Did you make an improved [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]. If so any discounts for previous buyers?doublelongdaddy;615301 said:Or the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words]
If anyone breaks a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] through regular use we will warranty it for life.
Gayron36's Malehanger Progress Log
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longstretch;615363 said:
Yes, new and improved. No discounts though, we are still trying to recoup the investment money. I think there is a special where you get a free membership with the purchase of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words].
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longstretch;615284 said:
I didn't pay for my new upgrade. Not even shipping. So I'm definitely better off.
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smerc;616390 said:
I just emailed Ben that my hanger broke and he said the new version was almost out anyway and he would just send me the new improved version. From the FAQ on his site:
"Each Malehanger device is guaranteed to be of good quality and to function as designed. If one is broken somehow during shipment, I send a replacement. I support each of my customers like I would a good friend."
I'd say he does indeed!
gayron36;616542 said:
male hsnger reppin hard...that is good customer service
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Yeah, because of his voice. Like, I watched his review of bib's hanger, and then when I was watching male hanger presentation I was like: I know this voice...where did I heard/saw this guy before...where, where. Then, bam! Checked the bib's vid again and there was he. lol
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gayron36 is ben from malehanger.
Ben stop making fake accounts and just create a real one under "malehanger" and provide exceptional support. Gain your credibility back. You make a good product but you are very sneaky with your marketing and making fake accounts. You don't need to do this. It is a waste of time.
Email DLD and apologize for being sneaky.
Be a leader and not a snake. There are already too many in the PE industry.
You would make way more money with less time if you were authentic. And people would like/respect you.
Please read gary vaynerchuck so you can learn how marketing works.
Your new website looks very nice by the way.
Ben stop making fake accounts and just create a real one under "malehanger" and provide exceptional support. Gain your credibility back. You make a good product but you are very sneaky with your marketing and making fake accounts. You don't need to do this. It is a waste of time.
Email DLD and apologize for being sneaky.
Be a leader and not a snake. There are already too many in the PE industry.
You would make way more money with less time if you were authentic. And people would like/respect you.
Please read gary vaynerchuck so you can learn how marketing works.
Your new website looks very nice by the way.
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Not sure what he's talking about. Pretty sure this was discussed in another post and setlled. I'm just a happy customer. It's flattering you think I'm the guy who makes Malehanger I guess Ok so today:
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Without there being a similar IP range I don't see any justification in banning someone on a hunch. I thought the thickerman threads were really fucking stange though. Naming it just "hanging progress log" would seem more on-point. As there is no questionable marketing going on. I can't look past join dates though and starting logs w/ product references, but I'm not a mod.
If there is a gain report after a while that is unbelievable, then it would be a bit more suspicious.
Carry on IMO.
If there is a gain report after a while that is unbelievable, then it would be a bit more suspicious.
Carry on IMO.
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Moving back up pretty quickly.
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forwill;618370 said:
did you ever ask me if i passed on your message? No you did not. And guess what...I did. very rude. Apparently there is no proof of your claims that the moderators above me think are grounds for banning. You seem very certain it is true. unquestionable proof would be a very nice thing to provide with your claims. as smerc pointed out there may be coincidental suspicious things but DLD or Lightning haven't pressed the ban button so if it bothers you that much do what you want to do but don't be rude to me. that won't get you anywhere
hopefully you and I can be internet friend from here on out. we'll see
Hey Youknowme,
You are right, I didn't get confirmation from you. I sent 3 messages though so I thought you were avoiding me. For that I apologize.
Ben/Gayron got banned from GLL and PEGYM with the same account gayron36. Moderators from PEgym and gll were able to confirm that it was him.
I don't mind if he has a fake account, but I think he should remove the "malehanger" from his title log since it is misleading. He should just create a real account under "malerhanger" and provide exceptional support. He has a really good product and it is cheap but he is just misleading innocent vulnerable insecure people.
If he is willing to remove "malehanger" from his thread title then everything will be ok on my part. Or as long as DLD is aware of the situation and he is giving DLD a cut of the proceeds for using his platform to advertise for free.
You are right, I didn't get confirmation from you. I sent 3 messages though so I thought you were avoiding me. For that I apologize.
Ben/Gayron got banned from GLL and PEGYM with the same account gayron36. Moderators from PEgym and gll were able to confirm that it was him.
I don't mind if he has a fake account, but I think he should remove the "malehanger" from his title log since it is misleading. He should just create a real account under "malerhanger" and provide exceptional support. He has a really good product and it is cheap but he is just misleading innocent vulnerable insecure people.
If he is willing to remove "malehanger" from his thread title then everything will be ok on my part. Or as long as DLD is aware of the situation and he is giving DLD a cut of the proceeds for using his platform to advertise for free.
forwill;619018 said:
well if he is the malehanger guy everything you said makes sense. i always promote how much i like slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] over [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and i like that i get no shit here about it. it's just my preference. i only received one private message from you on 10/15 at 5:01pm. are the other messages actually showing up in your sent box?
youknowme123321;619019 said:
Fucking carrier pigeons again.
If it has been confirmed by vetted people and not bib nut dangling mods, then I would get on board w/ it.
@ the end of the day, it wouldn't hurt gayron one bit if the title was changed. I hate feeling like I'm chastising someone, but a simple IP-range check should do.
