REDZULU2003

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Frequent masturbation and ejaculation stimulate *1 acetylcholine & *2 parasympathetic nervous functions excessively, resulting in the over production of sex hormones and neurotransmitters such as acetylcholine, dopamine and serotonin.

Abundant and unusually amount of these hormones and neurotransmitters can cause the brain and adrenal glands to perform excessive dopamine-norepinephrine-epinephrine conversion and turn the brain and body functions to be extremely sympathetic. In other words, there is a big change of body chemistry when one excessively pratices masturbation.

Note: Masturbation is a healthy sexual behavior. Like other behaviors, when over practiced or addicted it can lead to both psychological and physiological imbalances.

The side effects of such changes to the body include:

Fatigue. Feeling tired all the time
Lower back pain
Stress / Anxiety
Thinning hair / Hair Loss
Soft / Weak Erection
Premature Ejaculation
Eye floaters or fuzzy vision
Groin / Testicular Pain
Pain or cramp in the pelvic cavity or/and tail bone


If above symptoms are experienced, you need to restore the balance of brain's acetylcholine & parasympathetic ratio, reduces the level of sex hormones in the body, and sedates sympathetic nervous function, or the symptoms would become worse.

So its true what they say when your younger and wanking too much is bad for you.

*1
The chemical compound acetylcholine (often abbreviated ACh) is a neurotransmitter in both the peripheral nervous system (PNS) and central nervous system (CNS) in many organisms including humans. Acetylcholine is one of many neurotransmitters in the autonomic nervous system (ANS) and the only neurotransmitter used in the motor division of the somatic nervous system. (Sensory neurons use glutamate and various peptides at their synapses.) Acetylcholine is also the principal neurotransmitter in all autonomic ganglia.
Acetylcholine slows the heart rate when functioning as an inhibitory neurotransmitter. However, acetylcholine also behaves as an excitatory neurotransmitter at neuromuscular junctions.
*2
Parasympathetic nervous system: A part of nervous system that serves to slow the heart rate, increase the intestinal and gland activity, and relax the sphincter muscles. The parasympathetic nervous system, together with the sympathetic nervous system (that accelerates the heart rate, constricts blood vessels, and raises blood pressure), constitutes the autonomic nervous system.
 
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Here's a good article about excessive masturbation, pretty insightful:http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/201001/was-the-cowardly-lion-just-masturbating-too-much

I'm all for pounding out a nice batch, but I've fallen victim to doing it too frequently and being consumed by adult entertainment. adult entertainment can also be counter productive too because if that's your only sexual outlet your subconscious mind will assume that's what real sex is and your desire to go out and meet someone to have a sexual relationship diminishes significantly.

Be careful with the whacking it and the adult entertainment fellas.
 
resulting in the over production of sex hormones and neurotransmitters such as acetylcholine, dopamine and serotonin.
Just a thought, wouldn't this be a natural way to treat psychological diseases like depression, which occur due to the lack of serotonin?
 
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Would explain why I'm prone to masturbation or casual sex more when I'm depressed (on a low) or manic (on a high). The human wiring upstairs with all those chemicals and hormones gives off natural urges and sure when levels of Serotonin are low than perhaps our body makes us sexually active to help us raise them again through pleasure? makes sense.

Has anyone else not had similar experience when they are down they seem to masturbate more freq?

This article however is more dealing with extremes.
 
Wow, it looks like over masturbation has a lot of the same properties as heroin addiction, very interesting. Over production of acetylcholine, dopamine and serotonin all occur when someone becomes addicted to the drug making the user depressed, weak, tired, unable to feel normal emotions, etc. Very strange association but true.
 
Just shows you but I would think this is related to severe excessive masturbation. Do Psychiatrists and Doctors even realise?
 
REDZULU2003;420584 said:
Just shows you but I would think this is related to severe excessive masturbation. Do Psychiatrists and Doctors even realise?

