I saw that stillwantmore used his original Bib starter with no Gel and the new BETA has no gel, just a cavity for the penis. Thus wrapping is very critical. I think that you can use the Beta okay. GS[/QUOTE]

Thanks, GS. I have found the wrapping to be the most critical part of my hanging experience. It took me a while to become proficient. That was very frustraing at first, but it also caused me to become more thoughtful about what I'm doing, and to become more aware of what my penis is "telling" me. I think that is the most critical part of any Penis Enlargement endeavor-learning to listen to your body.
 
Wow, BIB is selling the best version of his hanger for $25 less than the original "Starter"?
 
The gel padding is quite expensive. He isn't going to charge for the engineering investment, where I think a lot of guys would...
 
stillwantmore2 said:
Wow, BIB is selling the best version of his hanger for $25 less than the original "Starter"?

I'm really liking my "padded" starter, but will probably get the new hardcore when I get the money together. In the meantime- for those of you who HAVE the hardcore- why do you like it? What are the problems I should look out for when I get mine? I don't want to make the same mistakes others have made, I'd rather make ORIGINAL mistakes!;)

I'm sure, like with the padded model, that wrapping is critical. I've gotten the hang of it with my current hanger-are there differences with the new model?
 
Wannabe...I don't know if the Beta is that much better than your starter. Stillwantmore took the padding out of his starter and really liked it. I had a regular and this BETA starter is much better. I can get back farther on the shaft and pull the innner penis better. Also, if I am forward on the shaft, behind the glans I don't have to tighten down so much. BUT, and all hangers know this, the wrapping the most critical. GS
 
ok bib when will it be on line. and can i buy one today. i live down the road from you in paradise. just asking. thanks;)
 
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