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i have been doing Penis Enlargement for 3 years. i always used caution. The reason i started was to reverse organic causes of ED. Which in my case is diabetes. I think the "jerk" and "choke" days of Penis Enlargement are over. I never use a grip greater than the one i use to jack off with.
 
Hey tbirdy.

I was just wondering if you got your way and more safety information was made compulsory here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words]...what information would you like to see with regards specifically to exercises available here. I know your favoured method of safe Penis Enlargement would be 10 mins pumping while errect. Would you like to see people stopping other methods all together? eg stop jelqing all together? As you have stated you believe even if done correctly they can cause problems. And what of other potential injury causers such as hanging and marathon session? Is it just that you want more information that they can POTENTIALLY cause damage, or do you think really most methods are too dangerous to even try (ie when you weigh up the potential risk:potential gain factors)
Just curious man:)

I guess you have alot of faith in the 10 mins pumping routine, I would quite like to give it a try (I mean what have I got to loose except maybe the speed of gains I may see with other methods), but many people say 10 mins pumping is not enough to cause gains. Anyway I think thats a topic for another thread not this one.
 
tbirdy;292251 said:
Perfect time for DLD to make a DLD worthy move and let all of this be something positive and not a waste of time and energy and effort and wisdom and wise minds...

Peace @ Everybody !

tbirdy;292251 said:
Are you saying in the night its their mind too wich doesn't allow the penis to fill up ?

My god , why ? all this ..just to promote some [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] sales and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words] sales ?

Just so more " stupid rabbits " jump on this forum and a percentage of them will not educate and just go ahead and buy , blinded by YOUR absolutely UNIQUE gains ???

Can you sleep safely , knowing , that while your bank account goes up - other Penis EnlargementOPLES life are destroyed completely and forever ???

Is it worth it ???

This is the most insulting part of your words. If you think for one fucking second that I do this for money you should just go to another forum (or start your own with you mega posts.) You will be preaching to yourself. I have NEVER done any of this for money. And, how much money do you think I make, or is there another hair-brained, T-bird, Scientific fact to determine my financial situation? You talk about how you have been here for so long and have read so much, if so, how the fuck could you think I do this for money? You only see my work in the forum where I have close to 20,000 post where most are me giving freely of my help whether they have paid me or not. I run a BLOG that has 100's of in depth articles I have written for anyone to read, learn and practice Penis Enlargement without spending a dime. I have gone on TV, showing my face and penis, because I knew this would better Penis Enlargement (do you have the guts to do this?) I have ran the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] Forums for years and it has helped thousands of people. Without my contribution of Mental Penis Enlargement many men would have never made it. I have allowed men from the forums to come to me for free (with the exception of one who wanted to make a donation) That one guy could tell you how and where I live) I started Penis Enlargement in the ghetto and I will continue to live like this when I can make more than $15,000 a year. I am so grateful that I can support my self and fam putting food on the table and paying my bills. Don't you think I could have flipped [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], became a thief and made millions by now? Don't you? My morals are far beyond your unfounded insult about my motives for sales.

You state that you base your information on HARD SCIENTIFIC FACTS, please post these facts, your sources and how they apply to your definitive statements, that would satisfy me and I would be more than happy to say I was wrong. I will wait for this info and I hope you are able to provide it. I am not looking for some unqualified, opinionated information, I AM LOOKING FOR AXIOMS.

About my "needing VIAGRA"...this is a perfect example of how I cured my own psychological ED. I never woke with an erection, it was near impossible for me to get an erection without VIAGRA. I never thought I could do it again but I did and do. My erections are better than they ever have been with no VIAGRA. How did I do this? Through rational self analysis, cognitive work and affirmations. I cured myself.

I realize that some men (very few in my opinion) may have complete ED for physical reasons. These are cases where Viagra will not work nor any other medication for that matter. In these rare cases a man finds himself in the position to use some sort of surgical procedure to correct this (if he can afford it) How many cases are there of this? I can't imagine too many in contrast with the remainder of men on Earth. This would be another fact for you to research and post.

The men I have helped directly with ED have all gotten better and were able to get erections through mental change. Some have relied on VIAGRA or some other ED medication but just the fact they are able to get erect with a medication shows that they are more than likely able to get erect without one.

My thread is a thread about inspiration, my motives were to get into their minds and plant a seed of hope. Men do not want to hear "your penis is broken and it won't get better" they want to be hopeful and my ways of helping them make that journey is a large part of why I am who I am in the Penis Enlargement word.

