HGH and IGF Chem PE
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Supra said:
do you give credit to the igf-1lr3 for the .5" gain?
That may be the "theory", the reality is that it ABSOLUTELY will assist exponentially the growth at the site of injection, that is reality, not some unproven theory. Yes, it does have systemic uptake as well, but the site injection increase is absolutely fact, if you haven't experienced it or tried it yourself, supporting a "theory" is rather foolish.WideAwake said:
Yea, Im a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] member and never posted here before. I just look over posts but after seeing this I had to say something. I know a good deal about steroids and such, and I just wanted to let Supra know that IGF is one of the more dangerous compounds. If your body gets too much theres a good chance you'll go into an insulin coma and never wake up again. Be happy you have a big dick unlike me. Steroids arn't bad if you know what you're doing with them, but IGF is kinda tricky. It's not worth risking your life when you already have a big dick. Cool it bro.
LOL, you guys are funny.
So how about it? It seems like everyone here is waiting for the big experts to reveil their secrets.
Does IGF-1 cause a fullgrown penis to start another phase of growing? Is this what you noticed Supra? The big question remaining to be answered can best be divided into these three options:
Does growth occur no matter where you inject the Long IGF-1 r3?
Does growth occur when injected directly into the penis? (like in Supra's case adding 0,5 in.)
Is it all nonsense?
I am planning an IGF-cycle as part of my bodybuilding interest, so I am more than curious to know things for sure if possible before I would start my own adventure.
Right now there's some sort of a magical atmosphere that should not be disturbed by the newbies although the experts seem to have lost interest, the way I see it. Am I all wrong? And if they lost interest... for what other reason than: "Damn, it didn't work the way we had hoped to!"?
Does IGF-1 cause a fullgrown penis to start another phase of growing? Is this what you noticed Supra? The big question remaining to be answered can best be divided into these three options:
Does growth occur no matter where you inject the Long IGF-1 r3?
Does growth occur when injected directly into the penis? (like in Supra's case adding 0,5 in.)
Is it all nonsense?
I am planning an IGF-cycle as part of my bodybuilding interest, so I am more than curious to know things for sure if possible before I would start my own adventure.
Right now there's some sort of a magical atmosphere that should not be disturbed by the newbies although the experts seem to have lost interest, the way I see it. Am I all wrong? And if they lost interest... for what other reason than: "Damn, it didn't work the way we had hoped to!"?
Just being curious,where do you get real IGF1 from?In an up to date steroid book is written that ALL IGF1 on the black market is fake and that it´s only produced by one company (SIGMA) and only being available to labs for experimental use!Everything else avilable on the market is supposed to be fake.
I dont know if it gives you a big dick but apparently it gives you a big gut.
Well maybe it just happened to him because he was still young when he received growth hormone therapy.But if GH increases the number of muscle cells what it definetely does then why shouldn´t it have an effect on penis tissue?Growth hormone deficiency just like hypogonadism leads to underdeveloped male genitals.Like I said,maybe only in adolescents.
But then again,why should IGF1 help the enlargement process?It is produced by the liver after GH injection.
But then again,why should IGF1 help the enlargement process?It is produced by the liver after GH injection.
large1 said:
It is not so much a question of why it should or shouln'd have an effect on an adult penis because the clinical observation is simply that it has no effect on an adult penis. The same is true with IGF1, despite the one or two stories you might read about on the web.
The penis seems to have some sort of pre-programed size. It a child takes growth hormone they will simply reach that size sooner; they will not over shoot it. Nobody knows the molecular mechanism behind this genetic programing, I do puBathmateed searches weekly to keep up with all of the latest research and believe me when I tell you that I want a chemical solution more than anyone because my fucking hands are tired.
As it stands, the only way I know of beating the genetic programing is through Penis Enlargement exercises. If I hang weight from my dick with a Bib hanger, it very very slowly gets longer and if I jelq away and clamp day after day for months, I very very slowly get thicker. I would like to wrap this up in a matter of months as opposed to the decade it will take at this rate.
I know I have sort of taken on the role of bashing the hormonal ideas but please remember, I want to find one that works as much as anyone, I just don't want us to waste our time.
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Dear Bigbutnottoo and Bigbadbison:
I am very interested in the subject of HGH injection. I have been using HGH injection as part of an antiaging program for about 4 years. Reading this thread is the first I have heard of the BG syndrome that you are talking about.
The procedure for the HGH injections says to put the shots into the belly fat around the middle. That is what I have been doing, daily, for a long, long time.
I have noticed that I have developed a hernia of my navel that bulges out some, and I have noticed that, as I have exercised over this time, I have grown some really thick ab muscles that look like I have a BG.
