Dispelling the Myth

kong1971 · Nov 22, 2004

Yeah, if it weren't for the psychic powers I've developed because of FR, I would have given up 8 months ago!

Skepdick, I've been doing this 10 months now. It sucks! It's a hassle and an annoyance. Do you think I would still be doing it if the benefits weren't real.

10 months and my skin is just now finally starting to roll over the glans. Yay! Only 2 years to go! Wahoo!

9cyclops9 · Nov 22, 2004

Skepdick said:
Might want to calm down there bud, you seem to be quite up in arms in more of your posts about FR. And one of the very first things I said on the topic of FR is that I think it is possible and might have some merit.

I guess I did come across kind of pissed off. Sorry about that, I didn't mean to. The thing is, you're wearing my patience down very quickly on this topic. Don't get me wrong, I like you. You're a nice guy, but you keep arguing this, and your arguments make absolutely no sense to me. If you can offer any proof that any of what we say is invalid, please do. But until that point, let our anecdotal evidence be enough. Prove us wrong beyond a doubt, and we'll shut up. Otherwise, we know what benefits are happening to us personally, and nothing you can say will convince us otherwise.

Again, sorry about getting so heated before.

kong1971 · Nov 22, 2004

"I don't believe it," is not a valid argument.

In the real world, subjective perception is just as important, if not more so, than objective perception.

Don't mess with me, skep. My psychic foreskin can kill you with a thought! HydromaxMMMMMMMMMMM! :D

Skepdick · Nov 22, 2004

9Cyclops9, I don't think the fact that people put months/years into this negates my point. I believe penis enlargement works when done properly but there are many people who have been here for years without making gains. I know tha tI got some newbie gains, then I stepped up the intensity and for 2 years I saw no gains (bc I believe I was overworking my dick) but I never gave up. I Penis Enlargement'd for hours and hours most weeks with nothing to show for it.

Skepdick · Nov 22, 2004

9cyclops9 said:
I guess I did come across kind of pissed off. Sorry about that, I didn't mean to. The thing is, you're wearing my patience down very quickly on this topic. Don't get me wrong, I like you. You're a nice guy, but you keep arguing this, and your arguments make absolutely no sense to me.

You tell me that if I don't believe in FR then to keep it to myself and don't read FR posts. Now you repediately post in a thread I have that is clearly doubting SOME of the purported merit to FR, to me this is a double standard, you don't have to read this anymore than I have to read peoples' account of how wonderful FR is. I do appreciate the apology, BTW.

kong1971 · Nov 22, 2004

Okay, everybody...skepdick doesn't believe that foreskin restoration is as big a deal as we claim it to be...next subject!

millionman · Nov 22, 2004

WHO FREAKIN CARES!!!! If you don't believe in FR that's fine, but why does it matter??? Why is it so important for people to speak out a legitimate aspect of penile health. I'm an anatomy and physiology guy...it's my fortay of all the biological studies that I am being put through this thing I call Hell some call it college....The glans is a mucous membrane that if left unprotected does become hardened and sensation is lost through circumsision. There is no such thing as neurons or nerve tissue regenerating unless only slightly damaged. If completely cut off and removed these tissues can not regenerate completely. The tissue that is being grown can contain nerve cells from the existing cells within the healthy shaft skin, meaning some sensation will be returned, but not because of any magical "regeneration". Improved blood flow and increased sensation will most likely improve erection quality and quantity. These are the facts. If you don't believe in FR or any of these physiological facts then that's your deal. The pharisees did not believe the Jesus was the Christ and crucified Him, these are nothing alike, but I just wanted to remind people that sometimes you don't believe in the Truth that's right in front of your face.

raffiki · Nov 22, 2004

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Hmm, well what about some of the members here who have actaully regrown a full coverage such as German Stallion whose FR was accidental and only a result of his Penis Enlargement. He stated that there was no noticable difference in the new level of satisfaction. Makes one wonder...

- Skepdick

That is not even possible. If he is still around I would like to hear from him. He obviously doesn't know what FR. A lot of us have been working along time towards this and he did it accidentally? You misunderstood something or you were misinformed.

I know FR has made me 5 times more sensative.

The ROP gives me better erections and bigger loads.

I haven't found Red's firn, but dangit I want to.

