The Ultimate ADS - VTLC Tugger

oh also, can someone please confirm that this can be shipped to the uk as i just placed a order and forgot to check! :-s
thanks
Sunburnt Yetti

Sunburnt Yetti said:

alrite,
im just geting back into NPenis Enlargement stopped after the whole PP thing went on. thought its time to get back into it and this sounds great. but i cant get my head round how this stays on. What actually keepys this on? :-s please reply

Sunburnt Yetti

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I don't have one yet, but I beleive the inventor compares it to Chinese finger cuffs (insert "Chasing Amy" double entendre here). The more the penis tries to get out of the unit, the more the unit tightens to prevent that from happening.

ahh very clever!
but will he post to the uk!?!!!!!
help!
Sunburnt yetti

Yes he will

phew thats a releif!
is this really as good as everyone says!!?? Im really hopin to use it 24/7. how realistic is this!? (with short breaks for sex and loo ectt!)
Sunburnt Yetti

Hello some questions:

Which yourskin cone do I need?? (is it adviceable to use also yourskin cone spacer???)

Thanks for your comment, before I place an order!

ALL you need is the white your skin cone, the VTLC Tugger and one White Strap!

1/8 Inch per year!!!!
And you will say this is the ultimate ADS?????
I had increased my penis lenght nearly 1 inch (exactly 2 cm) in 3,5 months by using Penimaster!
This is penis enlargement and a good ADS!

jelqi-boy said:

1/8 Inch per year!!!!
And you will say this is the ultimate ADS?????
I had increased my penis lenght nearly 1 inch (exactly 2 cm) in 3,5 months by using Penimaster!
This is penis enlargement and a good ADS!

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If you read the thread it is made clear that the 1/8 inch is not accurate and by all acounts an underestimation. And 1 inch is not 2 cm.

@supra
I´ve ordered the vtlc (your comments really stepped me into this) and yes, must say, i´m very happy with it. My question is:

I do hanging with it (mmhh had to modify it), do you ?
Which is it better, hangin with vtlc or with the BIB ? What is your experience ?

TIA for your comment

911

This could get interesting!!! You hang with it!! How much weight have you put on there? I have not tried it casue I figured the metal noose would come out. If you can hang with this thing, then it would be far better than the Bib

Does anyone know how much tension orthodontists apply to teeth, or how much tension is applied when people have their leg bones lengthened?

Id say that an actual hanger vs. the tugger would be better. Reason being is that a hanger grabs the internal strutchers of the penis and not just the forskin/glans like the tugger setup does. There's more of a grip on the insides of the penis with a home made hanger or production bib. Plus you can hang more weight in the long run.

I have virtually no education when it comes to bibs and hangers. What's the difference, how do they work, and where can they be obtained?

They work by gripping the shaft internally with pressure mostly on the sides. You can either make a basic BIB hanger (two models) ....see my sticky thread in the hanger forum or you can order a production model: http://www.bibhanger.com.

I'd suggest building one of the basic models first. Learn how to hang with one of those. Get the basics down. A home made basic model can get you a lot, if not all of your gains.

Hi guys,

I can hang up to... what ever I want. To be honest, i don´t use the original vtlc tugger for hanging. I build my own tugger with FIMO and baked it with a sort of hook, so I guess I could hang a lot of pounds on that. I´m a starter with hanging, so actually I use at about 10 pounds hanging weights. (Still using the original Skin-Cone, which fits perfect). Look at Tom Hubbards site, he´s a real inventor.

What is the difference, why is BIB´s hanger connecting better (than the vtlc) to the inner structure of the penis as stillwantmore sad ?

Greets,

911

I have made hangers and what I never liked was the fact that you have to fit them 1" behind the glans, also the hanger itself is usually 1-2" in length itself. Therefore when I am hanging with my 1.5" hanger I am loosing 1" to the glans 1" to the gap and 1.5" to the hanger. The hanger moves forward 0.5" So I am not stretching about 3" of the penis. For simplicity say I am only stretching 1/2 my length. Also say that length gains are directly proportional to the weight, then my length gains with a 10lb weight with the tugger should be equivalent to a 20lb weight from my usual hanger. I don't believe this is true to that extent, but you see my point about the benefit of full penis stretching.

Safe night stretching has been on my mind since the start and this is perfect for it. I have been playing around with ideas for vacuum stretching for a while, if the tugger really is using vacuum then having a larger cross-sectional area where it attaches to the glans will allow for far bigger weights to be used with the same level of vacuum. Vacuum is force per area like pressure so if your tugger is holding 10lb just before slipping with a 1"diameter (0.785 square inch) cone then a 1.5" diameter (1.767 sq") cone will hold 2.25 times (1.767/0.785) the weight with the same vacuum. This is important when hanging heavy weights as the vacuum created with a small cone will be huge and may cause blisters.

Again I dont think the maths are this simple as I think the skin is taking some of the weight and not just the vacuum, what do you tugger users think? does most pull seem to be vacuum? What is the diameter on the inner cone and the inside diameter of the outer cone?

I am uncut and have a pretty large foreskin, I think I could make my own tugger with a larger area for heavy weights. If I fashion a cone roughly from hard plastic I can then cover it in silicon to smooth it out and add cushioning which may reduce pinching pains at high weights. For the outer cone I can do the same. I can drill through the inner cone to attach a good hanging noose, the hole will be sealed airtight with the silicon. My inner cone could also start narrow and flare out and then back in towards the noose, this could enable me to stretch the foreskin over a much wider cross-sectioal cone shape, I am not sure what effect this has on vacuum but it does mean the force is over a much wider area of skin so it won't be as sore. Again, what do you tugger users think? The outer cone could be replaced with some adhesive medical bandage which would make sure it stays on when asleep.

Well I made my own tugger and it is great. I can lift up to 5.5lb so far and think I will get used to it and be able for more in a few weeks. The vacuum on the small area is the real restricting factor, as I havent done much pumping I am taking it easier to let the glans get used to it.

911 said:

Hi guys,

What is the difference, why is BIB´s hanger connecting better (than the vtlc) to the inner structure of the penis as stillwantmore sad ?

Greets,

911

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The production BIB hanger compresses the penis on the sides laterally and grabs around 2" of the penis shaft. The Tugger seems to grab mainly the skin and some by the glans.

I think I'm gonna put my tugger up for sale. Anyone interested? Used twice, PMme if anyone is interested >>>>

Its been Sold and Shipped out. Thanks for all the intrest!