The True Average Size?

harmonic169 said:

You know, this whole talk of 'average' is really a moot point. It's just the highest point on the bell curve. I mean, we all want something to compare ourselves to, to consider standard or normal, but it should also be kept in mind that fully half of all penis' are BIGGER than average, just as half are smaller than average. It's possible for a woman to have dated a string of huge guys because they're in the above average 50%, just as it's possible for a woman to date a string of guys who were in the bellow average 50%. So let me turn this around:

Would you doubt a woman who claimed that her last three boyfriends were 3" erect?

Now granted, I doubt this woman was having sex with a man who was more than a foot long, but at the same time, I can understand coolbreeze's point. In the end, expirence is not a good measure of what is average, only study and objective observation provide accurate results, which is to say: 5.25"-6.5". Don't sweat the big ones.

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Exactly Harmonic...like I said...anecdotal evidence is statistically weak...but it does affect how we think...when I keep hearing stories like these ...I wonder..perhaps Luke is right...smaller penis men dont have as much sex?

Also - this woman took out a ruler and measured this guy. I really doubt she was bs'ing me....we're both clinicians so talking clinical is second nature for us.

I think any female like this one that would comprimise herself to have so many sexual relations seems dubious. I would seriously question her integrity as she presents herself as a common Jezebel who enjoys multiple relations for the sake of unattached sexual pleasure. She claims to be a professional in some field of science and I would think she would be more discriminating about her lifestyle or her kiss & tell stories. All this combined would tell me she is a good 'ol fashioned bullshitter.

coolbreeze said:

I agree Juggers....if penis size mattered in procreation/evolution - we'd all have bigger penises....hot guys get so much pussy its ridikulus! Small dick and all! lol

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I'm not too sure if this applies here but here goes anyway. I was watching on one of t hose discovery or science channels about how humans evolved sexually from other primates. If man had the relative size penis as a gorilla I believe the average male would be around 4 inches or less as compared to 6 inches. It mentioned that the human male has the largest penis size of all the primates on average. They said that this suggests that early human woman chose mates who had larger reproductive organs for whatever reason. Now take this any way you want to but these are the possible conclusion I've come up with for whatever its worth.

1. the natural instinct of human woman is to look for a mate that has a large penis.

2. this desire has evolved into something else (ex.search of mate who has money, intelligence, job security, etc.)

3. human woman has genetically selected men which has caused men now have the largest penis of all primates moving the average higher to 6in. So technically if you look at humanity on a much broader time-line a man over 4 inches is doing damn well and could be considered pretty large, historically speaking.

5. (I'm just adding this in for fun) Men who are larger in the 7 and up range are the products of greedy women.

The show also said that a woman only needs 2 inches to induce pleasure, biologically speaking. So guys stop worrying how small you are, or if you are big, or what not. Hey if you can get and keep it up and can trust your pelvis what really do you have to complain about? And remember anything Penis Enlargement can bring you is a plus , but honestly don't believe women"need it".

good point on evolution, but humans also have larger testicles than gorillas...not cuz women choose them but cuz testicle size in primates is determined by the amount of promiscuity....One Silverback controls all the female apes, in chimps and man - balls are larger to flush out other male sperm.

Who can say why male penis in man is larger...it could be an adaptive response to sexual behavior such as promiscuity.....or a deeper vaginal canal in female humans versus female goriallas

joe_smith said:

1. the natural instinct of human woman is to look for a mate that has a large penis.

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I'm not sure what that means exactly, but it's a little disturbing. Is that to say that, all other things being equal, a woman would instinctually prefer a guy with a 12" penis over a guy with an 8"er? I know you said 'large' and not 'larger', but I wasn't sure.

I've always assumed that at some point (7"-9", depending on the woman), one experiences neither attractive nor functional benefits through gains.

prince Albert said:

Scientist or not i'm pretty dubious of what she is claiming,also her claim of having several guys in the 8-9 inch mark,she must either be very lucky to find all these guys or she is the biggest bike going,to be honest i think she is fucking with your head for some reason.

This can of hairspray is 11 x 6.5 and she is saying this guy is even bigger?

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Laughing my ass off, what a great representation of a huge dick, makes one think about being too big.

The perfect size in my opinion is 8 x 6, average size is around 5.5 x 5. Since average is 2.5" shorter than 8" I would say this would be enough for any woman. 12 x 7, very unlikely but I could be wrong.

According to Kinsey, a 9" penis is one in a thousand. Correct me, if I'm wrong on this stat. So, following these stats, you would probably have to have seen (close up) about a thousand penises to run into one that long.

How many people do YOU know who have seen (close up) a thousand penises?

Her claims sound quite dubious to me. My non bone pressed dick is thick as shit and better than 8". My Mrs., who thinks any phallocentric interest is crazy immature, doesn't have a clue how big I am compared to others. But then, she has only seen two or three other dicks besides mine.

Most women don't have a clue.

Doesn't the Kinsey survey state that 2% of men who were measured were 8" and over in legth & whatever in girth?