9cyclops9 · Nov 23, 2004

Skepdick said:
You tell me that if I don't believe in FR then to keep it to myself and don't read FR posts. Now you repediately post in a thread I have that is clearly doubting SOME of the purported merit to FR, to me this is a double standard, you don't have to read this anymore than I have to read peoples' account of how wonderful FR is. I do appreciate the apology, BTW.

How is it a double standard? I simply said you don't have to read it if you don't like it. I don't have to read this thread either, but I choose to. It's my perogative. It's also yours if you choose to read FR-related threads, but if you speak out against FR on a FR board, you're not exactly going to be praised for it by the people who post there. Same thing when people come to MOS just to say stuff like "Why are you guys wasting your time with this? It doesn't work and you're all a bunch of freaks." This person is not going to be received well. If what he said had any merit, some people would probably quit. But the people who know that they're getting good results will just blow him off, or argue with him. I know I'm getting good results from FR, so nothing you say will convince me otherwise, and I'm sure it's the same for most of the other guys. And what I usually think when a guy comes to MOS to tell us we're a bunch of morons is "Why do you even waste your time?" And this is my question to you also.

Skepdick · Nov 23, 2004

9cyclops9 said:
How is it a double standard? I simply said you don't have to read it if you don't like it. I don't have to read this thread either, but I choose to. It's my perogative. It's also yours if you choose to read FR-related threads, but if you speak out against FR on a FR board, you're not exactly going to be praised for it by the people who post there. Same thing when people come to MOS just to say stuff like "Why are you guys wasting your time with this? It doesn't work and you're all a bunch of freaks." This person is not going to be received well. If what he said had any merit, some people would probably quit. But the people who know that they're getting good results will just blow him off, or argue with him. I know I'm getting good results from FR, so nothing you say will convince me otherwise, and I'm sure it's the same for most of the other guys. And what I usually think when a guy comes to MOS to tell us we're a bunch of morons is "Why do you even waste your time?" And this is my question to you also.

Well I explained why it is a double standard already. You use the whole "well then don't click on a FR thread if you think its BS" yet you have made a ton of posts in my thread here and if you think I'M full of shit you don't have to read. And once again you're putting words in my mouth, I started this thread by saying that FR does work and that it does have some merit, I just think we disagree on some of the benefits but I never said you were morons who were wasting their time. If you prefer a foreskin, then FR is great for you, I just don't think it should be built up into something that it is not.

Dagger · Nov 23, 2004

All I can say is that I can't imagine how it would be like to be cut. Almost all of my pleasure pre-orgasm comes from my foreskin moving over my glans. If I keep the foreskin away from the glans and just try to move the shaft skin, it just doesn't feel very good.

PS. Never used lubrication.

9cyclops9 · Nov 23, 2004

Skepdick said:
Well I explained why it is a double standard already. You use the whole "well then don't click on a FR thread if you think its BS" yet you have made a ton of posts in my thread here and if you think I'M full of shit you don't have to read. And once again you're putting words in my mouth, I started this thread by saying that FR does work and that it does have some merit, I just think we disagree on some of the benefits but I never said you were morons who were wasting their time. If you prefer a foreskin, then FR is great for you, I just don't think it should be built up into something that it is not.

I think you missed my point. There is no double standard. I said you don't have to click on FR threads. And I don't have to click on this thread. And I went on to say it's our choice whether we do or not. So tell me, how is this a double standard? The thing is, I clicked on this thread because you came onto the FR board attacking us, and trying to convince us that we don't know what we're talking about, that FR doesn't have all the benefits we say it does. But we don't go onto the main board and try to force our ideas down your throat, do we? I stay in this thread to defend myself and other FR people. What is your reason for reading the FR threads? So you can get worked up and then come to tell us we're wasting our time?

You did imply that we are wasting our time, BTW. You said "never underestimate the power of stupid/naive people in large groups." You went on to say that you weren't implying that we were unintelligent, but that many people were going along with the "cult-like mentality" and praising FR, whether it's working or not. So if you're not calling us morons who are wasting our time, then what did this post mean? You're implying that some of the people can't think for themselves (going along with the cult-like mentality), and that what they are doing is not productive (praising FR whether it works or not), hence, they are wasting their time.

kong1971 · Nov 23, 2004

I'll settle this argument real fast.

Skepdick, if you doubt some of the claims we are making, I suggest you cross tape your skin over your glans for four to 12 weeks (if you can--don't know how tight you are!). In that time, since this is such a slow process, you will probably get a little slack, but your glans will begin to DK by then and you should get some of the benefits we are talking about.

