fonic;483004 said:
i bought this vitallisplus when it first came out over a year ago i think it was, i didn't last long with it before it gathered dust, i bought it with the intension to wear it while sleeping

i couldn't do it, it was like sleeping with a tent sticking out your body, but worse than that for me was the tube has such a thin lip, it would cause great discomfort to the ball sac

over a period of hours it slowly gave me sac burn, couldn't get any sleep rendering the device useless for me.

Hey fonic I figured that would be the case but am hoping to get a few hours in during the day and then maybe a couple while sleeping or watching a movie right after my evening hanging session. So from what I wrote above does it sound like my pump is faulty or I'm just not getting a good seal?
 
forSmybaby;483005 said:
Hey fonic I figured that would be the case but am hoping to get a few hours in during the day and then maybe a couple while sleeping or watching a movie right after my evening hanging session. So from what I wrote above does it sound like my pump is faulty or I'm just not getting a good seal?

it will be a very light suction, don't expect more than that, it does give great no fluid expansion but it has to be worn for hours before it reaches that stage, are you sinking in enough hours consecutively to experiences this and lubes the base to give a good seal

once its on it should have great grip and not come off unless you choose so, the only way i found to combat the sac burn was to use it while awake, and constantly readjust and pull the sac back out from tube, but gave up cause i was sacrificing length work

doing this in evening, you need 8 hours a day in that thing.
 
fonic;483006 said:
it will be a very light suction, don't expect more than that, it does give great no fluid expansion but it has to be worn for hours before it reaches that stage, are you sinking in enough hours consecutively to experiences this and lubes the base to give a good seal

once its on it should have great grip and not come off unless you choose so, the only way i found to combat the sac burn was to use it while awake, and constantly readjust and pull the sac back out from tube, but gave up cause i was sacrificing length work

doing this in evening, you need 8 hours a day in that thing.

It is definitely a light light suction. I used lube but to no avail, I had short pubic hair but last night I shaved it so will try again today and see what happens. It would not stay on even when I pushed the base down for a good 30 seconds then let go it just comes off. That is why I suspect either I'm not getting a seal or the pump does not work!

On another note, thanks for the ball sack tips. Lets hope I have better luck than you did because this was supposed to be my "healing in an extended state" device but by the sounds of it its another uncomfortable Penis Enlargement device (aren't they all!?!)
 
forSmybaby;483007 said:
It is definitely a light light suction. I used lube but to no avail, I had short pubic hair but last night I shaved it so will try again today and see what happens. It would not stay on even when I pushed the base down for a good 30 seconds then let go it just comes off. That is why I suspect either I'm not getting a seal or the pump does not work!

On another note, thanks for the ball sack tips. Lets hope I have better luck than you did because this was supposed to be my "healing in an extended state" device but by the sounds of it its another uncomfortable Penis Enlargement device (aren't they all!?!)

persevere bro, eliminate all possible problems, your line been blocked anything, failing that get on the blower and get a replacement pronto, if it works correctly you don't even need a hardon entering it

it does it all for you sooks you in, i hope you get it working man nobody likes downtime trying to build a monster cock!
 
fonic;483008 said:
i hope you get it working man nobody likes downtime trying to build a monster cock!

haha you're feeling my frustration exactly!.. I already emailed them yesterday about the pump but have not heard back yet. I tried again but it definitely does not suck me in! Everything seems sealed and there's no kinks in the tubing so I guess I'll put it to a side and get back to hanging!
 
Problem solved!.. Turns out they had fitted the pressure valve the wrong way round, so the suction was terminating there. I took it out and used without for an hour. Now I have put it back in the right way round. Thanks to Fonic and TMJ for your input guys much appreciated.

So my initial thoughts are pretty impressive. The suction/pump is very mild but it does the job by slowly expanding your dick. Only did an hour to test but I could have gone much longer. I can see what fonic is saying as I did start to feel a tingle on the right side of the seal and suspect that after two hours it could get worse and become too irritating on the ball sack. However the suction is too light so the base does not dig in too hard. After getting out I could see that my dick was nicely fattened, not the post pump look I would imagine other pumpers get but it seems to work in keeping my dick engorged. No signs of any kind of swelling or retention or blisters but I assume I wouldn't have got that from the 1st time using any pump.

