gymjohn;290012 said:
But surely in weight training, the goal is to create microtears, which heal up and rebuild bigger and stronger that before...thus adapting to the stress put upon the system. As the body adapts more weight is needed to create a new level of stress to force to body to adapt! If correct nutrition and rest (for muscles rest is a major factor) is applied then more growth is achieved.
Blood flow increases during a workout but it is not the goal, the microtears are the goal! Increased blood flow is great during the healing process to bring in the nutrients but why is increased blood flow the goal of Penis Enlargement??
Surely the goal of Penis Enlargement s to stress the cells to force new cells to grow. People who wear [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] seem to grow and they wear them for hours a day everyday?

Micro tears are not a goal in Penis Enlargement. This isn't muscle building, its blood cell building. The more blood your penis holds, the bigger it gets. I could gain .5-1 inch in a few days just by increasing blood flow.

Yeah, if the tunica cant grow faster enough it will tear but it is by no means the goal of Penis Enlargement and it has little or nothing to do with real gains.

I was thinking about this the other day, if pe was analogous to weight training: steady increases in force during efficient routines and more importance on nutrition and rest/healing.

Hopefully I will be healthy enough in a few months to start Penis Enlargement again and then I will see for myself.
 
this guy is bogus, no question in my mind. some coillege kid trying to stir us up. Penis Enlargement does not work this way pal, sorry, wish it did tho, then we'd all have 11 inchers.
 
Drjeckle;290055 said:
Micro tears are not a goal in Penis Enlargement. This isn't muscle building, its blood cell building. The more blood your penis holds, the bigger it gets. I could gain .5-1 inch in a few days just by increasing blood flow.

Yeah, if the tunica cant grow faster enough it will tear but it is by no means the goal of Penis Enlargement and it has little or nothing to do with real gains.

I was thinking about this the other day, if pe was analogous to weight training: steady increases in force during efficient routines and more importance on nutrition and rest/healing.


So increased blood flow to the blood cells is the goal? isnt this just to stress the cells...causing microtears in THOSE blood cells and causing new growth? I am posing this as a question because I dont know if I am correct. But what about all the stretching exercises? They dont promote blood flow, they are performed flaccid. Only the jelq increases blood volume in the blood holding spongy cell doesnt it?
Id love to know more about how Penis Enlargement works!
 
alwaystrying;290057 said:
this guy is bogus, no question in my mind. some college kid trying to stir us up. Penis Enlargement does not work this way pal, sorry, wish it did tho, then we'd all have 11 inchers.
Funny you say that , Score03 is coming from the College of duPage, Glen Ellen, IL server along with his two pals Brant and Scottie
 
Alright guys, let's give this guy a chance in his "THEORY", as you can see quote on quote. Maybe he is telling the truth, maybe he doesn't want people to grow so in the future everyone will have a big dick like him. But, there is always a BUT in here..I don't see how cold showers can process out lactic acid from your dick like that. Cold water will constrict the vessels and blood so any type of PROCESS will be limited or stopped due to temperature changes. Thus, tissues and muscles differ in lactic acid formation and regeneration of muscles and tissue groups. I am not going into all that mumbo jumbo but I eat a hellova lot of protien and my shit ain't growin that fast. Not only that, I am taking NITRIX by BSN and that helps vascularity as well as recovery and strength, so, I should be huge now right?
 
I'm really amazed at how many men really do believe that "more is more and more is even better". You have limits, at least as far as your healing and restoration is concerned. Unless you, through experience, can say that 1000 jelqs is ABSOLUTELY necessary for you to gain then by all means that's what you should do. Too many men here are expecting monthly gains of .5" or hell even a whole 1" that it only stands to reason that if you make an 1/8" gain you're going to be disappointed. Along with Vaselinknight I've found that working less does bring me consistent and actually more rapid gains. I've followed DLD routines when I was on my length plateau and I even consulted with RED for some constrictor routines and NOTHING changed. For 2 years I was left wondering what I was doing and why I was wasting so much time. It was no fault of Red's or DLD's but the truth of the matter is that 90% of all the men here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] are following routines that won't get them where they want to be LONG TERM. I gained from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] and I progressed a bit into the next year, but then everything stopped cold and there I was with nothing to show for my efforts. The day in day out application of moderate to low-intensity stretching will get you gains, but this is not a SPRINT it's a marathon. Girth is similar as it takes consistent effort to make gains but it doesn't need to be penis splitting vein popping intensity, all if needs to be is enough to cause some expansion and growth. This is a very simple truth, and it's not one that is very popular because everyone wants to believe that there in the 10% that needs to train like a maniac to make progress, and this is just not the case. This is not training "lightly" but it is training intelligently. Use enough force to stretch the tissue, but not enough to cause the injury response to kick in and you'll gain length. Expand the tunica enough, with minimal to zero fluid buildup, and you will grow. There's no need for 2-3 hour routines or hanging monstrously heavy weights to grow. Keep it simple and work everyday to grow a little bit more, instead of all at once, and you will grow.
 
Millionman, I thank you! I have been wanting so much to hear people views on rest and overtraining (started a thread in the newbie section bout it!). I can totally see where you are coming from! I just heard about how much DLD and others used to train and how much they gaines...also I tried a "less is more" kind of aproach and gained nothing in those three months! So how exactly would YOU recommend I train mate?? I am currently on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] which takes about 1hour to 1.5 hours per day, everyday! Done it for about 5/6 weeks and gained nothing yet mate!

Cheers!

john
 
Also millionman, do you recommend an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]? Those are geared to the lower intensity but high duration stretches arnt they.
 
Anything is possible as no two units are the same,ive had phenominal gains from pumping/stretching but ive been at it since 92.Pe is a long term devotion.2 inches in 2 months???its possible,if you overtrain like a maniac.more for less?I DONT THINK SO.
 
gymjohn;290125 said:
Millionman, I thank you! I have been wanting so much to hear people views on rest and overtraining (started a thread in the newbie section bout it!). I can totally see where you are coming from! I just heard about how much DLD and others used to train and how much they gaines...also I tried a "less is more" kind of aproach and gained nothing in those three months! So how exactly would YOU recommend I train mate?? I am currently on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] which takes about 1hour to 1.5 hours per day, everyday! Done it for about 5/6 weeks and gained nothing yet mate!

Cheers!

john

Millionman's Progressive Stretching thread:

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31702&highlight=progressive+stretching


keep pushing
 
Millionman-

I read your Progressive Stretching post and have been following it for the past week or so.

I see you mention the same approach to girth training. What have you been doing specifically?
 
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