I have freely giving hundreds of real exercises, based on successful human trials, that have become the backbone of many men's programs. I have written countless routines for those who have asked. I have given every conscious piece of my self in my quest for my proudest accomplishment, enlargement.

In my opinion I should be a millionaire over and over but sadly honesty is not the route to travel for monetary gain. Take a walk on my side and see who I am. You have been all about yourself over the past few weeks. Your continuos, massive posts, seem to be more for attention than help to others. I may be wrong but that is the feeling I get. Again, I hope I am wrong.
 
One last thing. I know, somewhere you made a statement about me banning you. Why would I do that? Have I ever banned someone for speaking their mind (that was not trolling)? If I have please show me.
 
Gymjohn - First of all lets stay realistic here.

Ofcourse I would like the appearance of this Forum to be changed:
Installation of BIG WARNING BANNERS leading to quality information and education on ALL possible riscs AND ALTERNATIVE Solution for The persons individual needs - wich only manifest In the need of a bigger Penis.

But as you can see : DLD stands by his point, stubborn and ignorant of everything that is being said here - I guess the saying is true : You can't teach an old dog New tricks. So the Forum will remain absolutely the same.

Besides, its not in my power to realistically make EVERYONE here stop AND change their routines to more safe Penis Enlargement.

Sinmply because People don't Value what they have (=erection strength) and risk it - UNTILL ITS GONE ! You don't know what you've got till its gone is true also. So they will stick to whatever they are doing HOPING they get out healthy and bigger.


But what we ALL coul do is EDIT OUR SIGNATURES FROM THE USER CP.

If everyone who supports my ideas would include the SAME LINK or BANNER leading to the above mentionend information IN BIG RED LETTERS , we could change the Forum from within. Newbies will read into it because it would be EVERYWHERE, in every veterans signature.

We just need to open up a new Thread , collect the risks / pro and contras / and alternative solutions , then agree upon UNIFORM banners or LINKS or SLOGANS for the signature - and vuola newbies will definetly notice !

Everyone else who has a different opinion still could keep on preaching whatever he/she likes. It all would become safer and better.

If someone gets injured I WANT TO KNOW HIM BEFORE WHAT RISK HE TOOK so crying and blaming will not be accepted later !

Agree ??
 
doublelongdaddy;292388 said:
One last thing. I know, somewhere you made a statement about me banning you. Why would I do that? Have I ever banned someone for speaking their mind (that was not trolling)? If I have please show me.

i can verify that you pretty much let people speak their minds and a matter of fact to much sometimes : )
 
tbirdy;292391 said:
Sinmply because People don't Value what they have (=erection strength) and risk it - UNTILL ITS GONE !

This is completely opinionated and, IMO, it only puts negativity into the mind of men who may already be worrying about something that may be purely mental. I truly feel it is irresponsible.

What men does not value his erection?
 
He DLD, I wrote my very last post pretty much simultaniously with your last one , without having read your last post.


What you say now sounds FAR from ignorant , and yes now we speak on the same level:

You do CALL me out to back up what I said with scientific facts and as I already said in the PM

Quote :
Give me a couple of days and I will rip apart every sentence in your post with modern studies, links to the best universitys and specialists for ED and Urology.

I mean YES now we talking , now you are listining , want me to to rip it apart - I will ! :-D

Everyone will profit of this discussion AND thus it will be positive AND constructive.


As for your motives and the insult: Its not the problem HOW MUCH MONEY you make but the FACT alone that You MAKE money AND have big ass banners on top of this Forum advertizing YOUR beliefs - is what discredits you somewhat in itself.

Besides that . Will You Accept an Excuse for what I said to you that you felt most insulting ? I know all the things you explained about your person and I respect you for that. I mean I do have to make a difference : You could rip off everyone MUCH more than you do , but a rip off is still a rip off (even on a smaller scale) if there is any profit involved on your side. Its like me picking up a gun shooting 1 guy and saying : You mofuckers THANK ME FOR NOT SHOOTING 100 MORE , cos there sure as hell were more bullets in this BAby :-D

Thats all I can say.

You hair brained TBirdy ;)
 
@ DLD :


"""What men does not value his erection?"""


The one who takes it for granted NOT witnessing any negative results in the shortterm ! Same as with smoking , alcohole, drug abuse , pretty much every overactivity in any area of your life BUT education - because thats pure POWER. And you can't ever be to wise or have too much money ....