I plan to try it again tonight for at least 2hrs and see what happens. Will be sure to report back in this thread incase anyone is interested ;)
 
Glad it worked out forSmybaby
 
forSmybaby;483014 said:
Problem solved!.. Turns out they had fitted the pressure valve the wrong way round, so the suction was terminating there. I took it out and used without for an hour. Now I have put it back in the right way round. Thanks to Fonic and TMJ for your input guys much appreciated.

So my initial thoughts are pretty impressive. The suction/pump is very mild but it does the job by slowly expanding your dick. Only did an hour to test but I could have gone much longer. I can see what fonic is saying as I did start to feel a tingle on the right side of the seal and suspect that after two hours it could get worse and become too irritating on the ball sack. However the suction is too light so the base does not dig in too hard. After getting out I could see that my dick was nicely fattened, not the post pump look I would imagine other pumpers get but it seems to work in keeping my dick engorged. No signs of any kind of swelling or retention or blisters but I assume I wouldn't have got that from the 1st time using any pump.

I plan to try it again tonight for at least 2hrs and see what happens. Will be sure to report back in this thread incase anyone is interested ;)


i love a happy ending lol glad to hear your finally enjoying your new toy fella, keep us updated on how you get on in the coming weeks, one point of note i remember there being an issue on how to clean the the inside of the tube

little droplets form inside tube and its hard to clean i think mold was the concern, i used to follow the penisdicke.de site at the time nobody could come up with an easy solution for cleaning, i'd imagine thats sorted now though.
 
fonic;483111 said:
i love a happy ending lol glad to hear your finally enjoying your new toy fella, keep us updated on how you get on in the coming weeks, one point of note i remember there being an issue on how to clean the the inside of the tube

little droplets form inside tube and its hard to clean i think mold was the concern, i used to follow the penisdicke.de site at the time nobody could come up with an easy solution for cleaning, i'd imagine thats sorted now though.

Thanks guys and Exactlly Fonic! I pulled the tube off without bothering to release the pressure gauge or disconnect the pump. So some lube got sucked in-between the tube and the sleeve. I spent a considerable amount of time filling the tube with water through the tiny hole so I could get the lube out and the inside cleaned. I gave no thought as to how the hell I could dry it out!

So now there are lots of water droplets inside. I tried hanging the tube over the radiator to get some evaporation going But figured that by the time it dries, the sleeve would have contorted from the heat. Also the hole at the top of the tube is too small and would result in condensation. Thanks for the site reference, will check it out and see what I can find.

Did a 2hr session last night and came out feeling lovely. Hope to make use of this device, will keep you updated either way haha
 
Spent another hour and a half in it last night, this time I got a much better seal and my post pump flaccid hang was huge. It stayed that way all night and most of today. Thanks again fonic for the forum link, they have a thread about it there with 1871 posts so far! some guys are claiming to have gained considerably using nothing else but this pump (who know eh). Anyway they manage to sleep soundly with it when using a super soft silicone cuff thing (the type made for other pumps) as this eliminates any base pain and sack skin 'pinch' as Fonic put it. So since you already have one (and it is quite expensive), you might want to dust it and give it another try!?

On another note, the Germans often call their penis a "tail" haha
 
forSmybaby;483201 said:
Spent another hour and a half in it last night, this time I got a much better seal and my post pump flaccid hang was huge. It stayed that way all night and most of today. Thanks again fonic for the forum link, they have a thread about it there with 1871 posts so far! some guys are claiming to have gained considerably using nothing else but this pump (who know eh). Anyway they manage to sleep soundly with it when using a super soft silicone cuff thing (the type made for other pumps) as this eliminates any base pain and sack skin 'pinch' as Fonic put it. So since you already have one (and it is quite expensive), you might want to dust it and give it another try!?

On another note, the Germans often call their penis a "tail" haha

yeah no probs its a great thread for anyone that has this device, any chance you can link me or tell me the name of the cuff they are using? i would have thought anything you add to the base would interfere with the inner condom, must be cool though

if i could get that i would give it a go trying to sleep with it again, on a decon break still just now and want to come back hanging for length, is the girth work not interfering with your length part hanging attachment points? i remember when you come out the

vitallusplus your TAIL be so heavy it felt great takes much longer than normal pumping to go back down, imo thats the real way to get pumping gains sinking many hours per night at low vac it makes so much sense.
 
fonic;483227 said:
yeah no probs its a great thread for anyone that has this device, any chance you can link me or tell me the name of the cuff they are using? i would have thought anything you add to the base would interfere with the inner condom, must be cool though

if i could get that i would give it a go trying to sleep with it again, on a decon break still just now and want to come back hanging for length, is the girth work not interfering with your length part hanging attachment points? i remember when you come out the

vitallusplus your TAIL be so heavy it felt great takes much longer than normal pumping to go back down, imo thats the real way to get pumping gains sinking many hours per night at low vac it makes so much sense.