I doubt the association between the two are studied in any intelligent way but they do correlate perfectly as far as brain chemistry....I would know:P
 
Yesterday I ate all the cookies from my father and two apples because of weed, so if you try to loose weight don't smoke or at least don't get near food or anything that tastes sweet haha :P
 
lazyhanger;420728 said:
Yesterday I ate all the cookies from my father and two apples because of weed, so if you try to loose weight don't smoke or at least don't get near food or anything that tastes sweet haha :P

I will eat everything and when there is no food i am rocking the condiments:) I have been known to eat a box of brown sugar cuz there was nothing else around to munch on:) Actually I did this the other night:)
 
doublelongdaddy;420625 said:
Nah, thats the weed:)

Nah, it aint that because I ate and was completely full from dinner and after I cummed I had to get up and eat.

lazyhanger;420728 said:
Yesterday I ate all the cookies from my father and two apples because of weed, so if you try to loose weight don't smoke or at least don't get near food or anything that tastes sweet haha :P
doublelongdaddy;420732 said:
I will eat everything and when there is no food i am rocking the condiments:) I have been known to eat a box of brown sugar cuz there was nothing else around to munch on:) Actually I did this the other night:)
you guy's are stoners; youre supposed to eat BEFORE you smoke, that way after a few hours you are not like zombies searching the kitchen for edibles to your brain that answer to you, "feel good".
 
I will eat everything and when there is no food i am rocking the condiments I have been known to eat a box of brown sugar cuz there was nothing else around to munch on Actually I did this the other night
Haha it is definitely not good to smoke if you want to loose weight, that's what I've learned.
 
Shion;420822 said:
Wouldn't need to masturbate so much if there were sexual partners to be had. That's only logical, right?
Idk My sex drive is so high I'm not sure if my partner would be able to keep up with me.
 
Turnover;420877 said:
Idk My sex drive is so high I'm not sure if my partner would be able to keep up with me.

Mine is so low that I am sure my partner could easily keep up:)
 
Well it's a matter of finding partners in the first place. There are a lot of hippies at this college but no one that doesn't either creep me out or hate me.
 
doublelongdaddy;420916 said:
Mine is so low that I am sure my partner could easily keep up:)
Turnover;420936 said:
Well I mean you are chewing up Viagra- so you are probably staying hard for hours and hours, right?
Or maybe it hits harder and leaves your blood stream quicker..

Shion;421032 said:
Well it's a matter of finding partners in the first place. There are a lot of hippies at this college but no one that doesn't either creep me out or hate me.
Idk man, I get hit on every day usually more than once a day and I can say that nothing really attracts me like having feelings for someone. Even though I have these really strong depressive emotional moments that tell me I am going to be alone and I will never find a match. I find it more important to be satisfied with who I am before I settle for another person just because it would be easier or fun. Lots of people are sleeping around but not many people are finding real relationships that they can be happy living with.
 
Girls don't even look at me, I mean really, am I that ugly?
 
doublelongdaddy;421095 said:
Girls don't even look at me, I mean really, am I that ugly?

I know what you mean it is because celibacy makes you feel that way. I get complimented all the time especially by black women because they like my hair or my zebra purse, I'm serious at first I thought it was sarcasm but I hear it too often. I never get myself looking cute anymore or anything really ever because I have no one to look cute for and when I get home I look in the mirror I feel like I look ugly even though people tell me I'm a "cutie-pie" and nobody believes me I am as old as I am they all think Im under 18 which is a really big big compliment. I've seen your facebook and girls are all over you, you are a very handsome Italian male. You can't imagine kissing another woman though because her lips are not the lips you want on yours. I know what you mean trust me I have never been a kind of person to make out with my own hand but I do because I would never want anybody elses mouth to touch mine of the person I do not want, it would be devastating, so we feel like mutant.
 
I'm in the same club. The women I loved went years ago and shes not here now. Will I love again? do I want to? sex is just sex, celibacy is strength of mind.
 
