Did tb-500 cause my great gains
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Awesome, keep is posted.
I am going to run 6 months of tb-500 and igf-lr3 and post my results afterwards. Ive used igf before with minimal results, but i think i used a bunk source.
Well I did another shot today. I will measure next week because that will be the one month mark to see if any gains have occurred. I kinda feel over trained lately and im gonna make some adjustments to my routine. Next week after I measure I'm gonna start a thread in the routines section detailing my routine which will be lengthy and detailed. I have some big plans for this year and I wanna make sure I hit my goals. I will be updating my routine thread daily once I start it next week
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Jdcsd;525989 said:
Thanks for the input, I'm currently on my second week of TB500 injected into the upper fat pad area and hanging five lbs my first week and now hanging eight lbs for forty minutes to an hour a day with about an hour in the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] when time permits. A pretty laid back routine but now with the 8 lbs I'm feeling a nice deep lig stretch with some soreness.
When i re-ordered more igf-1 DES, I ordered 40 mgmyself of tb-500 as well. Im going to experiment with 2mg sub-q injections into the CC. once my order arrives i will start a log in this forum
I agree, I cant see the point to risk it. I do worry about infection from previous experience and we do not want that area infected!Jdcsd;526575 said:
Im gonna order and run a cycle of 2mg week for 6 weeks then 2mg a month for 5 months. Would this be effective or should I increase the dosage?
agent7x6;526581 said:
I think what we have coming will really blow the minds of everyone concerned. A lot of work and effort has been put forth to make this supplement a reality. I know, wholeheartedly, it will change the entire Penis Enlargement game and all the other Penis Enlargement companies will be kicking themselves for not doing it first
I am very proud of what is about to come to the table.doublelongdaddy;526823 said:I think what we have coming will really blow the minds of everyone concerned. A lot of work and effort has been put forth to make this supplement a reality. I know, wholeheartedly, it will change the entire Penis Enlargement game and all the other Penis Enlargement companies will be kicking themselves for not doing it first
What's the ETA and what's the pill's approach?
neognostic;526829 said:
I am getting information as I type this, we are closing in on the final formula and JAZ, my business partner, will be posting a thread in the next couple days with much better information. We have been relatively quiet on this for the reason that the formula(s) is still getting proper legal backup. He said he should be ready very soon.
I can say I am very excited about this on a many personal levels and can't wait until we are ready to announce. We have many changes about to happen but we want to drop everything at once so this is taking more time. I have 2 guys working full time on this, I will be open as soon as I can.
I'm willing to inject my cock. Snake's protocol makes sense to me.
Inject
Slap on the cockring
Spread the wealth
Arouse to at least semi-erect
Remove the cockring X mins later
But, what I would like to see is a VIDEO of Snake injecting his dick so I can see the site, and exactly how he does it.
That would really be helpful...
PS Keep in mind, this would be the FIRST element of my nascent extension program.
Before Penis Enlargement...before [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]...before anything.
I want to see if just site specific chemical solutions will create results.
All that other stuff can be added in time...
Inject
Slap on the cockring
Spread the wealth
Arouse to at least semi-erect
Remove the cockring X mins later
But, what I would like to see is a VIDEO of Snake injecting his dick so I can see the site, and exactly how he does it.
That would really be helpful...
PS Keep in mind, this would be the FIRST element of my nascent extension program.
Before Penis Enlargement...before [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]...before anything.
I want to see if just site specific chemical solutions will create results.
All that other stuff can be added in time...
John_117;528868 said:
I don't inject it in my dick. Kingsnake always does I think. I'm not sure about dosage when doing that. Others I've seen that do dick shots do it daily or eod so I would think they use less. I personally donthink it helps to inject it in your dick cause you can't trap it there like you can igf cause it's in your system way longer so it's just gonna go systematic after you aren't clamped or ringed off.
Jdcsd;529409 said:
In a oral dosage the levels would need to be a bit higher than when used as a topical (with other ingredients to increase the effect.) The ETA is April but the samples have all been created and currently being used by a select few men and women (with one of the supplements which is unisex).
A magic pill that makes your dick grow longer would definitely be a hit!
Sweet! Go for it!
I'll be waiting...
I'll be waiting...
Let it be known that on the week of St Valentine's Day in the year of our Lord 2013 I dropped my first WHOLE One Dollar at the Dollar Store for a nice [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Ace Bandage[/words] aka [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Uncle Jim[/words]'s Wrap in my first step towards pro-active Penis Enlargementxt.
Significant because I'm notoriously deliberate in new endeavors like this.
Still getting the hang of it, but so far I think this was the right first step. Costs next to nothing, and can be worn pretty much all the time - minus showers.
Still working out the kinks, but already my first bonus...
