Thoughts on Rest

[millionman]

Ok, so the IPR theory has been floated here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. It's not a bad theory, and it can be utilized for men who have issues with erection quality and also as a change of pace from constant Penis Enlargement. It. as everything else in the Penis Enlargement world, is a tool and most importantly it evokes thought on current routines and the progress you've made working in a certain manner.

In my own experiences I've found that it is necessary to rest and break from Penis Enlargement for 2-3 days, and I've even gone as far to take off for 3 months. These breaks have always improved my mental health as well as my Penis Enlargement routines upon my return.

Most recently I've been focused on how rest affects the quality of my erections, sessions (girth and length), mentality, and how I progress. So far the reaction to 2-3 days off once in a week has been very helpful and my sessions are very productive. Progress isn't necessarily measureable in girth, but my length has improved very rapidly, as I'm stretching closer to 8.5" on a cold measure than I ever have. My post session length is a bit more than 8.5". Girth on OFF days has improved to a bit more than 5.6" with no edging, and I've noticed that my girth sessions post length session/ADS have been very productive as of late.

My routine consists of 6 upper angle stretches; meaning I stretch above horizontal in a middle, right, left direction respectively. After these stretches I move into a bundled stretch at horizontal moving left, middle, and right respectively. Each stretch is held for 30 seconds each, and then I sit with a heating pad post session for about 5 minutes. Then I get into my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and spend anywhere from 4-6 hours in it in an around the waist position. I usually get to a point where I can't keep the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] on any longer than 4-6 hours without having to reset it every 30-60 minutes beacuse of skin discomfort.

After this I then have a pumping and clamping girth session later in the evening. This usually consists of 1-2 sets of pumping and clamping consecutively. I pump for 10 minutes and then I clamp for 10 and this is a great girth workout and it doesn't cause erection problems until I hit days 3-4 in a given rotation. Anyway, this is how I've been working things recently and I'll contiue to work this until I don't get anything from it.

 

[rustyg]

I measure in a few days (have seen length increases unofficial though) and will report then. I am using more of a less is more routine currently.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Ok, so the IPR theory has been floated here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. It's not a bad theory, and it can be utilized for men who have issues with erection quality and also as a change of pace from constant Penis Enlargement. It. as everything else in the Penis Enlargement world, is a tool and most importantly it evokes thought on current routines and the progress you've made working in a certain manner.

In my own experiences I've found that it is necessary to rest and break from Penis Enlargement for 2-3 days, and I've even gone as far to take off for 3 months. These breaks have always improved my mental health as well as my Penis Enlargement routines upon my return.

Most recently I've been focused on how rest affects the quality of my erections, sessions (girth and length), mentality, and how I progress. So far the reaction to 2-3 days off once in a week has been very helpful and my sessions are very productive. Progress isn't necessarily measureable in girth, but my length has improved very rapidly, as I'm stretching closer to 8.5" on a cold measure than I ever have. My post session length is a bit more than 8.5". Girth on OFF days has improved to a bit more than 5.6" with no edging, and I've noticed that my girth sessions post length session/ADS have been very productive as of late.

My routine consists of 6 upper angle stretches; meaning I stretch above horizontal in a middle, right, left direction respectively. After these stretches I move into a bundled stretch at horizontal moving left, middle, and right respectively. Each stretch is held for 30 seconds each, and then I sit with a heating pad post session for about 5 minutes. Then I get into my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and spend anywhere from 4-6 hours in it in an around the waist position. I usually get to a point where I can't keep the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] on any longer than 4-6 hours without having to reset it every 30-60 minutes beacuse of skin discomfort.

After this I then have a pumping and clamping girth session later in the evening. This usually consists of 1-2 sets of pumping and clamping consecutively. I pump for 10 minutes and then I clamp for 10 and this is a great girth workout and it doesn't cause erection problems until I hit days 3-4 in a given rotation. Anyway, this is how I've been working things recently and I'll contiue to work this until I don't get anything from it.

So you're gaining length from such a minimal manual stretching routine?

How have your girth gains been?
and what exactly do you mean your girth session post length/ads have been really productive as of late?