The more you understand the more and more you realize how small and little our knowldege on any matter is...
 
tbirdy;292397 said:
As for your motives and the insult: Its not the problem HOW MUCH MONEY you make but the FACT alone that You MAKE money AND have big ass banners on top of this Forum advertizing YOUR beliefs - is what discredits you somewhat in itself.

Listen, I could get a full time job outside of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and rarely be here. If I am working another job forget about new exercises from me, forget about the 100's of emails I answer, forget about the articles I research and write. Reevaluate your statement, again it is extremely insulting. My banner is there to keep me here, ya heard?
 
Oh, not to mention the hundreds of PM's I answer. My PM box it always close to full, that is 500 messages!
 
"""Reevaluate your statement, again it is extremely insulting. My banner is there to keep me here, ya heard?""""


Thats true.

Man I'm confused now - its like we both have a valid point in what we say.


If what You say is true , I understand now how I insulted you - if not you gotta understand why I insulted you.

What we do now ?

Kick each other in the nuts "cartman" style till one drops unconcious ?
 
tbirdy;292404 said:
Kick each other in the nuts "cartman" style till one drops unconcious ?

That sounds like a plan but I wear steel toes, for real though. I go first. I will really give you ED. :)
 
psychotic;292283 said:
Just remember DLD has a fucking machine gun at his crib, he's obviously expecting some shit one day with an army of limp dicked men.

I live in a place where life requires protection. I would not greet someone at my door with Heckler & Koch SP89 MP5, nah, I'll answer the door with the 9 milli. :) The hood I am in is the playground of drugs and cops, guns and knives, crack heads and junkies. I keep a gun tucked in every corner.
 
doublelongdaddy;292406 said:
I live in a place where life requires protection. I would not greet someone at my door with Heckler & Koch SP89 MP5, nah, I'll answer the door with the 9 milli. :) The hood I am in is the playground of drugs and cops, guns and knives, crack heads and junkies. I keep a gun tucked in every corner.

I know dude, it was a joke. Shit, I wouldn't feel safe there even with all that ammo!
 
hahaha, I hope you two are making up:)

Tbirdy u better wear a cup or DLD's steel toe caps will be putting you in the boo boos and band aids forum for a LONG time;-)
 
Perhaps this calls for someone posting video of light jelqing and stretching techniques, while making them stickies at the same time (in the newbie section). Hell, I bet you could make someone watch the videos who was signing up for an account here (make them watch the videos and hit Agree before registration, wouldn't be too hard of a vBulletin hack). If you show someone what truly is moderation, by video, they will probably much less apt to hurting themselves in the future.
 
10inchadvantage;292442 said:
Perhaps this calls for someone posting video of light jelqing and stretching techniques, while making them stickies at the same time (in the newbie section). Hell, I bet you could make someone watch the videos who was signing up for an account here (make them watch the videos and hit Agree before registration, wouldn't be too hard of a vBulletin hack). If you show someone what truly is moderation, by video, they will probably much less apt to hurting themselves in the future.

good idea 10inchadvantage.
 
Very interesting reading but I've got to comment.

1. I don't think people felt like they were protecting DLD, at least I wasn't.
T-Birdy's claims would be very disturbing that Penis Enlargement-ing will cause damage and ED no matter what if it is performed the way it's being done ect ect.

2. T bird got hurt jelqing. Are you serious? Jelqing? Don't we think that would be a freak accident not at all normative? I would and do. Like I said I'm sorry he got hurt but with all the advanced exercises going on Jelqing is less stressful than masturbation.
Why try and scare people with that?

He got hurt and therefore everyone else will too. This isn't about whether if people ever got hurt doing Penis Enlargement, people have and it's unfortunate, but that is not the assertion or implication being made by him, sorry.

Any doubts to this comes from his own post where he says to all of his doubters that we all will be experiencing ED in a few years, just we wait. After all according to him DLD is dependant on Cialis for a hard on.

He comes off as trying to sound reasonable but when objectors, object he becomes argumentative and plays the victim.

The term "buyer beware" was common when I was growing up and it simply means that as a purchaser you've got to protect yourself and use your head.
 
@anth1225 - My man, eventhough you are definetly entitled to your own opinion - I fear you fell in love, with the first obvious critism that came to your mind , too quickly. Dig deeper into what was said:


2. T bird got hurt jelqing. Are you serious? Jelqing? Don't we think that would be a freak accident not at all normative? I would and do. Like I said I'm sorry he got hurt but with all the advanced exercises going on Jelqing is less stressful than masturbation.
Why try and scare people with that?

