Bib's LOT Theory

srettam,

>I been Pe for apox.2 years.I gained 2 inchs in L. 1 inch in girth,lot 8.30.Question to Bib,should i still hang down.NOW 8x6 inchs<

Congrats on the gains. At 8:30, I would say you still have potential for gains from lig stretch. Did you do the palpation test to see how far your current exit point if from the bottom of your pubic bone?

Bigger

@Bib,

when do you think somebody should hang straight out.
Im asking this because when your Lot is high you should hang btc to get liq gains.If your lot is very low you should hang ots.
When should somebody hang straight out?
This angle makes no sense to me because in my opinion the extreme angles ots and btc seems to be the best angles in my opinion.

dex,

>when do you think somebody should hang straight out.
Im asking this because when your Lot is high you should hang btc to get liq gains.If your lot is very low you should hang ots.
When should somebody hang straight out?<

SO is a great secondary angle when the primary angle is either OTS or BTC. IOW, if you become totally fatigued hanging at one of the extreme angles, you may be able to continue with your session at the SO angle. Further, SO stresses a different set of tissues, and/or at varying amounts of stress. Therefore, SO is a good angle of hang on it's on merits. Many guys have gained just from hanging SO.

I found that I experienced different stresses with approximately any 30 degree change in hanging angle.

Bigger

I want to say that i found out that you can change the results of the lot test by changing the strenght of the stretch.
In my case it seems, the less force i put in the stretch the lower my lot is.
The more force i use, the higer my lot is.

Im asking me right now, which force should be used?Should i pull my unit to the point where i feel the resistence, this means i stretch my penis to the maximum.
With maximum i do not mean the same maximum i would get when im doing a stretching routine when im up for lenght gains.When im stretching for lenght gains, im getting over this maximum or over the resistance because i put all my force in.
Hope you will understand what i mean with resistence or maximum.

dex,

>I want to say that i found out that you can change the results of the lot test by changing the strenght of the stretch.
In my case it seems, the less force i put in the stretch the lower my lot is.
The more force i use, the higer my lot is.

Im asking me right now, which force should be used?Should i pull my unit to the point where i feel the resistence, this means i stretch my penis to the maximum.
With maximum i do not mean the same maximum i would get when im doing a stretching routine when im up for lenght gains.When im stretching for lenght gains, im getting over this maximum or over the resistance because i put all my force in.
Hope you will understand what i mean with resistence or maximum.<

You simply grasp by the tip of the penis, and use enough force to stretch out the shaft. It is not a great amount of force. Only enough to be able to see the tugback from the kegal, if it is possible.

Bigger

Bib said:

You simply grasp by the tip of the penis, and use enough force to stretch out the shaft. It is not a great amount of force. Only enough to be able to see the tugback from the kegal, if it is possible.
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But here is the problem.
When i stretch my unit 50-70 percent out, i get a different result from when im doing this test with a 80 percent,90 percent or 100 percent stretched out penis,like i described in my last posting.Again,100 percent doesnt mean that i stretch my penis like i would do when im doing a hanging or a stretching routine.
Hope you see the problem.

dex,

>When i stretch my unit 50-70 percent out, i get a different result from when im doing this test with a 80 percent,90 percent or 100 percent stretched out penis,like i described in my last posting.Again,100 percent doesnt mean that i stretch my penis like i would do when im doing a hanging or a stretching routine.
Hope you see the problem.<

I don't believe I have ever said this before, but I do not think I can help you.

Bigger

Bigger,

It may be me but I don't understand your answer to the question. Are you able to explain your response too the question Thanks.

GMJ

I got it now Bigger, sorry for stuff arsing you around.

GMJ

so to say it short?, pull your dick straight up pointing towards the stars and do a kegel ,if it tugs back into the hairy area more than it does if you do the exact same thing in other positions from 6:00 to 11:00 ,then youre loss of thug is where?

I think a video (visual explanation) would be good for Bib's theory. Something for the visual learners out there. Any volunteers? lol

i hold uli grip over my head pull it out and squeeze pc muscle, moving from straight up to the ground,but it tugs back best at top but also at bottom

Bib,

How do you measure LOT, sitting or standing?

I got the following:

Sitting 8:30
Standing 6:30

I measured standing because you can see the angles better.
Assuming the I am sitting straight, I would prefer this measurement beacuse this would give me potential for gains.

At the moment I am only hanging straight down for simplicity and to condition me unit. After enough research and understanding I would like ot move to some other streatch angles based on my lot.

big-wish,

why don't you use your fingers to palpate the amount of inner penis you've got. Feel from the exit point of the shaft from the skin all the way to the bottom of the pubic bone. This way you can get a better idea of roughly how much potential you've got.

big wish,

>How do you measure LOT, sitting or standing?<

I would say standing is more accurate.

Bigger

Bib said:

>You always said that almost everybody can gain by tunica stretching.
But now lets imagine a guy who is always hanging the upper angles, lets say the reason for this is because he likes it so much.
The common theory is now, that he will gain a lot over time because tunica work leads to unlimitetd lenght gains.
But can it be that after a certain time and some gains he will stop gaining due to tight liqs?In other words, if this guy is not changing his angle to downward hanging, he will never gain?<

I would not use the word never. But if a guy were able to stretch/grow his inner tunica enough, the ligs could begin to take some stress when hanging at the upper angles. As with anything, you should hang at the upper angles in moderation. When you no longer can feel or see progress, change the angle.
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Does this mean that if you are always hanging upwards and your lot raises, lets say to 10 o clock, and you are continuing upward hanging like ots, your ligs are taking the stress and you are doing lig work and therefor you are lowering/lengthen your ligs and will gain by this?
If this is correct, your exit point will also lower or will it stay at same place or may be rise?

