Ive been wondering about this lately. I never injected it in my dick like kingsnake. Just sub q in my abs for bodybuilding/joint healing purposes. But I started it right as I started pe and I made pretty great gains considering my routine. All I did was wear [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] about 3 hrs a day and I gained an inch in length in 6 months. No other pe at all, no basic stretches even. As I later found [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] and started my pe research it seemed to me that tb-500 could possibly assist in pe due to increased flexibility in ligaments and connective tissue. Anyways my gains have kind of haulted at the same time I stopped tb so I think I'm gonna jump back on it. Guess it can't hurt plus it definitely helped my knee pain I was having before I took it
 
you should stay off for a month or so and then start again so you can have something to compare to.. then you can have something to kind of compare it to and help us that havent tried it.
 
I haven't taken it for 3 months now. My gains have slowed down a lot but maybe cause I progressed so well in the beginning. Well my knees are starting to hurt again anyway so I think I'll start back up now. I think I have one or 2 doses left so I'll start now and order more. I'll report if I start seeing gains come fast again. I now have a much more complete routine so they should
 
Well it provided pain relief in joints and connective tissue. It is supposed to loosen up your ligaments and provide greater flex ability in them. So I was thinking that if you are doin pe mainly lig stretches the tb 500 should in theory allow your ligs to stretch farther. Some people are now shooting it in their dicks. I don't think that helps cause it stays your system a long time. I did sub q in the abs like you would do hgh.
 
Well I just shot up some tb 500 today. I'm gonna keep my routine the same as it is now which is a lot more intense than my first 6 months when I gained an inch. Measurements bpel 7 in base girth 5.25. It has been the same for a couple months so we will see if the tb 500 makes a difference
 
Where would you recommend to find TB500 at? How often do you inject and how much of a dose? What's your height, weight, and body type?
Jdcsd;521981 said:
Well I just shot up some tb 500 today. I'm gonna keep my routine the same as it is now which is a lot more intense than my first 6 months when I gained an inch. Measurements bpel 7 in base girth 5.25. It has been the same for a couple months so we will see if the tb 500 makes a difference
 
I'm 6'1 200lb athletic body type. For dose I don't think your size matters. They give 10mg shots to race horses. It's sold in 2 and 5mg vial so most people take one of those as the dose. You take 1 shot a week for 6 weeks then just one shot a month. I'm gonna take 2mg for 5 weeks then 5mg on week 6 then 5mg a month later. Its been a week and I haven't measured but I've been stuck at 2 long bars a side on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] and I just added the small bar to that so I'm stretching further. I will measure after a month but prob do an update on here every week as to any other changes I experience.
 
Jdcsd;523140 said:
I'm 6'1 200lb athletic body type. For dose I don't think your size matters. They give 10mg shots to race horses. It's sold in 2 and 5mg vial so most people take one of those as the dose. You take 1 shot a week for 6 weeks then just one shot a month. I'm gonna take 2mg for 5 weeks then 5mg on week 6 then 5mg a month later. Its been a week and I haven't measured but I've been stuck at 2 long bars a side on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] and I just added the small bar to that so I'm stretching further. I will measure after a month but prob do an update on here every week as to any other changes I experience.

Thanks, bro where do you order from?
 
Hey jdcsd. I have no doubt that the TB4/TB-500 played a big role in your first 1 inch gain you made while only using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. TB-500 will help keep connective tissues flexable and imflamation down. TB-500 also accelerates wound healing and also enduces promotion of cell migration and angiogenesis. The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] you were using for 3 hours a day also promotes cell division and angiogenesis under light tension for so many hours. The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] work plus the TB-500 was why you gained a whole inch in length in such a short amount of time. Keep up the good work bro.

Hey Jaronimo. Im not sure where jdcsd gets his but you can get it from Ergopep.com. It's pretty cheap stuff too.
 
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kingsnake;523238 said:
Hey jdcsd. I have no doubt that the TB4/TB-500 played a big role in your first 1 inch gain you made while only using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. TB-500 will help keep connective tissues flexable and imflamation down. TB-500 also accelerates wound healing and also enduces promotion of cell migration and angiogenesis. The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] you were using for 3 hours a day also promotes cell division and angiogenesis under light tension for so many hours. The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] work plus the TB-500 was why you gained a whole inch in length in such a short amount of time. Keep up the good work bro.

Hey Jaronimo. Im not sure where jdcsd gets his but you can get it from Ergopep.com. It's pretty cheap stuff too.

Thanks snake you're the man. Have you experimented with TB500?
 
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Hey Jaronimo. Yes I use tb-500 as well but I actually inject it straight into my dick combined with IGF-DES and PGE1. On my last chem cycle I went from 6.25 midgirth to 6.4 midgirth with tb-500 in my injection coctail.

