Any black guys who hate the big dick sterotype much as me?

REDZULU2003;342912 said:

I see that exactly and have mentioned it further back on them having larger flaccid because it would need to give off the heat in the warm climate, BUT does that mean that most men in colder climates have smaller flaccids? you would think so wouldnt you? I mean you mention the Eskimo's but what about Russia, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Northern Canada, Alaska etc etc surely the males in the far northern parts and I'm not just talking about eskimo-type people but the folk that come from them regions, born natives, would have smaller dicks? yet from looking at past members on here from Scandanavia they have a good size to start with in that cold climate.

The theory seems sound to me, blacker penis being slightly larger flaccid than the others because of the climate but why not all the other nations right in the very north of the world? maybe more to do migration 1000's of years previous and they are not the original peoples of the northern lands.

It makes allot of sense with the flaccid size and the enviroment but erect size is usually the same across the board with all races with a slight small change perhaps favouring the blacks but imo its hardly anything, this size difference seems to be in FLACCID SIZE and like Opa said its probbaly more to do with how the black race's body evolved in the hot enviroment but something else I think is also playing a role here ... something deeper ... in the genes!

Once we find out the reasons for the SIZE that they have, we can understand it more and educate others and put this whole topic to bed once and for all ... thats speaking for the entire human race.

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hehe have you ever been to Sweden? lawl I think you are misstaking the Scandinavian countries a bit. Sure they may be cold, on the winter,... but not every day on the year. xD
Similar weather as UK, germany or whatever most of the time, except we got some more snow on the winter. =)

But yeh..about the flaccid I actually think it is like that..and the erect stage..Im still unsure, but I go for the theory some. I hope it'll be proven one day :/

This has been a very good thread in my opinion, with some very interesting theories. I don't have any good theories on why blacks or islanders would be well endowed, but here are some thoughts. I've competed against Samoans/Islanders more than half of my life, and I've always thought they are the best strength athletes on the planet, while blacks are the best speed athletes. The best bench press advice I ever got was from a Tongan, and my first roommate in college was a 6-5 375 lb Samoan. I've also never heard any Islanders talk about their endowment either, until reading about this post. In my opinion, it would make sense for them to have larger than average penis' since their lineage is a larger than average people. I've seen Samoan women with bigger hands than me, and I've got heavy hands. I don't go around looking about other dudes' junk, but I still think that overall, black guys have the biggest unit's. The 3 biggest penis' I've ever seen in person have been black men. I mentioned my one friend in another post that's 10 1/2" X huge. There are two guys at my gym (one of whom is a somewhat famous actor) that have got to be 7 1'/2"-8 " flaccid. I do suspect that non actor guy is doing some form of Penis Enlargement, as he's in the shower way too long and always walking seems to paying a lot of attention to his penis. If their genitalia were long and thin, I could say to myself "Ah ha! I've got them beat in girth though!". But unfortunately, they even beat my better than most girth. Oh well. At least I can outlift them!

Nice stuff Zartan and if you can please do post in the health section your wisdom from the gym as we could do with it around here and that advice the Tongan gave you on bench pressing. Cheers

Girth Hammer;342738 said:

RED i see your point but the size of your member is genetics so size is the way it is regardless of where your from. We have to remember are penis is a organ you can not pass down a big or small organ size. BUT different races have slightly different bone structure so that might play a small role in it. Here are the 2 real reasons are members are there size the suspensory ligament that keeps your penis attached to the pubic bone and the erectile tissue of the penis that fills with blood.

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what evidence do you have that you can not pass down organ size? you state it as if it were incontrovertible fact!!!!


i'd say organ sizes are passed down. organs are at proteins, fats etc, the structure of which is determined by your dna. i'd be VERY SURPRISED if organ size was not passed down in fact.


this is not to say if your dad has a big wang then you automatically have a big wang. the same way if your dad is tall, you are not automatically tall.
however if your dad has a big wang and your mum's dad had a big wang, i'd say the chances are you have a big wang.


in answer to your other point, blacks have more fast muscle twitches - yes i am sure this is true. my point is - it is not racist to point out genetic differences between races - as long as there is some EVIDENCE for it. i'd say there is some evidence for the stereotype of big black wangs.


ps : final point. there is some evidence of a correlation between height and penis size. how many asian and white basketball players do you know?

zartan;342923 said:

This has been a very good thread in my opinion, with some very interesting theories. I don't have any good theories on why blacks or islanders would be well endowed, but here are some thoughts. I've competed against Samoans/Islanders more than half of my life, and I've always thought they are the best strength athletes on the planet, while blacks are the best speed athletes. The best bench press advice I ever got was from a Tongan, and my first roommate in college was a 6-5 375 lb Samoan. I've also never heard any Islanders talk about their endowment either, until reading about this post. In my opinion, it would make sense for them to have larger than average penis' since their lineage is a larger than average people. I've seen Samoan women with bigger hands than me, and I've got heavy hands. I don't go around looking about other dudes' junk, but I still think that overall, black guys have the biggest unit's. The 3 biggest penis' I've ever seen in person have been black men. I mentioned my one friend in another post that's 10 1/2" X huge. There are two guys at my gym (one of whom is a somewhat famous actor) that have got to be 7 1'/2"-8 " flaccid. I do suspect that non actor guy is doing some form of Penis Enlargement, as he's in the shower way too long and always walking seems to paying a lot of attention to his penis. If their genitalia were long and thin, I could say to myself "Ah ha! I've got them beat in girth though!". But unfortunately, they even beat my better than most girth. Oh well. At least I can outlift them!

