A Well Presented Argument from All who were involved

Tbirdy,

Like others have said I'm sorry you injuried yourself bad enough to get ED. But don't smash DLD and his thought on Penis Enlargement for your problems or anyone elses. Pe might not have even caused your leak, maybe it was genetics.

I myself was a big believer in intensity at one time, the harder the better, that is what I thought at one time. However I no longer practice this. I take Penis Enlargement with the less is more mind set.

I have pumped at over 20hg, for months on end, with long durations in the pump. I've squezzed my dick so hard I had veins pop on me. I've clamped so hard that I had a black circle around my dick where the clamp was, this black circle lasted at least a week or more. But I have never had a problem getting an erection, maybe after a hardcore session, but never the next day. Even with my dick bruised and all. So everybody is different, I am not the rule, and you are not the rule. We just have had different long term experiences with Penis Enlargement.

I like that you preach safety, which I do myself, it is the most important part of any activity, that could cause damage, if its playing ball, Penis Enlargementing, drinking, cutting baseboards for you house, driving a car, whatever, safety is number 1.

From everything I've done to my dick in the past 5 years, I cannot see how Penis Enlargement alone, can fuck up your dick for life? Again I am speaking from my experience, and this is what I know.

Very True CrazyEd

Injuries are a potential in anything we do. If you dont want to risk them dont mess with Penis Enlargement. Fair enough. If you do get hurt just admit it was because you were not listening to the vets (or your body) and eventually something had to give.

Penis Enlargement has given so many people so much, and DLD and many others are a part of this.

this thread exhausted me, i'm going to just sa a couple of things. one, i don't get why people get injured and then blame the site and DLD. it is outlined in the routines and emphasized over and over again on this forum to warm up and down before and after every pe session. people have admitted that they don't warm up and then suddenly their pissing blood or they can't get up all the way because the tissue is ripped. i have been doin this since i was 17 and i ALWAYS warm up and down before every Penis Enlargement session and i never had those issues, as well as most of the big gainers here on this forum and many others. including DLD.
and yes, ED is also cause by psychological issues, i have had problems with it both mentally and physically. i find that Penis Enlargement helps out with that and therapy doesn't hurt. why not double up and get rid of the problem right? so i agree with people on that one.

as for DLD's intentions? i have a feeling that this guy is genuine. i have been in another site before and THAT guy i think...though he was sharing knowledge he wasn't as open as to say how he gained and kept everything secret. i noticed that all the innovations and methods are posted HERE on the FREE forum, and then later you pay for the routine that might be most affective for you. but there is nothing stopping someone from coming onto this site and getting ideas about what to do and making their own routine. people CHOOSE on their own free will to go and pay for those routines to give them a possible edge. it's true that DLD would say "go and sign up for membership", who would blame him? the guy did a lot of research and why shouldn't he benifit from it if a grown man opts for buying the routines. DLD also has his screen name up there so you can reach him, just to shoot the shit and or ask him for Penis Enlargement advice. i personally have him on my buddy list and i have talked with him in the past and shit, might talk with him again soon. the guy makes himself readily available.

and we all know about what happened with him and jen, and that right there is a sacrifice that i don't think most men would make, it takes a lot of courage to go ahead and continue in what you believe in at any cost. my father told me "stick with your path zack, those who are meant to be in your life with stick by you and walk that path with you." DLD stuck to his path, and continues doing so.

we are all men, and we are far from...FAR FROM fools. it was said that the paying members were scammed, i don't think i was scammed. i made an investment, and i don't regret it, and i'd fucking do it again too. if you don't believe in DLD then back off and or go find another site. or just stick to the free forums and find your own routine, do whatever it takes, but don't put the blame on other people or another source for your own problems. you think his intentions are unpure? then say to hell with DLD and move on.

all i know is that i'm glad i joined this forum when it was one unit and was about helping guys out. before it seemed to become a drama filled forum with guys going nuts and bitching and moaning. if i were a newbie or a long time watcher of the site, i would be very afraid to join the forum, and or the site.

Listen to your body, guys--and there is much less chance of hurting yourself. For me it was the fowfers--lazy ass stretches. I was trying to pull my dick up my backbone--visions of grandeur--and I hurt myself--sooooo, I'm real careful with that stretch. In fact, I rarely try it anymore. It just ain't worth it. Always err on the side of caution, I say.

