I get hard erections just not spontaneous ones I have to use manual stim. I think that is to do with the over ejaculation and adult entertainment consumption. I have an addictive personality because I'm from a family of chemical addiction, never fell to that one but chronic masturbation has always been a hobby ;) eight hours is a mark I hat at 8 years old hahaha. I would get home from school eat then go to my room rub it and skip homework hahahaha. I don;t know what the age is for most of you but I started seeing semen when I was ~9-10.

I think my solution is to cut out the adult entertainment and focus on caring about the person and dump beating it for a period of time while focusing on kegels and maybe pe. Oh and an exercise routine which will help raise free testosterone anyway.
Regarding for cleaning the pipes I don't worry about that as I don't have a refractory period so I am happy to cum too quickly during sex and then just put on a new condom also I can edge can cum without ejaculation and I can prevent ejaculation by tightening my pc muscles.
 
doublelongdaddy;420549 said:
Wow, it looks like over masturbation has a lot of the same properties as heroin addiction, very interesting. Over production of acetylcholine, dopamine and serotonin all occur when someone becomes addicted to the drug making the user depressed, weak, tired, unable to feel normal emotions, etc. Very strange association but true.

but what if i have to do it everyday not really for pleasure but so i wont get a erection when i stretch? you told me to do it everyday till i dont have to.
 
jose-s;452906 said:
but what if i have to do it everyday not really for pleasure but so i wont get a erection when i stretch? you told me to do it everyday till i dont have to.

Once per day is enough, try to schedule it right before length work.
 
doublelongdaddy;453066 said:
Once per day is enough, try to schedule it right before length work.

but then i have the problem getting a hard on to jelq. i need help. i get a erection, it just takes a good 5-10 minutes of playing with it.
 
jose-s;453089 said:
but then i have the problem getting a hard on to jelq. i need help. i get a erection, it just takes a good 5-10 minutes of playing with it.

Do girth work first, shoot off, do length last.
 
doublelongdaddy;453093 said:
Do girth work first, shoot off, do length last.

ok. thanks. ive been doing pe for a while now and ive been starting to see a few results, longer, a slight bit, and thicker, my goal is to get thick to fit the condom ive been saving cuz it looks so thick. ive noticed, today, a very slight purple mark on my head. is that normal? it doesnt hurt, it feels normal, but i guess its cuz the blood stays in the head when i hold the strech.
 
Very interesting thread on what a persons thinks what is too much. I find now that I am getting older my refractory period went from hours to now days before I get sufficient Eq quality. But this seems it is always different per person.
I can't do what I did when I was in my early 20's like having sex periods lasting for almost 7 hours on and off
I have read too much masturbation can even lead to chronic fatigue like symptoms and ringing in the ears. Good topic to research guys thanks for the info.
 
yonni3998;534028 said:
Very interesting thread on what a persons thinks what is too much. I find now that I am getting older my refractory period went from hours to now days before I get sufficient Eq quality. But this seems it is always different per person.
I can't do what I did when I was in my early 20's like having sex periods lasting for almost 7 hours on and off
I have read too much masturbation can even lead to chronic fatigue like symptoms and ringing in the ears. Good topic to research guys thanks for the info.



I added on forum strictly on masturbation.
 
hepcat;534955 said:
Good idea DLD. It seems the mass hysteria of beating off has hit this site with full force. Obsess much?:P

Yup. I hope to get all the threads moved by tomorrow. It is a big job so I need a solid 3-4 hours to get done. Maybe late night tonight, I will see where I am at. It will be a very, very beneficial way to organize this topic...much confusion and a definite need for greater comprehension.
 
RUBY10";536275 said:
Hey guys do you think too much masturbation could lead to penis curvature.

Curvature by way of excess masturbation? I would assume highly unlikely unless you're masturbating in such a way to inflicting damage in a specific area, repeatedly, causing severe curvature (peyronie's disease) along with some other side effects. Normal curvature is most likely genetic and may become more pronounced as your penis grows.
 
RUBY10";536275 said:
Hey guys do you think too much masturbation could lead to penis curvature.


