and experimental values from my side, I can confirm Jekyll's point, that under normal circumstances you have to go for 20 minutes to get to an expansion level that allows the really effective girth work... from then on. I'm often under the impression that the last 10 minutes of my workouts are the best. I guess I have to lengthen my routine (which I'm not very pleased about, but ok. Nobody says it's easy).
That being said, I have also to state, that the right mental state is absolutely quintessential to a successful workout! If I'm aroused up front, 5 or 10 minutes will do the job of a thorough "warm up". If I'm not, I won't succeed at all and just have wasted my time (at least, this is the impression I always have in such cases).
Cheers, brothers!

jekyllnhyde360 · Aug 1, 2013

Hey guys im glad you all find it to be a worthy girth routine, because it truly will bring fantastic gains!
But about some of your questions:
Jakb, thanks for the nice comment man, I appreciate it!
as for the posts with Red I did a lot of back and forth messaging with him on alot of his different clamping posts, one's such as the ATS ROLLERS post im all up in their.
but the biggest thing was the old Redzulu clamping guide , I have it saved on my computer, if some one could help me figure out how to load it on here I would! (im a little tech retarted) But I know it's still around here somewhere it's called the Guide, ill see if I can find it and link it! Ok, I found it but I don't know how to link it so here it is:
GO to redzulu's clamping universe section go to page 9 find the post that says were can I get the guide by Redzulu! the post is by remiii , and when you open it the link is like the next answer! Hope that helps

AndriodR you could deff bring I some extra gains, try it out! can't hurt right1

Satyr, im Glad you liked it, and thank you for your nice comments!
As for what direction I stretch while doing clamped erect stretches, I like to stretch straight out, and downward! so the first one I do will be straight outward, and the next time I get to clamped erect stretches after doing a ssj or iso comp squeeze, ill pull outward but on a downward angle.
also sometime ill slowly and controlled move stretch from side to side but I only do this after im done the actualy workout for like 1 min.
also as for the clamp
http://www.cableclamp.com/store.html that's what your looking for! the medium sized clamps

AndroidR · Aug 2, 2013

jekyllnhyde360;559128 said:
but the biggest thing was the old Redzulu clamping guide , I have it saved on my computer, if some one could help me figure out how to load it on here I would! (im a little tech retarted) But I know it's still around here somewhere it's called the Guide, ill see if I can find it and link it! Ok, I found it but I don't know how to link it so here it is:
GO to redzulu's clamping universe section go to page 9 find the post that says were can I get the guide by Redzulu! the post is by remiii , and when you open it the link is like the next answer! Hope that helps

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