Around the house I wear these shorts that are made of this nylon material that really shows off every little indentation. I already have a very thick cock (am here for length) so when I wrap the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] around my slightly aroused cock, it holds that somewhat engorged head in place and the outline is very visible through the shorts. It looks like a MONSTER. baha
Should be good for the neighborhood girls.
Significant because I'm notoriously deliberate in new endeavors like this.
Still getting the hang of it, but so far I think this was the right first step. Costs next to nothing, and can be worn pretty much all the time - minus showers.
Still working out the kinks, but already my first bonus...
Around the house I wear these shorts that are made of this nylon material that really shows off every little indentation. I already have a very thick cock (am here for length) so when I wrap the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] around my slightly aroused cock, it holds that somewhat engorged head in place and the outline is very visible through the shorts. It looks like a MONSTER. baha
Should be good for the neighborhood girls.
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Is it possible to shoot TB-500 directly into the ligs? I know that the nerves and a major blood vessel lie close to the ligs so it could be dangerous. Maybe just injecting it into the fat pad would be enough? I'm thinking that injecting it into the CC would not effect the lig as the blood flow would take it out of the penis before it could diffuse through to the ligs. As there is little blood flow in fat, an injection in that area is more likely to diffuse through to the ligs.
doublelongdaddy;532760 said:
Yeah I'd be up for it if I knew it was safe but I'd be worried I hit the artery (forget it's name) that lies along the top of the penis or the bundle of nerves which could cause desensitization. I don't know if a topical would be able to draw all of the TB4 in as it is quite a big molecule although not as big as hgh (it consists of 44 amino acids). Injecting it directly into the lig would be the best way to ensure you are getting as high a dosage as possible where you want it. The alternative would be to inject into the fat pad and hope that some would diffuse through or inject sub q along the top side of the shaft at the base.
I'm saving up some money now and I'm not sure what to get. I may get a vac hanger or get some chemicals like Igf-DES and TB4.
Hi DLD:
I'm a long time member but haven't posted in a long time. Just starting to get back into hanging & stretching.
I know you're suppose to be coming out with a new pill, but are you also going to release a cream or topical with TB-500? I would definitely be interested in trying a topical. If so, is the ETA in April? Thanks.
Regards,
Target9
I'm a long time member but haven't posted in a long time. Just starting to get back into hanging & stretching.
I know you're suppose to be coming out with a new pill, but are you also going to release a cream or topical with TB-500? I would definitely be interested in trying a topical. If so, is the ETA in April? Thanks.
Regards,
Target9
Ok maybe TB4 can penetrate through the skin using a strong enough penetrator. According to this article :http://www.beyotime.com/reference/bradford-ref14.pdf
TB4 is only 5 kDa and I'm pretty sure that DMSO can bring larger molecules that 5 kDa through the skin.
Dld, what kind of solvent are you using in your topical?
TB4 is only 5 kDa and I'm pretty sure that DMSO can bring larger molecules that 5 kDa through the skin.
Dld, what kind of solvent are you using in your topical?
An alternative to injecting into the lig would be injecting into the tunica - not all the way through to the CC. In injecting PGE1 as a beginner (you can check my log for this) I wasn't getting the needle all the way through. When I went to push the plunger of the syringe down, I would be pushing against pressure and it would take a while for it to go down. Not only that but it was painful.
It's pretty easy to inject the tunica only and not go all the way through. By injecting here you would increase the elasticity of the collagen as well as increasing cell proliferation (I think TB4 increases stem cell proliferation). For good measure you could also inject some into the CC along with PGE1. Hopefully I'll have the money gathered up soon so that I can order some TB4.
I will be injecting it into the fat pad, the tunica, cc and also onto my bald head! I've read that it can create new hair growth in men who have lost the hair - not just thickening vellus hair, but actually growing new hair follicles (I think through it's action on stem cells as well as increasing blood flow)
It's pretty easy to inject the tunica only and not go all the way through. By injecting here you would increase the elasticity of the collagen as well as increasing cell proliferation (I think TB4 increases stem cell proliferation). For good measure you could also inject some into the CC along with PGE1. Hopefully I'll have the money gathered up soon so that I can order some TB4.
I will be injecting it into the fat pad, the tunica, cc and also onto my bald head! I've read that it can create new hair growth in men who have lost the hair - not just thickening vellus hair, but actually growing new hair follicles (I think through it's action on stem cells as well as increasing blood flow)
Target9;532822 said:
April 1 was the ETA but I got news that one of the partners has a week layover in Europe so my trip is pushed back a week. It will be in April but not the first. The ingredients in the topical, as would expect, are very secret but I think you will want to definitely want to be ready for it, all 4 supplements are incredible.
Hey bigdex. With injecting into the just the tunica, Im assuming that one would need to find a way for the peptide to spread through out the whole tunica that surrounds the CCs and the CS. I don't think just one injection would do this. Im thinking multiple injections around different points of the penis would need to be done but penetrating into the skin only so TB-500 can work it's magic on the entire tunica starting from outer layer.
