As agreed with DLD I moved this here, this is a Alt meathod of Penis Enlargement and this is my forum so I moved it. Great results to come guys!!
 
Supra said:
Do Not Use Bac Water With Igf!!!! Only Benzyl Alcohol! I cant say it enough!

Bac water will ruin your IGF

Supra, it's true you don't add Bac water in the vial of IGF, that will ruin the entire batch but when you draw the IGF first and then draw in some Bac water for each individual shot, there's not enough time for the water to destroy the IGF because it will disperse in the body long before that happens. I don't know how you're injecting the pure BA in any part of your body and not getting large welts ending up in deep scaring at the points of injection ?:( Pure BA kills tissue. I'm not sure if you got your info off of MuscleChem or not but if you check around with a few vets on some of the other boards who have used IGF they'll tell you the same thing I'm saying. I have talked to bros who first tried doing the pure BA injections and one guy described it as holes being burned through his skin. These same guys then switched over to diluting each shot with water and it got rid of the effects of the BA eating the tissue away but didn't decrease the effectiveness of the IGF's cell production.
 
I am a MOD at Muscle Chemistry and other BB forums. Everyone says dont use BC, and I get no problem at all with BA whatsoever, even in my penis.
 
Supra said:
I am a MOD at Muscle Chemistry and other BB forums. Everyone says dont use BC, and I get no problem at all with BA whatsoever, even in my penis.

Maybe some bros have an allergic reaction to the BA and some don't . You must be one of the lucky ones. I hope it works really good for you. Are you doing a 30 day on / 30 day off schedule? You must be trying to beat DLD to the record 13.6 NBP. :D
 
You'll have to take some pics of yourself after you've seen some gains. Or you could really freak us out and make a video of yourself sticking that needle in your dick.
 
Mr.Winkle said:
You'll have to take some pics of yourself after you've seen some gains. Or you could really freak us out and make a video of yourself sticking that needle in your dick.

The problem here is there is no real scientific control as is the case with most of us here. Supra could get good gains simply by the fact he spends more time and more effort and works out with a little more knowledge on Penis Enlargement than most people do. To really know whether or not IGF has any significant impact on permanent penis growth when combines with Penis Enlargement would require more people to take the plunge, in particular people who are hard gainers.

I mean if he starts gaining an inch a month as a Penis Enlargement veteran then the IGF treatments probably show instant merit, but it is really hard to say unless we have more subjects.

For example, I am starting a new aggressive routine Sunday and am sticking to it for 3 months, but since I have added some collagen/elastin building supplements just recently to my daily diet, I won't really know if any significant gains I got were from the collagen/elastin building supplement theory of mine (ironically my research has found that a few penis pills contain collagen building supplements in them), or the new routine, or a combo of both. I guess you can say the same thing about anyone who adds multiple variables into any experiment.

Supra does seem to have some positive "first hand experience" rofl with this site specific Insulin Growth Factor experimentation, so I guess we will have to wait and see what happens. Most importantly, we will have to wait and see if he has any adverse side effects from his treatments.
 
Supra, "NeedMoreSize" has a point... you can mix the BW into each individual shot to make it a little "easier" on the tissue.... of course when I took my IGF-1LR3 and Test Cyp/fina cycle's, I never had a problem with using just the BA... but with something as prescious as your cock...you might want to take this extra "precaution" your next couple of cycle's.
 
I am seriously considering this igf business. I am just awaiting Supra's results. I have done AS cycles before and am considering this to be the next step in both my bodybuilding and pe. I only wish i had heard of hgh/igf when i was still growing. Then i might be a bit taller.
 
Kind of Ironic but you would think that something would have done been developed for the penis to make it grow naturally like it does when we are growing. If they really did the research it seems like they would have found the key genes that are responsible for penis growth and also the hormones to go along with these genes. If you think about it then the only thing we would have to do would be kegels for good erections as our penis's would be 12 inch long or more from all the hormone manipulation and such. I am a bodybuilder and with all the supplements available for building muscle it seems like some hormones could encourage penis size also. What im getting at is i praise Supra for going this route because i think this is where our secret lies guys. We need some drugs to really make the penis enlarge and i hope Supra has found them. More than just these herbal pills that give better hard on's but something that actually causes cell division or hypertrophy. I dont know if any of you have heard of that myostatin gene that they removed from the mice that made them grow enormous muscles but it seems like something like this would be around the corner for penis growth. Maybe there is something like that in the penis that keeps it from growing any larger. If blocked or removed then it would cause unlimited growth.
 
A couple of quick comments...