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it was a very good thread until it was moved. now it will get 1/100 of the readership and die a slow painful death as it has been MOVED out of the main forum.

Reborn;342975 said:

it was a very good thread until it was moved. now it will get 1/100 of the readership and die a slow painful death as it has been MOVED out of the main forum.

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Indeed. I love MOS (there, I said it) but I think it has too many subforums.

Why was it moved from the main forum? Would you guys want me to move it back?

Not steppin' on anyone's toes here but if it makes for a better read for MORE people then i'll move it to the main forum.

Peace

Mike

P.s. I believe this black size thing to be in fact a myth, i have MANY black friends, both male and female, they ALL say this myth to be damaging to say the least.

Most if not all black dudes i have talked to about this stuff, as well as females telling me about their experiences, have in fact told me that this black is bigger is just plain old hype.

Not true and very troubling to them,they are as average or as big as any other man can be. No bigger, no smaller, just plain old average. The girls do seem to expect a snake of a penis whenever they share their beds with a black male, as they tell me. When it is NOT A SNAKE then they just feel let down and fooled by the dude.

Many of them only wished it was true but sadly...it is not.

In fact, i get questioned about my size a lot by them in these conversations and i had to show some pics to them to back my claims up. The result of the viewing?? They all say it is HUGE and that makes me really happy but i don't share the opinion...i want even more, i will stop short of ridiculous size whih in my mind is about 9. Almost there haha.

Peace

Mike

Its going back into deep thoughts section nextweek as its not a subject on penis enlargement as the main forum is reserved for that purpose and I understand that it will get more life in that section but we have loads of threads here that deserve life and they all cant be put into the main room and hence why we have sub-forums, to maintain order and keep the place organised it is essential.

Thanks

Maybe people should just read the subforums more often

Just click new posts and anything new will be shown. Also I would like to point out members to use the adding to members reputations and voteing for a thread. Lots of good stuff in this thread, so I have started adding to members rep already and voted on it.

REDZULU2003;343019 said:

Just click new posts and anything new will be shown. Also I would like to point out members to use the adding to members reputations and voteing for a thread. Lots of good stuff in this thread, so I have started adding to members rep already and voted on it.

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i think its more common for black women to have 44D (maybe this is just the website i frequent )

When threads get moved or merged they don't always seem to be followable by their forum page links. I love this forum, and think that it is hands down the most helpful, insightful, useful natural Penis Enlargement resource on the 'net today hands down, but the forum could use some consolidating. This forum has way too many sub-forums and moved posts that die. I've been on messageboards with literally 10 times the number of posts that this one has that have far less sub-forums to water down the main discussion when compared to this one. Sorry to complain, and please believe me when I say that I just want this place to keep getting better and better.

Reborn;342799 said:

what evidence do you have that it's definitely untrue? i don't think its racist to say in general black guys are better sprinters or tend to be slightly more thickset or that e.g. black women tend to have bigger asses ()

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"Racist" is usually defined as the belief in the superiority of one race over another- in this case it's about Black men having "big dicks".

The fact that I've counseled many Black men because of this very issue tells me that there are quite a few of them that don't fit this mold- enough out of a % of my clients to be statistically significant.

Reborn;342799 said:

i've seen the averages and they're slightly bigger for africans vs. whites which in turn bigger than asians. anecdotally, my experience from e.g. gym is a significant minority of africans are well hung, sure they are some huge whites and asians but not as common as africans imho.

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I'm sure that there are all kinds of variations, but I believe that stereotypes, the media and �naked people movies� have created this into a harmful standard for Black men. I've seen studies claiming that Black men have a slightly larger length measurement on average [and some that have shown otherwise], and if true, it doesn't mean all or even most Black men possess a "big dick". A very slight statistical difference does not a myth make.

As to your personal experiences, have you considered that many average or less-than-average endowed Black men would be hesitant at voluntarily being nude in a shower setting precisely because of this widespread myth? The same could be said of any voluntary studies. This would skew true averages. A more appropriate assessment would be made in comparing different races of men in situations in which they didn't have any consent at being viewed (i.e. the military or prison). Trying this might get you in trouble though

Reborn;342799 said:

so i would say the evidence is slightly in my favour.
certainly i wouldn't use the word 'myth' as it implies you have scientifically and definitively ruled out any difference between races.

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Evidence for what exactly? I'm not contending that Black men aren't slightly statistically larger- that's not what's being debated here.