Wow, I'm really surprised that all of the responses to T-birdy have been "don't blame anyone else, blame yourself". I've read his posts 2-3 times through, and I've read some of his other posts in the injury section and the guy is just attempting to make a point. It'd be different if the guy hurt himself after a 2-3 hour clamp session, but he did it jelqing. That's the easiest thing in Penis Enlargement to learn, and maybe he was doing it wrong and maybe he did everything correctly. There's no blaming going on, it seems to me that he wants DLD to acknowledge that Penis Enlargement is dangerous and can cause such a HUGE problem and so far DLD has balked at his claims and has responded back with "it's all mental" and now he's gone as far as to try to publicly embarrass and belittle a long standing member.

Penis Enlargement is dangerous, and that's why it's said that you need to warm up and know your body limits. i think dld as well as other members say that all the time, i know i preach it to whoever comes to me for help. other members do the same. i think dld tells people to warm up and warm down and does say it's dangerous if you don't know how much your dick can handle. that's why i say that he shouldn't blame everyone else and only himself, and why everyone else is saying it too

SAMZ, You're missing the bigger problem. DLD took a private matter and has made it a public issue. That's the problem that I have with this WHOLE thread. There was no open forum attack on DLD, but there has been an open forum attack on T-birdy instigated by DLD.

there are tons of attacks on DLD, i figure a man can only take so much. but i'm not lookin to beef with you or anyone.

also didn't he say that he made the same post or somethin on a public thread? i may be wrong

samzman;292179 said:

there are tons of attacks on DLD, i figure a man can only take so much. but i'm not lookin to beef with you or anyone.

also didn't he say that he made the same post or somethin on a public thread? i may be wrong

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ya he did post it publically tbirdy even admitted it.

Why did I ever waste so much time, money and effort towards something that's will leave me limp for life... P.E. is too risky for my own health and I retire

millionman;292154 said:

Wow, I'm really surprised that all of the responses to T-birdy have been "don't blame anyone else, blame yourself". I've read his posts 2-3 times through, and I've read some of his other posts in the injury section and the guy is just attempting to make a point. It'd be different if the guy hurt himself after a 2-3 hour clamp session, but he did it jelqing. That's the easiest thing in Penis Enlargement to learn, and maybe he was doing it wrong and maybe he did everything correctly. There's no blaming going on, it seems to me that he wants DLD to acknowledge that Penis Enlargement is dangerous and can cause such a HUGE problem and so far DLD has balked at his claims and has responded back with "it's all mental" and now he's gone as far as to try to publicly embarrass and belittle a long standing member.

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i know this thread is gonna probably go on for a while...and i read it earlier and already 20 more people chimed in...i just wanted to say that i agree with millionman...tbirdy didn't say noone should do pe...he didn't blame anybody...i believe he just want the equal amount of attention to be spent on the risk as it is on the benefits...he has been doing pe for a while...and noone can say he did anything wrong or he just overdid it...people need to wake up and realize this has a danger like anything else in life....someone taking a certain drug for the first time can kill them while the next man gets high as hell....someone can take a hit in football and break his neck and the next man take the same exact hit...and jumps right back up...all tbirdy was saying is he want it to be known how dangerous this could be...even for the vets....he has the right to speak his mind and he didn't sound preachy to me at all...and as for making it a public issue...well we see what that cause....dld and tbirdy are two mature adults and i'm sure they can resolve an issue they may have...i just thank dld...for the knowledge that he has provided and if i happen to do something to my body while using that knowledge..the only person to be blamed will be me...but i don't think a lot of new guys understand the risk...we just tell them be careful...don't over do it..go easy at first...but in reality it can be just as dangerous in any phase...i hope everyone hear practice healthy pe...and hope no serious injury occurs to anyone..respect

twins172_up--Cigarette smoking is dangerous to your health and they give a warning on every package sold. The warning is general without giving you every single detail of the dangers. Driving a car is dangerous and when you purchase a vehicle from a Car dealer the sales person don't give you every detail of the dangers of operating a vehicle before driving off of their car lot. Walking the streets in any part of the world is dangerous and the City Council don't give you all the details of the dangers when you purchase or rent housing in their area. That's why there is insurance in place to cover the dangers of these things when it goes wrong... in case shit happens!!!

You guys are really taking this way too personal. DLD simply exposed tbirdy for acting like a reformed smoker and wanting everyone to quit and not let the tobacco companies profit from it anymore.