I still love all my exes with the same passion I did when I first met them. My celibacy has been a chance for me to get to love me without any external influences from women. I am way to dependent on a woman making me feel good and I have had enough of that. Today I am working on number one because without helping number one I could never help 2-3-4 or 5:)
 
doublelongdaddy;420732 said:
I will eat everything and when there is no food i am rocking the condiments:) I have been known to eat a box of brown sugar cuz there was nothing else around to munch on:) Actually I did this the other night:)

LOL I dont do that anymore but I'll hit a spoon full once in a while. I wont tell you my super horrible junk food eating stories I figure we all already have enough bad ideas of our own. :blush:
 
Do you have any scientific studies to provide in order to backup your statements, Red? I see definitions above, and that's all fine and dandy, however, I'd love to see some sources.

Also, did your reading determine when exactly these supposed chemical reactions were taking place? During orgasm itself, ejaculation, or arousal? Or all? For example, where does edging fit in?

Lastly, do these chemical reactions occur in women as well?
 
Turnover;420877 said:
Idk My sex drive is so high I'm not sure if my partner would be able to keep up with me.

When I'm having sex I stop when the girl is satisfied, if I stopped when I wanted too i would die in her vagina! I could have sex in perpetuity provided I had a source of food and water to consume during the act.
HOW HAVE YOU NOT TRIED TO FIND OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Had a girlfriend I know she could not keep up with me!!! You know how I know!? Cause I had sex with her the night before. When we woke up we had sex again, she was like okay I'm good (she just talked like that, tough girl complex). She sartted getting dressed and he but in that thong OMG JUST SET ME OFF! So I grabbed her threw her on the bed and had sex with her again. She was like ok we have to stop we need to get going! I was like ok I'm sorry you are just too sexy. she got out of the shower and I started kissing her and made her wet and then she was like GREAT I have to change my panties now! So I tore her clothes of and had sex with her again. She said we could not have sex for a few days after cause she was sore, which was not an excuse cause she still wanted to cuddle and make out and was horny she just was too sore to touch down there.


So we had sex till like 4AM woke up at ~8ish and had sex 3 times between then and ~1PMish. The only substantial break being her shower ~15min other than that it the only break was however long it takes a women to put on a thong and bra and then to have them ripped off again
 
earmuffs;430986 said:
When I'm having sex I stop when the girl is satisfied, if I stopped when I wanted too i would die in her vagina! I could have sex in perpetuity provided I had a source of food and water to consume during the act.
HOW HAVE YOU NOT TRIED TO FIND OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Had a girlfriend I know she could not keep up with me!!! You know how I know!? Cause I had sex with her the night before. When we woke up we had sex again, she was like okay I'm good (she just talked like that, tough girl complex). She sartted getting dressed and he but in that thong OMG JUST SET ME OFF! So I grabbed her threw her on the bed and had sex with her again. She was like ok we have to stop we need to get going! I was like ok I'm sorry you are just too sexy. she got out of the shower and I started kissing her and made her wet and then she was like GREAT I have to change my panties now! So I tore her clothes of and had sex with her again. She said we could not have sex for a few days after cause she was sore, which was not an excuse cause she still wanted to cuddle and make out and was horny she just was too sore to touch down there.


So we had sex till like 4AM woke up at ~8ish and had sex 3 times between then and ~1PMish. The only substantial break being her shower ~15min other than that it the only break was however long it takes a women to put on a thong and bra and then to have them ripped off again

Nice story... Can we stay on topic here please?
 
sizerp;431032 said:
Nice story... Can we stay on topic here please?

Have you read this thread!? it has not been on topic since it started... lol everyone on these forums clearly has ADD and penis obsession. Besides, DLD and Turnover were mentioning their sex drives so I told a little story.

Turnover;420877 said:
Idk My sex drive is so high I'm not sure if my partner would be able to keep up with me.

doublelongdaddy;420916 said:
Mine is so low that I am sure my partner could easily keep up:)


If you want so badly to stay on topic start your own thread or pm the OP. I tell you one thing though I don't appreciate your condescending reply. *BIG BREATH!* You could have said the same thing with a more respectful tone.

Try: Hey guys this thread has gone a little of topic and I would really enjoy discussing the OP's post a little more in depth. Let's side rail the tangents and get back on topic, okay? Thanks.