This has begun to trouble me some, and I would like to do something about it. What do you guys know about all this BG syndrome and how it occurs and why? Based on your comments, I am thinking of moving the shot locations to somewhere else. What would you suggest? It needs to be put into the fat tissue, so I have been instructed.
Please, comment and help. I am also going to take this up with my antiaging doc and I will let you know what he says about this. Thanks for your input. B
I am very interested in the subject of HGH injection. I have been using HGH injection as part of an antiaging program for about 4 years. Reading this thread is the first I have heard of the BG syndrome that you are talking about.
The procedure for the HGH injections says to put the shots into the belly fat around the middle. That is what I have been doing, daily, for a long, long time.
I have noticed that I have developed a hernia of my navel that bulges out some, and I have noticed that, as I have exercised over this time, I have grown some really thick ab muscles that look like I have a BG.
This has begun to trouble me some, and I would like to do something about it. What do you guys know about all this BG syndrome and how it occurs and why? Based on your comments, I am thinking of moving the shot locations to somewhere else. What would you suggest? It needs to be put into the fat tissue, so I have been instructed.
Please, comment and help. I am also going to take this up with my antiaging doc and I will let you know what he says about this. Thanks for your input. B
Injecting any kind of GH into your stomach area is dumbest thing you could do with the shit! IGF1 or HGH or any form of it, you WILL get a GUT! This was obvious in early bodybuilders who used the stuff in the worst way possible, leading to the demise of some of their careers. Anyhow... wow... nuff said.
Why would anyone use HGH these days, that's dumb.
It lasts like 12 hours and is therefore dangerous and counterproductive.
You want a strong but SHORT GH pulse, not a long lasting one.
Do your research and use peptides
It lasts like 12 hours and is therefore dangerous and counterproductive.
You want a strong but SHORT GH pulse, not a long lasting one.
Do your research and use peptides
Malagabecher;531369 said:
Gh half life is 2 hours not 12, so if you use it correctly you will not interfere with your bodys pulse. Certain peptides like GHRP-2 can release a lot of prolactin and progesterone. With those you have to be careful because it can cause gyno. There are pro's and cons to every drug including GH. Its up to the person which path they choose and most importantly to become self informed.
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Hey Supra. Your GH trials sounds interesting. If im not mistaken Ronielle has injected GH into his penis with other compounds and have made huge gains mainly in girth from hgh. I'd love to try gh myself for penile injection but for me GH is so damn expensive. I've read about you use with igf in the past for penile injections. Lots of folks over on professional muscle are talking about GH and igf having a synergic effect on smooth muscles including the smooth muscles of the penis.
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Hey Supra. Yeah I read the HCG article. Definitely looks interesting. When will you be implimenting this protocal?
My chempe routine is going good. I gotta tell ya. Im pretty stoked with my use of MGF and igf-des penile injections for cell proliferation and differentiation but this shit doesn't get any easier, dealing with the pain of pge1 induced erections. Anything over 10 to 12 mcgs and it's pain city for me for 2 to 3 hours until the erection subsides then you got post pge1 soreness to look forward to.
My chempe routine is going good. I gotta tell ya. Im pretty stoked with my use of MGF and igf-des penile injections for cell proliferation and differentiation but this shit doesn't get any easier, dealing with the pain of pge1 induced erections. Anything over 10 to 12 mcgs and it's pain city for me for 2 to 3 hours until the erection subsides then you got post pge1 soreness to look forward to.
My opinion is that you have to inject under foreskin of your penis. You should not inject in inside of you corpus cavernosum. You simply take the skin of your equipment by two fingers and make the injection under this skin without any damages for corpus cavernosum.
Hey Supra, when you did HGC before, were you injecting into the penis or other parts of the body?
Im injecting my mgf and igf-des straight into the penis. I do two injections a day. My first injection cocktail is right after my morning Penis Enlargement workout which consist of 100mcgs of tb-500, 40 to 60 mcgs of MGF and 50mcgs of sterile water. The 50 mcgs of sterile water is to help flush and distribute the chems through out the corpus cavernosum evenly for uniformed growth and stem cell proliferation. MGF has a short half life of 5 to 7 minutes so it docs to receptor sites quickly right when injected. The TB-500 is to help prevent scarring and imflamation. T-500 also causes angiogenisis in soft tissue and increases healing time as well as increases tissue elasticity. They use tb-500 it on race horses to help heal ligament and tendon injuries.
My second injection cocktail is in the evening or at night after my evening Penis Enlargement workout. My second injection cocktail of the day consist of 100 mcgs of tb-500, 40mcgs of igf-des, 15 to 20 mcgs of pge1 and 50 mcgs of sterile water. The igf-des has a half life of 15 to 20 minutes and it's purpose is to cause hyperplasia to the smooth muscles cells of the penis and cause cell differientation of the stem cells created by the morning MGF cocktail while the pge1 produces a painful 2 to 3 hour throbbing erection.