I'm trying to construct the ideal length/girth routine for when i come back from my Decon period.

 

[millionman]

The length routine for me usually takes anywhere from 30-45 minutes. What I have written down is what I go through, but I usually do include some different angle stretches as well like BTC or SD but that's usually for 1-2 stretches at most. I think the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] is what has helped me the most because I can keep a pretty high level of tension on with the Vac-extender with no problems.

What I meant by the post length girth session, is that I do my girth sessions AFTER my length sessions. The reason I wrote it that way is because I used to not work length and girth in the same day, and usually not at the same time at all. I used to hang and girth work interfers with hanging because of fluid buildup, so I would go weeks at a time without working girth at all. So far it seems that the added stress on the tunica has helped me gain fairly quickly. I'll measure again in 4-6 weeks.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

The length routine for me usually takes anywhere from 30-45 minutes. What I have written down is what I go through, but I usually do include some different angle stretches as well like BTC or SD but that's usually for 1-2 stretches at most. I think the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] is what has helped me the most because I can keep a pretty high level of tension on with the Vac-extender with no problems.

What I meant by the post length girth session, is that I do my girth sessions AFTER my length sessions. The reason I wrote it that way is because I used to not work length and girth in the same day, and usually not at the same time at all. I used to hang and girth work interfers with hanging because of fluid buildup, so I would go weeks at a time without working girth at all. So far it seems that the added stress on the tunica has helped me gain fairly quickly. I'll measure again in 4-6 weeks.

I have the fast size noose style [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I remember there was alot of skin irritation that came with it. Do you recomend this vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?

 

[millionman]

Yes I do recommend it because it is a comfortable device but most importantly it has several functions. This is a very good device and the best [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] I've ever used.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Yes I do recommend it because it is a comfortable device but most importantly it has several functions. This is a very good device and the best [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] I've ever used.

how long can you wear it in one sitting?

Also they have a combo Vacu hanger + vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] head for 150$. do you think its worth it to get both? I have a max vac which I'll probably use for heavy hanging.

 

[millionman]

Well, for one go around today I wore it for a good 5-6 hours without a break. I had some fluid buildup in the head but nothing serious and with absolutely no discomfort. The only time I ever have trouble is when I'm driving and my hip and thigh are squeezed together against the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and it's compressed for a period of time. This just causes some skin pinch that I really just don't like, but it's nothing to worry about. The device is EXTREMELY easy to wear and is really comfortable.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Well, for one go around today I wore it for a good 5-6 hours without a break. I had some fluid buildup in the head but nothing serious and with absolutely no discomfort. The only time I ever have trouble is when I'm driving and my hip and thigh are squeezed together against the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and it's compressed for a period of time. This just causes some skin pinch that I really just don't like, but it's nothing to worry about. The device is EXTREMELY easy to wear and is really comfortable.

sold!

 

[goldmember]

RoninTT is keeping a very good log of this device with pictures and all.

 

[longstretch]

VK why don't you use the max-vac as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. There is a whole forum dedicated to ADSing with the max-vac at mynewsize. It took me a while to get it but I got it. I'm going to try and use swm's style. He attaches two bungie cords to a ankle strap. He says it keeps tension even when you are sitting.

 

[10inchadvantage]

Well, for one go around today I wore it for a good 5-6 hours without a break. I had some fluid buildup in the head but nothing serious and with absolutely no discomfort. The only time I ever have trouble is when I'm driving and my hip and thigh are squeezed together against the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and it's compressed for a period of time. This just causes some skin pinch that I really just don't like, but it's nothing to worry about. The device is EXTREMELY easy to wear and is really comfortable.

Do you take a piss? rofl
On a serious note, I think with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]PhalloSan[/words] you can piss while still wearing it, if I'm not mistaken, although it's way overpriced.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

VK why don't you use the max-vac as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. There is a whole forum dedicated to ADSing with the max-vac at mynewsize. It took me a while to get it but I got it. I'm going to try and use swm's style. He attaches two bungie cords to a ankle strap. He says it keeps tension even when you are sitting.

I don't find it stealthy.
but I will check it out.

