I think right after girth work, length session should not be attempted. Now a days, I am using the bm as a tool to achieve the "magic jelly state". After a bm session, I use cockring for 6+ hours but I use it not too light and NOT too tight)and then, when I remove it, I find my dick is in the "magic jelly state" and
I do the llength session)
 
DreamDick;668601 said:
For me that "magic jelly state" is the key to effectively break down the tunica

You may be right. We need some other people's thoughts including DLD's
 
DreamDick;668601 said:
For me that "magic jelly state" is the key to effectively break down the tunica

Indeed and that jelly state is easy to get to, just have an orgasm and you are there! In this state, doing Bundles? Big time Tunica stretching!
 
kyomoto;668611 said:
You may be right. We need some other people's thoughts including DLD's

I usually go jelly after my pre-fatigue which is jelqing, and bundles. Sometimes after the entire session ill be gel, but usually I just have a heavy, fat flaccid with a little gel, and a little firmness *aldente*
 
templnite;669103 said:
I usually go jelly after my pre-fatigue which is jelqing, and bundles. Sometimes after the entire session ill be gel, but usually I just have a heavy, fat flaccid with a little gel, and a little firmness *aldente*

What is that jelly state? Like a lot of blood in the penis while flaccid? Cause I don't know if I ever had it.
 
GhostRider;669120 said:
What is that jelly state? Like a lot of blood in the penis while flaccid? Cause I don't know if I ever had it.

Just where there's zero stiffness at all. Like after an orgasm and you get super floppy.
 
Longth;669129 said:
Just where there's zero stiffness at all. Like after an orgasm and you get super floppy.

Thanks. So I thinks thats what I get after bundled stretches, before my routine.
 
GhostRider;669146 said:
Thanks. So I thinks thats what I get after bundled stretches, before my routine.

If you do that before your routine you'll have a better time stretching since you're practically replicating the jelly state without masturbation or sex.
 
GhostRider;669120 said:
What is that jelly state? Like a lot of blood in the penis while flaccid? Cause I don't know if I ever had it.

A malleable, stretchable state where there is no resistance from Pelvic Floor Muscles.
 
doublelongdaddy;669195 said:
A malleable, stretchable state where there is no resistance from Pelvic Floor Muscles.

Basically when you cum :)
 
templnite;669281 said:
Yes bundles get you gel in no time :blush:!

Yes sir! Awsome to get in before stretching session. Change the way it feels big time.
 
Due to physical limitations, I was only able to practice pumping for most of this year.

I concentrated on increasing my mid to upper girth successfully gaining 0.25".

I utilized a 2.25 diam vs my normal 2.50 diam tube, which helped restrain my base girth and keep it at 8.5".

The primary thing that I have noticed is that I can at best get to 8.75" in length in the tube.

Previously I was getting to 9.25" length in the tube.

I find that with my increased girth stretching takes much more of a physical effort.

I guess my length gains were not cemented in.

Now that my physical health has improved, I need to put the tubes away and get back to stretching.

Pumping is too addictive to ignore.
 
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BaddJack;669410 said:
Due to physical limitations, I was only able to practice pumping for most of this year.

I concentrated on increasing my mid to upper girth successfully gaining 0.25".

I utilized a 2.25 diam vs my normal 2.50 diam tube, which helped restrain my base girth and keep it at 8.5".

The primary thing that I have noticed is that I can at best get to 8.75" in length in the tube.

Previously I was getting to 9.25" length in the tube.

I find that with my increased girth stretching takes much more of a physical effort.

I guess my length gains were not cemented in.

Now that my physical health has improved, I need to put the tubes away and get back to stretching.

Pumping is too addictive to ignore.

Hmm I knew girth had something to do with how much stretching you can do. Do you do stretching before you pump?
 
DLD, did you always train both length and girth evenly throughout your entire PE career? Or did you have times where you would focus only on one thing? And how were the gains like in the different phases?
 
MoS-Newbie;669658 said:
DLD, did you always train both length and girth evenly throughout your entire PE career? Or did you have times where you would focus only on one thing? And how were the gains like in the different phases?

I think he trained length first. Could be wrong. Lets wait for the master himself.
 
MoS-Newbie;669658 said:
DLD, did you always train both length and girth evenly throughout your entire PE career? Or did you have times where you would focus only on one thing? And how were the gains like in the different phases?

I always train both in two session, length and girth separate. Routine I use, SRT.
 
doublelongdaddy;669734 said:
I always train both in two session, length and girth separate. Routine I use, SRT.

How did you not let girth interfere with your length gains?
 
kyomoto;669787 said:
How did you not let girth interfere with your length gains?

They're just not mutually exclusive. Routines like that are about bigger, rather than thicker or longer, so there's a synergy between the two where each helps the other. For the majority, it's more appropriate to go for a flat out volume routine. The only exceptions being those extraordinarily thick or long already.

I honestly think volume building routines are the best bet to make the largest gains in overall size most efficiently. But that's one of the oldest debates in pe. So we have some doing SRT for length or girth specifically. Really though, as long as the thing gets bigger the opinion is right enough right?
 
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