He got hurt and therefore everyone else will too. This isn't about whether if people ever got hurt doing Penis Enlargement, people have and it's unfortunate, but that is not the assertion or implication being made by him, sorry.

This whole Post/thread/scenario Is NOT about Tbirdy complaining about his Jelq accident. I even states in several posts it could have very well been a mild case of Peyronies. This whole thing is about Tbirdy, knowing about the potentual risks and witnessing them in the booboos section , trying to warn and educate the veterans and especially the newbies, about possible future consequences of Penis Enlargement. There are no long term studys. Everything is short term and "while in routine". To prove me wrong, you would need 1000 men from here stopping Penis Enlargement completely and then report back after several years on their erection strength. My "freak accident" as you call it was repeated many times now, as you can read in the injury section by several guys. (Definetly without peyronies as a possible reason like in my case!)

To say Jelquing is less stressfull than masturbation is " completely wrong" in my opinion: Why? Let me explain.

The technique is grab with OK sign at the base being semi-erect and push the blood up to the head, using sensible grip strength and repeating many times over, pre-warm up and post-warm down/cool down included.

This motion is completely unnatural. Its directly the opposite of natural. Most natural stress/motion for the Penis is sex. The Penis enters the vagina and is being jelqued from top to bottom ! NEVER from bottom to top. The pussy even squeezes the dick upon a thrust in movement, thus jelquing it from top to bottom and relaxes upon the thrust out movement.

The pressure applied differs greatly, too.

Most important: By jelquing you force the blood not only through the arteries - wich is good in itself , but also through the VEINS (they are needed for outflow) and again exactly against "the stream" , against the vein-valves and against the flow.

This is impossible to simulate in sex - where when being completely erect the veins are shut of and very reduced in size.

All of these facts make even one single jelq stroke a completely unique , unnatural stress that you perform on your healthy penis.

On :
He got hurt and therefore everyone else will too. This isn't about whether if people ever got hurt doing Penis Enlargement, people have and it's unfortunate, but that is not the assertion or implication being made by him, sorry.

UHydromax. Yes it is ! It not about I got hurt everyone else will. Its about I know what CAN get you hurt AND WHY and I don't want everyone else to take unnessary risk.

The "intense Penis Enlargement followers" group have theory and practical evidence (as in well I'm doing Penis Enlargement and its still working good) as proof for their rightousness.
What they DON'T have is : Well I'm doing Penis Enlargement, its working good AND IT WILL WORK GOOD 10 years from now AND it will work good when I stop Penis Enlargement completely.

What I have is theory and advise on how to put you on the safe side, and practical evidence from my own experience and evidence from the injury section and world wide scientific research - because as one wise member already noticed : We all guinnepigs ! You can't argue against me on this one because , its theory against theory with NO proof that you will keep your gains and your health on one side but alot of evidence THAT YOU CAN LOOSE alot on the other side.


@Why try and scare people with that? = This is why I try and WARN people about Is there really a need to take such a risk ?


@He comes off as trying to sound reasonable but when objectors, object he becomes argumentative and plays the victim.

--------------> Where, when and who ? You can play secretary I'm the boss 2night ! I say :-D


@where he says to all of his doubters that we all will be experiencing ED in a few years, just we wait.

-----------> Are you saying We all WILL NOT HAVE ? Please back that up by anything senseful. Oh wait - You can't, there are NO LONG TERM OBSERVATIONS worth shit !



@The term "buyer beware" was common when I was growing up and it simply means that as a purchaser you've got to protect yourself and use your head.

-----> Good for you , that you grew up like that and became so smart. Do you expect everyone to be the same ? Oh , and if not - don't the people DESERVE to be warned and educated ? Or do you say, if you didn't watch out and were to dumb - it was YOU FAULT so enjoy your ED - you deserve it ?

What if (theoratically) your brother, who happens to be a singer, an artist , a scientist, a sportsman AND an insecureman who is trying to increase his penis for his wife - no matter what , will fall prey to this ? Still OK with you - as in he was to dumb ? How he was to dumb if he is good in other areas but NOT in the art of Penis Enlargement and the knowledge and risks behind it ?

What about young guys , who can't wait who are out for a quick fix ? They deserve ED being 19 ???