A myth by definition (in this case) is: A popular belief or story that has become associated with a person, institution, or occurrence, especially one considered to illustrate a cultural ideal. A myth can exist totally independent from any facts, and this particular one certainly fits the bill.

TinyWeeWee;342844 said:

Clients? You guys do private consulting on penis enlargement? What sort of prices do you charge and what does it entail?

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Please check out my signature for details.

Reborn;342974 said:

what evidence do you have that you can not pass down organ size? you state it as if it were incontrovertible fact!!!!


i'd say organ sizes are passed down. organs are at proteins, fats etc, the structure of which is determined by your dna. i'd be VERY SURPRISED if organ size was not passed down in fact.


this is not to say if your dad has a big wang then you automatically have a big wang. the same way if your dad is tall, you are not automatically tall.
however if your dad has a big wang and your mum's dad had a big wang, i'd say the chances are you have a big wang.


in answer to your other point, blacks have more fast muscle twitches - yes i am sure this is true. my point is - it is not racist to point out genetic differences between races - as long as there is some EVIDENCE for it. i'd say there is some evidence for the stereotype of big black wangs.


ps : final point. there is some evidence of a correlation between height and penis size. how many asian and white basketball players do you know?

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Natural penis size potential is to some degree genetic- it's determined by the "Hox" genes. These genes are responsible for limb development, although that doesn't mean that someone with long arms and legs is going to have a long penis.

The greatest degree of genetic diversity is found in Africans*, which range in height from the very short Pygmies to the very tall Masai.

*Categorization of humans in biomedical research: genes, race and disease

Slapping this bitch

all good points from big al. i'd challenge the racism definition slightly - as in my opinion : its the UNPROVEN or assumption of "superiority of one race over another". however its not racist to generally state black guys are generally genetically superior at sprinting or black women tend to be have big butts its not racist to say black people can handle the sun better than whites.

ie its not racist to point out differences in races - if in fact the differences have actually been shown to be true. there are some genetic differences between races which make one race on average slightly superior. it would be nice to think we're all equal but the evidence such that it is does not support this.

it may be harmful to black guys that don't fit into this stereotype, however just because its harmful does not mean the stereotype does not have some truth. i'm sure some black women feel bad they don't have a big butt but i don't hear many black women denying the stereotype.

i take your point on the negative selection issue (small guys less likely to shower etc) but this would apply to all races i think. you can find faults with all the statistical evidence - i agree it would be better if we were all exactly equal - but the evidence is the best we have - which is - tentatively - blacks tend to be on average slightly bigger - and are much more likely to have the truly big ones.


finally you accept the studies show that blacks are " slightly statistically larger" but you say that is not "the point". eh? the thread is that black dicks are bigger is just a stereotype. i'm saying there is some validity to the stereotype. i'd say it is the point ? sorry maybe i misunderstood.

I have a question. Would it make you black guys on here or mixed race whatever politically correct word they now use happy and proud of yourselves like you had the upperhand or one over on other races, if it was the case that black mens dicks were bigger on average than the other races or would you not really give a shit? I think many of you would give a shit and this stuff matters to you deeply being a black man, like its some power perhaps. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

Also From all my observations black men are bigger slightly in FLACCID length than other races but when it comes to erect length it all changes and anything goes.

With �naked people movies� and all the blacks around well its biased prejudicial bullshit because I can link you several HUGE white guys who put most black mens dicks to shame in length and girth but yet they dont get slapped about all across the web like a black.

I've seen an equal amount of other races than black with the same sizes as them and even much larger. The Shanes, mandingos, lexingtons, shorty macs, ramones et el are all freak sizes no matter what race they may be and not the average black man at all from what I've seen in �naked people movies� and from seeing another man erect next to me and would it be fair to say that Shane and Ramone for sure have some white blood in them down the line? This could be another question for another day perhaps on this blacks could be bigger debate because if you look around this world today and all the mixing of blood between races and nations such as a white country and a black one, could it than be that the mixtures have also provided good genes for certain individuals to have a large penis which wouldnt normally occur in the single race such as black or white? food for thought.

If the wind changed and rumours went about that men from Latvia for example, had huge monster fucking dicks than Latvian men or men from around that region would appear on the net with huge cocks ... men in that area with huge cocks, but it would make it look like the whole tribe was hung like a crane and a new debate arrises ... are the Latvian men the biggest of all! we on the same wavelength here?

it wouldn't make me one bit of a damn difference if my race was on average bigger than any other race...just like right now it's good to know that i am above average and probably bigger than most guys but it doesn't make me feel superior..when african americans start making more money on average than our white counterpart..then that might be something to be proud of

Hey guys. Lets all calm down with this stuff. I'm black and my pre Penis Enlargement size was 8 inches but who cares. I bet you guys a million dollars that on this planet we call Earth there is an ASIAN GUY SOME WHERE WITH A HUGE 8-9 INCH DICK. We are all here for one goal and that goal is to increase our dick size for our own individual reasons. We are all a brotherhood of men that should be helping each other, no matter what race. I am declaring a new race. THE Penis Enlargement RACE. LOL