Only if the masturbation was forcibly against the erectile tissue. It would need to be a pretty deliberate effort.
 
i will usually masterbate once or twice a day, which may have been ok to do when younger, but now that ive reached being 40yo i should start cutting down on it. feeling tired, deflating like a balloon, are my two biggest things after ejaculation. i also shy away from social contact and just keep to myself. i used to be a people person but now i just want to keep to myself. after reading this i will definitly be cutting down on it and see how i feel.
 
notthebradys;540559 said:
i will usually masterbate once or twice a day, which may have been ok to do when younger, but now that ive reached being 40yo i should start cutting down on it. feeling tired, deflating like a balloon, are my two biggest things after ejaculation. i also shy away from social contact and just keep to myself. i used to be a people person but now i just want to keep to myself. after reading this i will definitly be cutting down on it and see how i feel.

I am finding that one time per week is the best I can do. I can't make it longer than this. I can say, the more time there is between orgasm, the more intense they are.
 
yeah i know how more intense they are, and i try not to do it so much so when the wife and i have sex the orgasm would be more intense. i guess id be labeled as addicted to adult entertainment, because every free chance i get i turn on the adult entertainment and start masterbating. even though i know the wife would enjoy me having a more intense orgasm i still watch the adult entertainment any chance i can.
 
notthebradys;540595 said:
yeah i know how more intense they are, and i try not to do it so much so when the wife and i have sex the orgasm would be more intense. i guess id be labeled as addicted to adult entertainment, because every free chance i get i turn on the adult entertainment and start masterbating. even though i know the wife would enjoy me having a more intense orgasm i still watch the adult entertainment any chance i can.



This is where the problem lies, masturbation should not take the place of your wife unless she is not living up to her duties as a wife. In my own belief system, if I were with a girl and I was still using adult entertainment and masturbation for sex, it would be very disrespectful to her. When I was in my last relationship we just agreed to not masturbate and depend on each other for this.
 
Ezskanken;541483 said:
Damn, I need to slow it down lol. Good read though, thanks for posting.

Never a problem. Like many men, we all struggle with masturbation and the temptations that drive this. I pray for the obsession to be lifted and to some degree it has. I am always trying to be more worthy in the eyes of God and that is my reason but others may have different reasons. The point is, we can not allow any pleasure to become too powerful. Abstinence and Discipline are very important to the mastery of any pleasure.
 
doublelongdaddy;541740 said:
Never a problem. Like many men, we all struggle with masturbation and the temptations that drive this. I pray for the obsession to be lifted and to some degree it has. I am always trying to be more worthy in the eyes of God and that is my reason but others may have different reasons. The point is, we can not allow any pleasure to become too powerful. Abstinence and Discipline are very important to the mastery of any pleasure.

Bro, I have no reason to lie. But I too have been asking God for help in this "addiction". I swear it all started from watching adult entertainment, which I can honestly say I have a problem with as well. I am slowly getting better, and one day with the help of God I will no longer need it. Started attending church with my wife and kids, 4 weeks straight for me ha ha. Spent 7 years in the catholic school system, and then 10 years wandering through life afterwards. I do pray that one day soon, I will completely kick this urge, and be more of a faithful man...

DLD, thank you for being so open and honest. Rarely seen in life, especially on the internet. Truly appreciate all your efforts toward this board.
 
Ezskanken;542011 said:
Bro, I have no reason to lie. But I too have been asking God for help in this "addiction". I swear it all started from watching adult entertainment, which I can honestly say I have a problem with as well. I am slowly getting better, and one day with the help of God I will no longer need it. Started attending church with my wife and kids, 4 weeks straight for me ha ha. Spent 7 years in the catholic school system, and then 10 years wandering through life afterwards. I do pray that one day soon, I will completely kick this urge, and be more of a faithful man...

DLD, thank you for being so open and honest. Rarely seen in life, especially on the internet. Truly appreciate all your efforts toward this board.

Best to you. Keep with it.
 
I guess masturbation must perform whenever you feel the need to release stress and not every time you get bored. Excessive masturbation can also prevent you from having a normal and healthy relationship.

Be safe!
 
It has been shown that semen contains 60 times the nutrients of its own weight in blood. Therefore excessive masturbation being more frequent than about once a month would dramatically affect your gains because it would sap your precious testosterone, and since testosterone is what initiates growth during puberty in the first place it is pretty darn important, I would hold off on ejaculating and retaining that amount of vital nutrients should seriously help your gains as the semen you retain is recirculated through the prostate and vas deferans nourishing the brain, nerves, joints, muscles and immune system.