Or rather lots of sex and happiness and a cool mindset to enjoy the beauty of life ?
 
tbirdy;292544 said:
@anth1225 - My man, eventhough you are definetly entitled to your own opinion - I fear you fell in love, with the first obvious critism that came to your mind , too quickly. Dig deeper into what was said:




This whole Post/thread/scenario Is NOT about Tbirdy complaining about his Jelq accident. I even states in several posts it could have very well been a mild case of Peyronies. This whole thing is about Tbirdy, knowing about the potentual risks and witnessing them in the booboos section , trying to warn and educate the veterans and especially the newbies, about possible future consequences of Penis Enlargement. There are no long term studys. Everything is short term and "while in routine". To prove me wrong, you would need 1000 men from here stopping Penis Enlargement completely and then report back after several years on their erection strength. My "freak accident" as you call it was repeated many times now, as you can read in the injury section by several guys. (Definetly without peyronies as a possible reason like in my case!)

To say Jelquing is less stressfull than masturbation is " completely wrong" in my opinion: Why? Let me explain.

The technique is grab with OK sign at the base being semi-erect and push the blood up to the head, using sensible grip strength and repeating many times over, pre-warm up and post-warm down/cool down included.

This motion is completely unnatural. Its directly the opposite of natural. Most natural stress/motion for the Penis is sex. The Penis enters the vagina and is being jelqued from top to bottom ! NEVER from bottom to top. The pussy even squeezes the dick upon a thrust in movement, thus jelquing it from top to bottom and relaxes upon the thrust out movement.

The pressure applied differs greatly, too.

Most important: By jelquing you force the blood not only through the arteries - wich is good in itself , but also through the VEINS (they are needed for outflow) and again exactly against "the stream" , against the vein-valves and against the flow.

This is impossible to simulate in sex - where when being completely erect the veins are shut of and very reduced in size.

All of these facts make even one single jelq stroke a completely unique , unnatural stress that you perform on your healthy penis.

On :

UHydromax. Yes it is ! It not about I got hurt everyone else will. Its about I know what CAN get you hurt AND WHY and I don't want everyone else to take unnessary risk.

The "intense Penis Enlargement followers" group have theory and practical evidence (as in well I'm doing Penis Enlargement and its still working good) as proof for their rightousness.
What they DON'T have is : Well I'm doing Penis Enlargement, its working good AND IT WILL WORK GOOD 10 years from now AND it will work good when I stop Penis Enlargement completely.

What I have is theory and advise on how to put you on the safe side, and practical evidence from my own experience and evidence from the injury section and world wide scientific research - because as one wise member already noticed : We all guinnepigs ! You can't argue against me on this one because , its theory against theory with NO proof that you will keep your gains and your health on one side but alot of evidence THAT YOU CAN LOOSE alot on the other side.


@Why try and scare people with that? = This is why I try and WARN people about Is there really a need to take such a risk ?


@He comes off as trying to sound reasonable but when objectors, object he becomes argumentative and plays the victim.

--------------> Where, when and who ? You can play secretary I'm the boss 2night ! I say :-D


@where he says to all of his doubters that we all will be experiencing ED in a few years, just we wait.

-----------> Are you saying We all WILL NOT HAVE ? Please back that up by anything senseful. Oh wait - You can't, there are NO LONG TERM OBSERVATIONS worth shit !



@The term "buyer beware" was common when I was growing up and it simply means that as a purchaser you've got to protect yourself and use your head.

-----> Good for you , that you grew up like that and became so smart. Do you expect everyone to be the same ? Oh , and if not - don't the people DESERVE to be warned and educated ? Or do you say, if you didn't watch out and were to dumb - it was YOU FAULT so enjoy your ED - you deserve it ?

What if (theoratically) your brother, who happens to be a singer, an artist , a scientist, a sportsman AND an insecureman who is trying to increase his penis for his wife - no matter what , will fall prey to this ? Still OK with you - as in he was to dumb ? How he was to dumb if he is good in other areas but NOT in the art of Penis Enlargement and the knowledge and risks behind it ?

What about young guys , who can't wait who are out for a quick fix ? They deserve ED being 19 ???

Or rather lots of sex and happiness and a cool mindset to enjoy the beauty of life ?

Ok boss:
Buyer beware doesn't mean I am making myself out to be smarter than everyone else, that appears to be your department, it simply means if you're going to grab your wanker you'd best use some common sense that's all.

No it doesn't mean the hell with everyone else, and it really warms my heart that you are so altruistic as to look out for everyone else, in the midst of personal attacks on someones character,
Wait while I wipe the tears from my eyes. It's just sooo beautiful *sniff*

I've been Penis Enlargement-ing for 3 yrs and in my time I've never heard anyone say throw caution to the wind, but I've seen newbies warned time and time again to take things slow.