Use your own judgement and let your feet do the talking for you.

this much is true in all cases Threak...i just don't want anyone jumping all over another member because they had choice words with dld...i've been here for a long time...and it get real old everyone coming out the wood work to gang up on one person because they feel like they have to come to dld rescue...dld is a big boy and can handle themselves....you are also right Threak...we take a risk by just walking out our door in the morning...but i feel if people were more informed on the risks..we wouldn't have countless threads after someone injure themselves complaining about it...but then again i can be wrong...anyway..i hope everyone stays healthy

twins172_up;292200 said:

this much is true in all cases Threak...i just don't want anyone jumping all over another member because they had choice words with dld...i've been here for a long time...and it get real old everyone coming out the wood work to gang up on one person because they feel like they have to come to dld rescue...dld is a big boy and can handle themselves....you are also right Threak...we take a risk by just walking out our door in the morning...but i feel if people were more informed on the risks..we wouldn't have countless threads after someone injure themselves complaining about it...but then again i can be wrong...anyway..i hope everyone stays healthy

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you saying basically as much as we promote benifits of pe same energy in warning about the negatives and risks?

there should be a list of things to do posted up for EASY access, because it's out there, in every gainers routine there is warm up and warm down. so lets just post up a post right at the top of the Penis Enlargement thing saying
"EXTREMELY IMPORTANT RULES" or some shit, idk..that way this argument is moot.

twins172_up;292200 said:

this much is true in all cases Threak...i just don't want anyone jumping all over another member because they had choice words with dld...i've been here for a long time...and it get real old everyone coming out the wood work to gang up on one person because they feel like they have to come to dld rescue...dld is a big boy and can handle themselves....you are also right Threak...we take a risk by just walking out our door in the morning...but i feel if people were more informed on the risks..we wouldn't have countless threads after someone injure themselves complaining about it...but then again i can be wrong...anyway..i hope everyone stays healthy

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tbirdy attacked dld and i am defending pe in general as it is basically do at your own risk. he blamed dld and in reality is his own fault, not dld just because this is his site. tbirdy didnt perform the exercises properly and therefore hurt himself. i feel bad for himself but hes to blame. he said pe doesnt cure ed when in actuallity it does. it has for me, and i haven't donated or bought a single thing from this site. tbirdy claimed money was dlds motivation to let people get hurt and make $$$ of them. its simply not true. tbirdy either did advanced routines to quickly or performed them very wrong to be in his situation. the % of people who get hurt here permenately has to less then 5 %.

Just a quick addition: Though the "80% of ED is organic" statisitc is basically accurate, the vast majority of this is caused by blood pressure and other cardiovascular issues, not internal damage to the penis. I was unable to find the journal article, but I actually read something about his long ago and it suggested that 'traumatic injury' and other issues directly relating to the penile tissue accounted for less than 5% of ED cases.

That being said, I don't have a particular side in this. I believe Penis Enlargement can be dangerous because this isn't some well-tested and researched practice. Penis Enlargement is practiced individually by huge assortment of guys who primarily communicate over the internet, where bullshit and miscommunication are unfortunately the dominant mode of operation.

Plus, and I hate to be crass, but the fact is a lot of guys on these forums and others aren't too bright, are impatient, don't follow instructions or understand biology, safety, etc, and are prone to do things in a way that will end up hurting them, no matter how much good information is out there.

The limited commentary from the members of the medical community that have ever looked at Penis Enlargement is mixed, but mostly negative, often suggesting that scar tissue and poor tissue health could be caused by some Penis Enlargement practices. In spite of that, men put their dicks through far more traumatic shit than jelqing all the time and don't suffer from ED, and there's a wealth of anecdotal evidence that suggests that Penis Enlargement is safe for most.

Nobody can ever say with 100% authority that Penis Enlargement is 100% safe for 100% of the guys that practice it -- but, I think we can say that if done carefully and properly, then it doesn't pose a huge health risk.

Also, I think that it's more than possible to injure yourself jelqing. Duration, intensity, natural tissue resistance and vascular health, ect, are all variables that could lead one guy to get hurt while another has no trouble with the exercise. There's no agreed upon exact definition of jelqing, so it's pretty naive to say that it can't possible lead to injury.

My post stands on ED. I go by my experience and I have dealt with thousands of men. There is not ONE man I have ever helped with this issue that did not recover. That is my experience.