Your reply is just so short and rude it makes me wan't to pin your face to the ground via my knuckles connecting with your teeth. I realize I'm on the internet and I'm not trying to act all tough. I am just trying to effectively illustrate that you have up set me. I don't need, expect, want and would prefer no apology as that seems pointless. Just please read your own post before sending it and be more courteous in the future. I will say you seem awfully bossy for someone who's first post was after mine and has obviously not read through the thread. I say it's obvious because the thread went off topic long ago. If you want to contiune with snide remarks why don't you direct them at DLD for his brown sugar eating comment and see how long you can last without a ban acting like a jerk to a mod or admin...

NOTE: sizerp, I like your nickname
 
i used to masterbate so much everyday for months, and when my girlfriend moved in i experienced delayed ejaculation (Retarded Ejaculation).. i would go days not being able to cum during intercourse, even blowjobs wouldnt work. i maintained my erections so it might sound like a good thing, but i was frustrated as hell!!!
 
Yeah, I can Identify JunBug. TBH though I am glad to have an issue that results in staying power over a premature ejaculation any day. Right now I switched to using a [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words] so as to not condition myself to my hand any further. After almost three years with out getting laid my penis has developed some bad habits (overly used to Rosie Palm and her five sisters). For the record I could have gotten laid but I wont date a girl to just to sleep with her and I turn girls down for sex if I think they will feel used after the fact. So it ends up being I don't get laid very often... Caring about people more than my own dick sucks donkey balls (also for the record).
 
i Just wanted to chime in: I've noticed that I really don't want to jerk off or have sex within a couple hours prior to using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]-it's kind of like the penis has gone to sleep and doesn't want to be messed with. Nor does it stretch as far. Thus I really try to avoid any masturbation or sex prior to using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] as the penis appears awake and ready for action.

On that note, I would say this is a "negative consequence" of masturbation in general. But personally I never found any other problem with jerking off, even 4 or 5 times a day :)
 
however i was able to slightly remedy this issue by taking the amino acid (L Histidine) it helps re sensitize your penis, plus it helps heal tissue and promote tissue growth.. google it lol
 
Thanks, JunBug I will! Crazy Doc I agree the penis can reasonably take a lot but I think the whacking it to the point of 8 or more ejaculations most days of the month is where I went wrong.... haha so 4-5 times a day most days with a day or two off scatted here and there I never had much trouble. It's when i did not have a full on wood from a hot 18 year old girl who I have wanted to get with for a few years was sucking on my penis that I thought there might be an issue. As I have looked into it it relates to three things.

1) Excessive masturbation

2) I was anxious, what if she has an STD, What is her mom stops by while she's got my dick in her mouth, what if my female roomates hear us and then things get akward... etc

3) Not wanting to go soft due to having to use a condom. (+9 on the anxiety scale)

4) My massive Anal fetish/curiosity, when it comes right down to it I just wanted to put it deep as I could in her butt (like you have no idea how bad) so every thing else just seemed like a chore. Not like me giving her pleasure, that part I enjoy touching licking kissing all diff parts of her body. When it came down to getting blown or having sex I just wanted to get right to the putting it in her butt part.


So yeah before my next sexual encounter I'm going to not masturbate for like 2 weeks to a month (or at most once every two days and only bust like 1/10th of my nut supply) and see how that affect my wood/eq :)
 
sizerp;431032 said:
Nice story... Can we stay on topic here please?

earmuffs;431036 said:
Have you read this thread!? it has not been on topic since it started... lol everyone on these forums clearly has ADD and penis obsession. Besides, DLD and Turnover were mentioning their sex drives so I told a little story.

I think you're on to something. This was actually funny to read. I agree completely.

earmuffs;431036 said:
If you want so badly to stay on topic start your own thread or pm the OP. I tell you one thing though I don't appreciate your condescending reply. *BIG BREATH!* You could have said the same thing with a more respectful tone.