1) NeedMoreSize is the only guy on this thread that has a fvcking clue.

2) The studies Supra posted used IGF-I, I believe Supra is using LR3 IGF-I. The two are not even close to each other in MANY aspects.

3) Shooting LR3 in your dick will have no more effect than shooting it in your gut, bi's, tri's, etc...(systemic uptake...learn it, love it, live it...)

4) Not using Bac Water is a fantastic way to destroy all the cells that the BA comes into contact with.

I would advise all to not follow 99% of the information provided in this thread.
 
WideAwake said:
A couple of quick comments...

1) NeedMoreSize is the only guy on this thread that has a fvcking clue.

2) The studies Supra posted used IGF-I, I believe Supra is using LR3 IGF-I. The two are not even close to each other in MANY aspects.

3) Shooting LR3 in your dick will have no more effect than shooting it in your gut, bi's, tri's, etc...(systemic uptake...learn it, love it, live it...)

4) Not using Bac Water is a fantastic way to destroy all the cells that the BA comes into contact with.

I would advise all to not follow 99% of the information provided in this thread.


What would you suggest?
 
magnumforce said:
Supra, have you thought about injecting IGF in your balls? The guy at the BB forum says IGF makes the balls growing.


Dear god...I hope no one is actually injecting ANYTHING into thier testicles.

Post a link to this if this is indeed true.
 
Thanks mag,

Ok...

1st - No where do they actual mention injecting INTO your testicles. They simply state that IGF injects will help to reverse testicular atrophy.

So...nobody start jamming 1/2" needles in their nuts...

2nd - This entire quote is under "What users report"

Well...I'll now report that IGF gives me X-Ray vision! It's amazing!!!

Seriously though, I kind of doubt IGF will help with restoring HPTA axis and testicular atrophy. I'm not 100% certain that it won't help, but I have yet to run across any research that would indicate it helps.

On the plus side, I know that it will not hurt your testicular function, as it's method of action is unlike any kind of steriod. So you can use IGF without fear of shutting down your natural testicular function.
 
So bac water is a better way to shoot this then BA? I was more interested in trying this as a bodybuilding supplement rather than a penis injection from the good things ive heard about it. Ive heard it can cause sleepiness though.
 
magnumforce said:
wideawake, here's the link:
"Reverses testicular atrophy

Testicles if shrunken will return to "full swing" so to speak even in the middle of a cycle. If not shrunken they will not shrink during the cycle. This may explain partially why gains are kept after the cycle."

http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=15971

I never knew this, were are you supposed inject it for this to happen? Also, if it reverses testicle atrophe, then will it make my testicles bigger?
 
Supra, you truly are the Penis Enlargement EINSTEIN ! If NASA had people like you with that kind of perseverance, tanacity and a will to acomplish anything no matter what they would have colonised PLUTO by now.....unbelievable. You are the next frontier.......

It reminds me of JFK's quote, "we do these thing not because they are easy but because they are hard"........
 
sizequest said:
It reminds me of JFK's quote, "we do these thing not because they are easy but because they are hard"........

Literally:)
 
IGF has the ability to grow all kind of tissues. There're many receptors in the balls, they should grow. Maybe injecting the sack would be the way to go, rather than directly injecting the balls. Ask Cadaver!
 
Supra said:
Im just gonna inject in my penis, that should be good enough, I will ask him though, thanks


You obviously haven't read anything I've written, nor any of the links I posted. :s

Best of luck.
 
I have man, I have read everything, it is great stuff, but I am not going to inject this stuff in my balls
 
I think the penis is better, like Wudeawake said, IGF goes throught your whole body, I do not think that thise doctors wer injecting it into the sack
 
LR3 will act no differently injected into your legs, arms, ass, or dick.

It's method of action is systemic uptake and it is not localized in tissue.

You can inject in your quad and still have the same effect as injecting in your dick, without the risk of cell damage from the BA (well, cell damage in your leg is a hell of a lot less to worry about anyway....)
 
Yes i got them but i hardly check my PM's that much. I usually dont stay on AIM that long and just log back off. Ill talk next time i see you on....ok? I got alot of school work to do today.

later,
Evan
 
I'm no expert, on Penis Enlargement or this injection stuff, but do you clamp after injecting so it stays in the penis longer?
 
IGF-1LR3 stays in your system for 16 hours, a clamp will only limit hte blood flow that I need to my penis
 
Supra, I was lurking over on Penis Enlargementforum and saw that you said you gained .5in from injecting. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any gains claim here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. Can you provide an update?
 
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