If you order at ergopep you will have to buy syringes and solvents seperately. With tb500 you need to buy sterile water to reconstitue the TB500 in. After you reconstitute it you'll have 8 days before the peptide goes bad. Too stop this you'll need to preload your syringes with what ever dose you plan on breaking your TB500 in and store the dose filled syringes in the freezer so they'll last for months if need be. Once you're ready to inject just take a dose filled syringe out of the freezer and give it 15 minutes to thaw out. Afterwards that thawed out dose is ready for injection.

For syringes you can get 100 syringes at walmart for 12 bucks. Just tell them you need them for your caverject and they shouldn't give you to much hassle. For syringes buy the 29 gauge half inch needle length insulin syringes if you plan on injecting in your penis.
 
kingsnake;523262 said:
Hey Jaronimo. Yes I use tb-500 as well but I actually inject it straight into my dick combined with IGF-DES and PGE1. On my last chem cycle I went from 6.25 midgirth to 6.4 midgirth with tb-500 in my injection coctail.

If you order at ergopep you will have to buy syringes and solvents seperately. With tb500 you need to buy sterile water to reconstitue the TB500 in. After you reconstitute it you'll have 8 days before the peptide goes bad. Too stop this you'll need to preload your syringes with what ever dose you plan on breaking your TB500 in and store the dose filled syringes in the freezer so they'll last for months if need be. Once you're ready to inject just take a dose filled syringe out of the freezer and give it 15 minutes to thaw out. Afterwards that thawed out dose is ready for injection.

For syringes you can get 100 syringes at walmart for 12 bucks. Just tell them you need them for your caverject and they shouldn't give you to much hassle. For syringes buy the 29 gauge half inch needle length insulin syringes if you plan on injecting in your penis.

Any thoughts on JDCSD's method of sub cutaneous injection in the stomach?
 
kingsnake;523262 said:
Hey Jaronimo. Yes I use tb-500 as well but I actually inject it straight into my dick combined with IGF-DES and PGE1. On my last chem cycle I went from 6.25 midgirth to 6.4 midgirth with tb-500 in my injection coctail.

If you order at ergopep you will have to buy syringes and solvents seperately. With tb500 you need to buy sterile water to reconstitue the TB500 in. After you reconstitute it you'll have 8 days before the peptide goes bad. Too stop this you'll need to preload your syringes with what ever dose you plan on breaking your TB500 in and store the dose filled syringes in the freezer so they'll last for months if need be. Once you're ready to inject just take a dose filled syringe out of the freezer and give it 15 minutes to thaw out. Afterwards that thawed out dose is ready for injection.

For syringes you can get 100 syringes at walmart for 12 bucks. Just tell them you need them for your caverject and they shouldn't give you to much hassle. For syringes buy the 29 gauge half inch needle length insulin syringes if you plan on injecting in your penis.


What are your thoughts on oral tb-500 King?
 
Thanks for the input king. I've read your log but not ready for dick injections jet yet lol. I have modest goals so hoping I can't get there without it. Just going for 8.5 bpel 6 girth I'm 7x5.25 now. I quit the tb for a couple months but started up last week and already feels good. Hoping this year I will hit my goals.
 
Insulin needle. Today it's been a week since my first shot so I did another 2mg today. Yesterday I got to 2 long bars and the small bar a side on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]. I've been stuck at 2 long bar for couple months so that was cool. Tb500 or coincidence? Guess we will see in the coming weeks. If I all of the sudden can add another cm quick then I'll be happy.
 
Jdcsd;523507 said:
Insulin needle. Today it's been a week since my first shot so I did another 2mg today. Yesterday I got to 2 long bars and the small bar a side on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]. I've been stuck at 2 long bar for couple months so that was cool. Tb500 or coincidence? Guess we will see in the coming weeks. If I all of the sudden can add another cm quick then I'll be happy.

26 g? 27? 28? 29? Also 1/2 inch or 1 inch?
 
Any insulin needle will do for sub q shots. If u shoot it in your dick u need to be more specific on needle size. You can get needles and sterile water on amazon
 
So it's exciting times being that I'm up a bar on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words]. I was getting frustrated at two long bars for a while. The stretch feels good with the extra bar, I'm even able to adjust out a little bit farther. I hope when I measure next month that I'll be up a quarter inch or so
 
I think you are best off injecting it. It comes in an injection vial and is reconstituted with sterile water for injection. I know that other things that are meant for injection have little to no benefit if you drink them, like steroids
 
Jdcsd;523702 said:
I think you are best off injecting it. It comes in an injection vial and is reconstituted with sterile water for injection. I know that other things that are meant for injection have little to no benefit if you drink them, like steroids

How much sterile water per 2mg's of tb4?
 