I am not suggesting the abandonment of any sexual activity though, just the reduction in ejaculation frequency. You don't use it you lose it! History's greatest men would practice semen retention along with tantric sex to help circulate their sexual energy without dissipating it to maintain higher testosterone. For this purpose of recirculating your energy witout disipating it I would suggest following this program and/or the male deer exercise for the greatest results in the least amount of time. :)
 
So what is the recommended amount to masturbate? Because I want to know, because I'm seeming to do it a mixture of a every day, to every other day or two to every other week, so it's not really consistent :/
 
GeoKnight94;555661 said:
So what is the recommended amount to masturbate? Because I want to know, because I'm seeming to do it a mixture of a every day, to every other day or two to every other week, so it's not really consistent :/

We have a massive documentary coming out on this issue that will be greatly publicized. In my opinion one time per day is the most anyone should do this and if they are having sex, steadily, with a partner they should not masturbate at all.
 
I masturbate 6 times a week,because I masturbate before I stretch my penis.After masturbation,I can get the best stretches and that is the reason why I masturbate that much.I have a day free of Penis Enlargement every week and this is the only day,where I do not masturbate.
 
killer1257;555696 said:
I masturbate 6 times a week,because I masturbate before I stretch my penis.After masturbation,I can get the best stretches and that is the reason why I masturbate that much.I have a day free of Penis Enlargement every week and this is the only day,where I do not masturbate.

Well good luck & what exercises do you do?
 
As I have said many times before, releasing an orgasm once per day is healthy as long as it does not become an obsessive Lust Fest! Some men feel that less is better and that is according to their disciplines, you need to find your limit is unto your own conscious and erection quality demands.
 
GeoKnight, I don't think excessive masturbation is good, but masturbating alone is much better than masturbating to adult entertainment. I agree with DLD that if you're in a relationship and having sex regularly, you should try to not masturbate at all. I think adult entertainment is where you get into really messing up your brain, like I did, and really hurting your sex drive. just you and your hand in an empty room once a day is not going to kill you. and hold on to your horniness, I would consider it a blessing rather than a curse. I'm 21 now and I wish I was as horny as I was 6 years ago...
 
Thank you Bawg1012, adult entertainment is basically the problem, as it feels as if I need it to jerk off, though getting horny on my own, I need the prone to focus on that sexual image to help me focus.
 
that really is, indeed, the problem. If I were to ask you which you would prefer, the ability to just look at hundreds of women, but never be with them more than in your own mind, or the ability to be able to perform with the women you actually get with in person, which would it be? Personally, I pick the latter. I cut adult entertainment out of my life completely months ago and it was serving me very well. Had no problems performing. Started watching more for the past 2 months or so (not even masturbating to it, just viewing adult entertainment) and boom, down went my ability to get an erection, stay erect, even my basic interest in sex has gone down. My aim is to never view it again. I have someone in my life, so why do I need to imagine being with 10 other women on a given night too? Start masturbating with just your hand and no adult entertainment. and no fantasizing about it or recalling adult entertainment you have watched in the past. eventually you'll get used to it. in the meantime, pursue a real, live, flesh-and-blood woman.
 
I cut adult entertainment out of my life, mostly for religious reasons but for a lot of the reasons ya'll discuss as well. I'm a way happier person now. The women who have been in my life appreciated it to, even if they wouldn't have asked me to do it/watch adult entertainment themselves.
 
bawg1012;556560 said:
that really is, indeed, the problem. If I were to ask you which you would prefer, the ability to just look at hundreds of women, but never be with them more than in your own mind, or the ability to be able to perform with the women you actually get with in person, which would it be? Personally, I pick the latter. I cut adult entertainment out of my life completely months ago and it was serving me very well. Had no problems performing. Started watching more for the past 2 months or so (not even masturbating to it, just viewing adult entertainment) and boom, down went my ability to get an erection, stay erect, even my basic interest in sex has gone down. My aim is to never view it again. I have someone in my life, so why do I need to imagine being with 10 other women on a given night too? Start masturbating with just your hand and no adult entertainment. and no fantasizing about it or recalling adult entertainment you have watched in the past. eventually you'll get used to it. in the meantime, pursue a real, live, flesh-and-blood woman.