Taking that info, in a city of 1 million people, there would be 20 000 men roaming around with - literally - the biggest dicks in town.

Or if I take the number of students when I went to highschool ( 1000 ), that means there would have been 20 students with above 8" dicks. If from those 1000, a girl sleeps with 3, she has a 6% chance of getting a hung guy. ( I think...I suck at math...)

So really, some women could really have been with extremly huge guys. But who cares? If she's with you at the moment, that means his big dick wasn't enough.

Stop focusing on other guys dicks and focus on your own. If you think it's too small, quit whining and do your pe.

goinfor11x7 said:

According to Kinsey, a 9" penis is one in a thousand. Correct me, if I'm wrong on this stat. So, following these stats, you would probably have to have seen (close up) about a thousand penises to run into one that long.

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How would they possibly know that? They surveyed somewhere in the 250 men range so they really made an assumption there. I believe that the odds of a natural 9 are closer to 1 in a million or more. Maybe a 7" penis but never a 9.

An old post:


What Is The Average Penis Size?

What is Average Penis Size?... the question so many men want a real answer to. If you are anything like me the phrase "average penis size" can mean many different things and leave you feeling confused about the definitive answer. Looking on-line will make things even more confusing due to the numerous surveys and studies conducted around this issue. I visited every conceivable study the Internet has and picked two studies I felt to be most accurate out of the vast collection of sites.

The Kinsey study is one of the biggest and most famous penis size studies ever done. It was done in 1948 and involved 3,500 college males. I thought this to be a great study with some minor flaws. One being most of the men in the study were white, this is a problem because it leaves doubts about race cross sections. The other being the method of measurement, the subject simply held a white card against their penis and marked their length on the card, which was later measured. Even though this was medically viewed it leaves a large area of error, The Kinsey study concluded the average erect length was 6.21 inches and the average erect girth was 4.85 inches. Average Flaccid length was found to be 3.89 inches and flaccid girth 3.75 inches on average.

Other studies fall short of any kind of ethical standard because of method of measurement (Usually done unassisted by the subject). These studies have such a broad element of error that making a conclusion here would be wrong. Men generally will not be honest in these situations due to the inconclusive studies that have spawned unconfirmed rumors of average size. Most men when asked what they believed average size was would say it to be in the 6.5 inch area. So when measuring the penis most will stretch the truth above this point to avoid embarrassment. Statistical surveys and self-perception questionnaires have caused more confusion. Based on the evidence, the answer confirmed is still a cloudy 6 to 6.5 inches. I though this was untrue and a very unfair size for science to conclude, so I continued to search.

The one study I did like most, is Lifestyles Condoms. I think it left the smallest amount of error. In the Spring 2001 in Cancun, Mexico, Lifestyles gathered a total of 301 male volunteers over 18 years old. Each subject was measured by a researcher, which eliminated the cheating factor. The results of the Lifestyles survey found that average penis erect length is 5.87 inches and erect girth is 4.97 inches. Also, according to the survey, 54% of subjects measured between 5.5 inches and 6.3 inches in erect length with 53.3% measuring between 4.72 inches and 5.11 inches in girth. I liked everything in this study but the amount of subjects and the race and penis size inconsistencies.

What I think to be the most definitive answer:
In my opinion, considering all of the information above, I would conclude that the average erect penis measures closer to 5.5 inches than the previously believed 6.5 inches in length. As far as girth is concerned 5 inches is what I believe to be the average. These may be my opinions but I would like to let you know I have studied very closely all surveys of validity and found these numbers to be most unbiased.

I think that wether we are above, below or right smack in the middle of what average is, it gives us a better game plan when the actual number is true. For the person who feels his 5.5" penis is small, this information becomes very relative to him. For the person that falls short of this number, it gives him a solid, realistic goal to work towards. For the men who fall above this number it gives the added confidence we all desperately seek. But in the end, the name of the game is enlargement. The average size will no longer have such strong meaning to you because you will be far from average.

THanks, DLD, for putting all this in perspective.

yes i totally agree with the thread 3 of my mates have 8 inch plus and have proven it, also my brothers friend apparently are well hung as well one bragging about a 9.5 inch cock. now all his girlfriends have confirmed this so i would like to know why the hell the average is 5-6 inches as clearly most people have bigger than this or know at least one person who has. also every lass i know claims they have had a huge dick before so there are alot out there to be honest just theres alot of smaller people as well

thefranchise said:

You have to understand coolbreeze, 8-9 inches to a woman even if she's a scientist is really like 6-7. And 7 inch girth? no way. At 5.5 girth when im clamped i cant get my hand all the way around my penis. So most likely The 12 x 7 guy she was with was probably more like 8x6 at the MOST probably not even that much, and most other guys shes been with are probably average 6.5 x 5.25

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I agree! And the only reason I am skeptical is because I've been with a lot of women. Probably more than I would want to admit (believe it or not). I have found that there are many woman who want to bring this size topic up and many who bring it up because they somehow want to impress you that they've hung (pun intended) with the big boyz. They are just as or more likely to exxagerate the measurements in their favor. I've heard all the stories and the, "It was this big," with hands drawn apart, and; "It was down to his knees!"