Jdcsd;523702 said:
I think you are best off injecting it. It comes in an injection vial and is reconstituted with sterile water for injection. I know that other things that are meant for injection have little to no benefit if you drink them, like steroids

Thanks
 
Hey DLD. Sorry for the delay bro. Been so busy and haven't even logged on in a while. With TB-500 it's best to inject it for a more localized effect on the penis. If you take oral t-500 it will become to systematic. Your body will prioritize the tb-500 for other things then the penis. So by injecting the peptide into the penis you're forcing localized attention to the organ. Especially if you wear a cock ring for 15 to 30 minutes so it won't flow out of the penis before docking to as many receptor sites as it can.
 
kingsnake;524103 said:
Hey DLD. Sorry for the delay bro. Been so busy and haven't even logged on in a while. With TB-500 it's best to inject it for a more localized effect on the penis. If you take oral t-500 it will become to systematic. Your body will prioritize the tb-500 for other things then the penis. So by injecting the peptide into the penis you're forcing localized attention to the organ. Especially if you wear a cock ring for 15 to 30 minutes so it won't flow out of the penis before docking to as many receptor sites as it can.
I can see how tht works for igf but tb500 is in your system for so long wouldn't having it in there for 20 minutes just delay it doing systemic. I mean after the loading phase you only need to do once a month injections to maintain so that is in your system very long
 
Hey Jdcsd. Yes the half life of tb-500 is indeed long but your body has a way of prioritizing drugs and chemicals when systematic. The connective tissues of the penis is last on your body's list to concentrate on with drugs and peptides. This is why for some men even viagra doesn't work for them. By injecting the tb-500, you're ensuring 100% concentration of the peptide setting up shop and docking to as many receptor sites in the penis to work it's magic in the penis for a good 15 to 30 minutes before taking off the cockring and letting it go systematic and working it's magic else where in the body.

By injecting the peptide in the penis. You will lose a great deal of it once you take off the cockring but by then you're penis's receptor sites will be loaded to full capacity with tb-500 which to me is a more efficient route to take.
 
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Call me crazy but after doing a little research I found this is for horses and when you go to buy it the words NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION in big bold letters.

Anyways what's the dosing schedule. I mean is 5 mg enough to last a month? No way I'm putting it in my dick! I guess injecting into a muscle is the procedure?

I feel like a crack head.....
 
kingsnake;524251 said:
Hey Jdcsd. Yes the half life of tb-500 is indeed long but your body has a way of prioritizing drugs and chemicals when systematic. The connective tissues of the penis is last on your body's list to concentrate on with drugs and peptides. This is why for some men even viagra doesn't work for them. By injecting the tb-500, you're ensuring 100% concentration of the peptide setting up shop and docking to as many receptor sites in the penis to work it's magic in the penis for a good 15 to 30 minutes before taking off the cockring and letting it go systematic and working it's magic else where in the body.

By injecting the peptide in the penis. You will lose a great deal of it once you take off the cockring but by then you're penis's receptor sites will be loaded to full capacity with tb-500 which to me is a more efficient route to take.

Would a higher dose orally, with it's long half life, give reason to gain? I completely understand that injecting is the best method but would there be any value in high doses of TB-500 and would it be safe within those possible limits?
 
doublelongdaddy;524328 said:
Would a higher dose orally, with it's long half life, give reason to gain? I completely understand that injecting is the best method but would there be any value in high doses of TB-500 and would it be safe within those possible limits?

Is someone thinking about using another super ingredient for the "super pill"?
 
Hey rebel2011. Yes TB-500 is used for racing horses to help them with joint and ligament problems. Just because it’s used for live stock doesn’t mean it’s dangerous for humans. You’ll find that when you order peptides or even PGE1 from online, the vials are always going to say for research only or not for human use. PGE1 even sez that when I order it from ergopep.com but we all know that it is used for guys with servere ED.

TB-500 is an excellent peptide to use for what we are trying to accomplish here. It promotes cell proliferation and ageniogenies. That basically means it encourages cells to multiply. This is definitely important since we are trying to cause as much cell division in the spongy tissues of the penis as possible. More cell division and proliferation means more erectile tissue mass which means a bigger penis. Tb-500 also excelerates wound healing and tissue repair, not to mention it enhances connective tissue elasticity. A more elastic tunica, will alow more blood to engorge the CCs which will result in a thicker penis.