This is an erroneous assumption. In no was my, original, reply directed in a patronizing manner. I mean, I can understand it's difficult to perceive the nature of an electronic message, however your defensiveness and lack of virtue makes me question your adulthood and levelheadedness.

earmuffs;431036 said:
Try: Hey guys this thread has gone a little of topic and I would really enjoy discussing the OP's post a little more in depth. Let's side rail the tangents and get back on topic, okay? Thanks.

How contemplative of you. I mean, regardless of how "policing" you fathomed my original comment/question to be, it's the way in which I chose to express myself, and what's done is done! I will grant you, however, that your suggestion for "polite turnarounds" may be considered in the future to help quell any possible attacks on integrity such as this.

earmuffs;431036 said:
Your reply is just so short and rude it makes me wan't to pin your face to the ground via my knuckles connecting with your teeth. I realize I'm on the internet and I'm not trying to act all tough. I am just trying to effectively illustrate that you have up set me. I don't need, expect, want and would prefer no apology as that seems pointless. Just please read your own post before sending it and be more courteous in the future. I will say you seem awfully bossy for someone who's first post was after mine and has obviously not read through the thread. I say it's obvious because the thread went off topic long ago. If you want to contiune with snide remarks why don't you direct them at DLD for his brown sugar eating comment and see how long you can last without a ban acting like a jerk to a mod or admin...

This is even more comical. Your comments are dripping with contradiction and disdain, and barring your ineptitude at dealing threats, illusory still precedes you. Honestly, I put forth an effortless attempt at "upsetting you", and it's crystal clear that you've misjudged and distressed over what was an indifferent remark.

For the record, I have read the whole thread, and as you pointed out previously, it has been off topic for quite sometime. You're story was just the last "off-topic" comment that was posted. This is the only reason I decided to quote you.

The validity of my comment being "snide" is debatable at best.

Finally, if you wish to volley with threats, I'll grant you permission to travel to my abode and knock on my front door with all the force of the Creator himself, at which time we may sit down and dispute this contention man to man.

This is my message to you, and I am entreating you to grow-up.
 
I think you put the emphasis on the wrong part of the negative portion of my post. try putting it on "I realize I'm on the internet and I'm not trying to act all tough. I am just trying to effectively ILLUSTRATE that you have up set me." Anyway I'm the type of person who will type something completely ludacris just because it entertains me to do so. Some of which never gets posted, it's just not productive, this would be one of those things that could have remained unposted. That said the part about the face punch I liked the way I phrased it it was meant to be less threatening (this is the internet) and be more of a visual description. My point is that I was aware of the contradiction and just posted it out of a what the hell sort of attitude. Thanks for not turning this into a flame war...


Sizerp, agree with you completely "I can understand it's difficult to perceive the nature of an electronic message". I over reacted and was unnecessarily inflammatory. Would it be alright to agree to quash this so that we can move on to more productive or entertaining things?
BTW: In my mind that was an apology if you would like a more formal one please fill out form A2C at your local Bureau of Bureaucracy, thank you.

When it comes right down to it I would rather save my face punching for someone who is not so articulated as yourself. I met a "gentleman" in the parking lot of the DMV who made my desire to punch you seem quite insignificant. He threated to break "every bone in my body" I thought to myself you know that's kind of humorous as he thinks that is a scary threat and here I am hoping he does not attack me because I was afraid of killing him... I wished I had known the exact number of bones in the human body and could have asked him do you really plan to be so meticulous and take so much time as to beak every bone in my body? Do you have an x-ray machine are you going to x-ray me and ensure you have been true to your word or are you just full of shit? Meh, people are stupid. Sorry I came across that way, I am far from it.
 
earmuffs;431913 said:
I think you put the emphasis on the wrong part of the negative portion of my post. try putting it on "I realize I'm on the internet and I'm not trying to act all tough. I am just trying to effectively ILLUSTRATE that you have up set me." Anyway I'm the type of person who will type something completely ludacris just because it entertains me to do so. Some of which never gets posted, it's just not productive, this would be one of those things that could have remained unposted. That said the part about the face punch I liked the way I phrased it it was meant to be less threatening (this is the internet) and be more of a visual description. My point is that I was aware of the contradiction and just posted it out of a what the hell sort of attitude. Thanks for not turning this into a flame war...