Hey Supra. If your interested check out this link stating my complete current routine. So far with chempe, all im gaining is girth. Not that Im complaining but I would like to reach my length goal of nbpel 10 inches but my dick is sore all the damn time to hang with heavy weights do to post PGE1 soreness. Since you have experiance with chempe yourself, let me know what you think of my routine.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...cal-Penis Enlargement-log&p=530724#post530724
Im injecting my mgf and igf-des straight into the penis. I do two injections a day. My first injection cocktail is right after my morning Penis Enlargement workout which consist of 100mcgs of tb-500, 40 to 60 mcgs of MGF and 50mcgs of sterile water. The 50 mcgs of sterile water is to help flush and distribute the chems through out the corpus cavernosum evenly for uniformed growth and stem cell proliferation. MGF has a short half life of 5 to 7 minutes so it docs to receptor sites quickly right when injected. The TB-500 is to help prevent scarring and imflamation. T-500 also causes angiogenisis in soft tissue and increases healing time as well as increases tissue elasticity. They use tb-500 it on race horses to help heal ligament and tendon injuries.
My second injection cocktail is in the evening or at night after my evening Penis Enlargement workout. My second injection cocktail of the day consist of 100 mcgs of tb-500, 40mcgs of igf-des, 15 to 20 mcgs of pge1 and 50 mcgs of sterile water. The igf-des has a half life of 15 to 20 minutes and it's purpose is to cause hyperplasia to the smooth muscles cells of the penis and cause cell differientation of the stem cells created by the morning MGF cocktail while the pge1 produces a painful 2 to 3 hour throbbing erection.
Hey Supra. If your interested check out this link stating my complete current routine. So far with chempe, all im gaining is girth. Not that Im complaining but I would like to reach my length goal of nbpel 10 inches but my dick is sore all the damn time to hang with heavy weights do to post PGE1 soreness. Since you have experiance with chempe yourself, let me know what you think of my routine.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...cal-Penis Enlargement-log&p=530724#post530724
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kingsnake;531666 said:
No I never injected HCG into the penis, I did inject IGF-1 LR3 before. Where and how do you have the time and resources to do all this! Its got me scratching my head. I used tobe the Chem king and I guess you are now
Right now I am just using Serostim GH and Peptides Mod-GFR-1 and Ipamorlen for bodybuilding/healing/anti aging purposes.
Hey Supra. As far as time goes. I force the time in. I get up and do my morning Penis Enlargement workout then first injection cocktail before going to work. After work I go straight home and do my second Penis Enlargement workout then second injection cocktail leading into the evening to night time.
For resources I get my pge1, igf-des, tb-500, sterile water and acetic acid from Ergopep.com. Dht cream is from allsaints.com. You'll find that at ergopep there pge1 and peptides aren't that expensive.
DMSO I get that from supplement warehouse.com. It's pretty cheap stuff. With Powdered Paba, I get that from purebulk.com.
When you injected igf lr3 did you experiance any growth bro?
For resources I get my pge1, igf-des, tb-500, sterile water and acetic acid from Ergopep.com. Dht cream is from allsaints.com. You'll find that at ergopep there pge1 and peptides aren't that expensive.
DMSO I get that from supplement warehouse.com. It's pretty cheap stuff. With Powdered Paba, I get that from purebulk.com.
When you injected igf lr3 did you experiance any growth bro?
Hey Supra. That's crazy bro. Im wondering if the igf you had wasn't leget since you have to becareful from companies selling fake peptides. With me I've been gaining girth but I don't know if it's the igf and the mgf that's doing it since Im throwing so much at my penis from all angles with my Penis Enlargement routine and the chemical erection workouts.
Hey Supra. No I only inject directley into the corpus cavernosum. I have however been interested in injecting mgf, igf-des and tb-500 into the corpus spongiosum or the glans to encourage spongiosum and glans growth. I don't know if you ever injected pge1 for a chemical erection put when you inject pge1 into the corpus cavenosum it's only the corpus cavenosum that becomes erect. If you're non stimulated or non aroused, the glans and the corpus spongiosum remain soft with normal blood circulation which is the reason why a chemical erection can be safely maintained for hours. I would like to grow my glans more as well as the spongisoum which is the underside of the penis. Im currently researching on if it's safe to inject into the spongisoum or the glans. Now with the spongisoum one would have to becareful not to inject into the urethera since the spongisoum houses it. If it's impossible to inject the spongisoum then the glans would be the next best thing since the spongisoum and the glans are directly connected and share the same blood pathway.
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Supra;533509 said:
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Where are those threads on hcg? I have been gone for a long long time, and am enjoying reading all the new posts. Hello everyone, nice to be back. GS
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