Proof that you have been obnoxious with those who don't agree with you and challenge your statements:
Just look at your reply to me that's proof enough.
I stated that you are saying that we will all have ed eventually, which you did say, gets turned on it's ear as you stating to me:

"Are you saying We all WILL NOT HAVE ? Please back that up by anything senseful. Oh wait - You can't, there are NO LONG TERM OBSERVATIONS worth shit !"

UHydromax no I did not say we would or wouldn't. I said you stated as a matter of fact we would. Could it be you overstated your case?
Or are you just trying to win an argument?

Your description of masturbating, turned into a description of the physiology of the penis during sex which I don't know how we arrived there.

I said masturbation which would be opposite of the sex act also. Maybe you're different but I've had lots more aggressive masturbation sessions than I've ever had jelqing and those two analogies are compatible.
You wouldn't be practicing selective citing just to be right would you?
I thought you were so concerned for truth.

I expected just such a reply from you as I received. I'm not surprised or offended.

I never disputed injuries, but your declarations of just wait you're all next, well if I haven't been Penis Enlargement-ing before, forget it I never would.

Also it's quite ironic that you would advocate using a pump, which is 100 times more dangerous than jelqing, even if for only 10 minutes.
I mean that's a head scratcher for sure, but I guess someone with my limited capabilities can't compare to the genious that is you, so there is no way for me to ever comprehend that as you seem to.

anth
 
anth1225;292563 said:
Also it's quite ironic that you would advocate using a pump, which is 100 times more dangerous than jelqing, even if for only 10 minutes.

anth

Why so? I was thinking about giving pumping a try?! If you keep pressure sensible (5gh) and dont even spend too long in the cylinder...why would this be more dangerous than jelqing? Let alone 100 times more?

Cheers
 
tbirdy is looking for love in all the wrong places this dude is wac. im tired of dis dude and what he thinks is right .......he must have a p.h.d playa. hatin. dickhead
 
^ :)


tbirdy posted his original post publicly, then decided, 5 minutes later, to delete it and send it in a Private Message to DLD - to my mind the issue here is that a Private Mesage from one member to another was made public without nil conversation between the two... that is very poor form.

tbirdy, forget what anyone is saying in this thread and let it die. you do not have to defend yourself here, you have done nothing wrong except take ardent objection to something another member has said or done and that is your right as a forum member.

peace.


keep pushing
 
Threak-X;292583 said:
Speak only with good purpose. If it doesn’t serve, don’t say it.

We can't find it, because we can't see it. This has nothing to do with any part of this thread but I know that Threak will understand it's meaning to the response he has made to this thread.

A little knowledge is more dangerous than none at all.
 
So if I Penis Enlargement my dick will eventually die? Is that what you are saying?

Damn man I have done things to my dick that would make you call for Jesus. For 5 plus years now. No ED here except in my name, Ed. Too me your pushing on the borderline of frighting the people here on this forum, with your paranoid, your dick is going to die shit. Man, I just dont get your obsession with this content. Either your for Penis Enlargement or your not. Warnings come all the time here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], Thunders, whatever forum you visit. It is your choice to do things to yourself, and you got to man up if something happened to you that was bad. So I went and bought a Muscle and Fitness mag, and I tried one of there routines in there, then I injured myself, simply because I was not conditioned enough? Now I'm going to sue Muscle and fitness because the routine they gave me caused my injurie? Come on man, we have to take accountability for our own actions, we know the warnings and the dangers.

Tbirdy, your a professional athlete? Right, so you said. So you know that some people are more prone to injuries than others Right? One guy might fall real lightly, fuck up his ACL,and done forever, but then the next guy takes hit after hit, tweeks his knee, gets knocked out, but never has a carrer threating injurie, correct?

All I'm saying is your taking this to the extreme, here. Its cool to warn people about risks in Penis Enlargement, but damn man, dont make them think if they Penis Enlargement, that there dick would end up being a scene from SAW3.

As you say moderation is key! Well discussing the dangers in Penis Enlargement should be done in moderation as well.

Peace
 
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crazyed27;292673 said:
All I'm saying is your taking this to the extreme, here. Its cool to warn people about risks in Penis Enlargement, but damn man, dont make them think if they Penis Enlargement, that there dick would end up being a scene from SAW3.

:) L.O.L.

Very true.
 
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