This post stands also. As was said, he was going to post this anyway.

DLD

@ REBER 187

hand in hand with something that is brand new comes the ineludible trail and error phase. like it or not we are the gunnine pigs, the lab rats, the front-line of the expedition; and i'm sure nigh-on everybody who visits a Penis Enlargement site before they begin their adventure into this lifestyle realizes this, hence the million and one newbie's asking wearily if Penis Enlargement will break their dick.
we're adults here and should act accordingly(which is rich coming from me i know), but my point is that we willing allow this Penis Enlargement obsession into our lives and we are in total control of what we do with it thereafter.
so what advice, forewarnings, information should be clubbed into the mindset of a newbie?
READ and absorb the information at one's disposal here or at any other Penis Enlargement site.
ask questions when you are unsure or in need of help.
and last but by no means least, listen to your penis/body until you fully understand how it is communicating what is happening before, during, after a workout.

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YES ! Amen !


@ ITHIEL

obviously if a couple people injure themselves doing Penis Enlargement it dont mean everybody else will. You cant discredit this shit just cuz of that. I don't really know what the deal so.

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You don't get the point ! Let me turn around your own words for you to see :

Obviously if most people don't injure themselves in the shortterm, while few others DO , it doesn't mean they will get out of Penis Enlargement with a healthy penis in the longterm. Besides no one is discrediting anything.


@ MILLIONMAN

T-birdy is not "blaming" Penis Enlargement for his ED. He's simply stating that his problem occurred while he was attempting to enlarge his penis. The sensible person realizes that Penis Enlargement has the potential to be dangerous. Lifting weights can be dangerous too, as I have a torn pec. major to prove that possibility to be quite real. I've been here for 5 years as well, and I have to say that there is a trend in the types of responses that DLD gives to these sorts of posts. I don't understand why he responds with "you don't know what I've sacrificed and what I've had to go through", and ultimately takes to attacking the credibility of the person. This is not an instance of him being "called out" about his pictures or any other such nonsense. This is a long standing member PMing him, which makes this a PRIVATE matter, and now it's public. I have to question the motivation behind such behavior. It's unnecessary and I think it makes DLD look childish and immature.

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Yes ! Thankyou! You hit the nail on the head. Thankyou for your sharp mind and your ability to say all there is needed to say in a few simple sentences, whereas I always wind up writing epic storys in order to attempt the same, that just tires peoples eyes mostly


@ CRAZYED27

Tbirdy,

Like others have said I'm sorry you injuried yourself bad enough to get ED. But don't smash DLD and his thought on Penis Enlargement for your problems or anyone elses. Pe might not have even caused your leak, maybe it was genetics.

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I don't have anything about myself that I consider as problematic for myself.
I don't bash DLD as a whole Person - I critisize his single last action, for obvious reasons. Something I haven't seen from him EVER in 5 years here.
To me a person is always the SUM of all his deeds and actions. So what if he obviously fucked up on this "single last" action. No one is perfect and he could still chime in anytime , keep his face, and admit he just had a bad day.


@ AIRSHY and DEMOLITION_MAN

Injuries are a potential in anything we do. If you dont want to risk them dont mess with Penis Enlargement. Fair enough. If you do get hurt just admit it was because you were not listening to the vets (or your body) and eventually something had to give. Penis Enlargement has given so many people so much, and DLD and many others are a part of this. As it's been said many times, anyone with sense realizes that there is a potential for great harm when engaging in P.E.
Yet, many of us still ignore these risks and plunge head on into the World of Penis Enlargement. Why? Because it freaking WORKS! But, even with our full attention to safety, most of us injure ourselves at some point during Penis Enlargement. So yes, Penis Enlargement can be dangerous in and of itself, but often the most dangerous factor is our INABILITY TO REALIZE OUR OWN LIMITATIONS.