 

[millionman]

Actually since it's getting colder I don't drink as much water, but yes I do still take a piss every now and again. As far as keeping time I usually don't count the 30-60 seconds that I'm not in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] against coonsecutive wear time.

VK, It looks bulky to me as well. The Vac-extender has so many different uses that it is without a doubt the best purchase, and to get it with a vac-hanger is ridiculous.

I have to say that what I'm doing now seems to be working very very well. I am now able to hit the 8" FSL on a cold stretch, and after a session I'm getting in the neighborhood of 8.5" on a light BP measurement. I think [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] is the whole key to a rapid increase in length, that's in comparison to a standard non-ADS supported length routine. My stats recently using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] compared to what progress was like before seems like night and day.

 

[10inchadvantage]

Yes, I also believe keeping the penis extended all day AND night while not hanging is a big booster to length gains. I have been successfully [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ANS[/words] for the past two weeks straight. That's a good 8 hours of light pulling on my penis!

millionman, with the vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], do you have to wear a sheath around your penis? Or is all you need the sheath used on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] itself?

With TheGRIP's [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] I use two sheaths and then put on the weight-attachment sleeve.

I LOVE the feeling of having my penis tugged on all day. I can feel the cells just expanding along with my tunica. I'm also hoping that [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ANS[/words] will help me gain a little girth, along with the hanging and ADSing I do during the day, since at night I have a bunch of erections, a lot of time waking up with one, and the weight-attachment is still perfectly on my penis and getting pulled by my 24" key reel.

 

[longstretch]

I don't find it stealthy.
but I will check it out.

Yeah I know what you mean. I think it just takes time to adjusting it to your needs. There is a video at mynewsize with BTC doing jumping kicks while ADSing. I think once I get it perfect I will feel comfortable wearing it at college. The only thing wrong now is the weight attachment bangs into the coupler hose and makes a clanking sound. Maybe if I tape them together...mmmh.

The vac-extender would be perfect for ADSing too. I'm in college and can't afford to spend that much money on stretching devices.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Yeah I know what you mean. I think it just takes time to adjusting it to your needs. There is a video at mynewsize with BTC doing jumping kicks while ADSing. I think once I get it perfect I will feel comfortable wearing it at college. The only thing wrong now is the weight attachment bangs into the coupler hose and makes a clanking sound. Maybe if I tape them together...mmmh.

The vac-extender would be perfect for ADSing too. I'm in college and can't afford to spend that much money on stretching devices.

exactly my concern.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Actually since it's getting colder I don't drink as much water, but yes I do still take a piss every now and again. As far as keeping time I usually don't count the 30-60 seconds that I'm not in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] against coonsecutive wear time.

VK, It looks bulky to me as well. The Vac-extender has so many different uses that it is without a doubt the best purchase, and to get it with a vac-hanger is ridiculous.

I have to say that what I'm doing now seems to be working very very well. I am now able to hit the 8" FSL on a cold stretch, and after a session I'm getting in the neighborhood of 8.5" on a light BP measurement. I think [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] is the whole key to a rapid increase in length, that's in comparison to a standard non-ADS supported length routine. My stats recently using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] compared to what progress was like before seems like night and day.

I have a fastsize [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Do you recomend I buy the whole [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] from autoextender for 129, or just the modified vac-extender head (for third party [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]) for 89.99.

or

would you recommend the total package vac-extender and their vac hanger for 189.99 ?

 

[10inchadvantage]

I have a fastsize [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Do you recomend I buy the whole [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] from autoextender for 129, or just the modified vac-extender head (for third party [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]) for 89.99.

or

would you recommend the total package vac-extender and their vac hanger for 189.99 ?

I have seen people using TheGRIP's weight-attachment sleeve for it. It's like $25.

 

[millionman]

Well, the whole package from vac-extender is good, but if money is an issue then get the vac-extender. Remember with it by itself it can be used as a hanger, an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] in multiple positions, and an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Multiple functions makes this device AWESOME!!! I reccomend getting it over the head attachment alone, simply because it comes with all the attachments for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], extra silicone sleeves, and the exteder portion as well.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

I have seen people using TheGRIP's weight-attachment sleeve for it. It's like $25.