If you are unwilling to do so, then you should not spout off uneducated opinions.

I can talk about Penis Enlargement and FR all I want. I do it.

If you are unwilling to experiment with it, how can you feel you have any right to comment on it, good or bad? For all you know (in your ignorance) every single thing we claim could be true, and more. You won't know unless you try.

As far as what GS is rumored to have said...he got his skin from using a vacuum pump. Vacuum pumps are infamous for causing nerve damage, loss of sensation, etc. It COULD be the reason he doesn't see much difference. PS-- I can talk about vacuum pumping, too. I've done it!

TheExecutioner · Nov 23, 2004

Maybe this thread should be locked now kong? It is going around in circles with nothing informative in it what so ever, just unsupported claims that Fr doesnt work.

iwant8inches · Nov 23, 2004

Skepdick said:
Female circumcision is a whole different animal when compared to male circumcision and the two should not be used interchangeably. Female circumcision refers to cutting off the clitoris which has been widely believed to be the source of all or most of the sensation a woman feels during sex. The vast majority of women cannot orgasm without direct clitoral stimulation. In the womb, all embryos start out essentially the same, and the presence of a Y chromosome triggers testosterone which causes the clitoris to develop into a penis. Clearly one could argue very easily that female circumcision is sexual mutilation (the 2 terms are often used synonymously), but the equivalent for males would be to cut off the entire penis! I hope that the distinction that I am trying to draw has been made clear here. Cutting off the foreskin of a male and cutting off the clit of a woman are both labelled "circumcision" but they are completely different operations, the word "circumcision" is a homonym, meaning that it is a word spelled the same way but with several meanings dictated by whether or not you are talking about a male or female. I am cut and function just fine, and I will admit, that if I had had my dick chopped off at birth I would have grown up to be rather upset about it but this is not the issue at hand.

And I don't get your argument that circumcision is an issue of me and other people discriminating against men, it's hardly a double standard. In real life I am actually considered to be somewhat of a mysogynst and would never stand for something that was gender biased against men and used to suppress us. Your discrimination claim is merely a shock technique.

To me it just shows that the penis circ is the lesser of the two evils though. They both shouldn't be done.

iwant8inches · Nov 23, 2004

9cyclops9 said:
Well it wouldn't protect against HIV/AIDS, but it would protect vs infections and the like.

lol, yeah I don't what the hell I was talking about then.

iwant8inches · Nov 23, 2004

doublelongdaddy said:
Not to go too off-topic here but the thing about the ROP is many paying customers were reporting these changes and/or gains made with the product. If you look over the ROP threads you will see that many people were praising its effectiveness. Mass-Hysteria? Who knows but for a minute it came across as the best thing since sliced bread.

yeah, but the comparison of the two (FR and ROP even if what is said is that it is not quite the same) just doesn't register with me. I understand the claim parallel but the cost? No way is it the same and to me that pisses me off more than anything else lol is when people pay for something and don't get what they paid for. You take a chance when buy anything and I know you get what you pay for, but when hype like that surrounds a product and the claims are as sensational sounding as they were it's easy to forget how practical a product it really was and then you come down to earth and realize it's not going to work the same for everyone or work at all for some. By then it's a complete turnoff and you're out money. I don't have any experience with the ROP so I'm not saying anything about it's effectiveness. All I can tell is that individual results vary. I'm speaking to the comparison to FR and ROP, but also more to the general affect of feeling you were jipped after having your hopes up. And to clarify even more just because that last sentence is in the same post as the ROP I'm not directing anything towards it. Please make no assertions toward this post based on the idea I am implying anything negatively to that product. I was going with a generalizing/scenario thing here. So, I don't want to see any askant looks my way.

iwant8inches · Nov 23, 2004

doublelongdaddy said:
I though Denial was a river in Egypt:D

It is. It perpetuates north into DaSea.

bluerock53 · Nov 24, 2004

I think Skep is a mole from �other forum� trying to sow discord.

Skepdick · Nov 24, 2004

bluerock53 said:
I think Skep is a mole from �other forum� trying to sow discord.

Yup, I came here 2.5 months ago, built up over 150 posts and spent hours discussing many different aspects of Penis Enlargement just to gain credibility so I can come here and rock the boat, you figured me out! Congrats!

On the contrary bud, you have only a handful of posts and most of them are shit like the one I quoted. Off topic, and only trying to make anyone discrediting FR look like as ass.

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