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Yes ! I agree with everything you say. Especially the last sentence "THE INABILITY TO REALIZE OUR OWN LIMITATIONS"

Throw in the mix: Most guys who join here are A) VERY YOUNG B) ARE INSECURE ABOUT THEIR Penis EnlargementNIS SIZE C) BEING YOUNG AND INSECURE AND UNEXPenis EnlargementRIENCED IN LIFE IN GENERALL THEY ARE ---> D) DESPenis EnlargementRATE FOR A QUICK SOLUTION ! THEY---> E) ENDULGE IN Penis Enlargement AND COMPLETELY OVERSEE THE SMALL WARNINGS HERE AND THERE. THIS IS WHY F) WE, THE VETERANS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO WISE THEM UP AND IF NESSESSARY MAKE IT CLEAR THAT Penis Enlargement IS NOT THE SINGLE SOLUTION FOR THE ABOVE MENTIONED PROBLEMS AND NEEDS OF THE YOUNGSTERS. GETTING A NEW MINDSET, UPPING THE DATING GAME SKILLS AND CHANGING THE GIRLFIREND WILL LEAD TO THE SAME HAPPINESS IN MOST CASES ! ESPenis EnlargementCIALLY BECAUSE ALL THE INFO HERE IS FREE AND EASILY ACCESSABLE THE WARNINGS AND THE EXACT REASONS FOR THE WARNINGS SHOULD BE TRIPLE THE SIZE AND TRIPLE THE IMPORTANCE OF ANY ADVERTISMENT OR PROGRAMM OR Penis Enlargement-TECHNIQUE !


@SAMZMAN

I'm sorry you completely missed the point.
The love you have for DLD is shared by all of us, and the feeling that he is genuine too ! Lets make sure it STAYS THAT WAY.


@ goinfor11x7 AGREED 100%


@ MILLIONMAN

Wow, I'm really surprised that all of the responses to T-birdy have been "don't blame anyone else, blame yourself". I've read his posts 2-3 times through, and I've read some of his other posts in the injury section and the guy is just attempting to make a point. It'd be different if the guy hurt himself after a 2-3 hour clamp session, but he did it jelqing. That's the easiest thing in Penis Enlargement to learn, and maybe he was doing it wrong and maybe he did everything correctly. There's no blaming going on, it seems to me that he wants DLD to acknowledge that Penis Enlargement is dangerous and can cause such a HUGE problem and so far DLD has balked at his claims and has responded back with "it's all mental" and now he's gone as far as to try to publicly embarrass and belittle a long standing member.

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Thank you for understanding. There is NO BLAMING going on from TBIRDY to/ON DLD for TBIRDYs PROBLEMS (tbirdy don't have any problems right now) ---> BUT FROM TBIRDY TO DLD FOR NOT HAVING THE RESPONSIBILITY HE SHOULD HAVE BEING THE OWNER , CREATOR OF THIS SITE AND THE LEADER OF THIS PACK. I EXPenis EnlargementCT THE BEST (INTENTIONS) FROM HIM AND NOTHING LESS.


AGAIN @ MILLIONMAN

SAMZ, You're missing the bigger problem. DLD took a private matter and has made it a public issue. That's the problem that I have with this WHOLE thread. There was no open forum attack on DLD, but there has been an open forum attack on T-birdy instigated by DLD.

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Exactly ! This is what happened : I wrote a rather epic reply on the "Cell growth and a video" thread. As an (inofficial but obvious) response to this DLD wrote his "Motivation, Belief, Dysfunction and Goals (my latest Blog)"

As a response to THIS , I wrote the same thing I wrote in the PM TO DLD, as a post/reply undernieth his thread. I copied the whole thing and took it off 5 minutes later to send it to him in private. The reason for my action was because I realized several things. I don't want to start any open wars/beefs. I have to respect DLD for what he was and is and keep it private. Most of all : THIS IS NOT MY FORUM - Its his Baby , okay. Who am I to mess with the owner of something. Last but not least the fear of getting banned.
You can imagine I was surprised that he made this public. Thats like shooting once own leg , judging from the responses here - its all so clearly isn't it ?



@ Penis EnlargementPenis Enlargement

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Originally Posted by samzman View Post
there are tons of attacks on DLD, i figure a man can only take so much. but i'm not lookin to beef with you or anyone.

also didn't he say that he made the same post or somethin on a public thread? i may be wrong
ya he did post it publically tbirdy even admitted it.

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Correct Penis EnlargementPenis Enlargement , but same as above . I did post it public for 5 minutes !!! then re-edit it, copied and send to dld by PM !



