Hey guys haven't been around for a few weeks. Been slacking on pe, been into bodybuilding again more. But I have just started back up and am going with hanging for the first time this week. Still takin tb500 AndI'm thinking its effects will be even more aparent with my new routine of hanging and xsleeve all day long. Haven't measured in a while but I have only been doing enough to maintain for the last month or so. I'm back at it harder then ever now as of 4/2
Did tb-500 cause my great gains
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DLD, tb-500 will not be effective orally, regardless of dose. Peptides such as this are degraded rapidly and easily in the GI tract via abundant peptidases. Your GI tract is made to degrade proteins and peptides since we are carnivores, its part of our evolutionary design. As far as transdermal delivery, tb-500 as it is sold will not be effective. It is a small enough molecule but that is not the obstacle in this case. To be viable for transdermal delivery, a drug must be somewhat lipophilic to penetrate membranes but also have some aqueous solubility. Tb-500 is too water soluble (it will not partition out of the aqueous layer between cells of the stratum corneum if you could somehow get it there) and it is not lipophilic so it will not even penetrate the top layer. There are almost no peptide drugs that are delivered any other way than injection for these reasons. That being said, some peptides have been developed/altered to allow other methods of delivery, but these are few and far between and require chemical modification that will enhance delivery/bioavailability without affecting efficacy. And none have been successfully delivered orally, to my knowledge. The closest thing would be buccal delivery of peptides, which has been done but it still requires chemical modification. Sorry for all the science but this is my area of expertise!
dickfordays:
You're spot on with your explanation.
However, I would like to add that one simple and painless option "might" be micro-needling. There are quite a few studies that show micro-needling can deliver some hydrophilic substances transdermally. One study I just read showed that insulin delivered by micro-needles intradermally had greater absorption and faster uptake than when administered subcutaneously via injection.
For those of you unfamiliar with micro-needling, think "dermaroller." You can buy these micro-needle rollers for as little as $15.00. Since the top layer of skin (stratum corneum) is the main obstacle, a roller with needles between .2-.5 mm could easily penetrate this layer and would be completely painless (However, I believe the micro needles used in the insulin study were 1.0 mm). While I'm not completely certain this would work, there are some studies that definitely support this. I was thinking about possibly trying this with TB-500.
Dickfordays, what do you think? Could this work?
You're spot on with your explanation.
However, I would like to add that one simple and painless option "might" be micro-needling. There are quite a few studies that show micro-needling can deliver some hydrophilic substances transdermally. One study I just read showed that insulin delivered by micro-needles intradermally had greater absorption and faster uptake than when administered subcutaneously via injection.
For those of you unfamiliar with micro-needling, think "dermaroller." You can buy these micro-needle rollers for as little as $15.00. Since the top layer of skin (stratum corneum) is the main obstacle, a roller with needles between .2-.5 mm could easily penetrate this layer and would be completely painless (However, I believe the micro needles used in the insulin study were 1.0 mm). While I'm not completely certain this would work, there are some studies that definitely support this. I was thinking about possibly trying this with TB-500.
Dickfordays, what do you think? Could this work?
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Target, I initially had the same thought about microneedle delivery. There is a microneedle delivery insulin approved for use in Europe somewhere, I believe. But the problem is as follows: microneedle delivery (if feasible) will achieve systemic delivery the same as an injection, it's basically a pain free alternative, but for our purposes, do we need the TB-500 to work systemically or locally? The microneedles deliver the drug to the vascular epidermis where the drug is "picked up" in the blood, so it's essentially the same as injecting it subcutaneously in the abdomen or anywhere else, the end result is the same, systemic delivery, not necessarily local delivery. Like the insulin you read about, it would not work to lower blood sugar if the delivery did not achieve systemic circulation. The reason the insulin had faster uptake transdermally than subcutaneously is because the adipose tissue is not very vascular compared to the epidermis, so transdermal delivery reaches systemic circulation faster that subcutaneous delivery. The question is, does TB-500 in systemic circulation serve our purposes for Penis Enlargement? I don't know enough about TB-500 to guess about this. I know Snake injects into the CC and clamps off in the hopes that he will maximize exposure to the receptors locally before going systemic, but there is a whole lot involved in drug/receptor binding (I'll spare everyone the details) that needs to be taken into consideration for his theory to be sound, and I'm not saying that is isn't, only that I don't know. Snake, I'm not questioning your work, you're a pioneer and we need more like you! I'll try to learn more about TB-500 to see if I can shed some light on how it might be best implemented for Penis Enlargement purposes. In the meantime, keep up the innovative thinking Target, it's inspirational!
dickfordays:
Thanks for your input - truly appreciate it.
"Jdcsd" gained his inch by injecting SC into the abs (with a very minimal P.E. routine). If his gains did in fact come from TB-500, then this is great news. I know he doesn't believe that it's necessary to inject directly into the penis. I believe he just restarted his P.E. routine along with the TB-500. I'll be really curious to see what kind of gains he makes this time around. Jdcsd, if you're reading this, please keep us updated.
DFD, please keep us updated and share any theories you may have. If Jdcsd's results look promising this time around, then I will start a TB-500/micro-needling routine in the near future.
Regards,
T9
Thanks for your input - truly appreciate it.
"Jdcsd" gained his inch by injecting SC into the abs (with a very minimal P.E. routine). If his gains did in fact come from TB-500, then this is great news. I know he doesn't believe that it's necessary to inject directly into the penis. I believe he just restarted his P.E. routine along with the TB-500. I'll be really curious to see what kind of gains he makes this time around. Jdcsd, if you're reading this, please keep us updated.