Here's a link talking all about TB-500.
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/r...super-thread-log-what-where-when-why-how.html
Im already injecting 200 mcgs of tb-500 a day into the CCs but I may increase up to 400 to 600 a day since this peptide enduces increased healing time, anti scarring, increases angiogenisis and cell proliferation, not to mention increases tissue elasticity at the cellular level.
TB-500 may even be better then IGF AND MGF since TB-500 initiates angiogenisis which is the growth of new blood vessels and endothelial cells in skeletal muscle, smooth muscle and tendons and ligaments. The penis is primarily composed of endothelial cells which then makes up smooth muscle and spongy erectile tissue. Create more endothelial cells and you create more tissue mass thus growing a larger penis.
Im not sure if TB-500 can be taken orally because the peptide is extremely sensitive and can be destroyed with ease. Even light can destroy the peptide which is why it's supposed to be stored in a dark cold place at 30 to 38 degrees if you want it to last for 8 days. Even when reconstiuting the peptide for injection it can be destroyed just by spraying the sterile water directly on it or if the peptide is has been shook around. The digestive system from what I've studied would destroy the peptide upon contact.
After reconstituting TB-500 it's so sensitive that it will only stay good for 8 days in the refridgerator. It has to be preloaded in syringes and stored in the freezer until you're ready to use that particular dosage. I load up 50 syringes of TB-500 at 100 mcgs each and keep all of them in the freezer so they will last for months and not just 8 days if stored in the fridge. As for a topical I was thinking about DMSO but Im not sure if TB-500 is to large of a molecule to be carried through the skin with DMSO. I know with DMSO that IGF, MGF, and VEGF cannot be carried through the skin since there molecular structure is way to big. Im hoping TB-500 isn't the same case.
If DMSO can carry TB-500 through the skin then we may have something here. If not then a superior carrier has to be found that can carry larger molecules like TB-500 and other peptides through the skin. If we can find a superior solvent that's capable of carrying Penis EnlargementPTIDES through the skin deep into tissues then we wouldn't have any need for injections anymore which would be great because injections suck. I have to get my self siked up each time before injecting my unit and some injections are painful then others.
Here's a link talking all about TB-500.
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/r...super-thread-log-what-where-when-why-how.html
Im already injecting 200 mcgs of tb-500 a day into the CCs but I may increase up to 400 to 600 a day since this peptide enduces increased healing time, anti scarring, increases angiogenisis and cell proliferation, not to mention increases tissue elasticity at the cellular level.
TB-500 may even be better then IGF AND MGF since TB-500 initiates angiogenisis which is the growth of new blood vessels and endothelial cells in skeletal muscle, smooth muscle and tendons and ligaments. The penis is primarily composed of endothelial cells which then makes up smooth muscle and spongy erectile tissue. Create more endothelial cells and you create more tissue mass thus growing a larger penis.
Im not sure if TB-500 can be taken orally because the peptide is extremely sensitive and can be destroyed with ease. Even light can destroy the peptide which is why it's supposed to be stored in a dark cold place at 30 to 38 degrees if you want it to last for 8 days. Even when reconstiuting the peptide for injection it can be destroyed just by spraying the sterile water directly on it or if the peptide is has been shook around. The digestive system from what I've studied would destroy the peptide upon contact.
After reconstituting TB-500 it's so sensitive that it will only stay good for 8 days in the refridgerator. It has to be preloaded in syringes and stored in the freezer until you're ready to use that particular dosage. I load up 50 syringes of TB-500 at 100 mcgs each and keep all of them in the freezer so they will last for months and not just 8 days if stored in the fridge. As for a topical I was thinking about DMSO but Im not sure if TB-500 is to large of a molecule to be carried through the skin with DMSO. I know with DMSO that IGF, MGF, and VEGF cannot be carried through the skin since there molecular structure is way to big. Im hoping TB-500 isn't the same case.
If DMSO can carry TB-500 through the skin then we may have something here. If not then a superior carrier has to be found that can carry larger molecules like TB-500 and other peptides through the skin. If we can find a superior solvent that's capable of carrying Penis EnlargementPTIDES through the skin deep into tissues then we wouldn't have any need for injections anymore which would be great because injections suck. I have to get my self siked up each time before injecting my unit and some injections are painful then others.
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Yeah kingsnake thats what i was thinking too, multiple injections all over the penis or concentrating on one area - say the base of the penis/ the middle/ the top near the glans/ or the glans itself . Alternative sub q injections could b given hoping that the tb4 diffuses down into the Tunica although this would be easier i wouldnt think it would be as effective.
Do you have to buy the solvent with the tb4 from ergopep? Or do they send both?
Do you have to buy the solvent with the tb4 from ergopep? Or do they send both?
Sorry for the delay but the time away has been working on these projects