Very good wisdom there, again thank you & sorry for the late reply :P
 
MedicalMind;557878 said:
I cut adult entertainment out of my life, mostly for religious reasons but for a lot of the reasons ya'll discuss as well. I'm a way happier person now. The women who have been in my life appreciated it to, even if they wouldn't have asked me to do it/watch adult entertainment themselves.

Praise God for your Awesome Choice! I am so happy the Lord is Blessing you with Happiness because of your choice. Whenever we give up something for Jesus he always replaces that with a virtue, I think you understand:)

I am so close to a better understanding of what is ok and what is not. I still am not perfect and still make mistakes but being celibate is not the easiest thing to do. I have tried to keep anything I look at clean of anything but a female showing herself in a erotic way by choice. This seems to be the dirtiest I can go without guilt. I am finding, as I trim more and more out of my life I am finding more creative ways to masturbate without guilt of breaking religious law (for me Catholicism) I do was after emission and when I do go beyond my conscious I pray for forgiveness immediately. I know God loves me and is listening to my prayers on this topic and I hope to bring better information to the public on what I believe to be ok and not ok as a Minister and Orthodox Catholic. The Bible is not very clear on some things and further understandings are important to get a better model of what is right and wrong.

I know there will never be a universal law that will apply to all but I do think the Brotherhood can come with some clarity for the people who greatly suffer with this issue. We live in a very different world than that of our Lord and I think that Christians that are sexually active, with another or themselves, need better guidelines than a single line of Gospel where we are told "If you even look at a woman with Lust in your heart you have already committed adultery". This need to be understood on a much greater level than what is available on line or even in the churches.

I have found this struggle with men from every religion and atheists alike and I have counselled many men on the subject, despite my own struggles. I have made this a mission for me and I hope to make it a bigger part of the Brotherhood so we all can gain a greater awareness of self and disciplines within this. Since I do not have sex I have a different perspective on much of this but I think those who are married or dating can also bring their thoughts to the table. This is a big job and we need to be very responsible in the way we advocate, in order to advocate better we need to explore this deeper.
 
Masturbation has side effects of lowers sperm count and will take longer to ejaculate and there is also a big change of body chemistry. It is also said that eyes become very sensitive to sunlight, BP too low or too high, heart beats irregularly due to the deficiency of the bio-energy in the visual nerves.
 
Well I have another goal to set now. Would it be ok to masturbate only one time everyday?

I have to stop watching adult entertainment.

How do you stop those mid day erections?


Some days I just start thinking about sex and I get hard. I remember a few times where I wasn't even thinking about sex and it got hard in class. That was so embarrassing.
 
there are no negative consequences due to masturbation on a biological level. If there were negative consequences to masturbation and ejaculation, the same things would happen to you when you have sex, so therefore, nothing "bad" happens biologically (irregular heart beat, high low BP, etc). However, most of the real negative consequences are psychological. Lack of sex drive being the main one, as well as desensitization to any sexual stimulus. ED due to excessive masturbation or heavy adult entertainment viewing is real. masturbating and watching adult entertainment as little as possible is a good idea if you want to be able to get a boner when you're touched by an actual woman standing in front of you in the flesh.

smokey622;570821 said:
Well I have another goal to set now. Would it be ok to masturbate only one time everyday?

I have to stop watching adult entertainment.

How do you stop those mid day erections?


Some days I just start thinking about sex and I get hard. I remember a few times where I wasn't even thinking about sex and it got hard in class. That was so embarrassing.

Smokey, masturbate-to-orgasm as little as possible if you are trying to do girth work or keep your sex drive from diminishing. Masturbating once every other day would be the safest bet while still allowing yourself to release sexual energy (the urge to have sex and ejaculate). Getting spontaneous erections is not a bad thing. Although sometimes embarrassing, it is the sign of a healthy reproductive system. Enjoy your ability to get an erection at the drop of a hat, some people find they lose that very easily as they age, even into their late 20's.
 
yes it is a good article
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Zambrodom3;574581 said:
Well, everything EXCESSIVE is bad, so I guess you're right. (But to me- the less I do the better maybe) :)

Moderation in All Things!
 
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