GABA

SlamInTheLamb · Sep 25, 2003

Still, the dosage I'm taking is twice your amount and in powder form. This may have something to do with the 'tingling'.

Last night I ate late and didn't have any sensations so I think an empty stomach (as recommended) it a key.

8 isn't enough · Sep 25, 2003

In some research circles, GABA is referred to as the “anxiety” amino acid for its function in the utilization of one of the B vitamins, niacinamide, also known as B3. In a normally functioning brain, niacin is encouraged to bind with the benzodiazepine receptors, and the body is better able to deal with stressors. If the diet is low in niacin, or the body cannot utilize it properly, stress plays a big factor in the brain function. As many ADHD sufferers will tell you, stress causes them to blank out, and no amount of encouragement will allow them to recover normal function until the stressor is removed, or the sufferer is removed from the stress. In the normal scope of untreated ADHD, the child may learn to arouse himself to anger to “jumpstart” his brain, one of the many reasons that about 80 percent of male child diagnoses with ADHD are also diagnosed with Oppositional Defiance Disorder or ODD.

http://fl.essortment.com/whatgaba_rcdb.htm

From this, is looks like it is great for ADHD. Someone said the tingles felt like taking Niacin. Maybe this is the reason?

Also, C-Guy/Still I will buy your remaining GABA is you decide to quit!

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ItsElectric · Sep 25, 2003

Originally posted by 8 isn't enough
In some research circles, GABA is referred to as the “anxiety” amino acid for its function in the utilization of one of the B vitamins, niacinamide, also known as B3. In a normally functioning brain, niacin is encouraged to bind with the benzodiazepine receptors, and the body is better able to deal with stressors. If the diet is low in niacin, or the body cannot utilize it properly, stress plays a big factor in the brain function. As many ADHD sufferers will tell you, stress causes them to blank out, and no amount of encouragement will allow them to recover normal function until the stressor is removed, or the sufferer is removed from the stress. In the normal scope of untreated ADHD, the child may learn to arouse himself to anger to “jumpstart” his brain, one of the many reasons that about 80 percent of male child diagnoses with ADHD are also diagnosed with Oppositional Defiance Disorder or ODD.

http://fl.essortment.com/whatgaba_rcdb.htm

From this, is looks like it is great for ADHD. Someone said the tingles felt like taking Niacin. Maybe this is the reason?

Also, C-Guy/Still I will buy your remaining GABA is you decide to quit!

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I believe I too had ADHD, but lately I've been purely focused on what I'm supposed to be doing (thinking of ways to get into this college, planning out my money use for moving into an apartment etc.. I love this stuff!

I feel this stuff mostly before I head to bed. *takes pills waits like 2 hours, then goes to bed*

-ItsElectric

C-Guy · Sep 25, 2003

I am going to reduce the dosage for a while and see what that does.. Still had trouble breathing for about an hour after taking the last dose. Not your fault 8 at all. It probably has something to do with all the other meds that I am currently on. After 50 plus mini strokes in three years ( had a bad one last week) I am just being very careful.

stillwantmore · Sep 25, 2003

I took 3 grams before going to bed at 1:00 a.m. this morning...slept until 11:00 this morning. Some of the best sleep I have had in a while.

SnakePlissken · Sep 25, 2003

Sounds like you are having a reaction identical to what I posted a few spaces above.

SnakePlissken · Sep 25, 2003

Originally posted by 8 isn't enough
In the normal scope of untreated ADHD, the child may learn to arouse himself to anger to “jumpstart” his brain, one of the many reasons that about 80 percent of male child diagnoses with ADHD are also diagnosed with Oppositional Defiance Disorder or ODD.

http://fl.essortment.com/whatgaba_rcdb.htm

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What is this ODD? Is it just crankiness from hell that guys do? Or is it a real psychological ailment?

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8 isn't enough · Sep 25, 2003

It's a term used for children that throw fits all the time and won't listen to any authority figure.

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ApostleInTriumph · Sep 25, 2003

Is that a disorder? I'd say that's the way to go

SnakePlissken · Sep 25, 2003

Shit, every kid has that disease then. There goes Psychology with its made up epidemics.

ApostleInTriumph · Sep 28, 2003

A question for 8
What is the difference between a secretagogue and GABA? I read that Glutamine, Lysine, Ornithine and certain peptides are amino acid secretagogues. Now GABA is also an amino acid and theoretically stimulates endo-HGH release, so isn't it also an amino acid secretagogue? Also have you come across any studies comparing GABA with Lysine, Glutamine, etc? What made you go for GABA instead of the above? Thanks

8 isn't enough · Sep 28, 2003

Yes, HGH is made up of 191 amino acids. I haven't seen a comparison chart as of yet.

L-arginine is also known for the relaese of HGH but, from I have seen, more in the elderly rather than the young.

I went with GABA because of its ability to calm you.

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ApostleInTriumph · Sep 28, 2003

Here's an article you might find interestng -
http://www.hghacademy.com/human-growth-hormone/article01.htm

Also-
rHGH study on bone and collagen - (28 days)
http://www.hghacademy.com/human-growth-hormone/article48.htm

HGH intake may not help in anti ageing - (author supported by Eli Lilly, Genentech )
http://www.hghacademy.com/human-growth-hormone/article71.htm

8 isn't enough · Sep 28, 2003

Glutamine is a GABA precursor if I recall. Great find though. I have seen these before. My thinking is that it may help with Penis Enlargement but who knows?

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8 isn't enough · Sep 30, 2003

I just recently stacked GABA with L-Arginine and L-Ornithine. This is my 3rd day doing it and my pants no longer fit. 3g L-Arginine with 2g L-Ornithine and a total of 4.5g of GABA.

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ApostleInTriumph · Sep 30, 2003

Couldn't understand.. what exactly do you mean? I thought waist size has nothing to do with muscle gain! So have you put on fat or what??

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ApostleInTriumph · Sep 30, 2003

Man, if not for your being a BioChem wiz I'd think you are a junkie!! :D So what has GABA done to you so far? Anything noticible? Also how long do you plan to cycle? I think atleast 4 months? The only reason I'm not jumping into it is I'm kinda scared that it might affect the natural balance (level of secretion) by the pituitary in the long run. Any idea on this?

8 isn't enough · Sep 30, 2003

Originally posted by ApostleInTriumph
Couldn't understand.. what exactly do you mean? I thought waist size has nothing to do with muscle gain! So have you put on fat or what??:

I'm loosing body fat. My pants are too big...

Man, if not for your being a BioChem wiz I'd think you are a junkie!! :D So what has GABA done to you so far? Anything noticible? Also how long do you plan to cycle? I think atleast 4 months? The only reason I'm not jumping into it is I'm kinda scared that it might affect the natural balance (level of secretion) by the pituitary in the long run. Any idea on this?

I'm trusting others who have tried similar stacks before with no long term side effects. Science has shown that the pituitary gland continues to produce HGH all through life. But still a possibility.....

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finalsight · Oct 1, 2003

8, are you just taking them or are you combining with diet and exercise? how much have you lost from your waist, and how much weight you lost?

8 isn't enough · Oct 1, 2003

Originally posted by finalsight
8, are you just taking them or are you combining with diet and exercise? how much have you lost from your waist, and how much weight you lost?

I'm not exercising at all. My diet is whatever is around (college student) I have not weighed myself, all I know is that my pants dont fit anymore. I'm probably a 32 waist again, from a 34.

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