Sizerp, agree with you completely "I can understand it's difficult to perceive the nature of an electronic message". I over reacted and was unnecessarily inflammatory. Would it be alright to agree to quash this so that we can move on to more productive or entertaining things?
BTW: In my mind that was an apology if you would like a more formal one please fill out form A2C at your local Bureau of Bureaucracy, thank you.

When it comes right down to it I would rather save my face punching for someone who is not so articulated as yourself. I met a "gentleman" in the parking lot of the DMV who made my desire to punch you seem quite insignificant. He threated to break "every bone in my body" I thought to myself you know that's kind of humorous as he thinks that is a scary threat and here I am hoping he does not attack me because I was afraid of killing him... I wished I had known the exact number of bones in the human body and could have asked him do you really plan to be so meticulous and take so much time as to beak every bone in my body? Do you have an x-ray machine are you going to x-ray me and ensure you have been true to your word or are you just full of shit? Meh, people are stupid. Sorry I came across that way, I am far from it.

I am sorry as well. Inasmuch, I am very glad we have come to terms, and now let us get back to growing our phalli and pride!
 
To earmuffs: 8 times a day is a lot, I've never done that, too much work. But I bet I've done 8 hours worth in one day lol. When you have a big adult entertainment collection, edging comes easy!

No question if you leave it (the sperm count) alone for 2 weeks you'll have no problem with EQ and keeping it up, etc. But you probably won't last very long. There's truth to the "cleaning the pipes" theory. Not just with women, but in general. Sometimes I gotta do it-so I can focus on a task or something. But perhaps you forgot to define "Excessive" at the beginning of a thread, as it's quite a relative term eh? 8 times a day could be "excessive" in anyone's book though-you are one dedicated S.O.B. lol.
 
Excessive masturbation will mess with EQ but how much is too much? This is difficult to say as all men have different refractory times. For instance, I can masturbate up t0 5 times in a 5 hour period with no sacrifice of EQ, the only place I suffer is with quantity of fluid. Performa5 cures this problem when I can afford it. Some men have very long refractory periods, some can only masturbate once and need hours before another erection is possible. We are all different and we all need to find what our own personal limits are.
 
Horny Goat Weed drastically reduces my refractory period. I am a hornbag from a mere 750mg taken every morning. At one point I used to dose 2x 750mg/day and I felt like I had administered 50mg of exogenous test sus. HOR-NEE AS HELL!
 
sizerp;432182 said:
Horny Goat Weed drastically reduces my refractory period. I am a hornbag from a mere 750mg taken every morning. At one point I used to dose 2x 750mg/day and I felt like I had administered 50mg of exogenous test sus. HOR-NEE AS HELL!


How old are you?
 
I thought it was a good story earmuffs and not very far off topic, the funnest part of posting is getting to share stories on the board you would never be able to anywhere else. Topic is a general place to make start a discussion, lots of threads start off on one subject and will go pages through on another; in any case it is a thread, not a declaration of law: although we can make it that:) Never-the-less, I'm glad you guys resolved the issue like gentlemen. I was on Saw Palmetto and I was hard 24/7.
 
doublelongdaddy;432276 said:
What a HORNY age:)

I suppose. I do have a naturally high level of Free Testosterone flowing through my body. But go ahead and give Horny Goat Weed a try! Take it everyday for a week, 750mg in the morning with some water. You'll love it. It's cheap too!

I take it in combination with L-Arginine and I find it helps girth exercise and the residual effects of pumping last a long time! I am consistently engorged.
 
sizerp;432333 said:
I suppose. I do have a naturally high level of Free Testosterone flowing through my body. But go ahead and give Horny Goat Weed a try! Take it everyday for a week, 750mg in the morning with some water. You'll love it. It's cheap too!

I take it in combination with L-Arginine and I find it helps girth exercise and the residual effects of pumping last a long time! I am consistently engorged.

Horny Goat Weed is one of the ingredients in the TITAN formula.
 
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