I'd seen the www.thegrip.com before but damn I didnt remember how pricey they are.:O

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Well, the whole package from vac-extender is good, but if money is an issue then get the vac-extender. Remember with it by itself it can be used as a hanger, an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] in multiple positions, and an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Multiple functions makes this device AWESOME!!! I reccomend getting it over the head attachment alone, simply because it comes with all the attachments for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], extra silicone sleeves, and the exteder portion as well.

ok I will look into this around january. Hopefully you will have gained more by then.


I know I asked this before, but I can't remember your answer to this.
How much did you gain before your gains stalled (length and girth) and how much have you gained since starting the routine with 'rest' in mind?

 

[millionman]

I stalled at 7.5" BPenis EnlargementL for probably more than a year and a half. My girth has been going up as of late, but for a while it seemed that every time I measured I'd hit right at 5.5" or less. I fluctuated so much with my girth measurements it was actually kind of depressing, because I WAS putting in so much time. Now that I've cut my girth sessions back to maybe 2-3 sessions per week, and stretching has become an everyday occurance, that my numbers have started to increase at a pretty constant rate. Right now I measure at 5.6" and post session I have measured at 5.75" at the MS and at the head right near 5.6". I never get more expansion than .25" regardless of what I do and anymore than that is fluid. I have been keeping the intensity of the sessions in check and shoot for maximum expansion in the 1-2 pump/clamp sets in one session. This has worked really well so far.

For stretching I've gone back to the basics with SO stretches to start and progressing into bundled SO stretches, and just today I got into bundled A-stretches. I was able to pull my penis up to the middle portion of my belly button, it's a good measuring point for me because I have a long torso, even after I took off my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for the night. This is a pretty sweet little regimen I'm working on and I have to say that it's not taxing me mentally and I'm usually only an hour to 90 minutes TOTAL, and that's only IF I do girth work during that day. This routine's sole focus is TUNICA growth and it really is working quite well. When I hit 9" FSL I'll be sure to post it up in the main forum. I'm at 8" on a cold stretch, and I'm inching ever closer to 8.5".

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

I stalled at 7.5" BPenis EnlargementL for probably more than a year and a half. My girth has been going up as of late, but for a while it seemed that every time I measured I'd hit right at 5.5" or less. I fluctuated so much with my girth measurements it was actually kind of depressing, because I WAS putting in so much time. Now that I've cut my girth sessions back to maybe 2-3 sessions per week, and stretching has become an everyday occurance, that my numbers have started to increase at a pretty constant rate. Right now I measure at 5.6" and post session I have measured at 5.75" at the MS and at the head right near 5.6". I never get more expansion than .25" regardless of what I do and anymore than that is fluid. I have been keeping the intensity of the sessions in check and shoot for maximum expansion in the 1-2 pump/clamp sets in one session. This has worked really well so far.

For stretching I've gone back to the basics with SO stretches to start and progressing into bundled SO stretches, and just today I got into bundled A-stretches. I was able to pull my penis up to the middle portion of my belly button, it's a good measuring point for me because I have a long torso, even after I took off my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for the night. This is a pretty sweet little regimen I'm working on and I have to say that it's not taxing me mentally and I'm usually only an hour to 90 minutes TOTAL, and that's only IF I do girth work during that day. This routine's sole focus is TUNICA growth and it really is working quite well. When I hit 9" FSL I'll be sure to post it up in the main forum. I'm at 8" on a cold stretch, and I'm inching ever closer to 8.5".

What was your starting length/girth? and how much newbie gains did you have?

 

[DKS]

im a big advocate for rest. I believe u get better gains and harder erections, and thats what ive been getting

 

[10inchadvantage]

I just did 2 x 10 sets of clamping after not doing any girth work over the past month. My penis felt like it was going to explode, and only after 10 minutes! It felt like the very first time I ever clamped. Although I have lost some girth for not having time to do good girth sets <

 

[millionman]

Damn VK. I started at 6" EL, probably on one of the hardest BP measurements I've ever taken. I had a 6" ruler and I HAD to make sure I was longer than the ruler because it LOOKED SOOOOO small. Erect girth was probably a bit below 5", maybe even closer to 4.5" but I'm not 100% sure because I never measured.

