@anth1225 - My man, eventhough you are definetly entitled to your own opinion - I fear you fell in love, with the first obvious critism that came to your mind , too quickly. Dig deeper into what was said:
2. T bird got hurt jelqing. Are you serious? Jelqing? Don't we think that would be a freak accident not at all normative? I would and do. Like I said I'm sorry he got hurt but with all the advanced exercises going on Jelqing is less stressful than masturbation.
Why try and scare people with that?
He got hurt and therefore everyone else will too. This isn't about whether if people ever got hurt doing Penis Enlargement, people have and it's unfortunate, but that is not the assertion or implication being made by him, sorry.
This whole Post/thread/scenario Is NOT about Tbirdy complaining about his Jelq accident. I even states in several posts it could have very well been a mild case of Peyronies. This whole thing is about Tbirdy, knowing about the potentual risks and witnessing them in the booboos section , trying to warn and educate the veterans and especially the newbies, about possible future consequences of Penis Enlargement. There are no long term studys. Everything is short term and "while in routine". To prove me wrong, you would need 1000 men from here stopping Penis Enlargement completely and then report back after several years on their erection strength. My "freak accident" as you call it was repeated many times now, as you can read in the injury section by several guys. (Definetly without peyronies as a possible reason like in my case!)
To say Jelquing is less stressfull than masturbation is " completely wrong" in my opinion: Why? Let me explain.
The technique is grab with OK sign at the base being semi-erect and push the blood up to the head, using sensible grip strength and repeating many times over, pre-warm up and post-warm down/cool down included.
This motion is completely unnatural. Its directly the opposite of natural. Most natural stress/motion for the Penis is sex. The Penis enters the vagina and is being jelqued from top to bottom ! NEVER from bottom to top. The pussy even squeezes the dick upon a thrust in movement, thus jelquing it from top to bottom and relaxes upon the thrust out movement.
The pressure applied differs greatly, too.
Most important: By jelquing you force the blood not only through the arteries - wich is good in itself , but also through the VEINS (they are needed for outflow) and again exactly against "the stream" , against the vein-valves and against the flow.
This is impossible to simulate in sex - where when being completely erect the veins are shut of and very reduced in size.
All of these facts make even one single jelq stroke a completely unique , unnatural stress that you perform on your healthy penis.
On :
He got hurt and therefore everyone else will too. This isn't about whether if people ever got hurt doing Penis Enlargement, people have and it's unfortunate, but that is not the assertion or implication being made by him, sorry.
UHydromax. Yes it is ! It not about I got hurt everyone else will. Its about I know what CAN get you hurt AND WHY and I don't want everyone else to take unnessary risk.
The "intense Penis Enlargement followers" group have theory and practical evidence (as in well I'm doing Penis Enlargement and its still working good) as proof for their rightousness.
What they DON'T have is : Well I'm doing Penis Enlargement, its working good AND IT WILL WORK GOOD 10 years from now AND it will work good when I stop Penis Enlargement completely.
What I have is theory and advise on how to put you on the safe side, and practical evidence from my own experience and evidence from the injury section and world wide scientific research - because as one wise member already noticed : We all guinnepigs ! You can't argue against me on this one because , its theory against theory with NO proof that you will keep your gains and your health on one side but alot of evidence THAT YOU CAN LOOSE alot on the other side.
@Why try and scare people with that? = This is why I try and WARN people about Is there really a need to take such a risk ?
@He comes off as trying to sound reasonable but when objectors, object he becomes argumentative and plays the victim.
--------------> Where, when and who ? You can play secretary I'm the boss 2night ! I say :-D
@where he says to all of his doubters that we all will be experiencing ED in a few years, just we wait.
-----------> Are you saying We all WILL NOT HAVE ? Please back that up by anything senseful. Oh wait - You can't, there are NO LONG TERM OBSERVATIONS worth shit !
@The term "buyer beware" was common when I was growing up and it simply means that as a purchaser you've got to protect yourself and use your head.
-----> Good for you , that you grew up like that and became so smart. Do you expect everyone to be the same ? Oh , and if not - don't the people DESERVE to be warned and educated ? Or do you say, if you didn't watch out and were to dumb - it was YOU FAULT so enjoy your ED - you deserve it ?
What if (theoratically) your brother, who happens to be a singer, an artist , a scientist, a sportsman AND an insecureman who is trying to increase his penis for his wife - no matter what , will fall prey to this ? Still OK with you - as in he was to dumb ? How he was to dumb if he is good in other areas but NOT in the art of Penis Enlargement and the knowledge and risks behind it ?
What about young guys , who can't wait who are out for a quick fix ? They deserve ED being 19 ???
Or rather lots of sex and happiness and a cool mindset to enjoy the beauty of life ?