Here’s a link talking about TB-500 in better detail. The link will even show you how TB-500 is even good for injecting in the scalp to regrow hair for guys that are balding.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/r...super-thread-log-what-where-when-why-how.html

Hey DLD. With the oral administration of TB-500, I’m not sure if taking it orally is very effective. One would have to study if TB-500 can survive the harse environment of the digestive track. The thing about peptides is they are very sensitive compounds. Especially peptides like IGF. By taking peptides orally you’ll also have to worry about the small intestines and the liver filtering out important properties thus lowering the effectiveness of the peptide. I’ll have to do some more research on it to see if oral administration is a possible route.
 
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OK so this stuff is going to make my tunica stretch keep fluid retention down help heal me after a workout or injury and regrow my hair! I really want to get a bigger dick and more hair and being that this is made from amino that is naturally in my body anyways.....

It is very tempting to try I just can't. The people that are using this are much braver than I am! I'm trying to talk myself into this but its not working
 
rebel2011;524264 said:
Call me crazy but after doing a little research I found this is for horses and when you go to buy it the words NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION in big bold letters.

Anyways what's the dosing schedule. I mean is 5 mg enough to last a month? No way I'm putting it in my dick! I guess injecting into a muscle is the procedure?

I feel like a crack head.....

You need to take a minimum of 2mg a week for six weeks then the recommended maintenance dose is just once per month. I was gonna do 5mg for my once a month dose but I think I will instead take a 2mg shot every 2 weeks for maintenence. This is the dose for sub q shots. Inject into your ab skin
 
houseofr00bees;524454 said:
I went on ergopep.com and searched for tb 500 but thymosin beta 400 (TB4) is coming up at $14 a pop. Is this what we are talking about?
Yes. I haven't figured out why it goes by 2 separate names, but they are the same.
 
Hey, when you inject this into your dick do you have the cock ring on before you inject or do you put it on afterwards? And should he penis be completely flaccid or slightly erect?

Also, is TB4 a steroid and if so does it cause all the side effects related to common steroid use?
 
Jdcsd;523582 said:
So it's exciting times being that I'm up a bar on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words]. I was getting frustrated at two long bars for a while. The stretch feels good with the extra bar, I'm even able to adjust out a little bit farther. I hope when I measure next month that I'll be up a quarter inch or so


Are you still on the 3 hr [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] routine?
 
Hey rebel2011. It really depends on how bad you want a bigger penis. The route of chemical Penis Enlargement is not a must in penis enlargement. Members have been making gains without going this route. Hell even I have gone from 8 x 5.25 to 9.5 x 6.25 without the use of chemicals. Im now 9.5 x 6.4 thanks to chemicals. The thing is you can look at chemical Penis Enlargement as a last resort to take if conventional Penis Enlargement doesn’t work for you. I personally felt that I had reached the end point of any new gains for me with conventional Penis Enlargement thus me upgrading to chemical Penis Enlargement. The chose is yours bro. If you don’t feel comfortable pinning your self with syringes then don’t do it.

Hey houseofr00bees. Yes TB-500 is just another name for TB4. It’s the same stuff. Pretty cheap too on ergopep. You can find pge1 and igf-des on ergopep.com as well if you’re interested.

With injecting I personally like to injected my chems into my dick first then right after injection, I quickly put a cock ring on it then mash and rub my flaccid penis all around to distribute the chems through out the shaft evenly. Next I then stimulate myself to a semi erection or full erection to make the cockring tighter and trap the chems in the CCs.

TB-4 is not a steroid. It’s a peptide. As far as causing problems like common steroid use I haven’t read anything about it doing so.
 
KING thanks. I saw in your pics that you apply the dmso paba mixture with the dropper. Is this the correct method of application? Do you also get the dmso and paba from ergopep?
 
houseofr00bees;524488 said:
Are you still on the 3 hr [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] routine?

Most days I get 3-4 hours in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]. The big differences now from when I started is now I also do manual stretches and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. I also have an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]all day stretcher[/words] with some weight to it coming to me soon that I will wear for about 7hrs in the morning and a divo suit when sleeping. So I will be doing some form of pe all day, sometimes aggressive and sometimes passive. As prescribed by [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words].
 
Oh and when I'm in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] it's aggressive. I go for a big stretch in it
 
Jdcsd;524701 said:
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Good work! So glad you are including the teachings of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]!
 
doublelongdaddy;524841 said:
Good work! So glad you are including the teachings of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]!

Thank you sir. I plan on 2013 being the year of the gain! I have some big goals but I'm an extremist so this sport of pe is right up my ally. I will leave nothing to chance and give it 100%. For my update I did my 3rd tb shot yesterday and don't have much to report. I will measure in a little over a week. At that time I will also outline in detail my complete daily routine. This will be quite lengthy. I'm now at my vacation cabin up in the mountains enjoying the snow for the new year. Of course I'm still peing and am in my 3rd hour of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] now. See y'all in 2013 and happy gainfull year!
 
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