Here's the link

http://translate.googleusercontent....sr=8-1&usg=ALkJrhh2TzREb_Ii7nAYtf4HHjCKkBIMZw

Let me know if it doesn't work! It is from the German Amazon so I am trying to find one here. Looks like it stretches to fit and because the base is thick and soft it does not dig in as much.

Yes makes a lot of sense to me too. You hear so much about Penis Enlargementrs trying to induce long periods of erections to promote growth (even injecting their CCs and stuff!). They talk about how much a 3hr erection can help growth so imagine having 8hrs of engorged penis every day without any injections or chemicals. With regards to hanging it has been ok. My heavy 'tail' takes ages to go down. But I only manage 2hrs so far and it is before I go to sleep, so by the time I start hanging the next afternoon/evening, it is just about back to normal (or good enough to hang anyway)
 
have a look at these i buy from this place, awesome customer service and tubes, i have two of the silicone cuffs on this link already, i wonder if they will work.

just to add using those cuffs on my thickwall cylinder, there is no comparison comfort wise, an absolute must!



http://www.thickwall.co.uk/accessories.htm
 
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If you're talking about the clear ones then they look perfect, pretty much the same as the ones I linked you. Might buy one myself, you should give it a shot and let me know
 
forSmybaby;483241 said:
If you're talking about the clear ones then they look perfect, pretty much the same as the ones I linked you. Might buy one myself, you should give it a shot and let me know

for sure you have really spiked my interest in using this device again, after a miserable year focusing on length only this might just be what the doctor ordered, my concern using the cuffs was it would

interfere with the condom not having a tight seal at the base cause of the added silicone thickness inside the tube.
 
Well if your cuff is like the one recommended, it should be very stretchy yet keep a tight seal around your tail's base. The Germans did report a slight loss in vacuum, but rather than the silicone thickness inside the tube, it was due to the seal between the cylinder and the cuff (if that makes sense? or is that exactly what you meant haha). As in the base of the cylinder seals better with your skin than is does with the silicone. Anyway most of them said it was negligible, so they first put the cuff on their tail then slide the cylinder in place. However a few of the 'perfectionists' took the condom off, glued the cuff to the cylinder then glued the condom back onto the cuff
 
forSmybaby;483245 said:
Well if your cuff is like the one recommended, it should be very stretchy yet keep a tight seal around your tail's base. The Germans did report a slight loss in vacuum, but rather than the silicone thickness inside the tube, it was due to the seal between the cylinder and the cuff (if that makes sense? or is that exactly what you meant haha). As in the base of the cylinder seals better with your skin than is does with the silicone. Anyway most of them said it was negligible, so they first put the cuff on their tail then slide the cylinder in place. However a few of the 'perfectionists' took the condom off, glued the cuff to the cylinder then glued the condom back onto the cuff

Yes thats clear as mud!!!! nah seriously i get that, ill do some experimentation with this tonight and let you know if it works and if its worth you getting the one i have, hope it does cause it feels like a comfy pillow on your TAILS base hehe
 
sounds good, definitely let me know.

As my german brother say:

Greetings and Gains
 
i tried it last night for a couple of hours the cuff fits perfect and no loss off suction............but i had the same problems with the burning sensation after an hour and it kept niggling away at

me for the rest of the time i spent in it, i only get the burn in this tube must be related to the length of time your in the vital cause normal pumping your nowhere near using as long a time in one sitting.

great idea if you can put up with the minor niggles, even doing a couple of hours you get a great hang afterwards.
 
What a shame fonic!.. I know what you mean about the flaccid hang, I can just about bare 2hrs and by that time I have to really pull the cylinder off my fat, thick, heavy tail. After which I do a good 200 jelqs. Did the same last night

I also read that some guys where putting silicone seals on the end (the type used to seal your bathroom appliances). So maybe give that a go, although seems like you say it is a question of the time spent rather than anything else. I am not sure to bother getting a cuff anymore or stick with 2hr sessions!
 
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