Well... I'm also doing a GABA/L-Arginine/L-Ornithine stack. About 3 grams of each... lil' less on the ornithine. It's only my second night and holy crap am I having an allergy to something. My palms are red and itch like hell. =( I'll try this again tomorrow and hopefully it's a one time thing. I've had this happen in the past although the direct cause was unknown, but it never came back. I think that maybe it just my body getting pissed off at having a new found amount of these amino acids. If it continues I'll stop I'll them for a day then experiment over the next few days and see which one might be the problem. If it's not the combo if it causing the problem. Or maybe just the stuffed shells and red sauce I had for dinner. ;)

Otherwise I'd say I do tend to sleep better with the GABA before bed time. So far for any other benefits it's far to early to tell..
 
Try it with Kava instead of St. Johns. Kava is thought to grow more gaba receptors. 5-HTP works on another neurotransmitter so it wouldnt matter.

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I am a bit paranoid on KAVA. I heard it can mess with your liver, so I avoid it like SARS. Did you hear any of this overly potent KAVA products doing this? growing more receptors is good?

I thought that the ST John's works more like a tricylic anti-depressent than a true SSRI. I assume eventually the Seratonion reuptake will stop and the 5-htp will overflow it.
 
Just avoid it and do it the natural way like I do. Why would you need enhancers to get a bigger penis fast while there's always the natural way? I bet a natural upgraded penis is much stronger then one pumped up with the aid of GABA.
I'm sure it's the same with muscles; natural training and anabolics.
The anabolics user gains muscle mass more quickly then the natural bodybuilder, but is alot weaker in strength in comparison with the natural bodybuilder. Believe me, I've fought a dude who used anabolics and he was like "huge".
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12435490&dopt=Abstract

Chronic nicotine and smoking exposure decreases GABA(B1) receptor expression in the rat hippocampus.

Li SP, Park MS, Bahk JY, Kim MO.

Division of Life Science and Applied Life Science, College of Natural Sciences, Gyeongsang National University, Gazwa-dong 900, Chinju, Gyeongnam, South Korea.

Nicotine and smoking have long been proved to play an important role in cognition and memory in the hippocampus. This effect is closely related to the gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA)ergic system. Previous research has focused on functional and pharmacological aspects of nicotine's modulation activity. In this study, the effects of nicotine and different doses of smoking on GABA(B1) expression in the rat hippocampus have been examined using in situ hybridization and RNase protection assay. GABA(B1) receptor mRNAs were intensely expressed in the CA1, CA2, CA3, and dentate gyrus areas of the hippocampus. Nicotine and smoking doses dependently decreased GABA(B1) receptor expression in the hippocampus. These results revealed new aspects of nicotine's modulation on GABA(beer) receptor, and on learning and memory. Copyright 2002 Elsevier Science Ireland Ltd.

PMID: 12435490 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


What does this mean in the layman's terms?




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So it dulls the potential potency of the gaba getting sucked up?Bottom line it is a bad thing? If so, how do you counter it? You know make it right?
 
I just started taking this at 3 mg a day yesturday, I'd already been taking NO2 for a few weeks, which contains L arganine and L Orniphine, which ogether also boost HGH.

I'm hoping the HGH increase can help me lose some weight, put on some muscle and help me recover quicker and better on pe.
 
i have been using 3 grams of gaba stacked with 5-htp before bed time for the past week, having an amazing nights sleep, due to the extra hgh. hgh and good sleep will have a positive effect of pe and will definitly spped up gains...
 
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