And every pussy I've had was excellent!

now all his girlfriends have confirmed this so i would like to know why the hell the average is 5-6 inches as clearly most people have bigger than this or know at least one person who has

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Because, men with a small penis are more likely to shy away from sexual encounters and less likely to brag about the size of their member. When was the last time you heard one of your friends bigging themselves up about their 4-5" erection? Probably never...

coolbreeze said:

Also - this woman took out a ruler and measured this guy. I really doubt she was bs'ing me....we're both clinicians so talking clinical is second nature for us.

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Either you or her are bs'ing. I'm betting it's you.

DLD has reason, 9" is rare .

How many Ramone we have around?

In a famous video of Brandi Belle, title is "Penis Size", where she meseure Ramone, an expert eye
can confirm that he is about 9" Bone Pressed and it seems huge.

First off if someone has a real 12" why isn't it recorded somewhere? If I had one I would definately get is marked in the record books. So that sounds like junk. Plus my base girth is 6.25 and my wife can;t get her hand around it so I think that would be about it. I am a man and have a hard time myself getting around that. Also my ex has been with 4 guys before me and prob and additional 6 or 7 she has felt up. Girth wise I know for a fact I am the largest. 7 inch girth doesn;t come natural he was either a Penis Enlargement'r or a surgery guy if it is true, and we don;t figure into the average.

girtHydromaxaster said:

First off if someone has a real 12" why isn't it recorded somewhere? If I had one I would definately get is marked in the record books. So that sounds like junk. Plus my base girth is 6.25 and my wife can;t get her hand around it so I think that would be about it. I am a man and have a hard time myself getting around that. Also my ex has been with 4 guys before me and prob and additional 6 or 7 she has felt up. Girth wise I know for a fact I am the largest. 7 inch girth doesn;t come natural he was either a Penis Enlargement'r or a surgery guy if it is true, and we don;t figure into the average.

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You and your wife must both have small hands,my base girth is over 6.5 and my wife can get her hand around it fine,she's a petite 5'2

To be fair there will never be a perfect answer on the average size issues. I seriously doubt that the average would be nearer 8", out of all the studys i have read, not one had these claims. They all seem to claim the average is between 5.5-6.5" EL and 4.75 - 5.25" EG. I lay at around 6.25" EL and i prefer too see myself as at the high end of average rather than just average but thats purly for a confident boost reason. Were you decide to mark average between those measurements is more of a personal preference, however i do feel going dramtically smaller or larger that than them is just being unrealistic.

Scientist or not i doubt anyone can measure consistently purly from looking at a penis or even using hand size. I mean look at the people on this forum, we are some of the most educated people on penis size and yet if you look on the picture proof sections, guess's always have a fairly large range. So imagine a "uneducated" (in pe terms) person guessing these sizes without a ruler, these guess would most likely be way off.

Another point is that women know that guys are consious about penis size, its a wide known fact. With this in mind how many women (no matter how strong a relationship) whould actually ask to measure there partners penis with a ruler. I feel it would be more likely that i women would ask the guy how big he is and as stated above, guys will add a couple of inches onto there orignal size just to avoid ebarisment and whos going to doubt them.

Put it this way say there were 3 guys, A,B and C and they all date the same women through her life. Guy A and B have 6" EL penis and guy C has 7" EL. Now say the women dates Guy A first and asks how big he is and he claims 8" EL when he is infact 6" and she believes this claim. Then she starts going out with guy B and seeing that he is around the same size as her previous partner she presumes is is around 8"EL. Now she dates guy C who is fairly larger than her prevous two partners so she figures he must be around 9-10"EL.
So already this women according to us has had, three big cocks but in truth its been 2 average penises and one fairly large. Oviously the scale of this would be different but im just trying to put it in perspective.

I hope that all kind of makes sense as its hard to explain.

in my time i have shagged quite alot of women before i knew about Penis Enlargement. Size was never an issue to me back then, until i was seeing this one girl who sed her ex was 8inch and it was massive!!! etc etc.

Since then, the topic with girls in town about "size" seems to come up more and more now i know about Penis Enlargement and size!

Most of the girls i talk to in town are slags and they have sed the biggest they had is about 8 and 9 inches. Only ONE girl (who is a know bullshiter and the town bike) said that she has had 12". I KNOW that shes full of shit and its not true. Every week she will txt me and tell me how BIG, HUGE these lads are she slept with!

Now i have a girlfriend, i forget about all this and just concentrate on my goals and not think about all these bullshit comments girls say, because at most they have had 8 and 9" and they cannot measure for shit!!!!

i am about 7.5" and when i fuk my bird hard, it hurts her, she says it hit the back of her. So i think the best size for me to get to is 8" by 6!

Just ignore all these idiot girls.