@twins172_up

i know this thread is gonna probably go on for a while...and i read it earlier and already 20 more people chimed in...i just wanted to say that i agree with millionman...tbirdy didn't say noone should do pe...he didn't blame anybody...i believe he just want the equal amount of attention to be spent on the risk as it is on the benefits...he has been doing pe for a while...and noone can say he did anything wrong or he just overdid it...people need to wake up and realize this has a danger like anything else in life....someone taking a certain drug for the first time can kill them while the next man gets high as hell....someone can take a hit in football and break his neck and the next man take the same exact hit...and jumps right back up...all tbirdy was saying is he want it to be known how dangerous this could be...even for the vets....he has the right to speak his mind and he didn't sound preachy to me at all...and as for making it a public issue...well we see what that cause....dld and tbirdy are two mature adults and i'm sure they can resolve an issue they may have...i just thank dld...for the knowledge that he has provided and if i happen to do something to my body while using that knowledge..the only person to be blamed will be me...but i don't think a lot of new guys understand the risk...we just tell them be careful...don't over do it..go easy at first...but in reality it can be just as dangerous in any phase...i hope everyone hear practice healthy pe...and hope no serious injury occurs to anyone..respect

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Again. Thankyou for understanding. Thats exactly how I feel about it.


@ THREAK-X

wins172_up--Cigarette smoking is dangerous to your health and they give a warning on every package sold. The warning is general without giving you every single detail of the dangers. Driving a car is dangerous and when you purchase a vehicle from a Car dealer the sales person don't give you every detail of the dangers of operating a vehicle before driving off of their car lot. You guys are really taking this way too personal. DLD simply exposed tbirdy for acting like a reformed smoker and wanting everyone to quit and not let the tobacco companies profit from it anymore.

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MY GOD THIS IS GENIOUS COMPARISON / EXAMPLE MY MAN !

Yes I admit : I am acting like a reformed smoker who wants everyone to quit !

But what does THIS SAY about DLD ? -> HIM ACTING LIKE A TOBACCO COMPANY and PRETENDING TO BE A BIG FAMILY ? Look at my PM to him the same thing YOU accuse him of is the same thing I accuse him off !
---> NOT GIVING A FUCK ABOUT THE Penis EnlargementOPLE WHO JOIN HERE, FOR MATERIAL REASONS, ONLY DOING THE LEAST NESSESSARY EDUCATION/WARNING as IN warnings on ciggerate packets , that don't give you any reasons , but fullfill the premise of being a warning. Beautiful , eh ? :-D


AGAIN @ TWINS127UP

this much is true in all cases Threak...i just don't want anyone jumping all over another member because they had choice words with dld...i've been here for a long time...and it get real old everyone coming out the wood work to gang up on one person because they feel like they have to come to dld rescue...dld is a big boy and can handle themselves....you are also right Threak...we take a risk by just walking out our door in the morning...but i feel if people were more informed on the risks..we wouldn't have countless threads after someone injure themselves complaining about it...but then again i can be wrong...anyway..i hope everyone stays healthy

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Exactly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-----> WHY NOT STOP THIS WHOLE ARGUEMENT RIGHT HERE AND TRANSFORM ALL OF THIS THREAD INTO A POSITIVE ACTION ?

Let me keep my face AND let DLD keep his face = No winners or loosers , WE ALL WIN ! Lets change the APPenis EnlargementARANCE OF THIS FORUM and INSTALL BETTER WARNINGS AND BETTER EDUCATION/ REASONS FOR THE WARNINGA AND ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION FOR YOUNG GUYS PROBLEMS (wich they think manifest in a small penis) but infact are only symptems of something different for example : The need for a girlfriend , the need for acceptance , the need for more happiness in their life - wich only a mature mind will give them and not ONE SINGLE UNIMPORTANT DETAIL ABOUT THEIR PHYSIQUE !
Lets SHIFT THE GENERALL ATTITUDE TOWARDS Penis Enlargement.


@atlyroc

you saying basically as much as we promote benifits of pe same energy in warning about the negatives and risks?

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I look at the pic of your avatar and I must say : HALLELUJAH ! PREACH BROTHER PREACH :-D :-D :-D !!!!!! YES IN DEED !!! EXACTLY THIS ATTITUDE !!!!!!!!!

@Penis EnlargementPenis Enlargement ok is not important to add anymore but still every sentence there is uncorrect and mere speculation. Or were you sitting next to me, watching over my shoulder while I was jelquing my dick, watching if I performed correctly so you can report back , now, 4 years later ?? ? :-D Comon..take it easy----am joking



Perfect time for DLD to make a DLD worthy move and let all of this be something positive and not a waste of time and energy and effort and wisdom and wise minds...

Peace @ Everybody !