Some other questions which fit into this threat:

Do you know if upward hanging will raise your exit point and/or your erection angle?

Do you know what determines the shape of a penis, i mean upward/downward curve ot straight out with no curve?

Do you know if there is any correlation between erection angle and shape?
For example upward curve and high erection level or downward curve and low erection level.

When you are hanging downward you are lowering your exit point. Does it mean that you are also lowering your erection level?

dex,

>Does this mean that if you are always hanging upwards and your lot raises, lets say to 10 o clock, and you are continuing upward hanging like ots, your ligs are taking the stress and you are doing lig work and therefor you are lowering/lengthen your ligs and will gain by this?<

No. I cannot imagine a situation where a guy could apply effective stress to the ligs, enough to deform the ligs, by hanging OTS. However, I believe it would be possible for the ligs to take away some of the stress which is targeted for the tunica, if a guy spent enough time hanging OTS. Remember, you are trying to target certain structures with dedicated stress. No shotgun approach. Divide and conquer.

>Do you know if upward hanging will raise your exit point and/or your erection angle?<

It has been often reported to raise LOT angle, possibly exit point to an extent. But erection angle depends more on the shape of the tunica.

>Do you know what determines the shape of a penis, i mean upward/downward curve ot straight out with no curve?<

The shape of the tunica.

>Do you know if there is any correlation between erection angle and shape?<

Yes, they are obviously correlated.

>For example upward curve and high erection level or downward curve and low erection level.<

Obviously.

>When you are hanging downward you are lowering your exit point. Does it mean that you are also lowering your erection level?<

I thought so before doing the research for LOT. But the stats showed no correlation between LOT and erection angle. It appears to have more to do with gravity and tunica shape.

Bigger

Bib said:

dex,
>When you are hanging downward you are lowering your exit point. Does it mean that you are also lowering your erection level?<

I thought so before doing the research for LOT. But the stats showed no correlation between LOT and erection angle. It appears to have more to do with gravity and tunica shape.
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Ok. But there are a lot of people who are reporting a lower erection level after downward hanging. Some people are arguing that the ligs are holding the shaft up against the pubic bone. When your are lengthen your ligs, they are not strong anymore to hold the shaft up against the pubice bone, this leads to a lower erection level.

2 more questions i forgot to ask you last time.

When you are hanging downward so that the ligs become longer, does this mean you will loose erection stability. With stability i mean not hardness. When im talking about less stability i mean that the penis when erect behaves more like a penis when flaccid. For example when the penis is flaccid and you move your hip from right to left, the penis is whipping from the left to the right side. When you are erect you can not do this because the erect penis didnt move to the sides or downward.
Hope you know now what i mean with stability, kind of a rigidity thing.

Does downward hanging has an impact on the penis shape? For example will it correct an upward curve so that the penis becomes more straight?

dex,

Good questions.

>Ok. But there are a lot of people who are reporting a lower erection level after downward hanging. Some people are arguing that the ligs are holding the shaft up against the pubic bone. When your are lengthen your ligs, they are not strong anymore to hold the shaft up against the pubice bone, this leads to a lower erection level.<

I agree with the premise. This was surely true for myself. As my shaft was pulled away from the pubic bone, my erection level lowered. But also, it was a matter of age reduced erection hardness, and gravity. The longer fulcrum, and greater weight of the shaft, further from the body, would naturally tend to lower the angle.

But overall, considering many different ages of respondants, many different tunica shapes, the stats did not indicate a great corellation between a lower LOT and lower EA.

>When you are hanging downward so that the ligs become longer, does this mean you will loose erection stability. With stability i mean not hardness. When im talking about less stability i mean that the penis when erect behaves more like a penis when flaccid. For example when the penis is flaccid and you move your hip from right to left, the penis is whipping from the left to the right side. When you are erect you can not do this because the erect penis didnt move to the sides or downward.
Hope you know now what i mean with stability, kind of a rigidity thing.<

I understand. The trend will be, as the shaft is pulled lower, for less stability. This is due not only to fewer strands of ligs inhibiting the shaft, but also the fact that the longer, larger exposed shaft will create more momentum when moved.

Even with much more shaft outside the body, a much larger mass outside the body, I still have a great deal of stability. Plenty to perform at any angle, even at my age.

>Does downward hanging has an impact on the penis shape? For example will it correct an upward curve so that the penis becomes more straight?<

It depends on exactly the force applied to the TUNICA. If a fulcrum is applied to the top of the shaft, the tunica will tend to curve upward. If the fulcrum is applied to the bottom of the shaft, the tunica will end to curve downward. If the stress is applied uniformly out, it will tend to straighten any curve. This has often been reported.

Bigger

Bib said:

dex,
>Does downward hanging has an impact on the penis shape? For example will it correct an upward curve so that the penis becomes more straight?<

It depends on exactly the force applied to the TUNICA. If a fulcrum is applied to the top of the shaft, the tunica will tend to curve upward. If the fulcrum is applied to the bottom of the shaft, the tunica will end to curve downward. If the stress is applied uniformly out, it will tend to straighten any curve. This has often been reported.
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So when i hang in a btc or downward position, it will have no effect on the shape of the penis because im only doing lig work and no tunica work?
Or in other words, only tunica stretching or hanging has some effects on the shape of the penis (upward or downward curve).

Do you know which impact ots hanging has on the shape of the penis? Im asking because ots hits the tunica pretty well.