Would be different if there was a 'dedicated' proxy/vpn being used. Even ip shifts are a dead giveaway.
Let's just suppose he is not Ben, I just don't know what's in his head right now- "Wtf are they talking about" rofl!
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Sigh. The malehanger comes with a getting started sheet, a printed piece of paper that guides you to the how to forum and also asks you to join this site or pegym and start a progress log. Any other customer of his can confirm this. I did that. So I got carried away at first and did it on three different forums. My bad! I was excited and love the device. Didn't realize I'd Piss a bunch of people off. Plenty of other forum members here and on other forums who don't even appear to be reps for the products have threads with names of the products in them and nobody seems to care. I didn't come here to upset people. Just share my progress with my Malehanger.
This mock witch hunt B.S. is getting old fast. How about just get over yourself and worry about what you're doing with your own penis? Focus your PE and gain!
I mean seriously is your life so boring forwill that you have to stalk someone like me for being someone I'm not? Have you got a psychological disorder? If so, there's meds for that. There are also places like 4chan where people with nothing better to do hang out. I'm sure you would fit right in.
Leave me alone.
This mock witch hunt B.S. is getting old fast. How about just get over yourself and worry about what you're doing with your own penis? Focus your PE and gain!
I mean seriously is your life so boring forwill that you have to stalk someone like me for being someone I'm not? Have you got a psychological disorder? If so, there's meds for that. There are also places like 4chan where people with nothing better to do hang out. I'm sure you would fit right in.
Leave me alone.
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Hey guys. I'm chiming in here. I am Ben and I sell Malehanger. Ron/gayron is a customer of mine. I'm not here to defend anyone. I was actually drawn to this thread by a Google Alerts email. Any time Malehanger is mentioned online I get an email with a link to wherever it is online. I do in fact send a thank you letter with each of my devices telling a guy how to get started and I also ask them to if possible help spread the word about my devices by starting a progress log on one of the PE forums and/or doing a short review on YouTube if possible. Lots of companies do so these days. There's nothing evil or underhanded about it. I have made my own mistakes and posted under other names online in the past. I've owned up to that. Ron here has nothing to do with that and I don't pay him to rep my hanger. Plenty of other PE device retailers have reps on other forums. Let's let Ron do his progress log and keep the childish banter out of it.
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DLD must be ok with it. He himself has posted in here conversing with gayron
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Barnstool123;619170 said:
Yes exactly. So let's all focus on the bigger picture of moving the brotherhood forward in a positive direction! I mean what if Malehanger eventually becomes an endorsed product at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]? Won't some of us look silly? What if I was a happy [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] user who had started a log with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] in the title?
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gayron36;619228 said:Yes exactly. So let's all focus on the bigger picture of moving the brotherhood forward in a positive direction! I mean what if Malehanger eventually becomes an endorsed product at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]? Won't some of us look silly? What if I was a happy [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] user who had started a log with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] in the title?
well you and anyone else who does a malehanger thread like the malehanger guy asks are all in bad spots b/c he created fake accounts before. he apparently is just asking customer to do it for him. which is a much better way that he should have done in the first place but he forever tainted his product for forums b/c there will always be the question if it is a real review or just him. especially since i think you are only one who has ever done it for him and did it on more then one forum all at the same time that is suspicious. if i went to other forums and did [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] threads at all of them I am sure DLD would get tons of shit b/c they would all think it was just him and i would get banned. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] is a much different company then malehanger and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] when it comes to forum marketing and maketing power in general. Malehanger guy tried to get it for free.
My guess is malehanger wont ever be endorsed my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. just b/c of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and malehanger snake marketing history.
with that said idk who you really are but keep working hard
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I am done with keeping a log here. This isn't worth arguing over who I am. I'm just going to keep one for myself.
youknowme123321;619462 said:well you and anyone else who does a malehanger thread like the malehanger guy asks are all in bad spots b/c he created fake accounts before. he apparently is just asking customer to do it for him. which is a much better way that he should have done in the first place but he forever tainted his product for forums b/c there will always be the question if it is a real review or just him. especially since i think you are only one who has ever done it for him and did it on more then one forum all at the same time that is suspicious. if i went to other forums and did [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] threads at all of them I am sure DLD would get tons of shit b/c they would all think it was just him and i would get banned. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] is a much different company then malehanger and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] when it comes to forum marketing and maketing power in general. Malehanger guy tried to get it for free.
My guess is malehanger wont ever be endorsed my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. just b/c of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and malehanger snake marketing history.
with that said idk who you really are but keep working hard
I can search ip addresses and the ip address of Stillwantmore is: 68.59.188.85 and the ip address of gayron is: 70.193.52.59 so they are not the same person as far as ip addresses go.
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And what do you know it did become endorsed
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Over here there's some kid talking about how still is a snake, and he'll never have a part in the brotherhood. Come to find out still is now very involved, and caring with the brothers :blush:
templnite;681244 said:
Still has had some rough times as we all have but, deep in my heart, I always offer forgiveness in the same way I would want forgiveness. The Brotherhood is a very understanding group of men and we always give many chances to those who break the rules. Still has been with me since the beginning. We actually became friends before I even started PE. With a family there will always be arguments but it is getting through these arguments that build trust, love and character.
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Yes indeed DLD. Thanks for always being there.