Newbie gains I qualify in the first 2-6 months, because anything longer than 6 months I'm fairly sure your penis is conditioned to a certain extent. I gained about .5"-.75" in length and I hit 5" in girth around the 8 month mark. Remember I've been a member here for nearly 3 years and for a LONG time I had plateaued at 7.5" BPenis EnlargementL and 5.25" in girth. It's only been very recently that I've started to gain significantly, again. I have to say taking a step back and evaluating what I had been doing against my progress and I decided to try resting in between girth sessions and going BACK to a manual length routine but this time with an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and this has kick started a whole new round of gains. It feels good, and I mean really good to look down and actually see a big penis and not just have a fleeting feeling every now and again.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Damn VK. I started at 6" EL, probably on one of the hardest BP measurements I've ever taken. I had a 6" ruler and I HAD to make sure I was longer than the ruler because it LOOKED SOOOOO small. Erect girth was probably a bit below 5", maybe even closer to 4.5" but I'm not 100% sure because I never measured.

Newbie gains I qualify in the first 2-6 months, because anything longer than 6 months I'm fairly sure your penis is conditioned to a certain extent. I gained about .5"-.75" in length and I hit 5" in girth around the 8 month mark. Remember I've been a member here for nearly 3 years and for a LONG time I had plateaued at 7.5" BPenis EnlargementL and 5.25" in girth. It's only been very recently that I've started to gain significantly, again. I have to say taking a step back and evaluating what I had been doing against my progress and I decided to try resting in between girth sessions and going BACK to a manual length routine but this time with an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and this has kick started a whole new round of gains. It feels good, and I mean really good to look down and actually see a big penis and not just have a fleeting feeling every now and again.

Ya I seem to be exactly where you were. I haven't gained any length for the past 2 and half years, maybe slightly longer. I plateaued at 7 5/8th FSL and my bp EL is around 7.5 (slightly lower).

how much different are your EL measurements and your FSL measurements? do you see gains in EL measurements as soon as your FSL goes up? I've noticed some people have mentioned gaining FSL while their EL has stayed the same.

I think you mentioned post session you hit 8.5" bp fsl. what's your EL measurement pre and post session?



p.s. I remember the first time I measured my dick, I had a 6 inch ruler too, and I was jamming the ruler into myself (on the side of my dick) to get to 6".
My gf at the time had given me a 'big dick' compliments (?) and up until then it hadn't really been that big of a concern to me but i was like Hydromaxm.. lets see how i stack up.. after the measurement I got depressed. I asked her how big she thought I was she's like 'Hydromaxm you look around 7?' i'm like ya im 6.8.. ( i lied about my size < )... Hopefully I'll get passed this brick wall and hit the 8.5 nbpEL.

 

[millionman]

I'm 8" BPFSL and about 7.6" BPenis EnlargementL, so it's around .5" difference. When I have a growth spurt then I'll usually grow in FSL and then after some girth work it will show up as EL. I am not really sure when it kind of "turns" but I can say that I have to grow significantly in FSL, usually around .25" or more, and then my EL seems to "catch" up.

Post session I measure a bit more than 8.25", and I'm getting closer to 8.5" post session. That's significant improvement in the last 2-3 weeks, as I was measuring 8" post session, and now that's my cold measurement.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

I'm 8" BPFSL and about 7.6" BPenis EnlargementL, so it's around .5" difference. When I have a growth spurt then I'll usually grow in FSL and then after some girth work it will show up as EL. I am not really sure when it kind of "turns" but I can say that I have to grow significantly in FSL, usually around .25" or more, and then my EL seems to "catch" up.

Post session I measure a bit more than 8.25", and I'm getting closer to 8.5" post session. That's significant improvement in the last 2-3 weeks, as I was measuring 8" post session, and now that's my cold measurement.

very interesting.
So you've gained around a tenth of an inch in BPenis EnlargementL. After stalling for so long, the smallest gain can light up your day. You'll slowly but surely move up the ladder.