DFD, please keep us updated and share any theories you may have. If Jdcsd's results look promising this time around, then I will start a TB-500/micro-needling routine in the near future.
Regards,
T9
I originally took it because I was having extreme pain in my knees when doing squats. I also happened to start using [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] at the same time. So looking back at how much I gained from just a couple hours a day of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] I was guessing that maybe the tb500 helped with the connective tissue in the penis as well as help my knees. I've just started hanging now so I'm hoping that the tb500 will help with this. But it's only been a week so far.
I'd be willing to bet that the TB-500 had a lot to do with your gains. I think it would difficult, if not impossible, to gain an inch in 6 months from just wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] three hours a day.
Since you're just starting back on the TB-500, what is your dosing routine? 2 mg. per week for 5-6 weeks and then one maintenance dose every month? How large of a maintenance dose will you take and how long (months) will you keep it up?
Best of luck on your gains. Please keep us posted.
Regards,
T9
Since you're just starting back on the TB-500, what is your dosing routine? 2 mg. per week for 5-6 weeks and then one maintenance dose every month? How large of a maintenance dose will you take and how long (months) will you keep it up?
Best of luck on your gains. Please keep us posted.
Regards,
T9
Jdcsd;542544 said:
Target9;542802 said:
I took 2mg a week for 6'weeks then 2mg a month when is started [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]. I took a couple months off then reloaded again and have done 5mg a month for the last 3 months. Probably keep on it a while its easy once a month jab
Jdcsd;544152 said:
Thank you very much.
I have it sitting in front of me as I write this. Could you tell me how much of each you put in each syringe? Having a bit of trouble accurately finding how much TB and how much sterile water to put in each syringe for the beginning and progressive doses.
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You inject it daily weekly for 4 weeks. Then you start injecting it monthly. I believe each injection is 2ml of tb-4.doublelongdaddy;544428 said:
Yeah, my bad, I meant weekly.
Any updates??
vkn1;560394 said:
It's a healing peptide it won't deform the penis guys use it because it helps them heal faster all you need for chem Penis Enlargement (the injection part) is pge-1 tb4 is a good addition but you have to pre load it and freeze it due to its short life once reconstituted.
Been on hgh for 3 months. No tb500 in a while. Just getting back into [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] and my stretch is as far as ever at 8.25 in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]. I hope my increased igf level of 500 will help somewhat. Looking into injecting igf des for cock injections
Jdcsd;573575 said:
Yeh LR3 has has way too long half life, possible prostate problems when it goes systemic. If anything works it would be DES. That chem Penis Enlargement thread is great he uses TB 500, IGF and PGE 1 and gains like .75 perm girth in like 20 weeks.. Seriously though so much good info on that log its ridiculous, I read the whole log front to back over a week and copied some of the info to text documents, you wont be dissapointed its worth it for the chem pe route
Newbie here... Just thought I'd get your opinions on this. What about using TB500 post Priapus Shot. Just from what I was reading, it seemed there could be some potential here for kind of a super priapus shot?
I've read tb-500 helps with inflammation and scar tissue reduction it also makes the tissues more flexabile.So that's maybe why the penis is easier to stretch.
It's great for connective tissue. I think combining tb500 with hanging would provide the best results as it would help the ligaments stretch more than normal. I'm going to start on it again and do some hanging. I don't have time to do 10hrs a week of hanging but I think the tb500 will alow you to get more out of doing less than normal. Just like how I gained an inch off just using gs for a couple hours a day when on it8incyclops;577490 said:
It's systematic so it would go everywhere
Jdcsd;599038 said:
well as you know if you do TB500 and still hang for that 10 hrs will likely lead to more gains than doing less time
Of course. I just can't find that much time alone to do hanging. I have a wife and 2 young boys so it's difficult to get the privacy needed to hang that much. I will think I will still get the gains I want. I'll do 40 min in the morning then put on my autoxsleeeve with 1lb weight and wear that for 8 hours at work then when I get home I'll do [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] stretches followed by pumping/ssj setsyouknowme123321;599109 said:
Jdcsd;599256 said:
does your wife know about PE?
I'm going to start this peptide soon, I'll post here if I get any crazy gains
I'm hoping it helps my elbows. I find peptides hit or miss so hopefully this works (ghrp6 is my shit) and I already take gh like it's candy, so I'm not expecting any miracles...
Do you know what dose you're going to start with? I read they use it with race horses so it must be strong
Do you know what dose you're going to start with? I read they use it with race horses so it must be strong
I started taking tb500 for my extreme knee pain. It worked wonders for that, miracle cure really. I'm gonna take 2mg a week for 6 weeks then either 2 or 5mg once a month. I'm gonna hop back on hgh in a couple weeks when I start cruising. Just 2iu ed to help a little along with 200mg cyp a week. I like purchasepeptides right now for peptide company, it's hard to find good ones you can trust
Cool, that's where I'm ordering from too 
I will try 2 mg a week, thanks
I will try 2 mg a week, thanks
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acromegaly;603519 said:
From what I've been reading on TB-500, I'll give it a shot (yuk yuk).
At the very least, it should assist the healing and growing process from my extreme ULI's and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] use.
I suspect that my use of trimix also assisted in my growth spurts.
BJ
I wanted to ask if you inject before, during or after your weekly Pe routine? Or does it matter? Does anyone have any updates on gains and/or successful usage? Thank you for this thread, this is truly powerful informtion, can't wait to start my TB500.
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