I just finished my third week of decon and have entered my 4th. surprisingly, I'm not losing any size (knock on wood), but im not 'gaining' either as some people have gained from resting.

I'm thinking of doing a 2-3 week 'I' stage starting mid January, with the first two weeks focused only on length, and perhaps another 2 weeks focused on girth while ADSing for length. I'm hoping that my EL will increase rapidly in the first 2 weeks, and the second two weeks to shock my girth. I will then move onto 4 weeks of 'P' phase where the first two weeks will be [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] + ADC/ANC and the last two weeks will only be ADC/ANC. I will rest all of march and April, and start again May.

with IPR, 0.5" gain in length and 0.125 -0.25" girth isn't uncommon. Given this projection, I can hit 8.5" EL x 6.5 EG by end of summer, which will be great. I will then procceed to beat women with my massive peenus .

 

[millionman]

Well this week has been a good week for length work, but because my manual stretching and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] has caused some glans irritation issues I haven't really wanted to have a girth session. I let things rest a bit today and I'm still pulling up around my belly button, once I get on a roll with length it's kind of hard for me to not strap on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] or to have a session, but I didn't today. I'm really tired at the moment, and I can say that today was a great day not to have a session. I had an awesome lift tonight and I'm going to hit length or girth tomorrow, but who knows. With this current routine it's all kind of how I feel and I'm just going with it. I am still resting 2-3 days a week, but again length tends to be done in 2 week cycles and then I rest, but that's a story for when I'm more lucid.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Well this week has been a good week for length work, but because my manual stretching and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] has caused some glans irritation issues I haven't really wanted to have a girth session. I let things rest a bit today and I'm still pulling up around my belly button, once I get on a roll with length it's kind of hard for me to not strap on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] or to have a session, but I didn't today. I'm really tired at the moment, and I can say that today was a great day not to have a session. I had an awesome lift tonight and I'm going to hit length or girth tomorrow, but who knows. With this current routine it's all kind of how I feel and I'm just going with it. I am still resting 2-3 days a week, but again length tends to be done in 2 week cycles and then I rest, but that's a story for when I'm more lucid.

so you seperate length and girth cycles?

do you do the whole 'R' part of the IPR phase?

 

[millionman]

Well, I do rest, and in fact I'm taking a 3 day break right now. I started yesterday, and I will carry on through tomorrow and start back on Sunday. I don't really mean to separate them, it kind of happens that way though. The issue for me is my glans gets pretty torn up from the stretching and it's too sensitive to do girth work. My glans is so tender after a stretching and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] session that it makes staying hard a very difficult thing to do without wincing if I touch the wrong spot. I'm hoping my next length focused cycle I don't have that big of an issue, but this next week I'm going to do my best to go through a complete work through with both length and girth sessions. I'm going to go with 4 length sessions and 2-3 girth sessions, and girth sessions will have at least 1 day in between for maximum recovery and erectile function. With length I'm still a bit paranoid about stretching and resting, but I will see what happens. I've rested the last day plus today and I'm still at 8" FSL.

 

[millionman]

Ok, I'm going to report something I've been thinking on and have finally put into practice.

I've taken off from girth work for approximately two weeks. I do occasionally do some light dry jelqs when I'm using the restroom, but nothing in the way of a pump and clamp session. I've hit girth 3 days in a row with my first two session being 2 sets of 10 minutes in tube and clamped. Today is the taper day. I only did 1 set of each and then hot water bath and that was it. My final number today was a bit below the 6" mark MS, and a bit more than 5.75" US. This is a pretty large increase from the last girth session I had, which I didn't write down but I recall it being something a bit more than 5.75" MS.

With rest and then a moderate approach I think continual progression is possible, as long as you're willing to evaluate the processes you're pursuing to reach your goals. I'm off tomorrow and will likely have 2 more girth sessions on Thursday and then again on Saturday, as Friday will probably be too busy. I don't really have a theory in mind for this, but I do think that with healing the tissues can grow while at rest and become even larger once stress is reintroduced.